need advices on how to play it 'right' with a model.

Tiocrash · 2016-07-22T10:34:39+00:00

Quick tip for when you're dating up (and you are because she definately doesn't give as much of a shit as you):

Be 0% needy and be 100% normal.

Obviously, the more needy you are the less normal you'll be around her.

Guys can't handle dating 10's for a lot of reasons, but the number 1 most common speed bump is that they just have to do / say that fucking insane thing that starts a downward spiral of losing attraction. It's like their mind doesn't want them to be successful with the girl because their afraid of success or something ridiculous, see it all the time though.

Gawernator · 2016-07-22T09:00:06+00:00

Just treat her like a normal girl and have a DGAF attitude. You are psyching yourself out like this

trpthroway123 · 2016-07-22T13:03:56+00:00

I've just always twisted it into an ego boost.

You're going to get attention. You're going to get stares, compliments, covert and overt attempts at getting her attention, all sorts of silly shit.

Great. They're jealous, envious, you're capable of what they're not. Every stare might as well be a thumbs up and "You fucking rock, dude! You're living my dream!" Every girl that wonders what makes you so special will still wonder that after you break up, again, take it as an ego boost, your SMV just got raised.

With that mindset, it's easy to take it all in stride. After that, it's just a matter of treating her like any other woman and not fawning over her. Everyone else does that already, you're different, you're special, you're the one she wants, so act like it. Control her a bit, don't let her get away with shit, revoke her pussy pass. She needs the boundaries or she won't respect you.

The gifts, the messages, the offers, are something you don't have to deal with when dating lower SMV girls. I know it's fucked up, but I encourage them to manipulate those guys. "That guy really wants to buy you a drink. Mine's empty, tell him you're drinking Jack on the rocks." Had one that really wanted to buy her expensive shoes. Told her to go for it, I'm not dropping $800 on fucking footwear, just don't cheat. Guy just wanted pictures of her feet with and without the shoes. She was cool with it, IDGAF, and they did look pretty good bouncing off my shoulders after dinner that night.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-07-22T14:20:41+00:00

Previous response, heldover

Pull up your chairs, fellas, and let Uncle Vasya tell you a tale.....

In my time I've dated a few models and a (minor) TV personality (while officially to "short" to be a model she was a total smokeshow and was the "lifestyle" correspondent on a news magazine type thing).

The Positives:

-You are banging a total smoke show.

-You will discover you no longer need reservations...anywhere.

-~~They usually have a line on on where to get great coke, anytime, anywhere.~~ Probably shouldn't mention that one.

-A lot of them are totally cool, and dig it when a guy isn't phased at all by them being models.

-Once you get one of them, you can usually get more later.

The Negatives:

-Narcisism, Entitlement, blah, blah, blah. They get validated from the time they get up to the time the go to sleep. Then they get validated in their dreams.

-They whine a lot about being "objectified"--until you don't objectify them anymore.

-Lots of creeper guys hanging around, offering them cash, trips, drugs, whatever...and, oh, yeah, dick.

-You will get a lot of "Hmm. How did HE get HER?" looks. Bask in it. I've had guys ask me what was up, when my date went to the Ladies', and I generally say "I'm a millionaire and I have a dick down to my knees." OTOH, I have returned from getting fresh drinks to have one of my girls hand me a stack of business cards that she was given in the 10 minutes I was gone. /shrugs

How to Make it Work:

-Expect nothing long term. Assume things will have a beginning a middle and and end, and that your job is to enjoy the FUCK out of the middle.

-You need Solid Steel Frame and Industrial Strength "Don't Give a Fuck". Like "The Outlaw Josey Wales" level DGAF.

-And "Sean Connery as James Bond" level Amused Mastery. Treat her like she needs adult supervision--TELL HER that she needs adult supervision.

-Possession of the Ass is 9/10th of the Law. One of my girls had the absolute Rear of the YEAR and would complain about nobody being interested in her IQ. So I started to refer to her ass as her IQ.

-You ARE the Boss of Her. You take NONE of her shit. It's like catnip for them. You impose your will. One told me she was going to get a tattoo--because really, go ruin yourself to show how edgy you are. So I told the ONLY tat she was allowed to have was a tramp stamp that read "PROPERTY OF: VASILIY ZAITZEV". She giggled. And she got wet.

-Call Her on Her Bullshit. One of them shit tested me (sort of) by showing up to our first date (which was a blind date), wearing no makeup whatsoever. I saw through this in 0.00000002 seconds. She looked great anyway, but I knew what was up. She pulled that again, once, when the relationships was established and I told her she looked like shit and to go put some makeup on, which she did. I have never seen her 'dressed down' since.

-You need to 'Force Multiply' your game. Girls who are 'next level' hot get offered dick All Day, Every Day. You need to double down on gaming other girls¹ and you need to mix in some condescension, liberally. Enough so she knows what the boundaries are. You LEAD, she FOLLOWS.

-Understand Your Quarry. At the end of the day, she's a human being, and a girl. They don't think (at least always) like we think. If we were them, we'd be coked up and lezzing out with other hot models, all the time. Now, some of them do actually do that. But most of them want want every girl wants, they just have tyranny of choice. You are completely replaceable, unless you can get her to say this: "No guy has ever [talked to me/treated me/done this to me] before!"²

-You Need to Challenge Her. Keep her back on her heels. She has to think that she has to EARN your time, such as you spend with her. Like you have 6 other, better options.

It will all likely come crashing down at the end. One of my favorites was an Eastern European number that my friends nicknamed "The Hotness". And then they started calling her that in front of her. It got to the point where they always expected that I would bring her and were disappointed if I didn't. Once, early on, when we were out walking some guy at a cafe stood up, took off his sunglasses and tracked her like he was working for NORAD. I stared him down and when he looked at me, I said, "Eyes on your own paper, son." I made some joke about it to her and she said--without a trace of irony--"Oh, that happens all the time." Fu-u-uck. So that's what you're up against.

She wound up going to Europe for the summer season. As I knew that being the clingy guy who couldn't let go was a non-starter, I cut her loose (there wasn't really another option at that point), met a semi-famous actor....who turned her into a coke whore. It was painful to watch, long distance. So you hit the "eject" button and start over.

So enjoy it, but there's so much shit that can go wrong, just Live In The Now with it.

Good luck.

V/Z

¹ As appropriate. This won't be as necessary with introverted girls. There was one who I am sure would have burst into tears (or had a seizure) if I had gamed other girls in front of her. She hated other guys hitting on her and watched over me like a hawk so that other women were scared to talk to me.

² Most recently I was chatting with a girl I flirt with and she was going on about how she wants to get away from her work, blah, blah, sycophants, blah, blah, and other bullshit. I have created a narrative with her and we have discussed her hanging out up at my place....where I told her I would put her to work in my garden. She was a bit nonplussed by that suggestion and asked what else she might do and I told her she would sunbathe nude by my pool and get fucked a lot. Now, that may never happen with that girl, but she didn't exactly run away, either.

KemalTenebris · 2016-07-22T09:33:50+00:00

I am not telling you to give up or anything like that, but, you might be in a place in your life where you are not ready for a girl like this.

Good thing is the only way to get ready for that kind of a girl is to be with one.

View her as if she is your crown, and wear it proudly.

JamesSkepp · 2016-07-22T09:31:19+00:00

I just can't handle the attention she receives. It's just too stressful.

You WILL have to learn to 100% ignore it (basic AMOG applies, who reacts less wins), ignore the interruptions, the blatant pickup attempts, the covert pickup attempts ("hey man I like your style" sure you do), the catcalling, the free stuff, the "is he bothering you", the "hey man is this your gf, shes hot", the stupid looks/stares they give you, the proximity status displays (expensive alcohol orders, the "accidental" mentions of the expensive car, trip).

Treat it as an exercise of frame and focus, "can I learn to naturally ignore/pay little attention to xyz in my proximity".

AlphaManliness · 2016-07-22T15:40:51+00:00

See her for her soul, her body is just a piece of card board.

Whats the visual appeal and taste of a piece of card board ?

or even better

Whats the visual and sensory appeal of a pile of poo ?

Now, during sexy time, turn off the card board/poo meditation and enjoy her beauty.

Title	need advices on how to play it 'right' with a model.
Author	thescalpmaster1
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Date	July 22, 2016 7:46 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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