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[–]frerri 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You shouldn't, but you could lower your standards.
My only plate right now had stayed through 3 different cycles of plates. She never texts me. She never sends me anything she's radio silent until I ask her to come over, then it's a quick yes. And she keeps all her attention on me. Looks me directly in the eye in silence and is receptive towards everything.
All other girls have been nexed because of what you're saying here. I've been working to hard to find new ones right now but I know they always come and go.
She's a seasoning on my life. She makes me the main character and does my bidding.
If she wasn't mixed Asian and Syrian I'd consider her LTR material. (i want Swedish genes.)
Thing is, She always been the geek. Always been the silent outcast girl is school. Now that school is over and she wears hotter clothes she's really sexy.
Ofc some of the girls who have come and gone has had better bodies, more handsome faces etc. But this girl is average and behavior wise makes up for it.
[–]1oldredder 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Have you other experienced guys noticed that after a while spinning plates just gets old?
REAL old. Sex is fun, women-banter is not so much and women-bitching pretty much removes all the fun of the entire experience.
There is no solution. Women never get better. In fact while you can always find a newer, younger (than you: they stay the same age!) group they are getting dumber and more entitled in some cases, or dumber and more boring in other cases.
Truth is: you can live without 'em and be really happy.
It's up to you just how much bullshit you want to put up with and also if hookers are legal where you live.
Hookers are legal where I live.
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[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
not so.
You trade off dollar cost for opportunity risk. They know too much about you and the chance of being robbed is much higher. Or worse.
Paying the hourly rate is insurance against all the other shit going down.
[–]Sepean 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
I'm happily married on our 12th year, with 2 kids. Wife is kinky, fit (we're talking visible abs and able to do 8 chin ups), sweet and loving. It wasn't like this before TRP, but now I can tell you that life for an alpha is good even as married.
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[–]Sepean 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
My point wasn't that you should do that - just that even with all the leverage from children etc., you can have a fun relationship.
Relationships are a shitty deal for betas, but it is a different story for alphas.
[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
no, it isn't. It's the same for all men, no matter how alpha. No single man is more alpha than the big daddy government that gives divorce-cash and prizes and the kids to the woman.
The only difference is alpha is more likely to replace the bitch with another fast, or lose his temper and kill the bitch that steals his kids whereas beta can't ever do that.
[–]Sepean -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
The government only offers beta.
If you are alpha, keep your SMV high and hold frame, your wife remains attracted to you and she has little incentive to leave; financially, emotionally, romantically and logistically she will be worse off after a divorce.
[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wrong.
The government offers police brutality, jail without any chance to defend yourself, and money for women.
If you are alpha with super-high SMV, your wife just tells the cops you beat her up and raped her then she takes your money, you children and fucks 2 more alphas later that day.
She has every incentive to leave all day every day forever.
Not a single woman in America is at risk for being financially, emotionally or logistically worse off. It's the LAW. She can take ALL your money and you can be JAILED for not paying. A JUDGE decides this.
The judge is immune to TRP alpha frame. IMMUNE. That gavel has the power of a billion alphas because that gavel moves your money and puts you in jail at the point of police-guns if you retaliate. And if you retaliate you WILL BE SHOT. The chances of surviving this are almost zero.
[–]Sepean 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Fellow libertarian ancap here, I know how the government works :)
But the government only offers the woman beta. It will only ensure that she gets some money.
Let us look at her incentives:
Financial: She is better off financially with me than on her own. She'll have to go down in hours and receive lesser pay, and she will have to pay for more stuff on her own without me chipping in. That means less stuff, smaller home in a worse neighborhood, etc.
Romantical: Sure, she can find other men. But can she get commitment from them? Most likely she'll have to choose between alphas who won't commit or betas who she isn't attracted to. It's a sucky deal for post-wall single moms.
Emotional: She loves me, so leaving me would suck. I love her children like my own, because, well, they're mine :) If/when she finds another man, there'll always be that issue that he isn't really into her children. And divorce really does a number on the children, it is really hard on them both emotionally and in terms of their long term prospects.
Logistical: Being a single moms sucks. Having to balance a job with being a mother, taking the kids to and from school/kindergarten, sports and play dates with only one set of hands sucks big time. Being two to share the load is just much, much easier.
If I was a fat, boring slob, a lazy low life or a supplicant beta, those incentives change, but if you're an attractive, high SMV man who has his shit together your wife won't find a better life away from you.
[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
no. Government offers the alpha: the soldiers, the police, the brutal killers who do so on her say so.
That's her real alpha.
Emotional: She loves me, so leaving me would suck
SO you think.
Turns out a lot of other men thought that.
they were fooled.
But can she get commitment from them?
She could probably get 200 guys pledging marriage/commitment in a day if she dropped her standards low enough.
[–]Sepean 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She could probably get 200 guys pledging marriage/commitment in a day if she dropped her standards low
Lol so fucking what? Do you think she wants a low quality man?
You've been burned so bad you can't see straight.
[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lots of women pick up and keep low quality men, so apparently they often do.
I can see more straight than almost every person on this earth - certainly more than you.
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[–]Sepean 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
So you had over 20 good years, that's not exactly a failure.
Compare that to what you have now, which you don't seem to enjoy much. Is an LTR that could (will?) end in 10, 20 or 30 years something you'd prefer?
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[–]Sepean 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
How did it take a toll on you?
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[–]Sepean 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
The only way that you will not learn this for yourself is by entering dead bedroom syndrome, or if you leave first
That makes no sense. Going dead bedroom means dropping your alpha, and that won't make a break up any less likely or more amicable, and leaving first won't either.
It also sounds like a lot of your issues were before the break up. Maybe you were not as alpha and adept at holding frame and handling shit tests as you thought?
it is why TRP exists
TRP exists mainly because of the mainstream praise for being beta and the near complete ignorance of female dual sexual strategy, AF/BB and shit testing.
The high rate of divorce, the risk of divorce rape, and how ugly divorces can get is common knowledge.
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[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ya, later tell me how divorce is as an alpha and we'll see
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[–]bornredd -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Marriage always ends in dead bedroom or divorce.
Maybe yours always do. TRP is about being able to learn from others, too.
[–]Sepean 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who says I'm getting divorced? The divorce rate is around 50%. Adjust for socio-economic status, children, duration, etc., and we're way above a 50/50 chance. And then there's the stuff that there are no statistics on, like for example that we're both fit, interesting people with a very healthy sex life, we rarely fight, etc.
The idea that divorce is inevitable is just plain false.
And who says that something good has to last forever to be worthwhile? If we have some more years together that are great and raise our children well, that's easily worth it for me. The alternative (spinning plates and either not having kids or seeing your kids raised by a single mom) is absolutely not how I would have liked to spend my 30s.
I also completely fail to see how anyone can think that divorce rape is more expensive than the marriage with kids. That shit costs a lot mroe, so if keeping your money is an issue then stay clear of starting a family in the first place.
But sure, there is some risk in marriage. But everything is risky. Spinning plates leave you at much higher risk of false rape accusations, psycho stalkers, unwanted pregnancies, STDs, and jealous boyfriends.
You live your life like you want to, I'm not trying to sell the family life to anyone who prefers something else. But the doom and gloom and that some of you try to paint LTRs with is just counterfactual.
[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is no such "adjustment". It is what it is.
Women like to divorce for money. A lot of women really don't want to stay married.
I'd say it's very likely you'll get divorced and she'll initiate it.
I also completely fail to see how anyone can think that divorce rape is more expensive than the marriage with kids.
It's called math.
By adding up both sides and comparing you end up having a large amount of expenditure per-child for child support you'd never spend on your own but a judge will mandate it, and possibly alimony to the ex-wife when normally together you'd never ever let her spend your money like that.
Now you go to jail if you refuse.
Yup. That's why the smart play is to always be in another city and never let the women know who you are.
But the doom and gloom and that some of you try to paint LTRs with is just counterfactual.
Nope. It happens a lot. It's going to keep happening.
[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What are you looking for? Is it just intimacy or is it something more? Because let's be honest, the shit tests, mind games and attempts to secure commitment (or comfort tests) never really stop.
Women live in the moment. AWALT. That's just how it is. Because of that, the questions of your fitness will never stop.
[–]1oldredder 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
headgames don't stop with LTRs. Women are built on it
[–]bornredd 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you have any kids? My kids are my biggest projects. Watching them grow into their own people is super fulfilling.
[–]randomperson123321 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There is a secret trick here. Have you noticed that some of your plates test you less than others? Spend some time to think why.
It's because of various factors. Your perceived value to them, the comparisons with other guys and how these guys and the women themselves stand next to you, etc.
When your value is perceived as too high for a woman, she nearly stops messing with you. Your best bet is to stick with women that perceive you as someone very valuable.
literally never noticed that ever
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