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| 8 | Setting up my business, wife suddenly bitchyI think I handle this okay, but at one time, miss burst with 'I'm losing respect for you sitting on your ass all day doing nothing.' I responded with some comfort. This right here says it all. You shouldn’t respond with comfort when it’s a shit test. Everything you’re describing says she sees your alpha as low (which is frame, game and looks), while you for some reason think its about beta (providing for her). Probably some combination of your own worries and you handling her shit tests all wron… | /r/askMRP | 21/01/24 08:00 AM |
| 2 | Selecting a gymBarbells, dumbells, bench, squat rack, chinup bar and dip belt or some other way of weighting chinupa. If it has those, you’re good. | /r/askMRP | 07/01/24 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Did I Rambo?Sounds like you’re doing great, this is the expected increasing shit tests as she tests your frame to see if you’re for real. Are you also seeing periods where she is nicer than she used to be? | /r/askMRP | 03/01/24 09:07 AM |
| 7 | Building meaning - advice for a younger guyI miss that puppy love where I did my thing and the other person apparently loved me for who I was. The thought of conditional love is scary. I understand I need to fabricate a life and a person which Im not comfortable with, Ive always been naive and genuine. Going to work and assume the corporate facade is exausting by itself. Coming home and assuming an husband facade must be overwhelming. Look, things don’t just implode at the drop of a hat. You did high level sports. That’s probably harder … | /r/askMRP | 31/12/23 08:30 AM |
| 7 | How to mrp with chronic painYou don’t need crazy lifts or being jacked to do mrp. Frame and game is 80% - you behavior is WAY more important than your looks. You’re doing fine at those numbers, drop a bit of fat if you want to look better, but if your wife isn’t all over you already it’s because your frame is weak and your game is lacking. It’s got nothing to do with your lifting. 10 pounds of muscle is going to have close to no impact. | /r/askMRP | 04/12/23 10:37 PM |
| 7 | How Do You Keep Grinding?At some point, you hit diminishing returns. Find something you enjoy. | /r/askMRP | 03/12/23 10:48 AM |
| 2 | My presence is needed for a happy wife? Whats going on?Well it is a feeling more than behaviour It’s about her behaviors. Does she get to 10 after a few days, ie. she’s sweet, submissive and eagerly engages in fun and varied sex? | /r/askMRP | 24/11/23 08:51 PM |
| 3 | My presence is needed for a happy wife? Whats going on?You need to explain what you mean. “Thaw”, “hard shell”, what do these words mean? Give concrete examples of behavior instead. | /r/askMRP | 24/11/23 05:03 PM |
| 3 | What if you want your wife to lead big parts of your life?You need alpha. Leadership has little to nothing to do with alpha. You’re trying to fix the wrong problem. Frame, game, looks. That’s what you need to work on. | /r/askMRP | 16/09/23 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Own Your Shit Weekly - August 22, 2023I don’t think we disagree. What I mean is that for insecure girls, their insecurities come with shyness, performance anxiety, fear of intimacy and all sorts of other baggage that you have to get past. I don’t mean that you can’t get them to, but they’re just not likely to show great girl game without strong guidance and dominance. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/08/23 09:36 AM |
| 2 | Is it as simple as choosing power?Is the whole business in this place to simply choose to be powerful as opposed to weak? … Those of you that have had success, is that pretty much it? It’s a guide on sexual strategy - what women are attracted to and actionable advice on how to leverage that. If you want to call that power, go ahead. all I desire, from the bottom of my heart is comfort. To feel safe. It’s very comfortable being alpha. Girls dig it and treat you well. | /r/askMRP | 26/08/23 06:49 AM |
| 17 | Covert ContractsA covert contract is when you make some weird imaginary deal in your head like “I’ll get a promotion and do the dishes and she’ll fuck me.” Trying to make it overt will not make it better. The whole idea of “contracts” in a relationship is misguided. It’s just not a transactional arrangement. If she’s attracted to you she’ll be good because she wants to. If she’s not attracted to you, she’s not going to uphold her end of any deal you make. Wanting something, working towards a goal, taking action… | /r/askMRP | 23/08/23 08:57 PM |
| 4 | Own Your Shit Weekly - August 22, 2023I don’t exactly know your situation, but I have the impression you have a wife with some insecurities, and they can be very bad a making bids for reconnection, so you might never see the “inception”, or it’ll be very weak. If she feels it’s hopeless and she isn’t good enough and she’ll never be good enough so there’s no point in trying, and she’s hamstering those thoughts extra hard so she doesn’t have to do something scarily intimate like opening up and being submissive and risking not being go… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 23/08/23 03:32 PM |
| 2 | She gives it up to not lose meIt sounds like you insist that anything but being beta is playing games. To me, beta seems like playing games - it’s this weird transactional idea where you try to be nice, hoping for love and sex in return. If you don’t like doing what it says in the sidebar, I don’t know what to tell you. You’ll have to make a choice, either suck it up and do it anyway, or accept that you’ll have worse relationships. Whining about female nature isn’t doing you any good. | /r/askMRP | 30/07/23 08:44 AM |
| 3 | She gives it up to not lose meLots of us have great marriages and family lives, love our wives and they love us back. It’s not games, it’s the natural way of men and women to live together. It sounds like your problem is that you feel more comfortable with a second tier sexual strategy but aren’t happy that it only gives second tier results, and then try blame it on women and hamster your behavior as being “responsible and emotionally sound”. | /r/askMRP | 29/07/23 08:22 PM |
| 6 | She gives it up to not lose meYou can be attached without becoming supplicant. I’m attached to my kids, that doesn’t mean I let them run our household or take everything they say seriously. Chill out, have fun, tease her, take her. Why should loving her make that impossible? | /r/askMRP | 28/07/23 04:47 PM |
| 10 | She gives it up to not lose meIf you get your frame and game working, it’s very likely the passion returns. If the passion doesn’t return, it’s very likely your frame and game is still weak and you’ll have the same problem with the next girl. | /r/askMRP | 28/07/23 11:50 AM |
| 18 | She gives it up to not lose meIs that a deal breaker or just a phase? You have it backwards. This is not her, it’s you. Why do you think you’ll be any different with another girl? If you can be different, why not just be different now? | /r/askMRP | 28/07/23 11:43 AM |
| 6 | MentorshipI’ve coached guys, so maybe I’m biased, but actually having someone to guide you is a massive help for many. Guys get stuck, or don’t see their own biases, or get stuff wrong, or just need someone to push them and hold them accountable. | /r/askMRP | 26/07/23 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Basic Question about covert contractsOP question is actually very observant and shows a pretty deep understanding of the material. I hadn’t even considered how red pill strategy’s sometimes employ covert contracts to great effect. No, we don’t consider MRP sexual strategy to be covert contracts. So what is it you think the problem is with covert contracts? Because the issue everyone else sees with covert contracts is that they don’t work. | /r/askMRP | 12/07/23 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Basic Question about covert contractsOk, and as you say, holding frame and being alpha works. So it isn’t a contract. | /r/askMRP | 12/07/23 05:28 AM |
| 3 | Basic Question about covert contractsSometimes women actually have a headache or are very tired or whatever. | /r/askMRP | 11/07/23 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Basic Question about covert contractsBoth are CC, only difference between the two statement above is the being alpha and having frame actually works while choir play isn’t effective. If something works, does it require the other party to agree to a contract? | /r/askMRP | 11/07/23 08:58 PM |
| -1 | Basic Question about covert contractsA covert contract is an agreement that you believe exists, even if you have not actually communicated it to your partner, and gotten their consent. If you are making improvements to your life for the soul purpose of getting a certain response from your wife and don’t make the terms known to her it’s by definition a covert contract. No, you don’t sit your wife down and get her consent. In fact, most wives who found out their husband was doing MRP fought it tooth and nail. It still works. MRP simp… | /r/askMRP | 11/07/23 05:31 PM |
| 7 | Basic Question about covert contractsIt’s a covert contract when you make a imaginary agreement in your head, like if I fix the fence she’ll fuck me. It doesn’t work that way. Doing effective work to achieve a goal isn’t a covert contract. If you want to win an MMA amateur fight, going to MMA training isn’t a covert contract, it’s real work. You can’t guarantee a win, but you’re doing the right thing for the right reason. A covert contract would be meditating and believing you’ll win because of your spiritual balance. You could als… | /r/askMRP | 11/07/23 02:58 PM |
| 2 | Basic Question about covert contractsFollowing read pilled teachings with the goals of getting sex from your wife is technically a covert contract. It is not. Doing the dishes hoping to get a blowjob is a covert contract because there is no causation between the two, just something imaginary agreement in your head. Putting in the work to become more attractive so girls want to fuck you isn’t a covert contract. It’s working towards a goal. If your goal is beyond your reach is another matter, but making real and effective progress is… | /r/askMRP | 11/07/23 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Your wife gets first crack at your libidoMoney does almost nothing for raw attraction, looks and muscles help some, but what really turns girls on are small behavioral cues that show frame and game. | /r/askMRP | 11/07/23 09:36 AM |
| 9 | Your wife gets first crack at your libidoI've heard the phrase s "your wife gets first crack at your libido". I realize there's no prescription, but is he suggesting that once you get to the point where your wife rejects you and you know your SMV, you either have to choose divorce or cheating? What exactly does this mean? There’s a lot in that phrase. Part of it is the attitude that you naturally get when your SMV is high, but it’s mood at that point because your wife likes having sex with you so she isn’t rejecting you. It’s like when… | /r/askMRP | 10/07/23 07:26 AM |
| 1 | How does MRP compare to dating in an LTR?You’re not getting rejections once your frame and game is on point anyway | /r/askMRP | 08/07/23 12:14 PM |
| 2 | How does MRP compare to dating in an LTR?I’ve been reading up on MRP on how to deal with the rejection, how to proceed, and how to lower the frequency of rejection and up the frequency of sex (largely with dread). With that being said, we’re not married, and I could just as easily tell her that I don’t approve of her rejections, and I want to be having sex more consistently, otherwise this will not work for me in the long run. Is there any problem with that method? Or would I be better off proceeding with the early stages of dread? It’… | /r/askMRP | 08/07/23 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Own Your Shit Weekly - July 04, 2023You are right. My mission was to be less boring and therefore get more pussy. My mission should have been more along the lines of "I want to live a fulfilling life full of excitement" - for my own benefit. Just be boring but with frame and game so you get tons of pussy. I don’t do any exciting stuff, I don’t want to. I have my job, my kids, a few hobbies, that’s it. It’s very boring, but I don’t care about all the “exciting” stuff some people like - I like getting better at my job, card games an… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 08/07/23 11:13 AM |
| 3 | Own Your Shit Weekly - July 04, 2023Seems like dialing in my nutrition seems to make a difference - I knew it would but never took the time or had the ambition to do so. I'm down 4lbs from a little more than a week ago. I am getting more protein now and am focused on eating better. Looking at my tracking I was successful 4 days out of the last week on both protein and staying under 2400 calories, but for 2 days didnt even track. My justification/excuse brain tells me it was the weekend/holidays, but I know deep down that I need to… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 08/07/23 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Own Your Shit Weekly - July 04, 2023I wasn’t really feeling like being married to her for a decent portion of the day. That night I was having trouble falling asleep due to the fireworks, but everyone else had fell asleep. Staying up, coupled with how I was feeling that day I ended up texting her “I don’t think I can do this”. Why is this? | /r/MarriedRedPill | 08/07/23 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Stop letting people treat you like shitPlease stop this nonsense that responding to disrespect with A&A is somehow degrading and seeking external validation. A lot of your post was fine, but the suggestion on how to handle disrespect is just wrong. Effective shit test passing is one of the cornerstones of MRP. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 08/07/23 07:14 AM |
| 4 | Stop letting people treat you like shitUnderstanding the consequences of actions isn’t a covert contract. You might as well be claiming that expecting to lose weight if you diet is a covert contract, or that bringing a gun to a fight will make it way more likely you win. These are just things that work. And conversely, trying to lose weight without dieting, or trying to win a fight without a gun, that’s just hard. This is the real world. You’re giving shitty, misguided advice to men trying keep their family together. The bottom line … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/07/23 07:50 PM |
| 2 | New to Red Pill - Life's a messInstead of following her lead, I tried to be more assertive/active, I ordered a new fridge on my own (Mistake). I told her to consider it my anniversary gift to her (Mistake). I did not take ownership of my own failings (Mistake), I should not have made a unilateral decision without her input and I should not have tied it to an anniversary gift. It’s fine that you make decisions on your own, and it is tragic that you consider it mistakes. Don’t listen to your wife. Her getting angry is in no way… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/07/23 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Stop letting people treat you like shitHow are we talking past eachother? OP gives this bad advice: Her: (angry look) I can't believe you forgot to take out the garbage on garbage day! You idiot! You: (look her steady in the eye) I can see that you are upset, but it's not ok to speak to me like that. Calmly focus only on her being disrespectful until she can raise a concern in a respectful way. This isn’t some novel take on how to handle disrespect that nobody thought of in the sidebar. It’s not there because it doesn’t work. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/07/23 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Stop letting people treat you like shitI’m directly addressing the poor advice he gave on how to handle disrespect. There’s a reason you don’t see that said on the sidebar. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/07/23 06:21 PM |
| 2 | Stop letting people treat you like shitThis is how men without marriage problems think. Girls who are attracted willingly and eagerly go along with it. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/07/23 06:19 PM |
| 5 | Stop letting people treat you like shitHowever, even being attractive won't be enough if you are still willing to be treated like shit. Once you’re attractive (which is mostly a behavior), absolutely you should begin enforcing boundaries. Your response, with concern about "coming off as fragile" is still invested in winning approval and interest from others, which has to come second to having some self respect. It is critical to calmly enforce your boundaries without getting offended or butthurt, but this is to first preserve your di… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/07/23 06:06 PM |
| 6 | Stop letting people treat you like shitLet’s take it from the top. Guys who get treated like shit, 95% of the time it’s because of their behavior, and the next girl will do the same if they continue acting that way. Getting butthurt over it and nuking your marriage, with all the consequences it has for your family and finances, won’t save the you from having to do the work. You seem to think it’s the wife that’s the problem, and that is just rarely the case. Bottom line is, the guy is going to have to man up to get respect and love, … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/07/23 05:04 PM |
| 13 | Stop letting people treat you like shitHer: (angry look) I can't believe you forgot to take out the garbage on garbage day! You idiot! You: (look her steady in the eye) I can see that you are upset, but it's not ok to speak to me like that. STFU, agree and amplify or amused mastery are much better than this, especially if you’re playing from behind in terms of SMV. How do you intend to enforce these boundaries? Get mad? She already wants to fight. Withhold sex? Score for her. Threaten divorce? Yeah right - and if you actually go thro… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/07/23 07:44 AM |
| 2 | How to respond to my wife's genuine anger at my sexual advances?Sex frequency is high and quality is improving, what makes you think she isn’t attracted to him? | /r/askMRP | 05/07/23 09:31 PM |
| 17 | How to respond to my wife's genuine anger at my sexual advances?This happens as good as always to guys alphaing up, that you see the good times getting better as well as the bitchiness getting worse, it’s a sure sign that what you’re doing is working. She goes through this cycle: I’ll shit test him harder to see if he’s more fuckable than I thought he passed the shit test, that’s hot! repeat It continues like this until you hit the main event, usually a days long extreme shit test. Pass that, and she’ll relax and it’s smooth sailing from there on. Don’t be s… | /r/askMRP | 05/07/23 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Is it time to divorce?You’re not the first to have regrets. But now you know what to do. What are you going to do? Sit around being bitter? Will that make you happy? | /r/askMRP | 05/07/23 04:51 PM |
| 3 | Is it time to divorce?Yeah, MMSLP is good for frame and game - it's a bit on the soft side, calibrating for more alpha and less beta is a good idea, but the ideas are solid. You say you understand frame, but from your post it seems that you don't hold frame and you don't think that it is the no. 1 trait for being attractive, but instead you listen to her and do choreplay. Are you sure you understand frame? If you do, why wasn't your post "I have issues with my wife, and for some reason I did all the shit she wanted m… | /r/askMRP | 03/07/23 07:48 PM |
| 3 | Is it time to divorce?Good. People in worse situations than you have recovered. People in better situations than you have failed. It all comes down to whether or not you can alpha up. Frame and game, that’s your focus. Not doing chores, not listening to her. Frame and game. | /r/askMRP | 03/07/23 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Is it time to divorce?You probably misunderstood Rian. There are plenty of alphas with shit impulse control, if anything that sort of guy is more likely to have frame. There are plenty of reasons to not get yourself in trouble like OP, and I’m sure he’s already aware of that. But what he doesn’t get is that his marriage troubles are from lack of alpha, and that is something different. | /r/askMRP | 03/07/23 05:24 PM |
| 4 | Is it time to divorce?All this “relationship is done” people are spewing in this thread is bullshit. Your problem is lack of frame and game. That’s why she doesn’t like you, and no amount of presents or not being a felon can fix that, and it’ll be the same with the next girl. The question is, can you alpha up? | /r/askMRP | 03/07/23 05:16 AM |
| 5 | Is it time to divorce?You notice this but not the lack of alpha? | /r/askMRP | 03/07/23 05:13 AM |
| 8 | Hitting the gym tonight.This trigged me because she knew I was trying to put my best foot forward for the long weekend to repair things. No, you were not putting your best foot forward. You were being doing choreplay. You’re so stuck in beta world that you think this is the key to anything. It is not. You have to be alpha. Hold frame. Pass shit tests. Do shit you enjoy. Be cocky. Learn game. Play dread. Be egocentric. Read the sidebar and do what it says. Lifting is good, but she’s not going to fuck you just because yo… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/07/23 01:02 PM |
| 3 | I don't feel like fucking my wifeNow I don't know what has changed, I just don't feel like it. So she hasn’t gained weight, cut her hair short and become boring in bed? It sounds like you need to see a doctor. | /r/askMRP | 18/06/23 08:22 PM |
| 9 | Is there moving forward from this point? 7 year relationship (26F) (28M)It doesn’t sound like you have it in you to change your behavior, so no, you’re unlikely to have good relationships. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 18/06/23 08:19 PM |
| 5 | Attachment Theory and Applicability to MRPI like to go hiking. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 15/06/23 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Attachment Theory and Applicability to MRPI love listening to music. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 15/06/23 03:36 PM |
| 7 | Attachment Theory and Applicability to MRPI enjoy playing video games. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 15/06/23 07:02 AM |
| 10 | Attachment Theory and Applicability to MRPI find joy in reading a good book. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 14/06/23 05:32 PM |
| 16 | Attachment Theory and Applicability to MRPI appreciate a good cup of coffee. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 14/06/23 05:23 PM |
| 2 | What's the point of an LTR?It’s not shit tests all the way, at all. It’s love, respect, submission, great sex, raising a family together. The alpha experience in LTRs and marriage is way different than your average chump’s. | /r/askMRP | 12/06/23 08:25 AM |
| 3 | ILYBINILWY received todayIt's a good idea to talk to a lawyer, yeah. But really, you need to understand the basics. Women doesn't want weak men that obey. They test if you're fuckable by asking for all sorts of stuff - if you do as she says, if you let yourself by controlled by her demands, anger or sadness, that's a clear sign to her that you're a man without spine. They want masculine, cocky men who aren't swayed. | /r/askMRP | 28/05/23 02:47 PM |
| 5 | ILYBINILWY received todayBasically my only way back is chore play, shrink, and kissing her ass. No it’s not. These thing are all counterproductive and will only make you miserable and make her like you less. You need frame and game. You need to learn to handle shit tests. You need to be unaffected by her moods and accusations, you need to relax and act confident, even better if you can ramp it up to being cocky and egocentric. You need to think long and hard on whether or not you want to turn your marriage around, and i… | /r/askMRP | 27/05/23 06:09 PM |
| 3 | ILYBINILWY received todayThat’s one of the things that sparked a huge fight last week, so she sees it and obviously doesn’t like it. You clearly haven’t read anything and are clueless about what is going on. That you fight over something is in no way or form a sign that she “doesn’t like it.” You can’t take her words or responses at face value, that’s not relationship dynamics work, at all. | /r/askMRP | 27/05/23 06:02 PM |
| 7 | ILYBINILWY received todayShe’s treating him like shit because he’s low value. It’ll be the next with the same girl if he doesn’t up his game. | /r/askMRP | 27/05/23 05:57 PM |
| 7 | I don't want to be a stoic. Any advice for the emotional man?I wrote about the difference between communication and what you’re signalling. Those are different things, and getting labels on it to understand the difference could help a thinker like yourself. https://old.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/feeq65/communication_and_signals/ | /r/askMRP | 23/05/23 07:08 PM |
| 1 | "Do you like my dissected boobs?"What are you talking about? My wife is rarely wrong, and when she is I don’t lecture her. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 15/05/23 04:59 PM |
| – | I’m just fucked, raw responses to this post would be appreciated.Maybe reading Jordan Peterson can save you. He seems to be the go to for guys at rock bottom. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 11/05/23 08:16 PM |
| 5 | Sex initiation guidelines?Going for what you want is attractive. Asking for permission is not. Rejection is a test - getting butthurt over it means you fail and come off as unattractive. Not getting affected by it is attractive. It’s often called overcoming LMR (last minute resistance), there should be some good guides on it around, for example Married Man Sex Life Primer has a good section on it. Be relaxed, unaffected, confident, cocky and egocentric. Girls love that. Just stick to that. Don’t fall for any of the BS ab… | /r/askMRP | 10/05/23 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Went through my GF phone and now I need advice/insightIf we take it at face value, he sounds alpha enough, just coupled with some toxic incel ideas and misunderstanding and some insecurities. | /r/askMRP | 10/05/23 09:20 AM |
| 0 | Went through my GF phone and now I need advice/insightTelling a dude you want to be a little more than a cumrag is a reflection of character. Girls get submissive around alphas and say and do kinky shit to please their man. Hasn't she done stuff like that for you too? My concern is the statistics of marriage satisfaction and divorce rates once a woman reaches certain digits. Why do you think statistics matter to you? If you're alpha, you're way, way ahead of the statistics. You're talking about what happens to joe average, some weak guy who has no … | /r/askMRP | 06/05/23 09:24 PM |
| 10 | Went through my GF phone and now I need advice/insightYou’ve got some serious flaws in your understanding of people. It sounds like the dumbest toxic incel ideas got into your head. How can it come as a surprise to you that girls have sex? Why are you fucking up your mind and relationship by visualizing her past in ways that makes your monkey brain react as if she’s unfaithful? If you can’t resolve this mental issue you have, any future relationship will hinge on the hope that you never learn about her past, that you never begin visualizing it. You… | /r/askMRP | 05/05/23 08:27 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Her response to OI after Hard "No"Sure, it’s pretty much all there in my submitted threads. There’s not much of a trick to it - just do the work, the instructions are in the sidebar. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/04/23 08:50 PM |
| 3 | Starting marriage counseling, any advice?Counselling is utter bullshit. He can't convince her to be more attracted to you. What will happen is, he'll ask you both what you want from the other. One assumption here is that a relationship is a negotiated deal, where if both parties put in what the other wants, they'll reward them. That's wrong. The other assumption is that people will tell you what they want. Also wrong. So she'll say what she wants you to do (which will be a shit test, asking you to be more beta). And you'll say what you… | /r/askMRP | 15/12/22 12:43 PM |
| 4 | Started off RP for 1.5 years - Then Reverted to BP - Can it be saved?I'm wondering if this is most likely a lost cause or if I can right the ship? Girls have a short memory. If I can right the ship, what is the best way to go about it? Just do it. I obviously can't just become the guy I was in phase 1 overnight. Yes you can. | /r/askMRP | 17/08/22 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Handling a Fearful-Avoidant WifeIn what way? | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/08/22 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Handling a Fearful-Avoidant WifeI can’t say if every field uses the same terminology, but there are both dismissive avoidants and fearful avoidants (it’s a scale of course). | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/08/22 05:50 AM |
| 8 | Something I don’t Understand…SO, with all that in mind. QUESTION: If you have the option to go nuclear early (confronting her infidelity, calling her out) why not do that, it cuts off the infidelity, dread goes through the roof. Then continue on with your MAP. You got the whole idea wrong. It’s not the threat of leaving that works. It’s being attractive and high value that works. And when you’re that, it just works without you having to threaten anything. The “fuck me or fuck you” isn’t the final step, it’s the desperate la… | /r/askMRP | 02/08/22 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Own Your Shit Weekly - May 24, 2022I laid it out in my handling FA wives post, but the main idea is that you don’t give much of the warm, cuddly, comforting beta. The beta she needs, you give through other means like taking care of the kids, the house, etc. And for excuses, well. If she’s not sucking dick on command, they lack frame. FA girls can be turned on just like any other girl. In fact the F is for fearful of losing her man, if you got value that’s a string you can pull to make it easier. If your wife is fucking you, then … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 24/05/22 09:13 PM |
| 5 | Own Your Shit Weekly - May 24, 2022I don’t think I ever said anything but that frame is everything. The issue with FAs when you have frame isn’t that she’s fearful, it’s that she’s avoidant. For them, there is no such thing as a “warm, inviting safe space”. That sort of intimacy is not safe, it’s scary and triggers an avoidance response. FA wives need a rock more than an oak. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 24/05/22 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Year 1 at MRP - Sex shame and angerI did not found any cheat codes yet. They’re in the sidebar. Think less, use sidebar cheat codes more. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 26/04/22 05:08 AM |
| 1 | What's this subs idea of a good husband?I generally agree, but don't know if in practice it has been so clear. Often Alpha=good, Beta=bad. Yeah, it’s a big issue. Especially when guys who think alpha=good and then combine that with alpha=turngirlson, and then get all confused. | /r/askMRP | 03/01/22 08:58 PM |
| 1 | What's this subs idea of a good husband?We shouldn’t each have our own definition of what is alpha and what is beta. Alpha should be what satisfies one part of her sexual strategy, and beta the other. That’s clear and concise. Alpha shouldn’t be used to mean “what I want”, “general cool guy” or whatever. That just leads to all sorts of weirdness and misunderstanding. We have words like captain and oak for the combination of ideal alpha and beta. | /r/askMRP | 03/01/22 04:39 PM |
| 16 | What's this subs idea of a good husband?It’s clearly spelled out that women have a dual sexual strategy and seek both alpha and beta. Good beta (ie. beta that won’t hurt your alpha) includes passing comfort tests (ie. providing support when needed and it isn’t just a shit test), providing, fixing shit in the home, leading the family, etc. But really all that beta stuff just makes her feel safe and comfy. It doesn’t turn her on, doesn’t make you love her, doesn’t make her respect you. And it is fucking easy for most guys to do that. Th… | /r/askMRP | 31/12/21 09:34 AM |
| 4 | I went nuclear on my wife , not sure what to do now.Don’t put up with her laziness. Raise your expectations of her, and when she doesn’t meet your standards, leave, like you did. It’s not going nuclear, it’s enforcing boundaries. Stop being such a wuss about it. Either live with it, or push her to do better. | /r/askMRP | 17/12/21 08:24 PM |
| 3 | Coping with fear and attachmentThere is no indication that therapy or anything else can remedy the low self esteem that is the cause of this. Nobody is magically going to fix you. Maybe psychadelics can do something, but I’m not sure. What you can do is apply mindfullness or stoicism to get control over your mind and actions. It’s about building discipline and habit so these absurd thoughts don’t get control. Solid MRP understanding and high SMV also helps immensely. If you are alpha, and she is very attracted to you, that kn… | /r/askMRP | 01/10/21 05:43 AM |
| 3 | Wife continues to complain about how little I’m home when we moved to our location due to the proximity to her worthless parents. Cut the drama and hire a realtor?It’s stupid now. For 6 months it worked perfectly. It recently became a pattern once we moved back home. I don’t know if she’s in more of a comfort zone here and thinks she can get away with more or what. She is getting away with it. Put down your foot, enforce your boundaries, assert your standards. You don’t know what she can handle unless you play the game. | /r/askMRP | 26/07/21 12:29 PM |
| 6 | What am I doing wrong? When is it time to give up?I hear nothing about how you got great frame and game in the presence of your wife. The number one thing is the signals - some big and many of them small - that you send through behavior, words, body language. They’re wired to suss out your state of mind from small cues, and that’s what they’re really attracted to, mindset, frame. They want babies who think and feel like an alpha. | /r/askMRP | 10/07/21 06:57 AM |
| 2 | Getting conflicting ideas from mrp and books.Pump and dump is not at all rape. It is a consentual activity done out of passion. Are you still stuck in the idea that girls can’t want sex just for the sex? | /r/askMRP | 16/06/21 05:35 AM |
| 12 | How to pick up plates when marriedIs the problem you aren’t allowed to go out? | /r/askMRP | 31/05/21 02:32 PM |
| 5 | Baby Mamma told me she's been thinking of being a stripper.Are you fucking batshit insane? Imagine your kid's classmates finding videos of her parents' sex work. You want your kid to be a bullied pariah? | /r/askMRP | 13/04/21 06:22 PM |
| 2 | I need to pukeshould I just throw in the towel with this one and start filing the divorce paperwork ? I really don’t see how I can ever be attractive in her eyes after this. Yeah, that's how attraction works. You see someone hot but you know they were once not hot, you don't find them attractive at all. It's the same with everything else. Bill Gates was once working from a garage, he'll always be a poor loser. Jeff Bezos started out delivering packages himself, everyone thinks of him like a delivery boy. You … | /r/askMRP | 25/02/21 11:21 AM |
| 24 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Bummer. Move on then. Maybe she’ll even miss the dickings so much she develops romantic love again. But continuing with her and begging her to love you is a really stupid course. | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:54 PM |
| 15 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Just tell her like it is. She grew on you and you want to go exclusive, do the whole serious relationship thing. | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:34 PM |
| 3 | Why I Took The Red Pill From My Experience - Men and Women Dont Want The Same Thing Anymore (Mostly)And here I thought the red pill was about becoming aloha, developing frame, and having fun with girls who really wanted you to fuck them. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 01/02/21 06:09 AM |
| 9 | Views from outside the US?The egalitarian Scandinavian culture I live in is quite unlike the US and everything on MRP applies unfiltered. Sure divorce laws etc. are way different, but this place isn’t about divorce. Divorce law doesn’t matter fuck all when she wants to be with you. She’s not doing some utilitarian calculation on the monetary benefit of leaving you when you’re alpha. | /r/askMRP | 31/01/21 06:54 PM |
| 3 | Maybe a more mature man perspective will change my mind.There is no answer to that question except who do you want to be? If you know who you want to be, it is easy to figure out what to do. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 21/01/21 07:20 PM |
| 1 | I want a divorce and the time is now.If you get called a little bitch - either you are a little bitch, in which case you don’t have leverage to make the person back down and nothing says “even smaller bitch” than impotent rage, so you should STFU or A&A and work on not being a little bitch. Or someone is trying to get a rise out of you, and you should be more suave than letting yourself get provoked like that. | /r/askMRP | 03/01/21 09:02 AM |
| 4 | Accepting it’s my fault - how do I?My mind is constantly swamped with feelings of resentment and frustration at how she has treated me all these years, and how I continue to struggle through this unsatisfying relationship everyday. Time and 100 blowjobs heal a lot of wounds. Otherwise, if you really can’t get over it, move on. My mind is constantly telling me she doesn’t want sex, because I know she doesn’t What a load of bullshit. Of course she wants sex. Of course you can become the sort of man she wants to have sex with. Do th… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/01/21 01:45 PM |
| 10 | Can I have a good life and maintain sexual relationships with TMAU? Feeling hopelessPlusses and minusses, man. Everyone’s a package deal. Say you’re a 5, TMAU is -3, this place will give you +3, you’re back at a 5. Now do some of that lifestyle adjustment to get that TMAU down to -1 or -2, you’re at a 6 or 7. And most importantly, with this you’re now playing alpha game. Betas can get girls too, but betas are treated like shit. Alphas get treated well. It’s a ton more fun being alpha. So stop whining and do the best with what you have. Maybe you stink, but if you’re a fucking m… | /r/askMRP | 02/01/21 01:40 PM |
| 1 | I want a divorce and the time is now.You are completely missing the mark here. The issue is he isn’t alpha so his wife treats him like shit. This idea you have that “just suck it up, do more with the kids, and eventually she’ll be thankful and have the energy to treat you well” is blue bullshit. | /r/askMRP | 31/12/20 11:41 AM |
| 1 | I want a divorce and the time is now.Getting angry and arguing is a universal sign of insecurity and lack of self control, across cultures. What you accept and how you teach people to interact respectfully is a different matter. What matters here is that you have leverage. If you don’t have leverage, anger is ineffective and impotent. If you do have leverage, anger isn’t necessary and just signals you lack frame. | /r/askMRP | 31/12/20 11:10 AM |
| 2 | Just discovered this sub and I want to get feedback from you allI wasn’t talking self defense, but ok. BJJ is an awesome sport, and for self defense it is also extremely useful in safe environments or if you have to restrain people in general. Shooting guns is also just a sport unless you’re doing every day carry. And it comes with its own set of legal and safety risks (manslaughter or worse, accidents, getting shot by a cop). If you actually become more safe by having a gun, you should probably look into moving. | /r/askMRP | 31/12/20 10:51 AM |
| 2 | Just discovered this sub and I want to get feedback from you allMRP has a lot of great insight into relationships and building your life, but at your stage of the game, it's like offering an intoductory karate lesson We don’t give the equivalent of karate classes here, man. MMA, BJJ, boxing, wrestling, sure. But karate, no way. | /r/askMRP | 30/12/20 07:28 AM |
| -1 | I want a divorce and the time is now.Good ol' gamer & internet troll eh? How's World of Warcraft working out for you these days? What are you talking about? Wtf are you criticizing, exactly? That you focus on self-sacrifice, seem to fail to understand the problem, and don’t give any red advice that would actually turn him and his marriage around for him. It’s about him, not them. If you want to provide value, teach him how to be alpha. Motivate him with the fruits of being alpha. This “be a better beta” you go for now is just bad a… | /r/askMRP | 30/12/20 07:25 AM |
| 2 | I want a divorce and the time is now.I think I want to make it work just because I am very agreeable and don't want to hurt my wife And there’s the reason your marriage is shit. Sidebar, dude. Effort. | /r/askMRP | 29/12/20 11:47 PM |
| 1 | I want a divorce and the time is now.You know gangster movies, where some mook yells at the mob boss and he’s just talking about something else, all smiles and worry? Who’s the the weak one there? | /r/askMRP | 29/12/20 11:44 PM |
| -2 | I want a divorce and the time is now.Wtf is this? Are you even red? | /r/askMRP | 29/12/20 11:41 PM |
| 4 | Found MRP? You do you - or why you don't have "frame".I don't think we're that far apart We’re not. I think the core of it is that what you’re talking about is what takes you from good to great. When I was doing coaching I had something similar as the “end goal”. The question is, does it work for someone who haven’t grasped the fundamentals? I believe it is calibrated to your inner-self. Whatever good or bad you have inside of you is going to be aired and exposed when you respond to that shit test externally. Without figuring out that stuff, everyt… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/12/20 11:18 PM |
| 7 | Found MRP? You do you - or why you don't have "frame".It’s rare that I disagree with you, but this I don’t see. While inner game is the end goal, you can’t beeline for it, and it is not what newbies lack. Newbie “inner game” would be poorly calibrated to the realities of attraction and going for would give poor results. Lots of men are confident, know what they want and go for it, without being attractive at all - plenty of the new “autists” here fit that bill. The process is first you learn the insights and develop the technique, then you master i… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/12/20 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Why won’t you go gay for pay?The psychological trauma seems like a big downside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/20 05:51 PM |
| 7 | Abundance mentality?I guess my question is this: How... as a married man do I get myself into an abundance mentality when abundance is not there? I don’t want to cheat on my wife. I don’t want to cheat on my wife either. That doesn’t stop me from talking to other people, and experiencing how easy it is to turn girls is enough for most. I have tried the initiate and if you get rejected just go to the gym or do something else.. But she catches on to that... “you don’t get what you want so you’re just gonna leave?” An… | /r/askMRP | 14/11/20 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do men gravitate towards the Red Pill?Because it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Is there any "systematic" way to get the average guy to stop being such an unfuckable loser?Teaching men about dual sexual strategy and what women want is a good start. All this “you should be loved for who you are” is such bullshit, and for the guys who try, telling them that women are attracted to men who will support, respect and sacrifice for them only leads to bad relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/20 06:43 AM |
| 2 | [Discussion] The reason this sub constantly repeats the same talking point is because of an aversion to studying systemic problemsPeople don't bring up higher costs of living, decaying small towns, overwork, the gig economy, the abuse of religion, untreatable mental illness, etc. The problem is men who lack of alpha, period. Some of that is how they’re raised, some of that is cultural influence, some of that is that they think women want beta and not alpha. Ultimately it is on the weak men to alpha up, but the path to that is that the understanding of dual sexual strategy becomes mainstream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/20 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Maybe the end — unsure how to proceed after massive derailmentSo if she didn’t have regrets, your plan was to start a family with her, and when people found her video and shared them in your social circle, you’d do what? Find her a new job? Just tell your kids to suck up the bullying, forget their friends and live as pariahs? Move town? Maybe her videos aren’t available online, but if they are, she’s long term fucked, damaged goods. If they aren’t, fix the issue. You want to be treated a certain way, be treated a certain way. Don’t enable her to stay hatef… | /r/askMRP | 31/10/20 06:10 AM |
| 5 | Wife's note to herself last night.That’s good, you just lack the SMV and frame to pull it off apparently. Keep working on that. And she writes you talk about owing her, fuck that shit. She doesn’t owe you anything. Be attractive and she’ll submit willingly, talking about what she owes is retarded. | /r/askMRP | 29/10/20 06:04 PM |
| 3 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a woman's looks?Not very low, but I’m in my 40s so hard to remember. I was never with anyone overweight and only rarely anyone normal weight, if girls aren’t slim or fit they don’t do much for me. Maybe a 6 was the lowest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 06:01 PM |
| 1 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?I just imagine it must be a difficult subject, because it is one of those areas where people don’t say what they mean, just like sales, negotiations, and banter. So you have to read between the lines and not let yourself get manipulated, and send the signals that will influence the other party in the way you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 05:55 PM |
| 0 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?You could teach them about appropriate behavior in different circumstances. Say you’re dealing with a car salesman versus getting an instruction from your boss, you’re not supposed to act the same way. Kids get that. I’m sure boys can understand that they’re supposed to be good team members and be respectful in a school setting, without giving them the idea that they have to be beta to girls. What do you tell them about romantic interactions now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 04:56 PM |
| 0 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?I also suspect many of the RP men on this forum aren’t interested in anything constructive and just want to evangelise and spew bile. I think you confuse RP with incel and MRA. RP guys lift, hold frame, practice game, spin plates and have a fun, easy time with girls. Or they’re new guys seeking to learn that. If you’re bitter about women treat you, you’re not red. Girls treat alphas well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 04:45 PM |
| 1 | "Evo psych" is badly used by redpillers to rationalize their preexistings beliefs.Edit2: If you want another example of what I'm talking about, see how the guy who invented the words "alpha male" after studying wolves had to come back 20 years later to say there was no such thing, but too late, a bunch of dudes had already based their ideology on that fact (or rather, rationalized that fact to support their ideology). I think you should read up on what red pill is. The red pill alpha is nothing like what is/was called alpha in biology. Red pill alpha isn’t aggressive or the l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 08:25 AM |
| 4 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a woman's looks?8. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 08:13 AM |
| 3 | Own Your Shit Weekly - October 20, 2020Bro, remember how well shit worked when you did something and applied yourself? You got so much going for you, but you squander it with procrastination and drinking and navel gazing. I don’t think you need MRP. I think you need Jordan Peterson. You’re lost, deep in a hole, and JP understands how men get out from there. Read his stuff. When you’re back on your feet and ready to work, get back to thinking frame and sexual strategy. Your problem right now isn’t that you do what your wife says, it’s… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 21/10/20 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Chads of PPD, what is life like for you?Sex on demand, and dudes pay me for advice. It’s good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/20 11:31 AM |
| 3 | Considering it seems like a lot of people meet online nowadays, how does it work for you?Met a girl online 17 years ago. Still living with her and our 3 children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/20 08:55 PM |
| 5 | New life Direction and rebuilding a life after total collapseI had cancer many years ago, and I just flat out told some friends and family that I wanted to do normal stuff. I didn’t want everything to be about my cancer, they didn’t have to treat me like I needed sympathy, I just wanted to hang. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 12/10/20 09:05 PM |
| 66 | New life Direction and rebuilding a life after total collapseI’m sorry for your loss. You’re grieving, probably depressed. Your brain chemistry is fucked, it needs to heal. This is no time to be an alpha god, just heal. Focus on the basics: eat, sleep, exercise, social. Don’t aim high, just improve a bit in each of those areas, every week get a bit better. If that’s drinking a litre of chocolate milk each day to stop the weight loss (you’re not healing if you’re starving) and a multivitamin to cover the lack of micronutrients in your shitty diet, that’s a… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 12/10/20 08:45 PM |
| 1 | LTR suddenly got into analA minority of women whom are single have the muscle control to 'anal fuck' What does this mean? | /r/askMRP | 11/10/20 05:23 PM |
| 3 | core ideas of the redpillWe’re not, they’re just not red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/20 03:23 PM |
| 0 | You guys are missing the whole point of FDS, the point of FDS is NOT to solely attract men. The strategy is to WEED out men they don’t want.So I looked, the first relevant link is the handbook: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/wiki/recommended_reading Nothing there. Where is the advice on how to improve on how attractive and valuable partner you are? The dating advice books list stuff like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/He's_Just_Not_That_into_You which seems like more of the usual FDS style “men should pursue you”, with no advice on how to become the sort of girl that HVMs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 07:26 PM |
| 1 | You guys are missing the whole point of FDS, the point of FDS is NOT to solely attract men. The strategy is to WEED out men they don’t want.I can’t find it. If it is there, it is hidden well. Do you think self improvement is core to FDS? Can you find somewhere that shows that it is a focus of FDS? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 05:59 PM |
| 6 | Time to ask for a divorce?Sounds like she fails the when to next your wife test https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/37l2q0/when_to_next_your_wife/ And you do too. My vote is ditch her, ditch old you, read sidebar and build better you. | /r/askMRP | 29/09/20 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Execution focus and self evaluationI think of it is rook-eh, but I’m not a native English speaker so you tell me. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/09/20 04:51 AM |
| 2 | You guys are missing the whole point of FDS, the point of FDS is NOT to solely attract men. The strategy is to WEED out men they don’t want.What are the major traits they see as giving womem value? How often do you see anyone actually talk about and focus on improvement on FDS? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/20 04:49 AM |
| 2 | You guys are missing the whole point of FDS, the point of FDS is NOT to solely attract men. The strategy is to WEED out men they don’t want.Part of FDS IS to 'level up' and become a high-value person. Examples, please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 07:57 PM |
| 1 | You guys are missing the whole point of FDS, the point of FDS is NOT to solely attract men. The strategy is to WEED out men they don’t want.For women it’s more important to be selective than it is to be “high value” that’s just a fact. You clearly have no idea how high value men operate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 07:55 PM |
| 0 | Why do most women lose the desire for sex after they have a child?Men slip into the fatherhood and lose all frame. They have to help the mother, because she’s doing the hard work. They have to care for the baby. They all but forget themselves in the “what can I help you with, honey?” and that loss of frame kills all attraction. On top of that, they are now emotíonally on the hook more than ever, and a lot of men were beta before but their wives put on act to make them stat, now the wives don’t have to do that anymore. A man who still has frame after having chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many Red Pillers anti-abortion, when banning abortion will probably force more men into marriage or child support?Probably religious or cultural reasons that has nothing to do with the red pill. Also, anti-abortion people tend to be very vocal about it, it’s like they’re very proud how they’re rescuing babies, while most people are just meh of course women should have the right to abortions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/20 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Branch Swing From Rich/Alpha?Very unlikely. Also, being rich isn’t that important. Alpha is very important, and the good beta traits evolving around taking care of and leading the family. You don’t need to be rich for that. | /r/askTRP | 27/09/20 06:27 AM |
| 3 | Execution focus and self evaluationThe recommended literature is great. Just remember to do it, practice, build skill, self evaluate. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/09/20 03:49 PM |
| 21 | Death of a parentSorry for your loss, man. There’s nothing wrong with mourning your dad, or crying. Going all “whah I can’t stand it I don’t know what to do someone please help me”, that’s a different thing. Grieving isn’t being weak, being weak is being weak. | /r/askMRP | 26/09/20 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Execution focus and self evaluationDon't know that RUCCE is very catchy; like DEER and STFU, I went for it being helpful more than sounding catchy :) but the principles listed are solid. So many guys just look uncomfortable. Tense, nervous, self-conscious, basically the opposite of your list. Yeah. There’s a lot of literature that covers how you react to shit tests etc., but so little about how to carry yourself and signal frame in all the time in between. So I made that to give guys some basic traits to focus on. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/09/20 06:07 PM |
| 10 | Execution focus and self evaluationYeah man. Imagine if you had been talking to random people daily when buying groceries and shit so now you were good at it and comfortable doing it. Well, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the 2nd best time is now. Get out there and practice, build skill, self evaluate. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/09/20 05:56 PM |
| 4 | Execution focus and self evaluationYeah, the red pill aware disease has to be kept in check. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/09/20 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Execution focus and self evaluationIn the end it is individual, different guys struggle with different things. Reading the literature and making sure you actually go out and do what it says, before moving on to the next book, is the key. Prioritize and execute, build skill, self evaluate. Your list looks solid. I’ve coached some guys and I also had them self evaluate their behaviors for how alpha and they beta were and get rid of anything that was hurting their alpha and doing more that was high alpha, and I had them focus on bei… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/09/20 05:51 PM |
| 1 | You need to take things less seriouslyA lot of MGTOWs seem to only “take the other choice” because they can’t hack it and remain bitter and resentful about “female behavior”. It is very few men who are able to get over such a core instinct as the desires for sex, love and family. But if some can, good for them. But those who whine about their romantic woes or the sexual marketplace or whatever, instead of just growing some balls and mastering it, that’s not red pilled at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 11:19 AM |
| 3 | You need to take things less seriouslyTRP promotes the idea that all women are money and children stealing partner's. TRP is a breeding ground for the alt right and nazis. You need to distinguish between red pillers (Chad alphas, and new guys working hard to get there) and the rest: MRAs, incels, MGTOWs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 10:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV: As women are the pickiest sex, they should be expected to do the first love. Women should be taught from early on how to ask guys out and stop being passive.No, what men should do is, instead of trying to invent arguments that makes it easier for them, they should understand the reality of human behavior and use it to optimize their chances. Women select for drive, courage and social skills, and being able to approach them signals exactly that. The idea that your value to them exists independently of your ability to approach them is nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 10:46 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else here red-pilled but also want to be a decent human being?I am 100% red pill and I don’t like the TRP subreddit, way too much incel content with guys complaining about women. To me, being red is being alpha and mastering sexual strategy so you can have a great with women. Whining gets you nowhere, and for alphas there really isn’t much to whine about. Being alpha does in no way require you to a bad person. It’s like learning to fight, you can fuck up a lot people if you want, but you don’t have to. Same goes with all power. Have you checked out r/marri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 06:00 AM |
| 11 | Low Sex Marriage as the NormHow do you deal with the influences of low sex marriage from some of your closest friends? Anyone else see this in their friends and direct relationships? Of course we see that around us. Most men are pussies. I just ignore it. I think my wife talks about it with her friends more, and when she gets drunk, she sometimes shows off to our friends by telling how she gives blowjobs every day or such. I can't recommend it, especially men with low self esteem react poorly and become hostile towards me. | /r/askMRP | 17/09/20 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Genetics is so much more important than upbringing or environmentGenetics probably matter a lot more than people think, because behavior has a big genetic component. But your post seems to suggest that it is about looks, which is just plain silly. Looks is one of the smaller factors for men, especially if you're only factoring in the genetic component since most men can get a good physique from lifting and dieting. Aside from the very bottom of the pool, the looks you were born with aren't that important. If you manage to get fit, know game and have frame, yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/20 08:58 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?My next prediction will be that even if I tell you that social skills and dating come easily to me, you'll doubt it. I just scrolled through your post history, and yeah, I’m going to trust the struggles you’ve posted over you claiming something different here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/20 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?I already said "Street smarts" gets you anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, climate change deniers, trickle-down economics, small businesses using "traditional practices" that lose out to cutting edge insights. No, that is what ignorance and being gullible gets you. You just mistook being gullible for street smarts. Stop and think about what that means. Do you seriously believe that everyone who doesn’t rely on science for everything is prone to extreme superstition? You don’t think there are people wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/20 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's probably simply because we're debating on an online forum, and I'm saying things you don't like. Critical thinking is required nearly every minute of my job, I'd be woefully unemployed without it. That shit is domain specific. I’m sure you’re good at your job where you’re supposed to use the scientific method and rely on studies. But you can’t even seem to realize that you don’t rely on studies when you’re learning to play football. Lots of intelligent peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/20 07:27 PM |
| 2 | The “manosphere” and other adjacent communities are damaging to the majority of people’s mental health who engage in themIt’s just like fitness advice. To the guys who listen and do the work, it helps them tremendously. Others can’t hack it and will feel bad about being fat and weak and muh genetics and lookism. /shrug | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/20 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?There's fatass football coaches on the sidelines who know more about football than the athletes they coach. So you’re saying the coaches used science so they can teach football? Just like a born again Christian thinks their new outlook on life is due to Jesus Christ, when in reality it's just their own outward projection and new focus on what they believe. And if you want to learn to play football, do you ask someone who knows how to teach that, or do you ask a born again christian about how to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/20 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?I’m an actual scientist “bro.” I know the limitations of where and when you should bring studies into the equation. What we’re talking about is bigger than this. Ok, mr. scientist. This sub is about sexual strategy. The guys who fuck a lot of girls, how many of them rely on the scientific method? The guys who are great at using the scientific method, how many of them are fucking a lot of girls? You seem like a man who prides himself in his rationality. When you look at who has success and who do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/20 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?If we don't have a scientific way to gain knowledge about a claim, then we're left with fuck-all, not "your anecdote vs. my anecdote," because confirmation bias and sampling problems would still prevent us from making any credible claims. Do you really think that is the way the world works? The vast majority of the skills you have, your learnt them with zero scientific study behind them. People figure stuff out just fine without it. There are some things the scientific method is VERY good at obv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/20 01:03 PM |
| 0 | CMV: To solve the relations between the genders, we need to think of ways for men to reduce their attraction to womenThat’s not going to happen until we get VR porn or sex robots that can compete with the real thing. A much more practical and enjoyable path for a man is to just learn about the red pill and alpha up. Once you can turn women on, all the issues with dating and sex disappear. I realize it won’t work for everyone, some men just don’t have the back bone for it, but it does work. It’s like the obesity problem, we know the solution (fitness and diet), and those who put in the effort overcome their pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/20 10:07 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?You have to think. Guys who says that all young girls are in triple digit N counts of course haven’t experienced it. And as I said, it isn’t the red alphas saying that, it is the incels and betas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/20 07:08 AM |
| 3 | Tools for Vision and Mission?Clarity on vision and mission helps with short term and long term goals Does it? The man's mission is paramount, which sets the female as secondary/support, meaning she can't be his whole world (and she has no respect and only contempt if he does). Aren’t you already past that, just being RP aware? Or is she still your whole world and you think vision will help with that? Here’s a typical failure mode: man struggles with being alpha. Works on vision and mission, comes up with something non-alpha… | /r/askMRP | 12/09/20 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?Let’s just take one aspect: replicability. It’s low. Studies are rarely repeated by others, and when they are they often give different results. That wouldn’t be the case if studies were meaningful and done with rigor. Sorry bro, you have to think for yourself. Scientists are people, fallible, driven by personal ambitions, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/20 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?Not at all. They are challenging medical science which is WAY more rigorous than social science, and they can’t point to real world observations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 10:05 PM |
| 3 | Tools for Vision and Mission?Yeah. Especially since this place is a lot about getting sex, and the kind of stuff guys put in their vision and mission tends to have nothing to do with being alpha. It’s always “great career, great dad” and never “cocky, doesn’t take shit seriously, makes fun of girls”. I’d also like to know how many winners have personal vision statements, and of the middle aged men who sat down and wrote one how many made it big and how many 10 years later where still just having day dreams about how some mo… | /r/askMRP | 11/09/20 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?Why? We agree, there is lots of bad science being published, and that people here often use research where it isn’t applicable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 08:41 PM |
| 6 | Men don’t seem to like it when women “try” to be attractive?The guys you’re attracted to are higher value so they have other options, while the guys you’re not attracted to don’t and find you a great catch. That’s much more likely to explain it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?As I said, the research is often bad and clearly conflicts with people’s real world experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?But blankly alluding to bad science isn't a good look. So you’re saying there isn’t a lot of bad science being published? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?you do know that methodologies get discussed and evaluated in about every serious study? And you do know that there are more methods of testing behaviors than surveys of what they would do? Of course. But still, social and psychological studies often have serious flaws, and even more common bloopers will refer to studies that clearly don’t say anything about red pill insights. What is your claim of ''observable'' and ''real world'' behaviour? The stuff we see happening in our lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 03:24 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Referring to human beings as "high value" and "low value" is low value behaviorI don’t really take issue with someone saying “high value mate” as long as they don’t try to generalize it for other people (which is common). Things like “A HVM will never sleep with you on the first date!!!” completely ignore that someone else’s value system might prioritize sex very highly and that that would actually increase the value of the HVM. I think it is perfectly fine that we use generalizations, knowing there might be the odd exception. Your example is silly though, because obviousl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?I hope you’re joking, but in case you’re not: if you ask people what they would do in a scenario, you are not measuring observable, real world behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 02:39 PM |
| 33 | CMV: Referring to human beings as "high value" and "low value" is low value behaviorSo in my opinion, if you use terms like high and low value to describe people, rather than actions, beliefs, behaviors, and ideas A high value attorney is someone that is really good at doing attorney stuff. It is not about his value as a person, it is how valuable his ability is to someone wanting his services. HVM/LVM is no different. If there are two girls, one pretty and pleasant, the other ugly and annoying, the former is just much more valuable as a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?You should look into those studies if you think that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 02:06 PM |
| 8 | Tools for Vision and Mission?What is it you think vision and mission is important for? | /r/askMRP | 11/09/20 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?Most women get enough of alpha and beta traits from one partner to be satisfied. Again, based on self reporting and clearly in conflict with real world observations (look at common ideas on how passion can’t be expected to last, how husbands want more sex than their wives, prevalence of dead bedrooms, 7 year crisis, etc.). Studies also show that being “seen” and feeling heard l/cherished/valued greatly inspire sexual attraction in women. Again, based on self reporting, while real world observati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?Did you read the part where I said those high N count claims were ridiculous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?So you’re saying that mainstream advice is to not listen to your wife/girlfriend, make fun of her when she’s moody, and be cocky and dominating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 11:23 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?And apparently red pillers live somewhere where all young women have N counts in the triple digits That sounds like something the incels, MGTOWs and MRAs say. Only few of the res pill alphas are obsessed with that sort of stuff enough to believe something that ridiculous. Have you heard of the word counter-intuitive? Have you heard of the straw man fallacy? Large scale studies are often used because of counter-intuitive result that can be found. Large scale studies are mostly useless. The red pi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 11:19 AM |
| 0 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?I never heard the mainstream suggest that women are not turned on by beta traits like loyalty, respect, helpfulness, being supportive, providing, those are just traits they seek for LTRs, and if that is what you bring to the table they'll only have sex to lock you down - once that's achieved they will dead bedroom you because they really don't find it sexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 09:28 AM |
| 0 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?I take issue with TRP claiming that "lifting weights, being confident, and dressing well" is "red." It isn't. That advice existed and was followed by me long before I ever even heard of TRP or PPD. Yep. I was that way too, pre-RP. And it didn't work. Where TRP really differs is in dual sexual strategy - that women are turned on by alpha traits alone, but seek beta traits in long term partners. All the beta stuff (loyalty, respect, helpfulness, being supportive, providing) does not turn them on s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone in this subreddit even blue pilled?It takes a special kind of autist to think that a study refutes observable, real world behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/20 09:17 AM |
| 11 | The ONLY reason men don't date trans women, who fully transitioned, is because of stigma.Except for the associated traumas and issues, being infertile, presumably all sorts of weird hair growth when not freshly waxed/shaved, hormone therapy side effects, social and legal biases, I guess it is only stigma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/20 09:34 PM |
| 6 | Every attractive young woman will have an OnlyFans account by 2030 and be entirely undateableHmm, no. Between the social stigma and the limited earnings for the marginal girls especially as more do it, it will never become truly widespread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/20 11:48 AM |
| 6 | Wife Hates SexIt fucking baffles me how guys who clearly is failing abysmally at something will still give advice on it. This is like if I was giving advice on how to think about gender politics to impress antifa progressives. Scratch that, I could come up with something at least workable, I wouldn’t just burst out my beliefs. | /r/askMRP | 05/09/20 07:25 AM |
| 11 | Wife Hates SexExactly. New guys should focus on being RUCCE: Relaxed, Unaffected, Confident, Cocky, Egocentric. As opposed to being tense, caring about her moods, insecure, boring, and being servile. And read the sidebar ffs. | /r/askMRP | 05/09/20 07:17 AM |
| 8 | Wife Hates SexI had a not-RP-aware client who I was supposed to coach to fix his dead bedroom. At the first session he listened and pretended to understand, then eventually he began talking about how he felt sick to his stomach, that he wasn’t the sort of person I described that women wanted to fuck, blah blah. He he was a nice and helpful person and that worked for him. Never saw him again. For some guys, the truth hurts, so bad they recoil from it and would rather live in misery than face it and change. | /r/askMRP | 05/09/20 07:12 AM |
| 2 | Men aren't supposed to live like they do in today's societyJust go out and do shit. Nobody was ever respected for not doing anything, and not doing anything is the problem for men today, not that they won’t get respected if they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/20 06:00 PM |
| 1 | What is the difference between Alpha bucks and Beta bucks?Alpha bucks is the best a woman can get: all the alpha traits that make him attractive combined with the loyalty, wealth and family orientation of a good beta. Unfortunately a lot of non-RP alpha bucks think they’re now in a solid relationship and being good men they listen to and respect what their girl says - and that turns them into beta bucks. Maybe it takes until the children arrive, but it happens often, and after a few years of talking about it the trading her in for a younger model happe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/20 05:41 PM |
| 2 | The change in beauty standards amongst womenThe whole thicc thing is a low value male phenomen with them salivating over girls that seem more attainable. It has nothing to do with changing beauty standards. Beauty standards can and do change, but they haven’t gone into a preference for overweight or even normal weight girls, at all. The most popular look, and what most high value men go for, is still fit and slim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/20 11:03 AM |
| 2 | Lost my job today, still have shit together, how to frame this to LTR?We've made some good products and have some happy customers (it's advanced business software), but not a real success. But good enough that I think I can hand it off to someone else to run with it, and as we speak I'm in the final stage of landing a management job. | /r/askMRP | 01/09/20 02:24 PM |
| 7 | Lost my job today, still have shit together, how to frame this to LTR?So, this was pre-MRP, during the financial crisis I lost $20 million. Everything. 7 zeroes of net worth, gone. Kept a good salary 4 years after that as CEO in my old company, in effect working for the banks, then when everything was set up for the company to be sold, I lost that. 2 years later again, when I find MRP, I'm broke, all money is in her name for creditor protection reasons in case there's some fallout from my old obligations, I'm starting up a software company but so far not making an… | /r/askMRP | 01/09/20 07:48 AM |
| 2 | Do you want to be loved for your abilities, accomplishments, and achievements by someone you're dating?I think most women are materialistic (including myself) and will tolerate a relationship as long as she believes it is valuable and economically viable. Absolutely, and I think we should call it for what it is, like you describe it here. It isn't love. Women can and do love men for their frame and looks, but that often has very little to with what happens when they settle down with a long term partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/20 07:28 AM |
| 1 | Do you want to be loved for your abilities, accomplishments, and achievements by someone you're dating?Women love men for their intrinsic qualities (frame, game and looks) and not for their accomplishments. They are very much like men when it comes to that. The feeling women have for beta partners are based on the partner's accomplishments, but imo it is wrong to call that love. At least it is a very different feeling than what they feel for alphas, and not what men recognize as love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/20 07:25 AM |
| 3 | Selfless people who help others have more sex with more partnersIIRC, traits like peacock feathers which seem to hinder survival are mostly seen in environments that are hit with droughts or similar evolutionary bottlenecks where only the strongest survice. The idea is that in the good years, there is enough food for everyone, but abundance traits like peacock feathers that are very expensive to develop and maintain let the females identify the very strongest males, who have the genes to survive when the hard times hit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/20 07:16 AM |
| 2 | Selfless people who help others have more sex with more partnersThis is based on a statistical misunderstanding. Altruism correlates with many good traits, most notably social skills, socioeconomic status and success in general. That this correlates positively with frequency of sex too isn't surprising. If you divide the male population into two alphas and betas, I'd assume that for both groups you'd see a positive correlation between altruism and sex (though a stronger correlation for the betas since that's the bread and butter of their strategy). But I'd a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/20 07:10 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on Germaine Greer's argument that, physical violence is worse than girls being pressured into non-consensual sex, since if physical violence wasn't worse, girls would easily say no because they would be more scared of the non-consensual sex rather than the violence.I think the assumption is that the alternatives are "rape without violence" and "violence without rape". Which makes it a very controversial argument, since it flies in the face of the psychological trauma women suffer from rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/20 06:59 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on Germaine Greer's argument that, physical violence is worse than girls being pressured into non-consensual sex, since if physical violence wasn't worse, girls would easily say no because they would be more scared of the non-consensual sex rather than the violence.For all meaningful interpretations of "care", for example if given the choice between a beating or getting raped, or what leaves the most psychological trauma, I'm confident that women find rape much worse. That in the face of fear some freeze instinct kicks in for many women so they don't fight back doesn't prove anything, except that maybe there is an evolutionary advantage to it. Maybe that behavior co-evolved with cavemen killing everyone from opponent tribes they met except for women they s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/20 06:57 AM |
| 1 | "TRP and FDS" Concepts are not new. 1987 Eddie Murphy Raw; Marriage, Men and Women, Cheating. Watch the Clips - Lets discuss.Let me try to spell it out for you very clearly: the interesting part about RP is not what everyone else also says, the interesting parts about RP are those that are unique to RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/20 11:10 PM |
| 1 | "TRP and FDS" Concepts are not new. 1987 Eddie Murphy Raw; Marriage, Men and Women, Cheating. Watch the Clips - Lets discuss.It touches on some of the things that RP does, sure, but those insights aren’t unique to RP at all. And a lot of what he talks about is clearly about women being in relationships with betas (“what have you done for me lately” is from that one, right?). RP is about being alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/20 10:30 PM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on Germaine Greer's argument that, physical violence is worse than girls being pressured into non-consensual sex, since if physical violence wasn't worse, girls would easily say no because they would be more scared of the non-consensual sex rather than the violence.It’s a thoroughly stupid idea. How people respond under danger isn’t rational, it’s instincts (and for some their training). It doesn’t signify any sort of preference, it’s evolutionary brainwiring. If people fear they can’t escape or defend themselves, they often freeze or disassociate. It makes sense as an evolved defense mechanism I guess, it minimizes damage in a hopeless situation. Try listening to interviews with rape survivors like that Netflix Epstein documentary, it is very clear that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/20 10:15 PM |
| 1 | "TRP and FDS" Concepts are not new. 1987 Eddie Murphy Raw; Marriage, Men and Women, Cheating. Watch the Clips - Lets discuss.I’ve seen it a few times (I’m one of the people here older than the show). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/20 09:59 PM |
| 0 | "TRP and FDS" Concepts are not new. 1987 Eddie Murphy Raw; Marriage, Men and Women, Cheating. Watch the Clips - Lets discuss.I hear very little RP here. The main points of the red pill are that women seek beta in long term partners but are only turned on by alpha, that most of what women tell men are shit tests and you should make fun of them instead of listening to them, and other details on frame and game. And Eddie doesn’t talk about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/20 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Why People Are So Triggered by "Looks Matter"Depends on how ugly you're talking. A five man probably could work his way up to a 6. A sub-five man is going to need surgery. Lol no. Go out, look at real couples, even without RP knowledge those guys can make it. But if we are teaching the same two different guys the same PUA techniques, the uglier one will invariably have less success Of course. Looks matter. because there is a minimum threshold of attractiveness that a man must have in order to attract/keep a mate. As a rule, you have to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/20 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Usage of hints and signs is a signal of being immatureHumans aren't rational (or fair, or nice, or honest). Expecting them to be is immature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/20 02:07 PM |
| 2 | At a complete fucking loss.I've been red pill aware for a few years but haven't been an active reader for a while. I do believe red pill tenets to be a beacon of truth, though. This is going to sound crazy, but you could try implementing some of the red pill truths into your behavior. I know it is more fun just reading, just like watching MMA is more fun than going to the gym, doing the hard work and sweating, learning to fight, getting strong and fast and enduring. Nah, you know what, just keep blaming her instead of alp… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/08/20 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Why People Are So Triggered by "Looks Matter"Not sure that I said that they are the most important thing. I said "Essential" there is a difference there. You exactly wrote most important factor, I even quoted it. So who do you believe would have more mating success, an extremely unattractive person who is benevolent or an extremely attractive person who is a jerk? If you want to talk about this intelligently, you have be more nuanced than this. At the extreme end of unattractiveness obviously something else is going on. That can be repulsi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/20 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Why People Are So Triggered by "Looks Matter"But nothing seems to be more triggering to people than the idea that looks are the most important factor in gaining/maintaining a mate. I've also noticed that: This only seems to bother ppl when we are talking about females selecting males based on looks. There is a simple explanation: it isn’t true. Looks are not the most important factor for a man’s attractiveness. And people will correct you when you say something false - that’s not being triggered. This idea that looks are the most important… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/20 11:05 PM |
| 5 | Presenting goals in OYSAt the surface, this could be a covert contract "I want to be more fit and healthy... in order to get more sex". That is not a covert contract. A contract is when two people exchange agreed upon services - a covert one is when one party doesn’t know about it and won’t do their part in return. Getting fit is something that will actually make it easier getting sex. But once you complete these, you still haven't reached the intended outcome. Not that there is anything wrong with that because progre… | /r/askMRP | 27/08/20 08:33 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on Bella Thorne making $1 million USD on onlyfansAbout the same as I do when I hear that sports fans take long trips to see a team play and buy expensive memoribilia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 08:16 PM |
| 2 | A big problem with PPD is that they're too intelligentUse your words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 08:12 PM |
| -2 | A big problem with PPD is that they're too intelligentOf course not. Which group are you in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 07:57 PM |
| 8 | A big problem with PPD is that they're too intelligentAs hard as this is to say, I think most people on PPD are "good people" I don’t think they’re good people. There are a lot of bloopers pushing an agenda that hurt people - some of them know damn well they’re spreading lies, and the rest don’t know what they’re talking about, and when you don’t understand something you shouldn’t give advice that fuck people’s relationships up - especially in an environment where there clearly are more insightful people you could listen to, that makes it nearly as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Why is terminology which inherently appliest to M/M relations used for M/F behaviour.I don’t know. But alpha means something like lover archetype, and beta means provider archetype. It has nothing to do with social dominance hierarchies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Why is terminology which inherently appliest to M/M relations used for M/F behaviour.Being alpha is dominating other men. period.being beta doesn't actually even mean being submissive.Many behaviours that are called alpha such as ease of interacting with others are more properly beta behaviours since betas are what people would call negotiators among other mammals What TRP calls alpha and beta has nothing to do with the corresponding terms in biology. I have no idea why alpha and beta was chosen originally, but it is its own thing. Alpha means something more like lover traits an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Why is terminology which inherently appliest to M/M relations used for M/F behaviour.The TRP alpha has zero to do with what alpha is in biology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/20 11:51 AM |
| 17 | I've been married for one month. The sex stopped 2 weeks in. Most posts are from men who were married for years. How to address this critical Issue so early? (initially posted in MRP)So my question is, since our marriage is so new, is it reasonable to go to late stages of dread much sooner? I think having the Fuck me or Fuck you talk is something I'd like to do sooner rather than later Look, the "fuck me or of fuck off" isn't the final MRP play that solves the issues. Hardly anyone who actually manages to implement even a bit of MRP technique need to have that talk, because they are attractive enough to be fuckable. The idea that an attractive man will have a wife who won't … | /r/askMRP | 25/08/20 07:09 AM |
| 1 | General dating advice from ANYONE is rubbishThis came to me when I couldn’t understand why the advice the advice given in AskTRP comments was much more reasonable than the content of posts in TRP. Essentially, one is more specific because it answers specific questions. The dating advice on TRP is exactly what they give advice on in askTRP, so that makes zero sense. Maybe you are unable to take general advice, maybe you read the many posts on TRP that aren’t dating advice (there are a lot of posters just whining about women). TL;DR: Unless… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 06:20 PM |
| 3 | BondageLook at u/hornsofapathy’s posts | /r/MarriedRedPill | 24/08/20 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Setting the pace for sex, attachment theory, seduction and a potential LTRI can keep frame for months at a time if I want to... but YEARS? That's not something that anybody should reasonably expect from a man. Of course you can do that every day forever, frame becomes natural and a part of your identity. It isn’t work, at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Setting the pace for sex, attachment theory, seduction and a potential LTRCommunication doesn’t work. Becoming more attractive, more alpha, works. The sidebar on r/marriedredpill has everything you need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/20 01:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sugar dating is far better than Tinder for successful men if they want causal sexPUA is very effective. Especially the inner game and frame approach embraced by the red pill. But it won’t fix your issues or give you purpose in life of whatever, it is just how to turn women on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/20 08:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sugar dating is far better than Tinder for successful men if they want causal sexYou don’t understand PUA, or women, if you think that is a good technique. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/20 08:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sugar dating is far better than Tinder for successful men if they want causal sexYou have a dual sexual strategy, you want both alpha and beta, I know that. And money is beta. Nobody said you didn’t want beta. But it doesn’t work for turning women on, and that’s what PUAs want. They don’t want to be seen as someone a girl wants to be spoiled by for several dates before she might deign herself to have sex. If you’re looking for an LTR then beta plays a bigger role and that’s a different game, but it still can’t stand alone. We all know how it ends up for beta bucks, you need … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/20 07:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sugar dating is far better than Tinder for successful men if they want causal sexNo they don’t, PUAs know money doesn’t turn women on. I’ve even heard some recommend to hide it if you have money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/20 06:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: All men are misogynists. Read the full text before posting.Mother nature basically programmed men to hate women by designing men to want women more than the reverse. You really have to split the male population into alphas and non-alphas here. Women are easy and horny, betas just don’t get to see that side of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/20 07:10 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Redpill men would be less insecure about being "betabuxx" if they didn't view sex as something you must convince women to give up.If she wants you to wait for sex, she isn’t attracted to you. A girl who isn’t attracted to you isn’t worth the wait. It will the so-so sex initially, and long term it will be a relationship where there she shows very little love but lots of disrespect and scorn, and only rare, low quality duty sex if not a dead bedroom. That’s the problem - being a beta bux is a sad, frustrating experience in the long run, and if she shows signs of you being that you should nope out and work on your frame, game… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/20 07:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Dating advice should only come from well-adjusted, mentally healthy, secure, mature, and high-value peopleWhat OP is saying is more like "only good chefs should write economic textbooks". The traits he outlined have almost no correlation to successful dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 01:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Dating advice should only come from well-adjusted, mentally healthy, secure, mature, and high-value peopleThat being said, those who are well-adjusted, mentally healthy, secure, and mature because they've refined themselves to be a high-value person are mostly going to be the ones who are able to give advice on how to be attractive and valuable to others, and to themselves. No they aren’t. A lot of guys like that are only low-to-medium successful, because those things are not alpha traits. You want to take advice from people who has insight into what works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/20 11:32 AM |
| 1 | LMR: Men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to affectionTypical. Blame the woman for choosing the wrong dude instead of criticising the dude’s bad behaviour. Honestly, is there anything guys on this sub WON’T blame the woman for? At what point do you hold a man accountable? I am not blaming you, I am giving you advice. I am talking to you, he isn’t here. If he was, I wouldn’t be telling him “it’s her fault for leading you on”, I’d be telling him to learn to read a hard no. If you place yourself in isolated situations with an autistic man who could ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/20 09:56 AM |
| 1 | LMR: Men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to affectionFirst, don't date autistic men. Second, did you even read the LMR technique that OP wrote about: What you simply do is stop making out with her. It's like you have this idea the that's rapey because it's RP, while the truth is the opposite, and it is the non-RP, game-unaware men in your life that are clueless, boundary-overstepping assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/20 08:46 AM |
| 2 | LMR: Men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to affectionAs I said, if you’re going to pretend that women never play hard to get, there is no point in talking further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 06:06 PM |
| 2 | LMR: Men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to affectionNo, the concept of LMR does not mean RPers think she always wants sex. Rejection and boundaries are real, and overcoming LMR has absolutely nothing to do with pushing past those. LMR is when she is open to sex but pretends she isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 05:59 PM |
| 2 | LMR: Men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to affectionIf you're going to pretend LMR isn't something women do, there is no point talking to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 05:51 PM |
| 2 | LMR: Men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to affectionWe're talkinh about LMR, not boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Women have baby fever. Myth or reality?My wife had crazy baby fever for our 1st and 3rd child, it is definetely a real thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 04:43 PM |
| 2 | LMR: Men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to affectionWhy, as a woman, would I be with someone who played games like this? It seems like it would be obvious. It is the woman who is playing games, and as a man you have to play back. If you don’t put up LMR, good for you. Also, why would two grown, mature adults be in a relationship where sex drives were not at least somewhat equal, sex was not met with as much enthusiasm by each partner and this games had to be invented? In the real world, women are like that. Who the fuck knows why they do it? It’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 04:41 PM |
| 2 | A lot of confusion about what “works” is from simplistic assumptions. You need to think about it as multiple “limiting factors”A problem with all “pill” relationship advice is a result of the less general model. The hyper-focus on certain factors leads people to ignore other factors. When enough progress has been made in the “favorite” factors other factors become the currently limiting factors. This is how all “pill” philosophy criticism of other “pill” philosophies are correct. They are all right and all wrong at the same time. For example, there’s a grain of truth to these points: from BP: you have to have a good per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 04:35 PM |
| 1 | A lot of confusion about what “works” is from simplistic assumptions. You need to think about it as multiple “limiting factors”You said from RP: being physically attractive matters most As he pointed out, you’re wrong, RP says frame and game is more important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/20 04:31 PM |
| 4 | SO Threatened To Move OutCommon sense isn’t that common. And lots of men have made the mistake of thinking that their proficiency and hard work will keep their woman satisfied, just to end up in a dead bedroom while their wife gets railed by a minimum wage earning personal trainer who has never developed any deep skill, but he’s cocky and carefree and there’s a lot of alpha in that. | /r/askMRP | 18/08/20 10:23 PM |
| 2 | SO Threatened To Move OutI didn’t mean they want only beta. I meant that they among other things, they want beta and they will praise and pursue men for their beta qualities. The lesson to be learned from that is that we must not assume that anything women want in a man is alpha. There are lots of things they like in men that don’t make them wet. | /r/askMRP | 18/08/20 10:18 PM |
| 1 | SO Threatened To Move OutI think we agree on the substance, we just use different words for it. | /r/askMRP | 18/08/20 10:12 PM |
| 4 | SO Threatened To Move OutWomen want beta. Don’t confuse what they want and praise, with what is alpha and turns them on. | /r/askMRP | 18/08/20 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Own Your Shit Weekly - August 18, 2020I get what you mean, fuck I hated the duty sex back when. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 18/08/20 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Own Your Shit Weekly - August 18, 2020I feel I’m getting away sex for emotional validation. The thirst and anticipation is almost gone. But that has removed a lot of excitement and while I don’t think the focus/obsession was healthy, it’s different now. When you’re starving, nothing is more important than food. When you have easy access to food, most of us don’t think about much about it. It’s just there, we eat when we’re hungry or bored or see something delicious and that’s it. A few become fascinated by it, the foodies or chefs, … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 18/08/20 05:39 PM |
| 17 | SO Threatened To Move OutYeah, in the manosphere the beta hate gets ridiculous often, especially outside of MRP. The truth is, beta traits aren’t inherently bad - they’re traits women seek in LTR partners. Wealth is beta, fixing shit around the house is beta, being a good father is beta. It is the beta traits that come with a huge loss of alpha that you should avoid, like supplication. The real trick is balancing beta stuff like loyalty, love, being helpful and supportive with an alpha’s frame and egocentricity. There a… | /r/askMRP | 18/08/20 05:27 PM |
| 36 | SO Threatened To Move OutWomen have a dual sexual strategy. They want both alpha and beta. Your alpha sounds ok, but alpha won’t carry the load alone. The other guys here, they’re married, got kids, own the house together, they’re committed and gave her family, they’re sorted on the beta. You’re not, and her desire for more beta is going to go up. The MRP way is to give them both alpha and beta. The plate spinning way is to keep several girls in rotation, and when one begins seeking beta they just let her spin off. Or y… | /r/askMRP | 18/08/20 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Why PPD does not want/like incels, from someone who has been here since it startedThis isn’t about culling the herd. If you had a rocket technology forum you’d ban flat earthers who constantly derailed the discussion with their absurdities too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/20 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Thoughts On Actual Dating Advice?Holding frame and passing shit tests is by far the most important. I teach the acronym RUCCE for guys starting to become alpha: Relaxed, Unaffected, Confident, Cocky, Egocentric. Those are the basic traits you should signal. Game certainly also has a lot mileage in it. Kino, rapport breaking, disqualificafition, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/20 07:45 AM |
| 3 | Women doing porn is their own choice, not a part of a secret patriarchy plan by men.As to the having kids thing, it can go either way. No, sex work is a seriously bad idea if you want kids. How do you think it works out socially for kids when videos of their mom taking cumshots to the face gets passed around in their school? I would be fucking heartbroken if I had done something that affected my kids like that, bullying and ostracization is so hard on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/20 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Studies are for people with no practical real-world instincts, and there aren't as many of them as you thinkLooking at studies are stupid. If you want to learn MMA, you don’t study violence statistics or study how the majority of people fight. Most are untrained and clueless. Your “practical real-world instincts” are about as useful as general athleticism is in fighting. Sure, it is better than not having it, but it does not get close to what real instruction and sparring will give you. So if you want to learn to fight, you don’t look at what average people do, you go to an MMA gym and learn from peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/20 08:02 PM |
| 10 | advice for my brother who has LTR with 3 kids that is about to go sidewaysGive him Married Man Sex Life Primer. It’s got all the info you need and it is presented in a very approachable, unprovokative manner. If he reads and gets it, great. If he doesn’t, then he’s probably unreachable. | /r/askMRP | 11/08/20 09:48 PM |
| 1 | The reason women pre-select is because they know AWALT is trueI just want to propose a theory that the reason women pre-select is because they know women think alike and that what one women looks for in a mate is by in large what other women look for as well. This theory would support the claim of AWALT because women are blindly taking faith in other women's preferences and using them to form their own. Nothing indicates that preselection is conscious, or even rational. It's a bias, hardwired into humans, and it applies universally, for both genders and fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/20 07:46 AM |
| 3 | I am no longer interested in getting married and I need advice on what to do moving forward…I have been following both MRP subs since October on my main account, after going down the RP rabbit hole on YouTube (via Rich Cooper, Rollo, and a few others) over a year or so back now. It has been an eye-opening experience for sure; especially, from all of the sidebar material that I have gone through (NMMNG, Rational Male, Book of Pook, etc.) and all of the posts I have read. Oh you read a lot. And what did you do? How is your frame and game? Are you lifting? Playing dread? Did you up your S… | /r/askMRP | 09/08/20 05:53 AM |
| 1 | Prediction: dating former sex workers will become increasingly normalized in the coming yearsGetting paid to have sex is one thing, it points to some shaky priorities and morals, but maybe that can be overcome. But most sex workers are on camera, online. And there is no way I’d ever be serious with someone carrying that stigma around. You want your friends seeing your wife getting pounded and swallowing cum? You want your kids’ friends seeing it. Porn is social game over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/20 03:28 PM |
| 2 | The problem is not and was never your "niceness". It was/is every other unattractive trait you selectively choose to ignore so you can play the victimSort of, but the basic idea of listening to women and respecting what they say is a huge turn off for them. You can be fit and confident and still be a nice guy and struggle with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/20 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Living a bluepilled life of ignorance is better than living with the harsh reality of RedPill truthsWould a life of gleeful ignorance be preferable to a life of Red Pill truths? Ignorance isn't gleeful. It is confusion and rejection. The red pill is knowing what works, it is a strategy you can implement and make women like you, love you, submit to you. How can you think such powerful, life changing knowledge is bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/20 04:53 PM |
| 26 | Who propagates the idea that doing porn is empowering and will not negatively impact your future?A bunch of girls was told their videos would only be given to “collectors in Australia” or some BS, then the producers released the videos widely (as they had the rights to in the contract). Now the girls have had their lives ruined and they’re suing the producers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 02:16 PM |
| 12 | Who propagates the idea that doing porn is empowering and will not negatively impact your future?Those who do get discovered get majorly screwed over by it. It is a life changing event. Please don’t tell anyone it is safe, it is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 02:13 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill Men: What would it take...The terminology alone is based on study on wolves in captivity with shaky results that were later contested by the author itself. Even if the result would hold i don't think it's applicable to humans. What is considered alpha changes between cultures and age groups and i don't think people can be an alpha or a beta. The red pill alpha has absolutely nothing to do with wolves or the alpha characteristics from biology. They are entirely different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Alpha/Beta is Not the Best Way to Characterize Interactions Between the Sexes/GendersI didn't say they were wrong. I said you are wrong in applying terminology as it is used in other fields, when here it means something different. Alpha and beta here does mean what it does in biology. It's as simple as that. You just have to accept that. When speaking to people who don't know RP lingo, I call alpha lover or player and beta provider. Think of them like that and you're close to the mark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Alpha/Beta is Not the Best Way to Characterize Interactions Between the Sexes/GendersI used terminology I learned in a post secondary course A course covering something else. The terminology means something entirely different. Imagine I walked into one of your classes, didn’t bother to find out what psychology was about, I just heard a few things here and there but completely misunderstood it because I thought the words meant something else, and then I began saying psychology was wrong because my flawed understanding of it made no sense. What would you say? You’re doing the exac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Alpha/Beta is Not the Best Way to Characterize Interactions Between the Sexes/GendersYou don’t even know what the basic terms mean, so no, you are not fit to criticize it. So they’re not teaching basic critical thinking anymore? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Alpha/Beta is Not the Best Way to Characterize Interactions Between the Sexes/GendersI feel like the things I described are evolutionary pressures. Monogamy could perhaps be a human response to the increasing population size and advent of technology. Or, perhaps, it’s a response to an increase in intelligence that warrants humans to desire more connection than just the carnal. That is not how evolutionary pressure works, at all. I assume you are not in STEM? If TRP’s uses of the terms Alpha/Beta do not directly correlate with the biological terms, than I feel that is misleading … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 12:15 PM |
| 2 | What are your biggest fears and anxieties about the opposite sex in LTR or Marriage?I was afraid of sexlessness and divorce, so I became red pilled and don’t have to worry about that any longer, so that makes sense. And bloopers are afraid of standing up for themselves and disrespecting women, so they are blue pilled. Is that how you see it working? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 08:16 AM |
| 1 | Alpha/Beta is Not the Best Way to Characterize Interactions Between the Sexes/GendersAre you arguing that instinctual behavior change without evolutionary pressure? How do you figure that? You also seem to be under the misconception that the red pill alpha/beta are like the biology terms. They are not. Alpha is not aggression and pack leadership, it is looks, frame and game, and mainly the two latter. Beta is provider traits, like wealth, loyalty, stability. Betas are not below alphas in the social hierarchy, more often they are above them. And women have a dual sexual strategy.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/20 08:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women do not truly loveLol, how old are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/20 11:45 AM |
| 9 | What's the worst take you've seen from each side/pill/strategy, including your own?Ironic that being able to pass shit tests is the most fundamental skill for having good romantic relations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/20 10:21 AM |
| 1 | What are your proposed solutions to make dating fair?Men should just learn about the red pill and alpha up. They should stop listening to women and their drivel about how they want good men who listen to their feelings and respect them. That would fix most of the problems. The main problem is that men listen to women and think they want betas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/20 06:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women do not truly loveWomen love alphas. But for some reason, women and relationships are mostly looked at through the lens of a beta. There is little love there, sure. I had a muslim client who was in an arranged marriage. He felt his situation was very unique, how she hadn’t picked him for love, but their parents had put them together because he was a good provider. But everything he said about their relationship was exactly like any other beta man describes. I see it as the practice of arranged marriages have func… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/20 06:39 AM |
| 0 | What about all those average guys who neither fit in AF or BB?As I recall your shit was pretty shitty. You shouldn’t trust the bloopers. Being alpha doesn’t mean you don’t have disagreements or fights. Having a fight doesn’t mean a marriage is over, or bad. In fact when the love and attraction is there, you find eachother easily after conflict - love makes blind. All being alpha does is make women attracted to you. It turns them on, it makes them love you. Just because she’s all smiles and french kisses and sucks dick on command, that doesn’t mean she has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/20 06:27 AM |
| 4 | What about all those average guys who neither fit in AF or BB?No it doesn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 11:32 PM |
| 19 | What about all those average guys who neither fit in AF or BB?Once it comes to settling down, each woman requires one man. The median woman will settle for the median man. BBs don’t have to be rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 10:10 PM |
| 1 | A lot of Redpill tactics seem counterproductive when researched.You clearly don't know how relationships work. Most men tried choreplay, and it doesn't have any effect. This is just like your other idea of threatening divorce to fix a dead bedroom, you just make shit up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 11:30 AM |
| 1 | If a woman's value decreases with age and n count, how is hypergamy possible.You have to understand that they have a dual sexual strategy. They want both alpha and beta, and not necessarily from a single man. And most men drop their alpha significantly through an LTR, much faster than their girl loses SMV from age. That makes cheating with an alpha, finding an older man with higher beta, or a man with both alpha and beta, good options through the lens of hypergamy. For a man with frame who keeps it through the LTR, you are right it isn’t relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 08:00 AM |
| 1 | How much your parents have influenced your current views?Nothing. My parents are clueless, they think it is all about beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 07:53 AM |
| 1 | A lot of Redpill tactics seem counterproductive when researched.not an autist trying to figure out the correct degree of "comfort" to administer in order to get his wife's legs to spring open like a clamshell. Oh, now they’re all autists? You don’t think we’re dealing with a varied group of people? I’ve dealt with these men, the majority of them are men who want the best for their family and who are very sad that their wives treat them so poorly and that their kids will have to go through a divorce. Do you really think your hatred is well placed? And you thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 07:41 AM |
| 5 | Do I give my wife the emotional connection she is asking forWhat she says is a shit test - it is flat out a deception to see if you’re so weak you’ll do what she asks instead of doing what you want. Stop. Listening. To. Your. Wife. | /r/askMRP | 28/07/20 06:50 PM |
| 0 | A lot of Redpill tactics seem counterproductive when researched.Sure I do. I've been hanging around these forums for a few years. Yet you don’t know the most basic things - it really doesn’t seem likely. Are you really going to argue that 'Dread Game' isn't about making your wife or girlfriend afraid that you'll leave her for another woman if she doesn't put out? Isn't that what the 'dread' is all about -- dread of abandonment? Of course it isn’t, that doesn’t work. Husbands in dead bedrooms can threaten divorce, even go through with filing, and it still doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/20 06:45 PM |
| 2 | A lot of Redpill tactics seem counterproductive when researched.You should read it because you don't understand what the red pill says about sexual strategy. Or you could listen to those of us who do understand it and explain it to you. If you don't want to educate yourself you should stop trying to tell everyone else what the red pill is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/20 11:51 AM |
| 2 | A lot of Redpill tactics seem counterproductive when researched.We’ve been through this before and established beyond doubt that you haven’t read anything yet but for whatever reason you keep on pretending that you know what the red pill is about. This is like the most basic part of the red pill, that women have a dual sexual strategy. For someone who claims to have an IQ of 148, you seem to have difficulty grasping even the simplest things. How about you read Married Man Sex Life Primer by Athol Kay? It is the first book on the MRP sidebar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/20 06:58 AM |
| 3 | A lot of Redpill tactics seem counterproductive when researched.I do agree that 'just' attachment isn't enough - if you're a loser that plays video games all day, it doesn't matter how well you communicate, you're just not going to be able to attract anyone because you being nothing to the table. I'm not disputing that. Also if you’re a hard working, high earning, family oriented man. If you got that and also know how to give comfort, you’re ticking all the beta boxes and you can get a girlfriend, get married. But the relationship won’t be good unless he als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/20 12:08 AM |
| 7 | I [33M] am 8 months into my MAP and I’m losing attraction & interest for my SO [28F] — looking for some outside opinions.I wrote about when to next your wife once https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/37l2q0/when_to_next_your_wife/ Sounds like all the boxes are checked, plus no kids, no ring. | /r/askMRP | 27/07/20 09:50 PM |
| 3 | I [33M] am 8 months into my MAP and I’m losing attraction & interest for my SO [28F] — looking for some outside opinions.If that sounds heartless, what do you think she'd do to you if Chris Helmsworth came knocking Pretty sure Helmsworth is a beta though. | /r/askMRP | 27/07/20 09:47 PM |
| 3 | A lot of Redpill tactics seem counterproductive when researched.Attachment styles are relevant for the beta side of a relationship but are largely irrelevant for the alpha side. An LTR will work much better if you take care of both the alpha and beta, it is basic red pill knowledge that women have a dual sexual strategy - they want both. You’re supposed to pass both comfort and shit tests. But if you think a relationship will be good if you just handle attachment well, you’re very wrong. That’s what every beta bux thinks. You should bring plenty of alpha, so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/20 05:35 PM |
| 2 | What makes TRP men think ‘traditional’ women would even give them a chance?What do you mean by “TRP men”? The incels and MRAs who whine about the SMP, or the men who actually follow the red pill advice and lift, dress well, hold frame, has strong game, and generally focus on self improvement? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/20 01:03 PM |
| 0 | Is Red Pill Women still relevant in 2020?RPW is like good fitness and dieting advice, while FDS is like the fat acceptance movement. If you’re going by what is popular, sure being overweight looks like a winner. If you want a good life, exercise and eat healthy in moderate amounts. Same with RPW vs FDS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/20 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Why are you guys so cynical?The cynical ones are the losers who don’t follow the red pill advice. The guys who lift, alpha up and learn game, the girls who put effort into their looks and being feminine, they have a great time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/20 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel lied to ?I was lied to by my wife. I listened to her and trusted her when she said she wanted more comfort, that I did stuff around the house and with the kids, and it resulted in a dead bedroom, years of bad marriage, almost divorce. Finally found MRP, implemented it (I was already fit and well dressed, it was just pretty much just passing shit tests, not listening to her, being dominant and egocentric) and it turned everything around completely. Now she’s loving, submissive and kinky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/20 09:19 AM |
| 3 | Men are vastly overestimating the effect that makeup has on women and men's attraction to themMakeup improves your looks greatly. Not only does it look good, it shows you care about looking good. Saying anything else is just hamstering. If you don’t want to put in the effort, or just a little, that’s your choice, but you’re diminishing your potential. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/20 09:14 AM |
| 1 | CMV: MGTOW has surpassed the TRP for utility for beta malesWelll, some make more than others, and men who make more have better beta, ie. are more sought after as LTR partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/20 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Is betabuxxing ok as long as the woman is much younger than the man?You can’t tell if he is alpha or not. If he has frame, he’s alpha and not a BB. You get treated like a BB because you lack alpha, not because you have money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/20 10:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: MGTOW has surpassed the TRP for utility for beta malesBeta traits are the provider traits. Income is certainly one of them. Remember that women have a dual sexual strategy - they seek beta traits in partners. Beta doesn't mean weak or loser. Income is a good beta trait, but beta none the less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/20 06:22 AM |
| 2 | CMV: MGTOW has surpassed the TRP for utility for beta malesMost beta males can improve income/status/physique to SOME degree but mostly won't be in the top 10%. Income and status are beta traits. Looks are say 20% of alpha, it is much more important to have strong frame and game. So you’re looking at this through an entirely wrong lens. From there, maybe MGTOW looks better. But it is misguided. Income and status are hard. Looks has some low hanging fruit like lifting, but after that you quickly max out. So thinking those are what matters does make it al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on Charisma on Command? Do you think he is/was red-pilled?She knows and used to read MRP (or at least what I wrote), but she hasn’t mentioned anything about it in say 2 years so I think she stopped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on Charisma on Command? Do you think he is/was red-pilled?No, not at all. It’s good stuff in general, but it lacks the ooomph of red pill game. So if you’re looking for dating or relationship advice, you won’t find much value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Given everything that was discussed here in PPD or TRP subs, would you switch your gender if there was a magic button?TRP doesn’t in any way or form claim that women have it easier than alphas. Chasing alphas that won’t commit, then settling with a beta that you don’t like, what is so great about that? No way I’d trade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Why are PUAS/Red Pillers always selling scam items?I sell red pill coaching sessions, at normal coaching rates, and it is criminally underpriced compared to what people get out of it. If I was famous and could charge 1k/hour I would, and I’d have no reservations about it. The idea that “the info is available online so coaching is useless” is ridiculous. For many, it is a difficult, challenging process, and having someone to guide and support them makes all the difference. My clients have often spent months reading red pill books and trying to im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Men don't seem to realize how much leverage they have over their wives in some cases -- for instance, say your wife is a SAHM who really loves being with the kids and doesn't have the education or job skills to support herself independently in the style to which she has become accustomed. Add in the UMC shame over being divorced -- let alone divorced by one's husband! -- and the man probably has quite a bit of leverage here No, women rarely react when betas threaten with divorce, or even when th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 06:42 PM |
| 1 | The beta, turned alpha, does not become attractive to the women who were exposed to him as a beta.Being alpha has absolutely nothing with wolves, being a leader, social caste or whatever it is you’re talking about. You should read up on the terminology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 05:03 PM |
| 2 | The beta, turned alpha, does not become attractive to the women who were exposed to him as a beta.They got angry in fact, especially when they saw other women's reactions to me. Yep they do that. It is a test to see if your change has substance to it. Hold frame through it, they’ll accept you as alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?You are incredibly misguided. I tell you I’ve coached clients and seen them go from dead bedrooms to having loving, submissive wives, and you still continue with your fabulations? Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?My vague recollection is that he expressed incredulity that guys there seemed to think that MRP was any kind of formula for success. So he was clueless. You have to remember, most of us there saw it work in our lives. We talked to each other, saw the same shit play out. I’ve seen it work for my clients. Then some clueless guy comes in and tries to tell us it doesn’t work. It’s like someone showing up to an MMA gym and telling them they should be doing aikido. It’s bullshit. Your idea of “pick up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 03:55 PM |
| 2 | MGTOW, TRP etc. all bitch about Hypergamy, yet men are just as hypergamous...It is a common mistake to not realize the value women see in alphas. They want that much more than beta traits like wealth and loyalty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 01:58 PM |
| 2 | The beta, turned alpha, does not become attractive to the women who were exposed to him as a beta.You keep on stating these things as facts yet refuse to answer where you get your ideas. I've seen men successfully alpha up and reap the rewards fully. Whatever problems there could be with a woman accepting a man changing, it is not the norm. And now you begin claiming that womens' SMV doesn't decrease with age which is obviously counterfactual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 01:55 PM |
| 1 | The beta, turned alpha, does not become attractive to the women who were exposed to him as a beta.And where do you get this idea? You have to remember, married women rarely bang true Chads - guys like that go for younger women, a woman in her 30s doesn't have the SMV to get his attention. A married man alphaing up doesn't have that intense competition, and he has the advantage of also coming with lots of beta (unlike her fling which is unlikely to give comfort and stability). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 01:24 PM |
| 1 | The beta, turned alpha, does not become attractive to the women who were exposed to him as a beta.That makes zero sense. Being a beta bux for years in a dead bedroom, you can't display lack of alpha better than that. And they can recover from it. I very much doubt that betas who haven't committed couldn't recover. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:52 PM |
| 0 | MGTOW, TRP etc. all bitch about Hypergamy, yet men are just as hypergamous...The point is that men living in a disney fairytale idea of romance should realize that it doesn't work that way - women go for the best available to them and men need to step up so they can compete. It's not a diss on women, it's a wake up call for lazy, weak men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?What, have you never heard the howls of outrage over the (mistaken) notion that your wife married you, not because she was attracted to you, but in a cold and calculating maneuver to use you for provisioning? Yes, we call them victim pukes. We shit on guys who blame their wives for their situation and make it very clear it is their beta behavior that is the cause of their problems, and that they can take ownership of GTFO. The mods usually allow 1 victim puke, and after that you get banned for i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:35 PM |
| 13 | The beta, turned alpha, does not become attractive to the women who were exposed to him as a beta.No, women respond to your signals. I've seen lots of examples of married betas turning alpha and their wives become loving, submissive and kinky. They do go through a period of extreme shit testing first though. Where did you get the idea that women don't respond to alpha if they've seen your beta side? Is it personal experience, or just armchair philosophy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:20 PM |
| 3 | Let’s be stupidly optimistic and actually ATTEMPT to solve some sex vs sex issues, here and nowThe red pill already solved this. Plate spinning if you just want sex and variety, MRP if you want an LTR. What is it you find lacking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 06:41 AM |
| 2 | Why doesn't RP talk about gammas? Why is it all alpha and beta?Women have a dual sexual strategy, they seek alpha and beta traits in their partners. They don’t seek “gamma traits”. Alphas are just men able to get women through alpha traits, while betas are men who mainly rely on beta traits to get women. Being a gamma or an omega is just being so low quality you can’t display any traits women want. There is no “gamma strategy”. It’s like in MMA, you talk about strikers and grapplers, but not couch potatoes. Gammas should certainly not become betas. I can se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 06:35 AM |
| 3 | What does everyone here think of the ‘godfathers’ of redpill (Chateau Heartiste, Rollo Tomassi, Roosh v) now?Red pill men are still just people. People can know about sexual strategy and lose motivation for lifting, find other interests, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?What? They don't hold to AF/BB theory there? I thought that was pretty standard RP theory. The point of AF/BB isn’t that “women are evil” or whatever your interpretation of it is. The point is that you have to bring alpha. You would know this if you had actually spent time reading there. The mods there do like to dick-swing and hand out bans, though. I remember when I first discovered RP and told my man about it ... he went on there and tried to give some well-meaning advice. They banned him, of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?I can understand why a man would have difficulty believing it, though, as it puts the onus for the wife's lack of attraction in later life on her husband, and we can't have that, can we? Nope, those women must be eeee-vul. Saying anything like that will get you a temp ban on MRP, so stop claiming you’ve been reading on there when you clearly haven’t. On MRP, whatever issues a man has are on him, and on him to fix. At this point, I’m assuming you remember your IQ score and assess the emotional st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?I.Q. of 148, and no that was not measured by an Internet test. Reading comprehension is fine, thanks. How and where did you get it measured? In my fairly large sample size of dozens, perhaps a hundred or more couples I've known over my long life, I cannot think of one case in which the wife wasn't passionately in love with her partner when she married him. The passion dies later, after picking up the man's dirty socks for the thousandth time. It’s very interesting that someone with such a high I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Sex strategy for young average menSo you know about the red pill, it’s advice on lifting, frame and game, and yet you think what you’re suggesting here is a better strategy? Seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Oh, I've read it! At least enough to see what is going on there. I doubt you've read much, but if you really have then you have very low reading comprehension. You've misstated how MRP sees even the most basic things, so I really wouldn't go around claiming you know what it is about. I think men's idea of 'beta' is one that protects their egos. For instance, "AF/BB" is a cope that allows failed husbands to think that their wives never really loved them, and were just using them for resources. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Attachment Theory explains women’s dating/sex choices much betterAnxious people react more strongly to withdrawing affection and it can be used to manipulate them more easily than secure people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Attachment Theory explains women’s dating/sex choices much betterWhat? you believe only betas have Attachment Styles? the Alpha side is free of them? I'm confused in your meaning here. No, not at all. First off, having beta traits doesn’t make you beta. What I mean is a woman’s attachment style is largely irrelevant to how she responds to alpha traits by being attracted to the man displaying them. Her attachment style is more relevant to her need for comfort. I was talking about the hot n cold behaviour that Anxious-Avoidants exhibit are like the push/pull te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Attachment Theory explains women’s dating/sex choices much betterBut don’t you think Attachment Styles describe that attraction too? Attraction to behaviours at least. No, not at all. Attachment styles relate more to beta traits and the response to them. I’ve not really seen anything in the literature either. Mikulincer and Shaver has some mentions on how anxious people can be manipulated sexually, but that isn’t attraction in my book. The standard red pill is by far the most important. I use attachment theory mainly to understand where my client will struggl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?I’m flaired and wrote several of the top posts on MRP, so yeah I read it. But it is clear you haven’t. You don’t ever understand what we mean by beta, so please don’t pretend you have any idea about what the subreddit is about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Verified results? You mean the way most of the MRPers are cheating on their wives and headed for divorce? Lol, why are you making stuff up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Attachment Theory explains women’s dating/sex choices much betterI had a client who was obviously dismissive-avoidant but when it came to his wife he was anxious-preoccupied. My hypothesis is he stayed for the kids and she wittled down his self esteem and made him emotionally dependant on her. Unfortunately he didn’t want to continue so I don’t know what happened to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 11:22 AM |
| 4 | Attachment Theory explains women’s dating/sex choices much betterAttachment theory is easily the most well documented non-pathological field in psychology. Are you confusing it with attachment parenting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Attachment Theory explains women’s dating/sex choices much betterIt seems like Red Pill assumes every woman essentially have the same Attachment Style, with some more successful at fighting against it than others. I find the red pill accurately describes attraction and that is the fundemental aspect. But attachment theory is useful too, especially if you’re in an LTR with someone who isn’t secure. It’s mainly how they respond to conflict and withdrawing affection, and most guys adapt fine to the differences without needing a theoretical insight. Fearful-avoid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 11:05 AM |
| 0 | Attachment Theory explains women’s dating/sex choices much betterAttachment theory is great, very predictive. I don’t think it describes anything “more accurately” than the red pill, both are accurate but describe different aspects of relationships. The first thing I do with all clients I coach is have them do a test for their and their SO’s attachment style. The majority of my clients are anxious-preoccupied. I suspect fearful-avoidants and dismissive-avoidants often end their relationships instead of seeking advice from someone like me, so they show up less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Let’s stick to the red pill terminology and the verified results behind it, instead of you making something up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 06:37 AM |
| 1 | What type of negging works best for you/on you?Yes, it is such a shame the only options are slutty and plain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 06:48 PM |
| 1 | What type of negging works best for you/on you?That would be an added bonus if it had a polarizing effect, chasing off experienced women but working on he rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 06:02 PM |
| 1 | What type of negging works best for you/on you?Negging should be very light and subtle and have full deniability. “I like you’re not so shallow like those girls who only care about their looks” for example. Take the stereotypical image of a highschool airhead who thinks life is a popularity contest and all about fitting in and looking good and partying, praising her for being the opposite of that is a great neg, like practical, not afraid to stand out, sensible, homely, careful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 05:51 PM |
| 0 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Women have a dual sexual strategy, seeking both alpha and beta traits. Normally we say that they are only attracted to alpha traits, which is what turns them on. They seek beta traits too (like wealth, loyalty, stability) in long term partners, but it doesn’t really turn them on. If you want to say women are attracted to beta depends on how you define attraction, but in RP we wouldn’t call someone with strong beta traits attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Money and status are beta traits, so if that is what your ex relied on I doubt he was red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?I’m guessing you traded a lazy beta for a helpful beta. Good for you. Here’s a story from one of my clients who stopped complying and had sex after a 4 year long dead bedroom: https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/hmqmhz/own_your_shit_weekly_july_07_2020/fx6w9pw/ There is a reason why the red pill advice is not to comply. We’re not playing beta game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?I don’t know, but here is an example from one of my clients of how much compliance tests can matter https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/hmqmhz/own_your_shit_weekly_july_07_2020/fx6w9pw/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?If a man appreciates and treats a submissive woman well, is loyal, respects her feelings and meets her emotional needs, then I can see that working. A man who wants a good, stable, easy relationship should both give alpha (to generate attraction and love) and beta (to provide comfort). I don’t think we disagree on what a good relationship is. But alphas can get away with a lot of shit and do very, very little, even be abusive, and still be loved. But there’ll be a lot of fighting and insecurity … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Context matters. A girl who does a lot for you and only asks for favors when she needs help, that’s very different from a someone regularly throwing compliance tests without doing much in return (and the latter seems way more common than the first). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?If she is non-cooperative, doing stuff in and around the house, making money, doing stuff with the kids. If the relationship is good, there are a ton of activities that are fun for both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?I don’t know any women who would sign up for a one sided relationship. When women are with alphas they drop the equality expectations. Heck, they’ll even stay through abuse. I feel like you’re mixing a lot of stuff together. What men and women are attracted to is one thing. Signalling commitment and reciprocity another. Fairness, being nice and respectful, a third thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?No, men are attracted to submissiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Sure, if you’re alpha you have a lot of leeway, and you need to give comfort in an LTR. Many also find it natural to reciprocate - there’s a big difference between doing something for a submissive girl and doing something for a bitching harpy in the hopes she’ll become nice. But it is still low alpha, and there are better ways to give comfort, so I wouldn’t recommend doing it. But there are lots of things I wouldn’t recommend that you can easily get away with as long as you are alpha enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 11:36 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?42M. There is no way I’d do it, and she wouldn’t ask me something like that. It happens a lot to the clients I coach. It’s a compliance shit test and you pass it by not doing it. Respond with a no, a look that says the request is weird or silly, ignore it, make fun of it “aww, your legs don’t work?”, or make a bigger counterrequest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 08:50 AM |
| 5 | Is it even worth reading the advice about how to get laid from r/AskMen and similar subreddits?No, they’re chumps with zero insight. I’m early 40s and lots of married men in my social circle think they have good insight into relationship dynamics, even though their sex lives are between dead bedroom and super boring. In my book, if you have to do more than unzip to get a blowjob, there are issues with lack of attraction, and if that’s not where you’re at then you have no business giving anyone advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 08:42 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that treating humans like individuals might be the solution?How many times have we seen men lament on this sub that women only want tall, insanely ripped men who are also rich CEOs? That is incel talk, not red pill. An ordinary looking guy who put the effort into lifting and most importantly has strong frame, he can have very high alpha and easily outcompete those around him and have his pick of girls. The girls who only go for rich male models are so rare they’re not even worth considering. maybe everyone has individual tastes, right? Dual sexual strate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Why do you still seek out LTRs?Once you alpha up, living with women is way, way more easy and enjoyable. What is it you think is difficult when your SO is loving and submissive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/20 04:00 PM |
| 3 | What qualifies a woman to be a HVF?Fit and slim, meticulous about her looks. If she isn’t that when she’s young she’s not going to age well, it takes effort to stay attractive. Smart, good work ethic, preferably both academic and athletic results. It signals good genes, values and parenting skills. Not crazy, not slutty, etc., the usual red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/20 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?Most people are able to pair bond. You are not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?If the government said black people weren’t persons, would you still think of black people as persons? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?Well, many people tend to fall in love based on their good qualities and ignore the red flags. From his description of her and their anal sessions I can’t blame him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?No, but the government certainly doesn’t get to define my personal relations. Especially when the reason we’re not legally married is greedy tax regulations that would allow the government to bankrupt my wife too if I went bankrupt. That’s not a risk I’m willing to place on my family. What is it you think makes the difference with a marriage license from the government? It doesn’t make a difference to me emotionally. It doesn’t make a difference in terms of custody. Financially I’d be more prote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 01:41 PM |
| 2 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?Of course I don’t define alpha as being a manipulative jerk, but maybe you see alpha traits that way. But the simple truth is that being alpha is what gets you love and willingness to commit from a woman. It has zero to do with respecting her or whatever it is you are suggesting. But personally and morally, I agree with you. I am committed family man myself. I just have no illusions that my commitment and respect is why my wife loves me. It’s being alpha that does the heavy lifting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 01:20 PM |
| 0 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?I don’t buy into the premise that the government gets to define that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 01:05 PM |
| 0 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?The post where she wrote that she loved me and wanted to make me the happiest man on earth? That’s what you took away from it? She was pregnant and I didn’t want to have the child, yeah we had some nasty arguments over that, she was scared I’d leave, and she sought guidance on RPW. Why would you think she’s “miserable and probably wants to kill herself” over two years after the conflict when I didn’t leave? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?What you’re missing there is what makes both parties do that? For a woman, if her man isn’t alpha, she won’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 12:06 PM |
| -1 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?The guy was spinning plates, fell in love with one, let her move in, figured out that came with too much baggage. The story is so fucking normal. Except, yes, for all the sex he gets compared to normal men, and that he has the frame and options to fix his situation. Alphas are still humans, with emotions much like other men, and they can make bad decisions. Being attractive and able to make women love you and submit to you doesn’t make you perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 12:02 PM |
| 0 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (12 July 2020)Making $8,500 from prostitution doesn’t seem like easy mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 09:41 AM |
| -1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (12 July 2020)Yeah, all the incel and MRA whiners don’t get this. Most women get to first go through a lot of heartbreak trying and failing to hook an alpha, then settling down with a beta that may initially feel comforting and stable but that they end up despising. I will never understand how they can hear how a beta bux is treated and then think that his wife isn’t hating her life too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 09:37 AM |
| -3 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?Since monogamous marriages/relationships always devolve into unhappy sexless conditions, wouldn't it be more effective to lose the stress of having a partner who's always going to be a volatility factor and raise the child yourself instead? No, LTRs doesn't always devolve into unhappy sexless conditions. I've been with my wife for 17 years, 3 children, we have lots of sex. I can't imagine unzipping and her not taking my dick in her mouth. You can go on r/marriedredpill and look at the rich sex l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 08:50 AM |
| 2 | What is it about a man that makes a woman want to sleep with him in such a short period of time?Why would you ask women for advice on something like this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Own Your Shit Weekly - July 07, 2020It's an acronym I made for what traits they should display: Relaxed, unaffected, confident, cocky, egocentric. I found that many men after the initial MRP readings either didn't have a clear idea of how an alpha behaved, or they were very tense and/or confrontational, or thought it was mainly about being funny. So I made RUCCE to give some basic and concise behaviors to focus on initially. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 12/07/20 02:20 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about the rising popularity of androgynous men? Why do many men believe that masculinity will make them more attractive?When it comes do dating advice, how is it relevant what underage girls like? They’re not the target group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 07:13 AM |
| 12 | Pregnant women are more likely to die from murder by partner than anything else.Do men always keep it in their minds that they can one day pick up and go from a relationship? Is that why they resort to killing a person that they were suppose to protect and love when they are pregnant? The sources you cited put the frequency and around 1 per 10,000 and you just jump to “all men” claims? Imagine someone said “did you know black people commit more violent crime than other ethnicities, do black people always think they can use violence to get what they want?” You would call the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/20 03:56 PM |
| 1 | exactly who are men here waiting for...Imagine having a political opinion without being engaged in politics!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Do women lie more than men?The main thing in a relationship is that men will be honest about what they want from her to be happy, while women ask for more beta and less beta which will make her lose attraction to him. That’s the big one and men should learn not to listen to their girlfriends/wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 05:19 AM |
| 1 | The single mom contradictionBecause women too should take responsibility for their actions. A lot of single moms wouldn’t be single moms if they didn’t think the father would be on the hook to support her. But mostly it is just fair. Just like women have the right to choose, so should men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 05:15 AM |
| 0 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.No, I said “of course”. Having both high alpha along with high beta like being rich is optimal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 06:34 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.All the things we CAN see (which is all we have to judge) point to Brad Pitt having lots of alpha traits. No, when a guy comes out and says he wasn’t getting enough sex, that is a very clear sign he is low alpha. The idea that rich, famous, attractive men are automatically alpha is just plain wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 06:16 PM |
| 2 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Yes, I said that two posts back and you argued against it... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 06:13 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.A man with both high alpha and beta don't get treated like a beta bux. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 05:42 PM |
| 2 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Of course 2 men with high alpha and one them also with high beta, the one with both will do better. Women have a dual sexual strategy, they want both alpha and beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Need genuine advice - getting shutdown on other subsJust read the sidebar material, implement it, use the OYS thread. Once you’ve alphaed up, she’ll be loving, submissive and kinky. | /r/askMRP | 09/07/20 05:23 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.obviously we don't know their details of said relationship. But Brad Pitt was considered the sexiest man alive, adored by millions. And he was rich. The point I was making is it CAN happen. You can easily be considered sexy by others, and be rich - but if you don’t act alpha at home, your wife won’t find you attractive. Being attractive is almost entirely about frame and game, and if he didn’t have that, that would explain what happened. The idea that he was totally alpha and she stopped wanting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 05:20 PM |
| 3 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.It is the man’s personality. In my experience, that is not the case, at all. I coach married men, and often they will have given their wives a lot of attention and followed her requests without it getting them much if any sex. Among other things I tell them to stop listening to her and to withdraw attention and affection if she isn’t being enjoyable company, and they end up having tons of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 05:16 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Homeless is stretching it, it conjures up images of someone unkept, unhygienic and malnutrioned and that can of course kill your SMV. I coach mainly married men on how to improve their marriages, and trust me, if your plan is to rely on your income, you’re going to be disappointed. It doesn’t work, it doesn’t make you attractive, all it does is make you a better beta bux. You have to bring alpha if you want a good relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 05:11 PM |
| 0 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Jennifer Anniston wasn't even sexing up Brad Pitt enough and it contributed to their divorce. Women get complacent and bored sometimes even if the guy is attractive. It really doesn’t work that way. Physical looks aren’t that important, and while a man like Brad Pitt might seem attractive, if he doesn’t behave like an alpha of course he can’t turn her on. I was merely pointing out that yes it is effective as long as he maintains the power, but once the power transfers to her (legal system, court… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 05:04 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Sure, but alpha is by far more important. Wealth is a beta trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:58 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Lol not at all, lots of rich men get dead bedroomed while old alphas get easy pussy regardless of income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:16 PM |
| 20 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.No it doesn’t. Lots of “good catches” get dead bedroomed. Everyone thinks fit CEOs have it good with their trophy wives, but if they aren’t alpha at home they get treated like any other beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:15 PM |
| 1 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.True..... Until she has him by the balls legally, of course. Once she either gets marriage from him or a kid then even though she won't want to lose him, she will still be able to withdraw sex because she knows she can financially ruin him for the next decade +. So this strategy only seems viable in the early stages. That is only leverage they use against betas because they don’t want to have sex with them. The wives of alphas are kinky and submissive decades into the marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:12 PM |
| 14 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.You have to understand that over time in a relationship, most men will gradually reshape themselves to become what their girlfriend asks of them, thinking that giving her what she wants will improve their relationship. But what really happens is they become more beta and less alpha by doing so, and that’s why her attraction to him dies. Many men have some self respect, frame and alpha qualities in the early stages of a relationship, so their sex life works ok, even if it is nothing like what rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:10 PM |
| 2 | A man's best chance at a sexually healthy relationship is one in which he is far more attractive than his partner.Her sexual attraction for you will be on thin ice which will crack, eventually. Not if you're alpha it won't. Even husbands who have been dead bedroomed for years can learn game and to hold frame and make their wives submissive and kinky. The idea that women lose attraction is a myth based on most men going beta in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Beta males are repulsive to women. Unfortunately, due to lack of awareness of the Redpill, men miss out on having success with women.There is nothing wrong with beta qualities, they are even required for a stable LTR. Women do want beta qualities in a partner. But only alpha qualities make them feel real passion, and if you don’t have those, you’re missing out on a lot - girls are MUCH more fun if you’re alpha. And in the long run, you’re going to have real problems if all you bring is beta, pure betas end up getting treated very poorly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 07:29 PM |
| 3 | Beta males are repulsive to women. Unfortunately, due to lack of awareness of the Redpill, men miss out on having success with women.It's not like there are a lot of humans out there, regardless of gender, who want a partner who shows, like, I dunno, mutual love and respect. Sure, women want an alpha that will love and respect them. But love and respect without alpha qualities doesn’t work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 03:20 PM |
| 5 | Own Your Shit Weekly - July 07, 2020What is rule 9? | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/07/20 03:44 PM |
| 5 | Own Your Shit Weekly - July 07, 2020WARNING: This post contains 22 instances of she/her. I am aware of this before posting but have left it in for context and believe this is a useful case study not only for myself but for others who are in a similar position to me. The problem with guys mentioning her a lot is that they usually do it as if she’s the explanation for what is wrong in the marriage. You’re not doing that here, you’re describing how she responded to you. Fast forward to Saturday night and I had sex with my wife for th… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/07/20 03:37 PM |
| 2 | How can a woman prove she's not betabuxxing/cucking/otherwise using you?If you act to other girls like you do to this girl, and none of them react like her, my money is on her faking it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:15 PM |
| 7 | How can a woman prove she's not betabuxxing/cucking/otherwise using you?The answer ultimately must be that if you follow the Red Pill, there is nothing a woman can do to assure you, because they believe that women are by nature going to betray them. This is just plain silly. You’re listening too much to the incel types. The alphas and Chads don’t experience anything like that. And if you get into an LTR with a girl at your SMV, hers depreciate faster meaning you’ll soon be her best option by far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:09 PM |
| 1 | How can a woman prove she's not betabuxxing/cucking/otherwise using you?If you’re alpha, you get plenty of attention from women and have no reason to suspect that anyone is “betabuxxing” you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?It’s not a dichotomy - they’re more orthogonal traits than opposed. Like say athleticism and intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?It sounds like you’re making this up without having any actual experience with how women react to alphas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 12:58 PM |
| 0 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?It isn’t a kink - they weren’t like that before but after their man alphas up they submit, it happens every time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 12:39 PM |
| 0 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?That sexually, she does as told and wants to please. At any time you can unzip and she’ll give a blowjob. She wears the lingerie and use the sextoys you lay out. She follows instructions in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?We’re not talking “spank me harder, Daddy”, just the natural submission to an alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 10:36 AM |
| 0 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?It’s because you’ve never experienced how you respond to a dominant alpha with strong game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?I coach married men to improve their sex life, but it is the same techniques and in my experience it is universally effective. I can’t imagine all my clients had “psychologically damaged” wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?I do wonder what kind of women are okay with this treatment and I don't think that a lot of mentally healthy and stable ones are. I’ve coached many men, and women are not just ok with it - the stuff you see as bizarre is what actually works and makes them love and submit to their husband. From dead bedroom to normal sex life is typically 2-3 months, and those that continue upping their alpha after that get a submissive, kinky wife in 6 months or so. What is said on r/marriedredpill is said becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 08:21 AM |
| 2 | FR - Breaking and fixing your shit.I agree that we "talk too little about love around here," but at the same time, bouncing from one marriage to the next live-in LTR in the blink-of-an-eye is fucking retarded. Yeah, I’m not saying that love is something that we should blindly follow, at all. It regularly makes people do retarded things. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/07/20 11:21 PM |
| 48 | FR - Breaking and fixing your shit.I’m going to take another angle on this: love is real. It’s a real emotion. You, like most men, feel it. We can talk trash about disney romance and how it turns men beta and yadda yadda, but that doesn’t make it go away. That’s why not just the MRP vets but from all over the manosphere end up in LTRs. Sex and plate spinning is fun, but most of us end up wanting to live with a girl we love. And MRP shows us how to make that work, how to stay alpha and have a great relationship. How to love a woma… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/07/20 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Hanging on by a thread, must need a MAPSure, but most guys I see running MAPs are doing the dancing monkey better beta thing and that doesn’t give her the tingles. Girls fall in love with cocky smiles, asshole remarks and big dick energy, not that you made money and learned woodworking. | /r/askMRP | 02/07/20 12:10 PM |
| 3 | Hanging on by a thread, must need a MAPNot being alpha turns a woman off. When I'm gaming, my wife will come and sit on my lap and kiss my neck. | /r/askMRP | 02/07/20 08:16 AM |
| 3 | Hanging on by a thread, must need a MAPFollowing a MAP is fine, but it isn't really important. Most guys fill their MAP with all sorts of beta stuff like getting their shit in order, leading and being more disciplined. And that just doesn't matter much. You need to focus on acting alpha, passing shit tests, holding frame, learning game, lifting, dieting. | /r/askMRP | 02/07/20 08:13 AM |
| 1 | TRP states things in the most extreme way when their main points could be A LOT more helpful and excepted in other ways.I coach men to become alpha, and a very common problem is that they’ve read the red pill literature and even with how extremely it is described they still think they can just be “red pill aware” and change a few things a bit and they’re golden. No. You have to go all in if you want all that fun from submissive girls. That quote you posted is not being red - it sounds like common sense advice that many would say already applied to their relationship. There are some red pillers who are so insecure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 08:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV The Red Pill Cannot be AmoralFor example, there are very real ethical questions as to whether or not euthanasia is ethical, etc. Similarly there has been a lot of ink spilled about ethical questions with respect to anesthesia. Questions about whether or not pain killers and powerful ones at that, for things like chronic pain and balancing questions about pain management with addiction potential are innately ethical. TRP is amoral in the sense that knowing the psychology and medicine relevant to euthanasia and anesthesia is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 08:24 PM |
| 2 | For you RP’ers out there, how many of you follow your morality? (Q4RP)Strategy is amoral - that does in no way imply that the people who know the strategy are without morals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/20 10:12 PM |
| 9 | Doomed to beta-dom?It depends entirely on whether or not you can stop acting beta and begin being alpha. How you’re treated is a reflection of how you are, it is a simple as that. Nothing you or her did or said will change that. | /r/askMRP | 30/06/20 05:51 PM |
| 1 | How many men on here have ever been approach, asked out or pursued by another woman?It happens regularly after talking a bit (I don’t have the looks to have that effect from a distance). If they were men, they’d be hit with sexual harassment charges, these girls are clearly accustomed to getting sex when they want it. When they try to kiss and you reject them, they just go for say fondling your crotch to turn you on (which admittedly does have an effect, at that point I go home since I have no intention of cheating). I even had a girl who said she wanted me to film her getting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/20 08:19 AM |
| 1 | TRP and FDS might be effective but it won't make you truly happy or let you experience real love.How can you be happy if you just try to take as much value as possible from your SO while giving as little as possible in return? Having a partner that wants to make me happy is great. How can you be happy if you assume the opposite gender has bad intentions and wants to use you? I don’t assume that. That is how women are towards betas, I’m alpha. Women treat alphas well. How can you be happy if you don't allow yourself to be vulnerable with your partner of the opposite gender? I like handling s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/20 07:11 PM |
| 8 | Reddit ban coming?We did not get hit, they banned the_donald and 2000 other subreddits I never heard of. This is the list of bans with over 10 users https://www.redditstatic.com/banned-subreddits-june-2020.txt | /r/askMRP | 29/06/20 05:50 PM |
| 10 | Mod Notice: Reddit may ban The Red Pill in the next wave of SJW censorship. Immunize yourself by bookmarking our official off-Reddit site, TRP.REDThey banned 2000 subreddits, but not us. Look in r slash announcements This is the list of active subreddits that got banned https://www.redditstatic.com/banned-subreddits-june-2020.txt | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/20 05:46 PM |
| 3 | Mod Notice: Reddit may ban The Red Pill in the next wave of SJW censorship. Immunize yourself by bookmarking our official off-Reddit site, TRP.REDYep, these got banned https://www.redditstatic.com/banned-subreddits-june-2020.txt | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/20 05:44 PM |
| 6 | Mod Notice: Reddit may ban The Red Pill in the next wave of SJW censorship. Immunize yourself by bookmarking our official off-Reddit site, TRP.REDThey banned 2000 subreddits: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/hi3oht/update_to_our_content_policy/ We did not get hit, this is the list of bans with over 10 users https://www.redditstatic.com/banned-subreddits-june-2020.txt | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/20 05:44 PM |
| -1 | What Is The Equalizer To Online Dating For Men?Men have the red pill. The idea that anything (hookups, dating, marriage) is difficult for men is just plain silly; it is easy and effortless for alphas. Sure lots of men struggle, and I feel for those who don't know about the red pill, but those with access to the alpha manual just need to get to work instead of whining. By the same token, online dating and SoMe isn't great for women. There are lots of women who struggle in that market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/20 10:10 AM |
| 32 | Reddit ban coming?There is no female hate here, the mods remove any whiny post that put the blame on female nature instead of taking personal responsibility. Maybe we get banned for male hate, with how often we call men faggots and pussies. | /r/askMRP | 28/06/20 03:33 PM |
| 6 | Reddit ban coming?What rumor? | /r/askMRP | 28/06/20 02:21 PM |
| 2 | When do you promote a plate/woman you are dating to relationship/LTR status?When you feel like it. Look, many vets here have gone from dead bedrooms to having a loving, kinky, submissive wife. You don’t need some elaborate setup, you just need to be alpha and have frame and then it doesn’t matter what you did. | /r/askMRP | 27/06/20 05:08 PM |
| 28 | Preparing for divorceHave read Rational Male and Preventative Medicine. I’m half way through the sidebar. Rollo's book are more sociological observations than actionable advice. Read the first books on the sidebar. I know you think you've tried everything, but really you haven't done shit. The 101 sidebar will tell you what to do, and if you can follow the strategy outlined, you will fix yourself and that will almost certainly improve your marriage, to a degree you wouldn't believe possible. I went from a wife who b… | /r/askMRP | 24/06/20 07:21 AM |
| 2 | Shit tests are just plain unattractive"What if I want to get fit but don't want to look like an awkward noob when I starting out?" Just deal with itm Suck it up. Reframe it, think of shit tests as flirting. There is no way you'll get through this if you get butthurt over shit tests. | /r/askMRP | 14/06/20 09:20 AM |
| 3 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsYou are not legally obligated to pay more than the cheapest way to fix the damages. That’s how the law works. You can’t use arguments like these, they just don’t work - in all other areas of life, getting forced to pay like you do for child support would be considered ludicrous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 05:29 AM |
| 4 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsThe owner of car B has a get-out-of-jail-free card: they can sell their car and not have to pay for the repairs. But, B loves that car, they want to keep that car. B tells A he will put in the time and effort to fix his car himself. But since A was half at fault for the accident, B asks for 50% of the costs of the material to fix the car. That would 100% not stand up in court. If you can recover the cost fully and you choose not to, there is no way you have a legitimate claim. Your argument supp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:48 PM |
| 1 | How old are the posters here and is betabucks really even a relevant option for them right now?The first thing I get them to do is stop all talk about relationship issues. No asking her to change, no whining, no suggestions. If she says anything, ignore it or make fun of it (as in actual fun, light and smooth - not derisive). Then I get them to focus on being RUCCE - Relaxed, Unaffected, Confident, Cocky, Egocentric. If they can only manage one, they only do one, but the goal is to improve, and implement all of them in their behavior and identity eventually. That’s the basics that gets th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/20 06:55 PM |
| 3 | How old are the posters here and is betabucks really even a relevant option for them right now?I get paid to coach men to get the love and sex back in their relationships. A lot of men are suppressing the alpha they have in them because they think their wives and society tell them the truth about how to make a relationship work. And even the insecure guys, many of them have applied themselves in work or sports and show great competence and confidence in those areas (even if their insecurity still lingers) and they can learn the some for relationship - in fact they can be the ones who end … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/20 07:32 AM |
| 7 | How old are the posters here and is betabucks really even a relevant option for them right now?As someone who coaches married men, betabucks is very real, it causes extreme relationship problems, and the problems go away as soon as they switch to alpha behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/20 05:44 AM |
| 6 | How old are the posters here and is betabucks really even a relevant option for them right now?The psychological reasons for why girls go for BBs and why guys try to fill that role are still there. And being beta is as much if not more about being supplicant than money. And while young betas get some sex (it is not until he is hooked to her by kids that it gets really bad), it is no where near as much or as fun as what alphas get. Every guy at every age should know of the dangers of going beta and understand that especially long term it is not a viable strategy for happiness. What are you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/20 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Is AFBB real?As a father of 3, i say you have time for other things too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/20 05:34 AM |
| 1 | Is AFBB real?I would head over to r/marriedredpill, that place is solely focused on becoming alpha with none of the whining that plague many other red forums. Read the sidebar and wiki. Athol Kay’s Married Man Sex Life Primer is an excellent comprehensive introduction to being red pill, though in the context of being in a relationship. If you’re more into dating and spinning plates, there are solid guides on the main TRP forum, and websites like Illimitable Men (read their Shit Test Encyclopedia!) and Chatea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Is AFBB real?Maybe, but we agree on what usually happens: the man drops whatever alpha he had, falls into the BB role and she loses respect and attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Is AFBB real?Why not become alpha instead? Then you can have good relationships and very little risk of her cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Is AFBB real?Yep. And that comes with all the usual stuff like “it is natural a couple loses passion after a while”, “mothers can’t be expected to have time and energy for sex”. Even the marriages that don’t end in divorce are obviously very low quality for the average man. You have to be alpha if you want a good relationship - being BB won’t make you happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Is AFBB real?Most women still settle down with a beta man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 03:29 PM |
| 4 | Is AFBB real?Yep. I’m 42 and it is painfully obvious how the guys who relied on beta game (ie. being a good, loyal provider and family man) are treated like shit by their wives. If you want a good relationship/marriage, you have to bring plenty of alpha too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 03:27 PM |
| 3 | [Q4RP] What good RP dating advice does the BP mainstream disagree with?Alpha and beta - that the beta qualities that women seek (or settle) for long term relationships doesn’t turn them on so the sex life dies out. You have to be alpha. Shit tests - that most of what women tell you are not something they mean but tests of your frame and should be made fun of or ignored, and never taken seriously. Those are the main differences, and they are are very big because they show how utterly misguided the very common strategy of being an understanding, respectful, communica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Redpill men in LTRs, what do you do if youre going through major life difficulties, since you believe that women will unconsciously hold it against men for having major chinks in their armour?Major life difficulties aren't an issue, whining and not being able to handle them are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 05:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The amount of sex a man has doesn't not determine his value.I’m strong, poor, and get a ton of sex, in a neighborhood full of rich marathon runner types in dead bedroom marriages. Of course a man’s value is determined by how much he lifts and how much sex he gets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 09:30 AM |
| 3 | What is the long-term motivation for working/focusing on my “beauty”?It will matter now, and with better looks you can find a better man and have a family with him. The quality of the partner you are going to have and raise children with and live with for decades makes a real impact on your quality of life. And it will matter latter. My wife is 40, still has defined abs and can do pullups, puts effort into hair and skin care, and she just looks much, much better than her peers and easily outshines many younger women who don’t put the same effort into their looks.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 09:25 AM |
| 3 | Question for RP Guys, why should us women date you when the red pill theory is all about sex with as many women as possible?What so you mean “should”? What women are attracted to have very little to do with being sensible. Alphas don’t score by convincing girls how rational it would ne, it’s just about being attractive so girls want to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it's fair to say most Relationships failed because the two shared no goal?No. Most relationships fail because the woman tells the man to act beta and he complies, killing her attraction to and respect for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Men who think "men age like wine" while saying women hit the wall are exactly the same as fds women who look at an obese, unhygienic woman and call her a "queen."Looks detoriate with age for both sexes - but a man’s looks depend more on strength, ruggedness, jaw line, etc. while the traits that are most affected by age like skin and hair quality play a lesser role. Skin and hair quality are relatively much more important for women. Also a man’s attractiveness is much less determined by his looks than it is for a woman, so the detoriation of his looks have less impact. And many men develop stronger frame as they age, so they can become more attractive as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Men Who Want RelationshipBeing red pill and knowing female nature is exactly why you should be comfortable getting into a relationship. The 50% divorce rate, the “passion dies down over time”, you don’t have to worry about that. That’s stuff that happen to betas. As an alpha, you can keep her sweet, loving, submissive and kinky and raise a family together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Man kisses woman without consent on Live TV; she's happy about it, but the internet loses their mindsPeople who thinks that's non-consensual, or who think you can't tell if there's consent when you go for a kiss, have they never kissed anyone? If she tilts her head to align her mouth and opens it, there's consent right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 11:58 AM |
| 0 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?No, most of the veterans actively want a nuclear family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?I’m not fascist either, and very red. This is just silly tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Many red men are married. There’s a r/marriedredpill subreddit even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 07:02 PM |
| 1 | There's a good reason why FDS does not preach self improvement like TRP does - "self improvement" is constantly thrown at and practiced by women.I am a woman and I would absolutely consider not being willing to show emotion and cry in front of me a deal breaker. You say that, but in reality women find it very unattractive. I have said it a few times on this thread but I don't understand how there can be so many obese people yet I haven't met them. This is not about being obese. When we’re talking about optimizing sexual strategy, the bar isn’t just not being fat. From just being non-fat there is a ton of room to improve and become more a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 07:53 PM |
| 2 | There's a good reason why FDS does not preach self improvement like TRP does - "self improvement" is constantly thrown at and practiced by women.Attractive men are men who are willing to cry in front of you and genuinely tell you how they feel even if it means appearing vulnerable, but that's not what trp tells men to do based on what I've seen. Of course not, women don’t like that. Much more are simply healthy rather than fit, but they watch their weight. Out in the real world, it is very obvious that not many girls maintain an attractive figure, and they would benefit greatly from actually watching their diet and exercising properly. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 09:17 AM |
| 3 | There's a good reason why FDS does not preach self improvement like TRP does - "self improvement" is constantly thrown at and practiced by women.Isn't that the whole thing where they act like emotionless robots rather than a human being with weaknesses and feelings? Imagine how an attractive man behaves - it’s that. Do you seriously think that TRP tells men to act like robots? People keep saying this on this thread, where is this land where women don't exercise, what age group is this? I'm 21 and almost every girl I know exercises, at least in her own room. They're all obsessed over food, every time I want to make food for friends I have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 08:45 AM |
| 1 | There's a good reason why FDS does not preach self improvement like TRP does - "self improvement" is constantly thrown at and practiced by women.Trp's idea of it is usually just "lift, have hygiene, and dress well," of which women usually do the latter two anyway. I don't think the average dude on trp is gonna be looking deep inside to do some self reflection lol The red pill emphasizes frame the most, and that certainly requires looking deep inside. Then comes game. The least important is looks (but of course not something you should ignore, but still less important than frame and game). Also, when a woman’s body is so important to her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 07:35 AM |
| 1 | There's a good reason why FDS does not preach self improvement like TRP does - "self improvement" is constantly thrown at and practiced by women.The average woman doesn’t put in much effort. Where do you show that they do. Why do you even think that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 07:29 AM |
| 2 | There's a good reason why FDS does not preach self improvement like TRP does - "self improvement" is constantly thrown at and practiced by women.The women who self imrpove are few and far between. When you see how little effort women on average put in, and then see what FDS (and you) write, you really get the idea that they’re entitled, overweight and unfeminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 04:24 AM |
| 0 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.Which is what frustrates so many men (and women)-poor results from doing everything right If you’re doing the red pill right, you see massive results. It’s like night and day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 04:16 AM |
| 7 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.Ok, so you have a hangup about your ex wife. We’re still together I so enjoy how you talk about your natural growth mindset with words like "I've always had" and "weak guys". Ego ego ego. More like facts. You seem upset that your theory doesn’t hold up. The reality is that men who self improve get punished very hard if they make the mistake of listening to their wife, or women in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.Well, you're not red so I wouldn't expect us to agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 10:19 PM |
| 10 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.I’ve always had a growth mindset. Before finding TRP I was already fit, well dressed, good social skills, made money - like with most things important to me I applied myself to being attractive and having value. But I also communicated with, listened to and respected what my wife said. Because I thought that was how you made a relationship work. And that of course resulted in a dead bedroom. For some of us, the problem wasn’t weakness or timidness or not having value, but simply that we used the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Was /r/TheRedPill a success or a failure? Do most men who find TRP increase their sexual options or do they give up?I think the number of people who actually do the work and improve significantly is fairly low. It's like fitness, lots of people get a gym membership, get a 5x5 stronglifts routine, maybe even calculate their TDEE - but few actually stick to it and become buff. The strategy works, most people are just lazy and weak. And just like with fitness, a lot more people want to whine about impossible beauty standards and fat shaming than doing anything about it. So the TRP sub has become what it is. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Pessimistic thought of the day: People say they prefer to have sex with someone they feel attached to, but what happens is that they feel attached to any sexy person in their surroundingsPersonality is a major part of being sexy. Especially for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 03:17 PM |
| 1 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?The script is fine - the reason it fails for many is that they use a sexual strategy that is utterly flawed. With the red pill play book it would work out perfectly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 03:12 PM |
| 1 | There are many attractive alpha looking men who are 'bluepill' and will never have to take or even comprehend the redpillYeah absolutely, and alpha looking guys tend to get enough free attention that they act alpha when dating. But once they get serious and begin liking the girl they begin listening and thus lose frame - and then it goes downhill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 06:21 PM |
| 4 | There are many attractive alpha looking men who are 'bluepill' and will never have to take or even comprehend the redpillAnd those alpha looking men who act beta - they are not alpha and aren't treated well in their relationships. Without frame your looks won't get you far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 05:03 PM |
| 1 | FDS isn’t good dating adviceWomen don't need a strategy to attract men. Haha of course they do. Most women are unattractive and clueless about it, and that’s why they have trouble finding a good quality man. Sure, they can find a weak, unattractive man, but that is not how to get a good relationship or life. When you hear the betas whining about their dead bedrooms and bitchy wife, does anything really think that the wife is enjoying that? The goal for women should be to get an alpha to settle down, and that takes sexual s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Its coming...Why do so many fantasy/low tech movies make women out to be potentially great archers? Archers need the upper body strength to handle a bow with high draw weight, and long arms for draw length, two things women tend to lack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 09:44 PM |
| 8 | Wife making more moneyNope. Money is a beta trait, attraction comes from alpha traits. Making less money means you lack beta and that makes you less valuable as a long term partner, but for women there is zero overlap between attraction and wanting you to provide for her. | /r/askMRP | 09/05/20 05:39 AM |
| 2 | Finally DivorcedGood one :D | /r/askMRP | 08/05/20 09:03 PM |
| 32 | Finally DivorcedFor anyone else on the fence I'd say go for it. It’s not that simple. If you’re alpha and get plenty of attention when playing dread, and you’re on the fence, sure. Or if your wife is so low quality that even if she was loving, submissive and kinky you still wouldn’t want her, sure. But lots of guys are stuck in the idea that their wife is naturally bitchy and low libido, which is just wrong. When women are done they are done. They’re done - until you raise your SMV a few points. Then they’re fu… | /r/askMRP | 08/05/20 07:02 PM |
| 7 | kids, women and marriageIf you donate, you don’t have to see them ever. | /r/askMRP | 07/05/20 05:36 AM |
| 2 | The reason why TRP say that men's SMV is highest in their late 30's is because they finally have enough money to pay for regular sexYou're wrong and really don't know how this works. Lots of poor guys with low social status do well with girls. Lots of men who aren't gifted with good looks or height do well with girls. Just lift and diet, dress and groom well, and most importantly learn frame and game, and you'll do fine. Unless you're literally deformed, the main thing holding you back is your attitude. The guys who can't cut it, it is as good as always because of their mental weakness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 10:39 AM |
| 7 | Never marry a woman with divorced parentsLooking at those statistics, I don't see anything that suggests "never". Respecting red flags whether her parents divorced or not is the right way to go about it. But more importantly, statistics for the general population don't mean shit for an alpha. Most men are low alpha and are treated dramatically differently, so stats aren't even remotely applicable. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 06/05/20 08:32 AM |
| 3 | Wife wants me to take her back and I'm torn.it's hard to imagine my current wife as a mother (but who knows, right?). This is a big one. Why the fuck are you considering her when you want a family and don’t think she’ll be a good mother? Parenting is hard, man. If she’s not empathic, neat and hardworking already (with people and projects she cares about, don’t use how she treats you as a metric) things are going to go south real bad when there are kids in the picture. Read this https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/37l2q0/when_… | /r/askMRP | 06/05/20 07:22 AM |
| 5 | Wife wants me to take her back and I'm torn.Ignore her promises. Women will rewrite the rules anytime they see fit, what she says is entirely irrelevant. And this is clearly a beta bucks proposition - which is why you get power point presentations instead of sex. The only thing that matters is your SMV and frame. That makes you attractive and makes her naturally behave the way you want, and it also gives you the leverage and determination to enforce your boundaries as necessary. Another thing to note here, at the level of SMV you had, she… | /r/askMRP | 06/05/20 07:15 AM |
| 2 | The reason why TRP say that men's SMV is highest in their late 30's is because they finally have enough money to pay for regular sexA late 30's man will usually look worse than a man in his 20's, so it can't be looks. So logically it has to be money. You’re forgetting behavior. Frame and game. Those are more important for alpha than looks. But yes, women have a dual sexual strategy. When they’re looking to settle down, they like money too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Why The Red Pill died with MillenialsThe subreddit went to shit, sure. It got invaded by whiny, weak incels and MRAs, bitching about how evil women are because they want Chad. But the red pill as a sexual strategy isn’t dead. Being alpha still works. And the way you wrote your OP, you made it sound like social media somehow invalidared that, and that is just so obviously false - and frankly it sounds a lot like the sort of whiny BS that made the TRP sub go bad. But even if the TRP sub went bad, the red pill still works and if you g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Why The Red Pill died with MillenialsI've already been through TRP, including lifting, and found success, but times are changing and tactics have to change too. And this experience leads you to conclude that TRP is dead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 06:54 PM |
| 1 | TRP was meant for Average Frustrated Chumps not Bottom Tier OmegasTRP is like lifting. Lifting works, but many men don’t have the backbone to stick to it and do the work. 2-3 years of consistent effort and these guys will go from a 2 to 5. All that work to get mediocre women our AFC was running from There is a major difference here in that a man with poor genetics but frame and game might not be able to get more than average women, those women will be attracted to him and treat him well. While an AFC who lacks game would be treated like shit once the honeymoon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Why The Red Pill died with MillenialsLift and learn game, then come back to us. “Analyzing trends” when you don’t have any experience and refuse to listen to people who do is just circlejerking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Why The Red Pill died with MillenialsYou clearly have no idea how girls react to game. You think she’ll stay loyal to some guy she texted with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Why The Red Pill died with MillenialsBut I think old dudes underestimate the power of OLD and the runaway success that's possible with it. So what if some male model type has it easy? Why would that in any way limit you? Those guys are so rare they don’t impact what is available to you at all. Are you seriously refusing to play because of that? Do you also refuse to work because you’ll never be a billionaire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 05:47 PM |
| 12 | Why The Red Pill died with MillenialsThis sounds like armchair philosophy from someone who doesn’t actually see other people. First, people do actually still meet outside of OLD. A lot. Second, by just lifting and presenting yourself well, most men can easily get to the point where they can compete on OLD. The male models are few and far between. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 02:41 PM |
| 40 | To Married Men of the RP: How much support in hard times can you count on to get from her?The general picture is good support for everything except handling your own emotions. If you’re down or out she’ll keep the household running and take care of you. If you need emotional support, they’re really bad at that and react poorly to it - stoic practices is your best source of support. Some also use family, friends or therapists. | /r/askMRP | 03/05/20 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?No, it is not an exception. The dual sexual strategy framework describes partner choice and treatment accurately. Of course on a spectrum, it's not like everyone is either strictly AF or BB. Men come with varying degrees of alpha and beta, and change over an relationship - and women respond accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 09:57 AM |
| 5 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?Nope. Sounds like you have a really weird idea of what the red pill is. Lighten up, bro. You sound like a tense, bitter incel tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 09:52 AM |
| -1 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?Well, there are plenty of short alphas who do just fine, so you're clearly wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 08:37 AM |
| 0 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?The average guy looking short guy with frame and game, yeah he can easily pull hot girls - and he'll have a way, way better time with women than a beta millionaire (the beta millionaire might be able to get a 30 year old hot woman to marry him, but she'll treat him like shit). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 08:28 AM |
| 5 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?Obviously, yes. People don't have sex to deposit cum. It is very weird on several levels to think of somene's pussy as being "pre-owned". And it doesn't take long for all residue to be gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 08:23 AM |
| 2 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?Alpha, beta and the dual sexual strategy are all very precisely defined and it is absolutely falsifiable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 08:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Toxic masculinity is enforced by men, for men, and is necessary for boys to grow up mentally healthy and sexually confident.When manospherians get huffy about being labeled as TM they're misplacing their ire towards women, when any boy who was raised in an old school RP environment (before internet spergs felt the necessity to systematize what men for millenia have always understood effective masculinity to be) knows that the source of TM was always other men. And this was a good thing. I have no idea what you're saying. Yes, the idea behind the term "toxic masculinity" is to stigmatize natural and healthy male behav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 07:16 AM |
| 1 | The 80/20 concept is inherently flawed, based on data that doesn't represent the population, and selectively ignores parts of that data that make men look bad.You got some things mixed up. The red pill 80/20 rule is that 20% of the men are having 80% of the sex. It's not meant to be backed by some statistic and nobody cares if it is exactly 80/20 (and it was only meant to apply to the dating ready population, not the entire population). The point, that everyone would agree with, is that a minority of the men are receiving the majority of the female attention. And the reason that point is made is not to make women look shallow but to get men to focus o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 07:13 AM |
| 6 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?We’re also not going to marry a post wall cum depository who offers nothing except a pre-owned pussy with semen residue. It sounds like you have some issues, bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 06:59 AM |
| 4 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?It's fine. Humans like all animals have behavorial patterns, and males and females have distinct differences. AWALT is necessary term because for some reason a lot of men fall under the impression that some women aren't attracted to alpha and just want beta men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 06:55 AM |
| 3 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?What a load of crap. Sure, good looking guys have an advantage, but alphas with below average looks can easily have success with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 06:51 AM |
| 8 | Does anybody feel like this sub is getting out of topic from TRP?The sexual strategy part of the red pill is so widely accepted that the bloopers stopped arguing that - instead they switched to politicizing the issues, and making strawmen arguments where they point out the flaws of incels and MRAs and make it seem like these are issues with the red pill (which is ironic given how much red pillers look down on weak men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 06:48 AM |
| 3 | How can I get back into the drivers' seat and save my marriage with childrenI have to learn to pass them, set boundaries and become alpha. Yep, do that. There’s a lot of other shit going on, but right now, just work on alphaing up. Right the MRP sidebar, wiki, top posts, make it your religion. In some months, if you stick to it, you’ll have the frame and abundance to think clearly about your situation. You’ll have a devoted wife, and good options to replace her. | /r/askMRP | 30/04/20 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Women. Just how important is social status to you and why?It sounds like you're complaining you don't have the same options as some other men. And my point is that that is only going to change if you change. But if you're happy with how things are, good for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Women. Just how important is social status to you and why?Some friendly advice: stop whining about how unfair it is and alpha up. I've coached several men who went from weak, sex-starved suckups to becoming attractive men. It just takes hard work and proper guidance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Women. Just how important is social status to you and why?It is very unclear what you mean here. Being alpha isn't just about looks, at all. Behavior and attitude are the most important aspects. And social status usually comes from either being alpha (being popular because you're cool) or beta (because you have money or power). Both are values women seek in their partners. And social status does seem to carry value in itself, though it mostly seems to provide beta. You should be careful thinking that betas "do well with women", being sought after as a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 01:37 PM |
| 3 | Women. Just how important is social status to you and why?It doesn't seem to be important. There are men with high social status who get little to no attention from women, and very commonly men with high social status only get the attention you can expect from their potential as beta bucks. It is easy to fall into the trap of seeing a famous alpha and think that his social status is what pulls the girls in, but really it is alphaness that does it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 11:44 AM |
| 10 | Is it worth it?But everything works like a tense peace, if i slip a bit she is like a shark on blood, i know i have to keep my game at 100%, but at the same time is tiring. Like a shark? What, she takes your leg off? Or does she just scowl and say something mean that hurts your feelings? Lighten up, bro, you say she's great and you have great sex, that's because she likes you. No reason to get bothered so much by some lip. | /r/askMRP | 29/04/20 09:28 AM |
| 1 | What does a man have to do to get a reasonable proportion of women to not impose gender roles and expectations in a relationship?If you are alpha, women will accept nearly everything from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 08:19 AM |
| 7 | Desire is ... not having all of something (Long-term relationship)It is largely bullshit. My best friend I've known for over 25 years, still my best friend. I've liked the same sports for decades. I think my wife's ass is still great af 17 years because she's still fit and stayed at 100lbs. Etc. People don't get tired of good things. And people greatly overestimate their desire for variation. One experiment on it I remember was for people going to 3 events with 1 week between each. One group picked their sandwiches for all 3 events in advance, and most picked … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/04/20 08:07 AM |
| 2 | Q4A: Why is desire for young women (legal age or older) singled out and not treated like any other standard?Because middleaged women have the societal clout to decide what is taboo while short men don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 05:26 AM |
| 8 | Women's attraction to alpha traits isn't stupidFrom an evolutionary perspective, animals optimize for their survival first and foremost. This is so reductionist it is as good as wrong. Animals don't "optimize", they follow their sexual selection preferences. Very often that goes against straight optimization, like the peacock's tail or stalk eyed flies. Also, if animals optimize for anything it is for behavior and traits that ensure maximum offspring survival, not their own survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/20 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Questions about alphas and betas and AWALTMRP success stats are probably 10%. Really? I’d put it much higher. And the guys who fail are only those who don’t do it, who lose frame when the wife is sad, angry or frigid. | /r/askMRP | 27/04/20 12:32 PM |
| 3 | Questions about alphas and betas and AWALTThe problem I see is that everybody cannot be alphas, it will always be the best 20% that women will choose. So if every men would apply red pill there would still be 80% of them who stay betas. So what? Are you saying I shouldn’t be alpha and have a great life because if everyone did like me it wouldn’t work? I’m not going to hamstring myself over hypothetical “everyone becomes red” scenario. I also think that alpha is not just competitive. If you’re living with a woman and you’re alpha and att… | /r/askMRP | 27/04/20 12:28 PM |
| 7 | Sidebar is same one as on other two subs?Nope, very different. And the whole attitude is different here. We expect you to take ownership of your situation - you get 1 victim puke if you really must, after that we expect you to work on owning your shit and not whine about how mean women are to you. | /r/askMRP | 26/04/20 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Essay: The Men of PPD Seem to Struggle with Correctly Expressing their SexualityThe point is not to find a middle ground between nice and asshole. Men should realize that women have a dual mating strategy - they seek both alpha and beta (the latter mostly for LTRs). Alpha and beta aren’t opposites, you should see them as orthogonal. Actions and behaviors can be understood as signalling alpha and beta. Look at it like a graph with an axis for each. Being supplicant is +beta -alpha. Making money is +beta. Having family values is +beta. Being an asshole is +alpha -beta. Being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/20 12:02 PM |
| 1 | Is this sub still about Red vs. Blue?When it comes to sexual strategy, few people buy into the blue pill anymore, it’s just so obviously false. Few people disagree that women love Chads and alphas and that is what the red pill describes. So the bloopers switched strategy and now they’re focused on criticizing MRA and incel types, and using them as straw men to discredit the red pill even though those people are not even remotely red. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/20 10:17 AM |
| 2 | Why women give men bad romantic adviceOne thing to note is that in a long term relationship the woman will continue to give her own partner the same sort of “be nicer” romantic advice, even when he is already very committed and the relationship problem is that she doesn’t find him attractive and in particular she doesn’t like how he just tries please her. So it doesn’t seem that women are doing it out of any self interest or to optimise their relationships - they just tell men they want beta, period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/20 10:07 AM |
| 10 | How to make wife stop being a hysterical bitch anytime the kids cry or she is stressed?Remember that alpha and beta are separate. You can be alpha and attractive and enjoy the fruits of that (love, sex), and fail entirely at all the beta stuff with providing and taking care of the family (so everything is a stressful mess and she’s frustrated, hysterical and freaking out from lack of comfort). | /r/askMRP | 25/04/20 01:46 PM |
| 21 | How to make wife stop being a hysterical bitch anytime the kids cry or she is stressed?Increase SMV. Lots of things run more smoothly when your wife is attracted to you. She’ll play along more, and BJs and signs of affection take the edge off how much the day to day sucks. stop arguing. It is not just pointless, it is counterproductive. Either you have the leverage and respect that she does what you want, or you don’t. Arguing won’t change that. Plan shit. We have 3 kids too, it is fucking hectic but you can help it run more smoothly. For example in the morning I have 3 alarms set… | /r/askMRP | 25/04/20 09:35 AM |
| 3 | Words of Weakness, Words of StrengthI assume you dropped in from somewhere else without having a clue about sexual strategy. Read the sidebar. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/04/20 07:37 AM |
| 6 | Words of Weakness, Words of StrengthIf it doesn’t matter to you, then make the decision that reflects who you are. Risk taker or never makes mistakes? Fancy or practical? Experimenting or goes with what he knows he’ll enjoy? do what makes for the best story. just make a decision. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 24/04/20 07:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't really love women for who they areThis is why according to studies men are more likely to "fall in love at first sight". They don't need to know about who and what the woman is, they just fall in love with an ideal in their heads. It wouldn't be surprising if this is simply lust mistaken for love. If she looks good, she pretty much just has to be loyal, fun in bed and not too annoying, and her man will love her. She doesn’t have to have certain hobbies, or the right opinions, or whatever. We don’t have a certain ideal she has to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers, and FDS. What are the ideas that you disagree with when it comes to your own community?If you take the core of red pill - the sexual strategy insights, the emphasis on taking personal responsibility for being attractive and alpha - I disagree with nothing of it. r/marriedredpill carries those principles. If you take the main TRP sub, it seems to have a ton of insecure, weak, unattractive MRA- and incel-type whiners who would rather bitch about female nature than becoming the sort of man who take advantage of it. Beyond how girls feel about Chads and that men aren’t treated fairly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Just how big of a problem is female-on-male sexual assault/harassment?I think you’re on to something here. Women aren’t raping as much as men, so we should ignore it when women rape. That’s sound logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Just how big of a problem is female-on-male sexual assault/harassment?Do you seriously believe that your experiences are representative of actual rape cases? Sheez. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 04:47 PM |
| 23 | Words of Weakness, Words of StrengthSolid post, man. I recommend using the RUCCE mnemonic for the essence of how to present yourself: Relaxed, Unaffected, Confident, Cocky, Egocentric. You capture all of that, and more, and in greater detail. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 24/04/20 04:17 PM |
| 7 | Wife wants a career? Ruining thingsSo, what sort of leverage do you have here? Emotional leverage because you’re a high SMV alpha and play dread? Are you willing to leave her over this? Just being angry without having any way to enforce a boundary is just being a butthurt whiner. | /r/askMRP | 23/04/20 06:59 AM |
| 2 | Most men stop the emotional effort they put in from the beginning once they get the girl. Why are men surprised when sex dies down too ?Most men stop with “emotional effort” because women don’t respond to it - it is after he has done it many times and not gotten any reward for it that he stops. Seriously, any guy who isn’t alpha, if there was great sex for doing something he’d do it, a lot. But women don’t respond to choreplay, so men get lazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Question for Red Pill Men: Would you like a society similar to the Stepford Wives movie where women are replaced by robots?TRPillers believe that women don't contribute to society. (which is false, but I am not going to analyze the whys now) In fact, the top mod of TRP has said in the past that the idea that women don't contribute to society is one of the "deep" RP beliefs that are not for newcomers but for the more experienced members. That’s like saying every officer who uses maneuver warfare is a Nazi because something Rommel said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 10:51 AM |
| 1 | About to file for divorceYou don’t know who she is. What you’re getting is miles away from the submissive, kinky girl she’d be for an alpha. Look at her at her best, when her heart is into making something happen: does she do good? That’s the level of effort she’d put into pleasing alpha. And in all likelihood you’re going to get much of the same shit from the next girl. You’re hoping to fing a girl who appreciates beta game? More thoughts on that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/37l2q0/when_to_nex… | /r/askMRP | 18/04/20 05:36 AM |
| 3 | About to file for divorceI use a 3 pronged strategy in my coaching: get them to really understand the female dual strategy, how different alpha is from their idea of a good man, and that they’re wasting their energy by giving beta - they will never be rewarded with love and passion for it. have them work on signalling alpha qualities move their focus to self control and discipline with their behavior instead of trying to make their impulses change by thinking about it. Fat guys don’t wait for their hunger to go away bef… | /r/askMRP | 18/04/20 05:25 AM |
| 1 | If you fuck another dude’s girl, is it safe to say that you’ve “bested” him?The better man? Maybe she thinks he’s hotter. Maybe she thinks he’s not hotter but a better beta and she is looking to settle down. Maybe he can’t take him in a fight. Maybe he makes less money. Etc. Thinking that beating someone at one thing makes you a better man is retarded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 01:06 PM |
| 8 | About to file for divorceIt sounds like you lift a bit, and do a good job at doing beta stuff. God you go on about your beta accomplishments. But you lack frame and game severely. You have to think alpha and act alpha, man. Think about how you’re signalling alpha in your social interactions with her. Read this and look ar the video of Corey Worthingtion https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/20/alpha/ that’s alpha. Not this pent up, neurotic, bitter, entitled, CEO-who-also-does-chores-and-home-improvement beta bullshit sho… | /r/askMRP | 17/04/20 05:36 AM |
| 2 | Wife had a coronavirus exposure. Would you be sleeping in a separate room? How to handle?I have a good friend who is a lung specialist. The basic idea is just that these little guys double in number every x hours. And they’re physically located somewhere in you, and in some tissue types they multiply faster than in others, and does more damage there. So if you start out with a million times more virus particles in lung tissue that they really thrive in, you’re going to be much, much worse off than if you get just a few virus particles in your throat. By the time your immune system i… | /r/askMRP | 14/04/20 07:29 PM |
| 4 | Wife had a coronavirus exposure. Would you be sleeping in a separate room? How to handle?If you’re healthy you’re very unlikely to get any issues from coronavirus. What is important is that you get as small as possible of initial virus load, especially deep in the lungs. Your immune system takes x days to learn to combat the virus and meanwhile the virus is replicating in your tissue - whether you start with 100 particles or 5 billion, that makes a lot of difference to how much damage it’ll do before your immune system takes care of it. And deep lung infection is a lot worse than th… | /r/askMRP | 14/04/20 08:43 AM |
| 5 | Dead bedroom in long term relationshipsBecause women want providers to provide - they don’t want to fuck them, and they only do so to the minimum amount needed to keep them around. Providers don’t have to be happy, they just have to stay and provide. You won’t get passion and sex for providing. You have to be attractive to get that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/20 10:57 AM |
| 0 | Why does PPD never talk about r/thebluepill?Because the blue pill is so wrong that all they could do what make a sub where they said dumb shit and met all critique with “it’s just satire”. It is the same reason why bloopers here always dodge questions, they know what they’re saying is wrong. They’re ideologically motivated so they seek to avoid the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/20 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Matriarchal societies have never oppressed men the way patriarchal societies do. What does this say about men and women?It tells us that men are more powerful than women. If you want to see how women treat men when they have power, look at how for example divorces go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/20 10:49 AM |
| 9 | Main EventYep, you missed the exam. Now you're one of those dropouts who always have to explain how your work experience makes you at least as competent as the graduates. | /r/askMRP | 08/04/20 04:45 PM |
| 16 | Main EventNo shit she doesn’t respect you. Do the work, lift, improve, learn to hold frame. Then she’ll respect you. Being a whiny bitch and demanding she respects because you read about how women treat alphas, seriously fuck off. This is exactly what going rambo is: feeling entitled to being treated like a king and going nuts with all sorts of unwarranted demands. Work on YOU, not your wife. YOU are the problem, own your shit and fix it. Outside of a few BPD nutjob wives, everyone here who did the work a… | /r/askMRP | 08/04/20 02:20 PM |
| 10 | Main EventBro, the main event is the alpha exam. It happens after a long period of your relationship oscillating between better and better and periods where she is sweet and horny, and periods with ever increasing bitchiness and shit test severity. This is not the main event. This is just you failing to hold frame in the initial stages and chickening out. | /r/askMRP | 08/04/20 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Is this what maintaining Frame looks like?Maintaining feels more like a blowjob. Like actual lips and tongue on your dick. Get out of this shit about talking and explaining to her what she did wrong. It sounds like you made some progress with your frame, but this need to DEER and communicate needs to go, bro, it is holding you back. | /r/askMRP | 08/04/20 06:48 AM |
| 3 | How often is too often?Good one | /r/askMRP | 07/04/20 04:08 PM |
| 12 | How often is too often?Dude, she doesn't have low sex drive. She just thinks you're a weak, boring, unattractive pushover. Keep going like this, the more committed and hooked you get, the less sex you'll get, until there are kids and she can stop fucking you entirely. We've seen it so many times here, guys like you who come here at age 35 with a marriage that's gone completely to shit. But you got lucky and found this place early. Read the sidebar. It tells you everything you need to know to turn things around. I came… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/04/20 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Behaving like beta bucks/pickmeisha is best to be yourself and simultaneously test somebody for relationship materialLots of sources on it on MRP, it is pretty much the theme of the place. I remember this post from u/thegreasypole as giving me the mental model that really made it click https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/2z2k6y/intermediate_rp_in_a_mrp_scenario_iii_the_system/ Married Man Sex Life Primer by Athol Kay covers it well too (and lots of other stuff) if you want to read more, that book is MRP 101. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/20 07:54 AM |
| 3 | Behaving like beta bucks/pickmeisha is best to be yourself and simultaneously test somebody for relationship materialIt sounds like your experience is 100% what the red pill says (surprise, I know). If you don’t give beta, they lack comfort, become insecure, freak out, etc. If you don’t give alpha, they don’t want you, they don’t treat you well. Alpha and beta aren’t opposites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/20 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Behaving like beta bucks/pickmeisha is best to be yourself and simultaneously test somebody for relationship materialMy woman treats me well because I treat her well. Not because I am alpha. How do you know the reason she treats you well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/20 06:50 PM |
| 6 | Why are most guys overweight if they're already struggling with women. Do they simply not realize the benefits or is it due to popular "wisdom" that looks don't matter?Don’t listen to what women say they like in men, they mostly lie about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/20 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?Actually I think most women will tell you exactly what they want. Haha ok. And what they really want is their man to do chores, right? That's the one women fawn over, and Chad gets passed over because he might be ripped and cocky, but he plays video games and parties instead of cleaning up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?Wait, are we talking about the same MRP? I'd challenge you to go read the first 5 OYS posts at any random point in time then ask yourself, "Is this really working?" Those are mostly used by new guys. It is like goes who start going to the gym and lifting, they don’t get buff the first month, but there is progress. And if you look at the guys who have been at it for longer, they’re doing great, way above what normal men get. There really isn’t any comparison. In my book, if you have to do more th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?There are plenty of beta traits that don't negatively impact alpha. Beta doesn't mean weak, or bad, it means something closer to "provider", and alpha something like "lover". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?Money is a beta trait. It’s funny how many people want to criticize the red pill while not knowing what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?Does it though? Aren't most of those guys busting their asses but still getting starfished, or cheating on their wives, or in the process of getting a divorce? I've followed that forum on and off for awhile, and haven't noticed a high success rate, sorry. There are some guys too weak to get their act together, you have to have som alpha in you to make it work. The majority of guys posting get their shit together, alpha up and get great relationships. What that amounts to in terms of stats, I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 04:47 PM |
| 3 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?If you want to give men advice on relatiobships, you should read up on what works on MRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?You really think that being a lazy slob is going to make your girlfriend hot for you instead of resentful and annoyed? No, but being a fit, confident, cocky alpha will. Whether he does the dishes or not. I’ve left guys for exactly that reason and nothing else. I'm guessing they weren't high SMV alphas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 02:49 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of this study ?Do you think this study is right ? Not done right ? Is this the reality of the life of a woman ? It sounds like there are huge methological flaws with the study, both with data collection and definitions. Actual rape happens and it is a terrible crime, but I am very skeptical about these attempts at moving the definition of rape into applying to normal, romantic relations and rejections. What does it tell about the people ? It says nothing about “the people”. There are rapists out there, and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?So, what is more likely: that you like most girls have little self insight and only think you are attracted to beta, and that like most girls you are actually attracted to alpha, or you are the rare girl who understands what turns her on, and unlike almost every other girl on the planet you happen to prefer beta? I’m putting my money on option 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 01:17 PM |
| 12 | Behaving like beta bucks/pickmeisha is best to be yourself and simultaneously test somebody for relationship materialI just skimmed your post history, where you claim to have male model looks and be red pilled. It sounds like you are very alpha, which is why your girl treats you well. You also give beta, which is why your relationship is nice and stable. You sound like an MRP poster boy, not a beta bucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 01:12 PM |
| 4 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?First, pick a woman who really enjoys sex. Women enjoy sex with attractive men. It’s about being attractive, not finding a woman who “enjoys sex”. And if you’re in a sexless relationship, it isn’t because you found someone with low libido, it is because you’re unattractive. Next, make it a priority to keep her happy, so she doesn't come to resent you, because resentment kills the female libido faster than anything. Don't act like a big man-child; don't make her pick up your dirty dishes and stin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 01:06 PM |
| 3 | Do these guys not see all the average looking couples who I imagine are having "the sex"?They have some sex. Not great sex, not often, she’s not submissive or kinky. The more he gets hooked on the relationship, the less sex they have. Post kids that is very little and she really isn’t into it. Most people say have a ton of excuses to explain why women don’t like sex as much as men, and how attraction fades over time in relationships, to protect women and the ego of unattractive men. If the majority in relationships was having lots of sex, those ideas wouldn’t be so widespread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Women’s Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks sexual strategy is analogous to Men’s Madonna/Whore sexual strategy and neither gender should be shamed for it.The problem with the female sexual strategy is that is deceptive and cruel to betas. They get told if they just commit to the woman, do what she asks, makes her feel comfortable and secure, marries her, gives her children, she’ll love him. He does that, and instead she treats him like shit, denies him sex, possible divorces him and takes half his money and most of his time with his kids. It’s a huge chuck of his life and happiness that she ruins with her strategy. You really think the madonna wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 07:28 PM |
| 1 | What should be done about the “sexlessness epidemic”?Teach men the red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 07:23 PM |
| 8 | Anyone get the "Not tonight, I have Corona Virus starting" rejection yet?A&A is agree and amplify, basic shit testing https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/ But you REALLY need to read the sidebar. The basic playbook is covered in MMSLP. NMMNG and WISNIFG has good tips on assertiveness, arguing and dealing with the self destructive tendency to please - those books are essential for pushovers and nice guys. | /r/askMRP | 01/04/20 07:35 AM |
| 14 | Anyone get the "Not tonight, I have Corona Virus starting" rejection yet?Bro, this isn’t a subreddit for sharing “lol listen to my wife’s silly excuses”. The words don’t matter. You’re unattractive, she makes up some reason to not fuck. There’s no new info in that, no question, nothing of value to you or anyone else. Do the work. Improve. In your situation, you failed to mention what you did, so I expect you did nothing except feel bad yourself and post here for sympathy. The correct response was A&A and LMR techniques. | /r/askMRP | 01/04/20 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Men don't actually want or like when women are honest about their preferences.Talking about “men” is way too general. there are short men, weak men, etc. who don’t like hearing and get angry. there are men who believe what women say, from the polite lies to the cruel deceptions that lands them in dead bedroom marriages, but who could have had much better lives if they knew the truth and could have worked towards that. there are men who already know or who conform to the preferences and are fine hearing it. So, do the hysterics of the first group justify fucking over 2nd g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?Alpha traits are what turn women on. If you are, or want to be, like that is up to you. But women will treat you very differently if you behave as an alpha. That doesn’t protect you completely from misfortune or betrayal, but it sure does help a fucking lot, and it is way easier and more fun in general. The boundaries you set in your relationship and how morality applies is a different discussion. Compare it to a man running around in Syria waving a pig muhammed drawing and getting killed by isl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/20 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?There are no guarantees in life - that doesn’t mean nothing works. I can find an example of a healthy guy who got hit by a car, that doesn’t mean being healthy is pointless. Alpha is a well-defined and very useful term, why do you think it is cringe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/20 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?Lol what are you talking about? Are you upset I don’t wrote like it’s a scientific paper and add “with high likelihood” everywhere? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/20 07:05 AM |
| 5 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?That is probably true. I see it like self discipline - it makes sense to tell people to exercise it, but a lot of people don't have the genetics and brain wiring to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 12:23 PM |
| 5 | Forgiving her doubting me in the past?You messed up, thinking that giving her commitment made her happy, so you gave more and more beta and forgot your alpha. This doesn’t have shit to do with her doubting you. You lost frame, tried to play beta game, tanked your SMV. Every woman in the world would have lost attraction to you - the only difference is that some women are ready to settle down with a beta and will hide their disgust. If you’re too butthurt to get over it, that’s something you have to figure out for yourself, but you ca… | /r/askMRP | 27/03/20 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4M:Do you believe game works?Sure it is nice to have. Women have a dual sexual strategy - they want both alpha and beta traits in partners. But beta traits are only relevant when the man gives her long term commitment, and they aren't rewarded with passion and sex like alpha traits are. Money (and status and power if by that you mean the sort that money gets you) are beta traits and not something you need for game, and for LTRs it can get you into one but it is almost entirely incapable of making the relationship enjoyable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4M:Do you believe game works?Sure there are guys too ugly to stand a chance, but I don't see how that is relevant. Lifting works, even if quadraplegics can't do it. If you don't think frame and game are more important than looks, you are not even close to realizing your potential for being attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 09:32 AM |
| 2 | The red pill as a necessary evil even though it is generally ineffectiveAs someone who never believed looks didn't matter and was just as confident and fit and well dressed and with the same bone structure before the red pill, I can tell you that the RP playbook makes a HUGE difference. You are so incredibly wrong. I went from a dead bedroom and being largely invisible to other women, to having a submissive, kinky wife and when I go out girls grope my crotch and offer to shoot sex tapes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Movies were the nerdy, dorky, "nice" guy gets the hot girl are almost always made by men for men, yet TRP still blames women for "misleading" themWomen do lie about it to men. They absolutely tell men that they get points for being a nice beta. And men fall for and repeat that lie, sure. Do you hear women lamenting that movies show women falling for betas? No, they complain when movies and porn show alphas dominating women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 09:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4M:Do you believe game works?Game and frame are hugely important, way more important than looks. Money is a beta trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 09:16 AM |
| 2 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?Wives want sex from alphas. If her husband is alpha, great for both. If not, it’ll fall somewhere between duty sex and dead bedroom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 06:46 AM |
| 4 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?Then get into an LTR. Alphas get treated very well in LTRs, as long as they stay alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 06:43 AM |
| 12 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?All the studies I've seen show not only are married men happier, but men enjoy marriage more than women. Married men are happier than sexually frustrated, lonely men. That’s a low bar, married men are not happy in any objective sense, and neither have much to do with the options of an alpha. And yeah, women are miserable living with betas. Married life for an alpha is fine, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?And that is not how it works. Don’t expect gratitude for doing work they don’t want. Work on being alpha instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 06:37 AM |
| 3 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?There are different segments. It is the losers who whine about those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Shouldn't guys be happy that they're not forced to be an underappreciated beta bux workhorse?The manosphere as a whole was never all players, it was just the red pillers. We always had MRAs, incels and the “red pill aware” (guys who read the red pill but are too weak to do anything about it). The bloopers have done a great job making it out to be that the red pill isn’t players but whiners though, so they can argue against a straw man and feel better about themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.And my post would should make you change your view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 11:37 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.Again, the whiners who can't manage to follow the advice, they're not alphas, they're just whiners. They call themselves "red pill aware" and we laugh at them, you don't get points for knowing, you get points for doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 10:37 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.There are lots of weak guys in the gym too, they don't define what lifting is. The guys who actually lift do. It's the same with the red pill. Look at the guys who actually live it, fit guys with frame and game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 08:24 PM |
| 2 | Did you know the “truth” about women deep down?I was lied to by my wife, for years, about how she wanted more beta for our marriage to improve. I thought she was being honest and interested in saving us and sparing our kids divorce. She wasn't, and following her advice just made us more miserable. After I found the red pill, it all got fixed so easily. I was already fit, well dressed and had good social skills, I didn't have to do much but stop listening to my wife. So yeah, definetely I was lied to, and it was an exceptionally vicious lie. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Men: how do you feel about being dominant?I like it. I don't think anything less of a girl for submitting, on the contrary it is incredibly feminine and adds greatly to her value, almost as much as looks. A woman too inhibited to submit easily is much less fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 08:09 PM |
| 8 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.Red pillers are the Chads. The whiners you talk about are incel and MRP that hang around the manosphere but don't have the frame to be alpha. And if you think your woman is trading up - you're in for a rude awakening once the honeymoon phase wears off. Betas get treated very poorly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 08:05 PM |
| 8 | Second thoughts on commitmentThe main problem here is that you are not alpha. Alpha up, man. You will get rolled over forever, with any girl, if you stay who you are. You need to change. The second problem is that at 24 she’s already put on 20lbs. Don’t engage with a girl who is already struggling with her weight if that matters to you. | /r/askMRP | 24/03/20 07:20 AM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] After following TRP advice is getting casual sex easy? Considering the sad state of your competition(most men)Non-rich, you certainly see that. Money isn't alpha. To be in the absolute top tier, sure you need both looks, frame and game. That doesn't mean looks matters more than it does, just that at the top you need it all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 01:46 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] After following TRP advice is getting casual sex easy? Considering the sad state of your competition(most men)You don’t need money or status. And looks help, but it is only say 20%. 80% is behavior: frame and game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Despite each of our issues, how many of you are willing to admit that you would HATE to be the opposite gender?Yeah, I’ve been saying the same thing to incels forever: women only have easy access to betas, and they despise betas. It fucking sucks for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 12:41 PM |
| 2 | Men: do you really believe that sexual frustration is worth deeply empathizing with?Yes, it is incredibly hard for men. I sympathize highly with the majority of sexually frustrated men, and coaching some of them to having enjoyable romantic lives and saving families from divorce has been some of the most rewarding things I’ve done in my life. The main unjustice in it is that most men are told lies about what to do. It is like if we made all fat people believe they lost weight by eating more junk food. Men who know about the red pill but don’t act on it, that’s a different story… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Doesn't most of the stuff from both sides just seem full of generalities, hypocrisy, and narcissism?The thing is, there are really 3 sides here: the blue, the red, and the incels. And for some reason, the red gets lumped in with the incels, which cause a lot of confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 12:24 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] After following TRP advice is getting casual sex easy? Considering the sad state of your competition(most men)You need frame for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 12:17 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] After following TRP advice is getting casual sex easy? Considering the sad state of your competition(most men)I had been lifting for 20 years when I became red, I had good social skills, dressed well, etc. RP only changed my frame. And the difference is night and day. I’m married and I don’t cheat, but when I go out now it regularly happens that girls I talk to get very aggressive with their flirting, like groping my crotch or telling me they want to make a sex tape. I can’t say how well it works if you’re not fit, but I’d say that 20% is looks, the rest is frame and game. You’re going to get really dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/20 07:45 AM |
| 8 | LTR change of attitudeYou don’t give enough details, but on the face of it, it looks like you give too little beta and fail comfort tests. Guys who spin plates don’t give any beta, and they acknowledge that most plates will fall off at some point. When a plate begins asking for more beta and makes scenes, they just next her. You have to give sufficient beta (not the supplicating kind but the good kind that doesn’t hurt your alpha) if you want an LTR to be easy and stable. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 19/03/20 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsI think we fall short when we list out a bunch of tactics based on evo psych without acknowledging the importance of interpersonal and social dynamics. Not saying this was done, just adding this to the well written post above. That wasn't done. This is not some arm chair evo psych theorizing, it is based on experience, and it is supposed to encompass what is important about "interpersonal and social dynamics" within the scope of sexual strategy. If there are other important factors, what are the… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 14/03/20 10:55 AM |
| 2 | Whose game are you winning?Do some selfish shit, be an asshole, create some drama. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 11/03/20 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Whose game are you winning?Alphas don't get shit tested much, I don't see how you'd get tired of it. But you tell me. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 11/03/20 03:29 PM |
| 8 | Whose game are you winning?It doesn't matter. It doesn't even have to be anything you'd recognize as a worthwhile or long-term goal. It can be something stupid, short-sighted and hedonistic. Plenty of alphas are dumb losers. But is has to be yours. As long as you're just "providing more value for her", trying to be the perfect man who fixes the house, makes the money, works out, dresses well, so his wife will think he's an awesome man, you're playing her game and she won't see you as alpha. Because you're not, you're not … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 11/03/20 03:25 PM |
| 26 | Whose game are you winning?This is spot on, man. I call it playing the better beta game. Some guys just get fitter, more productive, see a slight increase in sex, and convince themselves they’re being great leaders. If you’re becoming alpha and building your own frame, what you’ll see is periods of increased sweetness and attraction from her mixed in with periods of hard shit testing, accusing you of being a selfish asshole. And as time goes on, the magnitude of the sweetness and bitchiness increase, until the main event.… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 11/03/20 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Is this sub's purpose just to make observations, or are we supposed to apply it and "solve" something? What's the conclusion to be drawn from these observations? What should be done about them?It's not for observations, it is for arguing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/20 02:45 PM |
| 1 | All the RP anger about “being lied to” is a red herringThis is bullshit. The point isn’t that they lied about liking buff, manly men, nobody doubted that. The lie was that they could also love men for being sweet, respectful, helpful and understanding. A lot of men banked on that being true, and when they find out women only like alphas, that’s when they get angry. That lie is being told a lot, and it is an incredibly evil lie, making men waste years of their life, invest emotionally in a family that they end up losing, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/20 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsBut I'm not the type of Dom that's wants her submission as a response to something I do by "being alpha" through direct domination. Well, you’re not the type of Dom who signals blue either, which you’re suggesting, so you’re about to thread new ground either way ;) Btw, I prefer to only talk when I know what I’m talking about - here I’m just throwing ideas out, so be critical. The way I interpret you wanting to instigate a shit test is that you’re out of ways to signal more alpha than what you’r… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsThe one thing I've noticed as I continue on isn't even that I could be more open or honest at this point. I don't get the point. Exactly. At some point you're signalling all the alpha you can (at the effort you're willing to put in at least), you've told her all you want her to do, there's sufficient good beta. At that point, do you get more by communicating more - and what would you be signalling? Is there any metric on which your relationship's quality would improve, aside from your possible e… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsRelationship strategies are sexual strategies. Anyway, we're splitting hairs. I think we agree on what MRP is about, and how effective communication on this subreddit is as it relates to that (and on r/satellites or r/marketing, effective communication would be something else). | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsI agree it was vague, which is why it probably got away with the more outlandish claims. Part of my goal with my post was to make more stringent definitions, so we could discuss the issue rigorously. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsA lot of MRP is about how you communicate effectively, which is mostly how you signal alpha. There are very specific instructions on how to handle shit tests, game and other similar things. What I tried to do here was give a framework that would let us look at communication and signalling stringently. That's a good tool for people to use in evaluating their own, and for us to discuss if there really is anything missing/wrong in MRP, as was suggested. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsIsn't that what all this D/s stuff is about? Instead of waiting for a shit test to signal stronger alpha and domination, you make her do something unpleasant. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsThis is a great post, Sepean. I think most will think it's a counter to what Blarg wrote about in his post Communication Doesn't Work... or Maybe... But I think it's a greater explanation of the same mental model. I'd been sitting on the ideas behind my post for some time, wanting to write it up - this motivated me to get it done, but it wasn't just for countering Blarg. I tried to make it clear that I think there's a significant difference between what Blarg does and what he wrote. I certainly … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsThe extent of the MRP take on that, as far as I can gather, is that it's not OK to enjoy that. Or as you say, it's an indulgence. I think it's a pretty deep part of the human experience. To put it in the "indulgence" bucket is....limiting. I don't think there's anything wrong with indulging yourself. I'd say a lot of the hard work that people do is exactly so they can indulge themselves. The fact that you're a great swimmer doesn't mean you can't possibly drown. The risk is part of the thrill. A… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Communication and signalsIn the context of MRP, it means working as a part of your sexual strategy. What you do for your personal enjoyment is your business, and that may be effective, irrelevant or counterproductive to sexual strategy. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/03/20 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsI have no idea what you’re saying, are you trying to make a straw man or what is going on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/20 07:53 AM |
| 1 | How do you get a guaranteed long term commitment from a man before sex occurs?I figured, even without looking at post history I wasn’t exactly sittimg with the image of a good girl, trying hard but getting taken advantage of... | /r/MarriedRedPill | 08/03/20 07:51 AM |
| 1 | How do you get a guaranteed long term commitment from a man before sex occurs?Be the sort of woman who a man will want an LTR with, and look for men looking for LTRs. There are no shortcuts, or lie detectors. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 08/03/20 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsLeaders can be alpha. And women can also “swoon” over men for their beta qualities, they have a dual sexual strategy. But leadership isn’t an alpha trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/20 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsThe science there is either backs it or doesn’t contradict it, but there simply isn’t much science on it. You have to mostly rely on people’s experiences for stuff like this, just like a lot of other skills that will benefit you in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/20 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsDo you have a link to peer revied article on why the techniques I learnt in my MMA gym are effective? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsBecause it works in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsAlpha is defined as what women are attracted to. If you want to define that as manhood, that’s up to you. You do what you want with your life, but that doesn’t change the reality of women being attracted to certain traits and not others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsThat you can pay girls to have sex with you doesn’t change sexual dynamics. Some weak guy can pay a guy to get beaten up by him, that doesn’t change what it takes to be a competent fighter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Simple Alpha and Beta DefinitionsWhat TRP calls alpha has almost nothing to do with the “leader of the pack” meaning of the word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: Has this subreddit benefited your life?PPD is like a martial arts forum on “is MMA or aikido better”? It’s only there because there are some seriously misguided people and informed people who like to argue with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:16 PM |
| 0 | Q4A: Has this subreddit benefited your life?hearing women say they would love a guy without those traits, but comparing to my lack of success in dating, just a mind fuck It’s not that much a mind fuck, they just don’t say what they actually want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4A: Has this subreddit benefited your life?No, I come here to argue with bloopers. What could there be to learn here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 08:09 PM |
| 7 | I guess my main event is going to be today.Yeah, classic main event, or close to it. The good days are the real reflection of how she sees your SMV. Everything she says during the main event is bullshit, emotional manipulation and empty threats. A&A, amused mastery, STFU. You don’t fix this by talking sense into her, calming her down or appeasing her - this is about testing your frame, nothing else, nothing more. You fuck up by doubting what every vet here says about main events, or your frame failing under her emotional storm. It sounds… | /r/askMRP | 06/03/20 08:29 PM |
| 8 | I guess my main event is going to be today.You say she has been in a good mood this week. I assume you guys are fucking and she shows clear signs of being attracted with you, mixed in with periods where she thinks you’re the biggest asshole on earth. The good periods have been getting better and better, the bad periods worse and worse. Those are the signs of am impending event. That’s how a girl reacts to a man turning alpha - responding to his increasing SMV while still trying to maintain control of him and testing him to see if his fra… | /r/askMRP | 06/03/20 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Would you be okay with being a girls beta bucks?A man can easily stay alpha and have a good relationship with a woman, he doesn’t have to be beta bucks and get treated like shit. I understand that most women eventually settle down with a man who has low alpha because they can’t hook a guy with both alpha and beta qualities, but that doesn’t mean it is a good deal for the beta bucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Would you be okay with being a girls beta bucks?Women treat BBs as shit. Anyone who thinks that’s worth doing is frankly clueless and self sabotaging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 08:34 AM |
| 2 | Would you be okay with being a girls beta bucks?The thing is, you don’t really get sex as a beta bucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Why is FDS considered good dating “advice”, while TRP was considered bad/sub-optimal?FDS is considered bad dating advice, and TRP is considered good dating advice, so I’m not sure what you mean. I assume you’re listening to people who are clueless and/or pushing an agenda? Would you also take fitness advice from the fat acceptance movement? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 08:31 AM |
| 1 | What percentage of guys on Red Pill do you think actually gets laid?There’s a big percentage who just want to bitch about women, the MRA and incel types, who donkt get laid. Then there are the new guys, still learning. They start from normal sex frequency, then it goes up as they learn more. Of the guys who have followed the advice, who lift, can hold frame and has game, it’s close to 100%. It’s like asking how many in a gym are fit. Pretty much everyone who did what they’re supposed to do - but of course not all do. People are people, even given all the tools l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 08:29 AM |
| 1 | What percentage of guys on Red Pill do you think actually gets laid?Sure, and guys who are fit don’t frequent fitness subs, guys who know history don’t go on history subs, guys who can shoot don’t post on gun subs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Glad you came in too, I really don’t like how everyone else seems to be jumping on this communication bandwagon. I’ve been wanting to write a post on communication for some time and this made me do do it, wrote it up yesterday, stringent stuff so we can see what is what. I’ll proofread it soonish, it got a bit long. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 05/03/20 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Hiding behind "it's an opinion" is bullshit, this is a factual matter, at least in principle. Especially when you claim that MRP is wrong, as OP did, or makes statements about how women think and behave. Then you must expect to be challenged on it, and you better have something to back it up - which OP didn't. I also repeatedly said that we can communicate because we enjoy it, but that is very different than what OP said. There 2 options here: either OP is wrong, or MRP (and me with it) is wrong… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 05/03/20 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...I really don’t think we should ignore his ideas that communication works, that our wives have agency, that it’s fine giving her the reigns, that MRP is wrong. If anyone wrote what he said in plain language he’d be torn a new one, but he speaks to the Disney fantasy and waxes on philosophically in a way that makes people lower their BS filter. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/03/20 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Maybe as specific advice to a specific guy who still has low SMV, but once your girl is attracted to you, of course you just buy the toys and outfits you want her to use. That goes for a lot of the advice you see on this subreddit, it is for noobs. Stuff that works well for alphas just comes off as creepy for guys who aren’t alpha, they have to crawl before they can walk. That doesn’t mean we’re against walking. I mean, damn, you really think we’re against buying sex toys. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/03/20 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...MRPs mantra is dont buy sex shit for your wife It most certainly isn’t. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/03/20 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...I think the whole point of this post is geared toward this false-belief. Fact is, some of these dudes wives may be open to it, they just don't have the know-how to do or express it naturally. Essentially, it's red-pilling your wife. Teaching her how to express her true desires, if they are there. If that was the point of the post, it would have said so, instead of all the “I know it goes against everything on MRP, but I believe in honest and open communication”. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/03/20 06:26 AM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Here the analogy breaks down. They think that being kinky and submissive is just some inherent quality some women have. “Oh you got one of those self levitating 200lbs barbells, that’s how you squat it.” | /r/MarriedRedPill | 01/03/20 07:55 AM |
| 0 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...You should examine the question I posed you which would tell you if there is any merit to claims: what happens if you remove the communication? Does she submit less? Or can your alpha keep her hooked without communication? A further examination would be: What happens if you communicate more? Does she submit more or less? Can you reduce alpha and let increased communication pick up the slack? Does it matter what you communicate? If so, what is it beneficial to communicate and what is not? That’s … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 01/03/20 07:50 AM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Yeah man. And just like with building strength, once your frame is there, the shit other men struggle with is just so effortless. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...I've said it before and I said it in my post. Women aren't mechanical computer programs that if you just found the right inputs into, would work. People are meat robots, that’s just how it is. Which is also something I've said before: Part of what I've learned here is that I've been wrong before, so there's no reason to believe that this time, MRP, is right. Not really sure what you’re saying here? Except it sounds like you got a lot of reservations about the veracity of MRP. There are other guy… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Whatever works for you. But that’s not why it works for her. You got good results in your relationship - that does not mean that everything you do is beneficial, or that your understanding of why is correct. When people feel like making these “maybe MRP didn’t get it entirely right” posts, they really should stop and make sure they didn’t just get correlation and causality mixed up. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...I'm not advising that doing this is alpha. Good. You should lead with that, because it sounds like you think it is. If you are trying to be maximum alpha, if youre even holding alpha on a pedestal, then you have missed a lot of advice this place has been giving out. I’m not trying to be maximum alpha. Like you, I’m alpha enough that I have a ton of leeway to do what I want and still have a submissive, loving wife. But I don’t post about all that other stuff because that’s just me goofing off, it… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...At the end of the day, we work because we both have chosen to give and receive value. You work because you’re alpha. Try dropping all this communication stuff, stop putting effort into the relationship, stop providing value, just be a selfish prick but stay alpha. What will happen? Maybe she’ll bitch about a bit, but just hold frame through it and treat it like a shit test, and she’ll be back to submitting, doing what you want, giving value to you, without you doing anything return but being att… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...If you are looking for mileage or alpha status through communication then I think anyone would have to agree communication will hurt it. It will hurt it regardless. The difference here is, I don't care about keeping track of my alpha ratio. That burden is on her if she is keeping that score. I am who I am. If we don't work, we don't work. Well, you’re giving people advice, so you should be aware. Just because you don’t care, that doesn’t make it alpha. What you want, your ideal behavior, that is… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Is dating inherently uncooperative? (And the implications)Yes. And relationships are non-cooperative too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/20 10:41 AM |
| 5 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Women are a pain in the ass in the same way that squatting 200lbs is hard. For some of us, it’s fucking easy. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...If your SMV is high, you can tell a woman how you feel and she won’t shit all over you. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 08:01 AM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...We’re not telling them half-truths. You’re at a point where you can make your woman do what you want (listen to your feelings). That has zero to do with how you got to the position where you can make her do that. We teach men how to get their women to submit - what they make her do is up to them. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 07:57 AM |
| 4 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Careful thinking that way. She didn’t realize shit - he had frame, so she fell in line. We never heard of any sort of collaboration on MRP, only women submitting to men once they alphaed up. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 07:29 AM |
| 2 | Communication Doesn't Work....or Maybe...Hmm, sounds reasonable om the surface of it, but it really isn’t. Communicating how you feel, especially regarding needs, weaknesses and vulnerabilities, is just universally bad. There is zero mileage in it, it will hurt your alpha. And she will never help you or ease your feelings because of your feelings, or think you’re manly for sharing and communicating. She’ll do it because of the alpha you demonstrated previously. I’d wipe my wife’s ass if she broke both her arms, not because it is sexy b… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/02/20 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Men dont really believe "Sex comes before commitment" or "Sex comes before love" do they?Girls gladly have sex without commitment or love. That’s a fact about their behavior, it’s not something you have to convince a girl of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/20 09:29 AM |
| 1 | If AF/BB exists them why are women having sex with tons of guys who are not alpha?say that all the matters are looks and genetics, therefore, guys with good genetics will always be successful since this outcome has already been predetermined. Looks is say 20% of it, frame and game is way more important. You got yourself a strawman here. Do you think is AF/BB a strategy for men to rationalize their lack of success? Huh? All the plate spinners say AF/BB, you think they lack success? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/20 09:27 AM |
| 14 | Same game, different devilsI like the “can you at any time (given privacy ofc) unzip and she’ll suck your dick” metric. If you’re there, it’s likely everything else works. If you’re not, you probably have obvious weaknesses in your frame. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/02/20 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Same game, different devilsWhy is it that I can I do stupid shit, learn and STFU about it? Do you see me going to askMRP every fucking week and asking dumb fucking questions? And do you see the married vets doing that? It’s not your single status that gives you your edge, it’s your experience and frame. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 27/02/20 10:22 PM |
| 14 | It all came to a headWho would have thought women have a dual sexual strategy and seek both alpha and beta, or that they require more comfort when pregnant? /s Why is my blue pill method of treating her so effective? It is not. Do you think this would work before you went red? It is the combination of alpha and beta that does the trick. If you want a stable relationship, you have to pass comfort tests. | /r/askMRP | 24/02/20 07:22 PM |
| 3 | 80/20 is echo chamber nonsense. Average men don’t have a huge problem getting laid.That’s like saying “average people can make money so I don’t see how the rich can have most of the money” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 08:06 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It’s easy to make a girl fall for you.You get some of the principles of TRP, and find great success. No surprises here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so common for men to think that if a girl is nice to him, she must want him?Because so many men are clueless about women and unacttractive so they never experienced how women act when they want to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 06:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPI thought you converted or something, they way you were writing. Of course they don't need to do it the same way, men and women are different. But any "dating strategy" that doesn't involve self improvement isn't a strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 04:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPYou should try getting past whatever nerve that this hits, and read and think. Dodging selfish assholes who won't commit makes perfect sense. That is not a problem. The issue with FDS, and where it differs from TRP, is the missing focus on self improvement. Getting a good man to commit is a ton easier when you stand out above the other girls he meets, and next to impossible when you don't. That's the red pill way of looking at it. If you girls think you're just fine as you are, good for you. It … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 04:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPHVW don't do that. Know why? Because they have better men who are interested. What you're describing is LVW behavior. The solution is to improve so you can find a better man. He's not going to drop in your lap just because you become more demanding, HVM don't do LVW. So you just shift from lame alphas to lame betas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 02:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPHamfisted shouting at women while dismissing our realities. Look. At. The. Topic. FDS is not the same as TRP. That's the topic. You want a safe space where you can have "your realities" instead of dealing with the real reality where hotter girls get better men, go ahead. But that isn't how TRP does it. We don't tell men that women should love them for who they are, we tell them to get to work on making themselves into a man that hot women are attracted to. Are you really trying to argue that TRP… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 11:59 AM |
| 0 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPAnd that is the difference between TRP and FDS. TRP focuses on making men better, FDS goes "oh I don't want to work hard to make good men like me, let's talk about what I deserve instead". You can make all the excuses you want and blame it on male thirst or whatever - FDS is very different from TRP. If you take the TRP subreddit, remove self improvement, remove the HVMs, so you just have the entitled whiners left, then swap the genders - then you have FDS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 11:44 AM |
| 0 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPYou're talking about overweight women when I am an athlete that is explaining to you that we already know being pretty and fit is important. You may know it, doesn’t mean everybody does. I had been lifting for 20 years when I went red, that doesn’t mean I think “everybody knows to lift”. They don’t. And looking at most women, man they need some advice on exercise, diet and grooming. And that isn’t all. There’s behavioral stuff too that any worthwhile strategy would get into. Only a man would thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 06:39 AM |
| 0 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPwomen don tNEED A SUPPORT GROUP TO NOT HAVE SEX WITH AN UNATTRACTIVE MAN TOO QUICK. Well, that’s what FDS is. When it should also have a self improvement focus, like TRP does. And that’s why the two are different. i said you sound EXACTLY like the FEMALE detractors of TRP It is a valid criticism. It just isn’t true of TRP, though it applies to many sub members. But when it comes to FDS, it is true. Any sexual strategy sub can be labelled as “you just want something better than what you’re gettin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 06:34 AM |
| -1 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPSure, TRP has its share of losers (in fact I stopped going to the main red pill sub years ago because they're in the majority there). But the TRP teachings clearly point out how they're unattractive and what they should be doing to become attractive. And there are guys who follow the advice and get that fun, easy dating life that comes with it. What does FDS do? Tell women that they're fine as they are, and that they should only settle for a man that does everything for them. We know the sort of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 11:43 PM |
| 0 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPExcept I've been with the same woman for 16 years. I was fit, rich, good values. And you know who I picked? A slim, fit, neat, feminine girl. There's no way I would have picked an overweight girl. I live in a wealthy neighborhood, and I can tell you that I see very few overweight, average looking moms at my kids' school. Of course you should vet guys, but without doing your part to attract HVM, you're only getting LVMs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 11:29 PM |
| 0 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPImagine if a bunch of overweight guys sat around and whined about how women should treat them like kings. That's what FDS sounds like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 11:23 PM |
| 0 | How would you explain that average looking guys are able to date beautiful women?Because looks is a much smaller part of what makes a man attractive than what it is for a woman. That hot woman chose the best guy available to her, according to her preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 08:26 PM |
| 1 | QuestionFair enough. But on the other hand, lots of betas put in tons of work and get zero to show for it. | /r/askMRP | 10/02/20 08:10 PM |
| -1 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPWomen have no problem getting men to be sexually attracted to them. Most women are absolutely horrible at attracting men. Have you seen how many overweight, out of shape, short haired, poorly dressed women there are out there? Do you think high value men are going to pick those over the fit, femine girls? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 08:04 PM |
| -2 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPLol, the majority of women needs to do a lot more to be attractive if she wants a great man at her side. They need to be told to go on a diet, exercise, dress and groom well - not what they should demand of men, for some reason they feel plenty entitled already. FDS is a circlejerk, a bunch of entitled women taking about how they deserve a great man without them putting in any effort. Well, surprise, they're not getting a great man unless they look great and can add value to his life, and FDS se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 08:00 PM |
| -1 | CMV: FDS is not the "female equivalent" of TRPCan you give some examples of how FDS seeks to understand what men are attracted to and advice on how those traits can be maximized? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 07:09 PM |
| 2 | QuestionBeing alpha sure fucking feels like a cheat code. It's like how I imagined celebrities had it, just with the caveat you have to talk to them first. | /r/askMRP | 10/02/20 04:04 PM |
| 3 | QuestionRead the sidebar. Actually do it - lift, respond to shit tests with A&A, practice game and dread. Post in OYS, get feedback. Repeat. | /r/askMRP | 10/02/20 01:54 PM |
| 3 | QuestionAnd yes I’m testing the logical basis of these theories to see if they make sense. I don’t take everything at face value. So you’re an expert in female psychology, able to logically deduce what turns them on and what doesn’t? Your wife is submissive to your sexual advances therefore you are an Alpha chad. As I said before, you have your implications backwards. If you’re alpha, your wife will be attracted to you. | /r/askMRP | 10/02/20 12:20 PM |
| 6 | QuestionNo. In general, if A implies B, then not B implies not A. That's one of the most basic rules in logic. If you want examples, you could be having sex because you paid for it, or because your fiance is trying to hook you into being her beta bux. Your lack of reasoning ability aside, you shouldn't waste time on shit like this. It's just intellectual masturbation. What are you hoping to do? Think your way into insight instead of learning and experimenting? Find some logical hole that invalidates the… | /r/askMRP | 10/02/20 11:25 AM |
| 4 | FDS Endorsed by the Wall Street JournalIsn't FDS about settling with a beta bucks that will love you as you are, while TRP is advice on how to improve your SMV so you can bang more and hotter girls? They seem completely different to me, and the FDS ideas - be yourself and men should provide for women - are mainstream while TRP ideas - be better and girls like fit, cocky assholes - are controversial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/20 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Why is there such a high ratio of extremely good looking women willing to do erotic work?You have a really weird standard for knockout women, there are hardly any doing porn, and none are from the west. I really don't think you'd pay them much attention if they weren't acting like porn stars | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/20 07:05 PM |
| 1 | What is the price tag for a wife ?I've been with my wife for 16 years. If you think it isn't alpha that will keep a long term relationship good, you're wrong, and you're not using red pill knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 10:56 PM |
| 1 | What is the price tag for a wife ?Beta game is such a bad idea. Yeah you’ll get a girl, but down the line you’ll get nothing but disrespect and a dead bedroom. Be alpha, attract her with your behavior instead of your money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 10:22 PM |
| 1 | How far would you say self-improvement or "working on yourself" helps in becoming more attractive to women?It makes a huge difference. It’s incredible. You can’t just do random self improvement though. I was always into that, I was fit and rich before and it was nothing compared to what the red pill playbook did, frame and game are huge game changers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Feeling “Flooded”, overloaded with new RP information and scattered about my MAP. Suggestions to simplify?Yeah, none of that is new. It is just what I saw as the most beneficial parts of MRP that would give the most insight, tools and seed for improvement in the first two sessions with someone with zero RP knowledge (along with some general advice on how to get out of the hole they’re in). To give them a fighting chance until they learn more, and to begin growing. | /r/askMRP | 05/02/20 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Fiancee threw a butter knife at meI'm not going to repeat what others have said already, but I will add this: Why the fuck are you telling her to go to the gym to lose weight? You lose weight by burning more calories than you ingest. Going to the gym burns very few calories, much too few to generate an even remotely relevant caloric deficit - and most extra calories burnt are nullified by an increased appetite. You NEED to eat less than you want to lose weight. Period. Count calories, weigh yourself daily, reduce how many calori… | /r/askMRP | 05/02/20 04:48 PM |
| 21 | Feeling “Flooded”, overloaded with new RP information and scattered about my MAP. Suggestions to simplify?I've begun coaching non-red guys in relationship crisis and here's what I start them out with. It's not the end-all be-all of being alpha, but it is a strong starting point. Communication won't help She doesn't see your marriage as a partnership. She's not at the point where she will tell you honestly what you should do to improve the marriage, and she will not listen to or respect your wishes. She's using communication for control and improving her own situation, often to your detriment. Stop t… | /r/askMRP | 05/02/20 04:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Amber Heard audio is typical of how women treat men's grievancesThe issue here really isn't that he got assaulted, that's a minor thing. The issue is all the shit Depp had to go through from the public due to her false accusations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.Tell her she can’t go. If she says she’s going anyway, tell her he considers going cheating and that’s the end of their marriage. This shit isn’t hard. | /r/askMRP | 02/02/20 09:50 AM |
| 6 | Sinking further in the whirlpool. helpWhat I'm not seeing in this post is any mention of lifting, AA, STFU, dread, or cockiness. | /r/askMRP | 02/02/20 07:47 AM |
| 5 | Turned around your DEAD BEDROOM (or have a story about someone who did?)Think of fat people. There are solid, proven, easily accessible methods of losing weight. There are tons of success stories. That is not what they lack. | /r/askMRP | 01/02/20 07:52 AM |
| 4 | Turned around your DEAD BEDROOM (or have a story about someone who did?)The problem with the dead bedrooms sub is that they don’t want to face facts. One of their main rules is “no red pill”. They know perfectly well there’s a solution, they just don’t want to use it. It’s a pity party, where people can join in on a circle jerk about how hard it is, how sad they are and how it is everybody else’s fault. They’re like the fat shaming community - giving them diet advice again won’t help. | /r/askMRP | 01/02/20 07:35 AM |
| 4 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.Yeah, I'm in a good mood. I recently begun doing volunteer work, helping men through crisis. Had a really depressed guy who is now red, positive about the future and returning to work next week. Seeing him today being ready to get on with his life felt good. | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.Why don't you browse around on the subreddit and the sidebar, see if it resonates with you. If not now, then maybe later some shit will happen in your marriage and you'll remember this place. | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.Yeah, probably fucked from his end too, really hard to not be disgusted with a girl who cheats. | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 07:34 PM |
| 3 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.You are free to stay and learn, or you can leave. But the mods here have a very low tolerance for people giving bad advice, you will get banned if you keep it up. | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.And if he got frame and alphaed up she'd change her opinion and set her mind to pleasing him. Women are fickle, they don't have any permanence in their beliefs | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 06:31 PM |
| 7 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.You seem to be new here. We have standards. Read the sidebar instead of giving bad advice. | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 06:24 PM |
| 4 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.He has some good points, especially for men who are weak, depressed, rudderless, etc., he's saying some stuff resonates with them and can help them. But the guy is beta as fuck - a competent beta, but beta nonetheless. When we're talking sexual strategy he is hopeless and clueless. | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 02:59 PM |
| 5 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.I'm not saying I'm sure she didn't cheat - I'm not sure either way. I'm sure she could spin some sort of story about needing to unwind and take a vacation on her own and sell it to him easily. Instead she chose to ask for permission, openly. Which is fucking stupid from a "I just want strange dick in me" tactical POV. So my take is that there's some strong moral/religious stuff in play here, she clearly has issues with him (or god or whatever) seeing her as a cheater, so she's asking permission … | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.You don’t know that. She wants to, and AWALT, but that doesn’t mean she acted on it. | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 11:47 AM |
| 19 | Wife is approaching the wall and wants freedom to do whatever she wants with zero consequences.listened to all of Jordan B Peterson's Podcasts Careful with that. He has some good ideas, but he is completely clueless when it comes to sexual strategy. He thinks it is all about beta game. He does not understand the first thing about dual sexual strategy or alpha. Sex improved significantly, but not where I wanted it to be. [...] Sex was better than before so I was content. Which is it, not what you want or content? I smell weak frame. Everything was looking great. Except the bad sex. How I a… | /r/askMRP | 30/01/20 08:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the Madonna Whore Complex is fucking stupid.they want a girl who's cute, fucks them semi-regularly, and makes dinner. I’d never settle for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men : Would you ever consider taking part on a romantic relationship that doesn't involve sex?Of course not. Anyone who says they would don’t know themselves (or have a serious hormonal or neurological issue). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:40 AM |
| 2 | What a horror show.When you’re well fucked and secure in the knowledge you can easily get other girls, they stop having that power over you. You only think this way because you’re unattractive and thirsty. Romantically, your leg really is broken, that’s why you can’t fight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:35 AM |
| 1 | Most women aren't “Strongly attracted” to their Boyfriend/Husband sexually, they’re just “Minimally attracted”.I’m 42 and what OP describes is exactly what happened to most people I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Most women aren't “Strongly attracted” to their Boyfriend/Husband sexually, they’re just “Minimally attracted”.Power and money is beta game and it really doesn’t turn women on that much. They’d love to land such a man as a husband, but that is different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Most women aren't “Strongly attracted” to their Boyfriend/Husband sexually, they’re just “Minimally attracted”.How so? Alphas with low beta don’t work in LTRs, betas with low alpha have shitty LTRs, men with both good alpha and good beta do great in LTRs. That’s standard red pill, what is different here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:23 AM |
| 3 | Most women aren't “Strongly attracted” to their Boyfriend/Husband sexually, they’re just “Minimally attracted”.What OP describes is exactly what happened for the majority of my friends and acquaintences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:19 AM |
| 4 | Most women aren't “Strongly attracted” to their Boyfriend/Husband sexually, they’re just “Minimally attracted”.This is completely backwards. Attraction only fades away to the degree that someone becomes less attractive. You stop enjoying having sex with someone hot to the same degree you stop enjoying your favorite ice cream or your nice, warm bed, ie. it stays much the same. And relationships based on something other than attraction tend to turn really ugly. The man is extremely unhappy with the lack of sex, love and respect, and the wife hates him and leaves once a better man is lined up or the kids gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 09:13 AM |
| 1 | What do guys consider "fat"?I wouldn’t call BMI 19-20 fat, but I’m not interested in girls who are at that weight. Girls should be fit and slim, not being fat is a ridiculously low bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/20 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Ok, TRP is bad, but how do we keep the young, immature, insecure, shy men away from TRP?TRP (the community) is a toxic cesspool because the men there weren’t taught the lessons of TRP. I did fine with girls in my youth because I was alpha enough and so didn’t form a negative view of women, but many betas and omegas end up despising women because of how they were treated. The solution is to teach young men how women work and what they like in men, not make the men waste years and only get shit in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 09:32 PM |
| 6 | Deny sex for a year? what dread level? *StarfishYou, sir, are a fucking excellent beta. You fix all the stuff, make good money, got in shape, stopped bitching, and don't want to leave even when she's being a shitty wife. Have you considered adding some alpha? Would she question why I stopped asking for sex? Why do you care? Have some frame, man, it doesn't matter what she says or thinks, it matters what you are. | /r/askMRP | 26/01/20 05:50 PM |
| 1 | The No Makeup Makeup Look is Destroying the Dating Market and Hurting WomenWhat do you mean “they waste hours”? Working to attract a partner isn’t a waste, it is a fundamental human activity. Men like women who look sexy, just like women like strong, dominant, rich men. And where high quality men put effort into getting strong, dominant and/or rich, high quality women put effort into their looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 10:35 AM |
| 1 | "RP works tho"We hear plenty of fail rates from guys who can’t make it work. They always have problems with frame and game. It is no different than say learning basketball. The skills, techniques, physique and tactics that work are well understood, and some people are able to learn it more easily than others, some have traits and other skills that apply well to the sport, some turn out to be exceptionally talented at it and other are just too inept or undisciplined to develop real skill. Do you have data on h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 10:30 AM |
| 1 | So if the average young man is lacking "Alpha" traits why are young women sexually attracted to and having sex with their average(beta) boyfriends?Dual sexual strategy. Women seek both alpha and beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 10:22 AM |
| 29 | Wife found out my account in a website and she wants a divorceIt's a shit test and you should ignore or make fun of her. If you know TRP and don't see that, your frame is fucking weak. You need to either read the sidebar, or grow a spine. | /r/askMRP | 21/01/20 07:17 AM |
| 0 | What is the deal with hitting the gym?I was being ironic. The best advice is to lift, that's why everyone says it and keeps saying it. There is nothing strange about good advice being repeated - it would be strange if you got all sorts of different answers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/20 08:41 PM |
| 0 | It gets harder to date after high schooland that nice guys just have to wait till as girls once in their 20s will gradually start appreciating other qualities besides looks, like personality, humor, life goals, etc.. You really should stop believing the shit betas are told to keep them beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/20 07:43 PM |
| 1 | What is the deal with hitting the gym?I'm addressing the (in my opinion) odd and repetitive (mantra-like) usage of this phrase that makes it sound to me like its standing for something else than the literal meaning. Yes, so weird that people keep giving the same advice, why not sometimes tell people to ride a bike or do fencing? They must mean something other than what they’re saying, they can’t possible mean the same thing over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/20 07:40 PM |
| 5 | Need genuine examples for frame and how to hold boundries....First, dread. Does random women you talk to respond to you with IOIs? In party settings with alcohol, do they make strong passes on you like crotch grabs? If not, your frame and game isn't where it should be. And when she doesn't follow instructions, insist and lead her, teach her, start slow, baby steps. If she still refuses, put on your pants and leave the bedroom. | /r/askMRP | 20/01/20 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Negotiating desire vs. stating your needsNo, new stuff have usually required some breaking in. But once she's used to something, that and things similar to it are easy. After the noob phase, it's mostly been an issue of her being shy, embarrased, and worried about doing it wrong, and letting her get comfortable with that. It's more an issue with insecurity than compliance. | /r/askMRP | 20/01/20 03:20 PM |
| 11 | How do you deal with the crazy?She's not crazy, she's testing your frame. That's how you should think of it. You pass by holding frame, or at least signalling frame. Don't try to make her see sense or explain yourself, that is not what this is about. | /r/askMRP | 19/01/20 02:01 PM |
| 7 | Negotiating desire vs. stating your needsThis is a complete non-issue that you should stop thinking about. You build desire and attraction by being alpha. Period. When we say "don't negotiate desire", we mean that you shouldn't think there is any mileage in offering to do the dishes or a bigger house or whatever, it won't turn her on (and to make it worse, negotiating can easily come across as very weak). You should exclusively focus on being alpha if you want hot sex. That's it. Now tell her what you want her to do. If you're alpha en… | /r/askMRP | 17/01/20 07:56 AM |
| 5 | What has made your Red Pill Marriage successful with your partner?What specific things do you do or your partner does that makes the dynamic work so well? I do what the sidebar says. She does this thing with her tongue. Have you had to push/pull tactics to show her you're in charge? How often? I just engage when she’s fun and don’t when she’s not. I’m not really concerned with showing her anything. I'm curious how Red Pill marriage is. She’s sweet, submissive and kinky now. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 14/01/20 11:15 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)Are you saying you read just fine but you're making stuff up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 05:17 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)Most men I know are rich, powerful, charismatic and have hot wives who treats them poorly, will only rarely fuck and never with enthusiasm. It's the norm. That's why people say "it is natural that attraction fades in an LTR" and similar stuff. Most relationships turn bad because the man isn't attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 05:14 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)That's the stuff that really works though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 04:41 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)Your reading comprehension is obviously quite low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 04:40 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)Dude, visit the deadbedroom subreddit if you think just getting a wife is enough. You have to able to turn your woman on, or you're going to be miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 04:36 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)I'm sure you're much more aware of my motivations than I am. As for my GF, she hates drama and attention. I was pushing her to post on RPW, in the hopes she could benefit from it like MRP benefitted me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 04:21 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)You recall incorrectly. I have chosen to share the worst crisises of my relationship on MRP because the community is so insightful, and to help other men also facing issues at home. You bloopers like to take those examples and present them as representative of our entire relationship, and pretend everything else I write didn’t happen. The woman I see every day is smiling, energetic, snuggles up to me, french kisses, gives enthusiastic blowjobs, is up for sex anytime. So your idea of dysfunction … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 12:53 PM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)severe BPD Not even remotely close. physically attack you Sort of, but that sounds so drastic. I’m a very strong MMA trained 180lbs man, she’s a 99lbs woman, it’s not like I can’t control her when she tries to scratch me or whatever, and it’s happened say 4 times in 16 years. All of them complete non-events. I’d probably freak out more often too if it wouldn’t hurt people, but I can only slap the table. If she wanted to hurt me or abuse me she’d stab me from behind or whatever, so I wouldn’t rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 12:36 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)Nah, more that LTRs and family are natural for many men, and that RP works exceptionally well in that situation too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 10:04 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)The main difference is that TRP says you shouldn’t listen when women say they want you to be beta, that any sort of criticism should be met with ridicule, and that you should be dominant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 10:03 AM |
| 0 | What do you think about this strategy to improve dating success? (Red Pill alternative)Most long term relationships, the girl wants way less sex than the guy does and she treats him without respect. Compare that to the red pill, where you can either spin plates or have a submissive, loving, kinky girlfriend/wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 09:59 AM |
| 1 | How do you manage to find time for sex when you’re married and have a baby?The windows of opportunity narrow a lot, that's the main thing. So you'll often have to settle for quickies rather than elaborate sessions, and you can't do it just when you feel like it. Sleep deprivation also takes the top off your sex drive. So it is more a loss of quality than frequency. If the man is beta, it is different of course, then they can't "find the time". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 11:13 PM |
| 6 | What would you do if your LTR/fiance/wife told her friend you weren't "her type"?I think you’re reading too much into this. Pretty much none of us are the most alpha, most jacked man. And being that usually comes with real assholeness and so low beta that they’re not LTR material. Being high alpha is plenty fine, you don’t have to be extreme alpha. It is not much different than how my ideal ONS girl is way too dumb, slutty and have too big implants to be the mother of my children or join me for social events. The question is, are you high alpha? | /r/askMRP | 11/01/20 09:44 PM |
| 2 | Deeper connectionDon’t listen to your wife. | /r/askMRP | 03/01/20 11:29 PM |
| 6 | How Do You Guys Even Trust Your Girl?The guys with higher SMV are banging 20 year old models, I don't see the worry here. | /r/askMRP | 30/12/19 05:34 PM |
| 1 | If LTRs are bad for men why do most studies say they are happier than single men?You need to differentiate between lonely single men and players. Also, most men in relationships expect extremely little so they report being happy. Expectations matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/19 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Who are we measuring ourselves to?Your whole outlook seems wrong. Being confident and thinking highly of yourself is great but you absolutely have to couple it with an intense focus on what you could do better. Most people stall in their progress because they don’t constantly seek to improve. You should take pride in how you constantly learn more, understand deeper, find things that can be improved and work consistently to be better - and very little else. Take lifting. Once all the beginner advice is out of the way, the number … | /r/askMRP | 24/12/19 12:51 PM |
| 9 | Nice guy behaviour?High self esteeem, performance anxiety, rarely feels negative emotions, poor access to details of childhood memories, little need for intimacy, is annoyed by and ignores emotional demands from others. In attachment theory it is classed as being dismissive avoidant. | /r/askMRP | 24/12/19 11:02 AM |
| 7 | Nice guy behaviour?You’re probably dismissive avoidant. | /r/askMRP | 24/12/19 10:43 AM |
| 17 | SparkAfter 7 years the females tend to get bored and quit wanting sex as much That’s a myth that betas stick to so they don’t have to face how much they suck. | /r/askMRP | 24/12/19 12:23 AM |
| 4 | Myth about "female nature" and hypergamyTRP is sexual strategy for men, so it describes how women behave. There is no need to include “men do this too” everywhere. The description of women’s behavior is there because it is relevant to sexual strategy, not to make women look bad or whatever it is you think is going on. Let’s take the inferior physical strength of females. How many times is that brought up in TRP guides? Almost never, because it isn’t relevant to sexual strategy. That’s what TRP is about, it is not about highlighting th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Myth about "female nature" and hypergamyDo you really think that men don’t know that men want the hottest girls they can find? And besides, TRP is sexual strategy for men so it describes how women behave. It isn’t concerned with describing men. You don’t educate car mechanics on fishing either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 01:41 PM |
| 3 | Are guys really attracted to most females?You can’t just say “guys”. Losers have really low standards, alphas are usually much more picky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 10:35 AM |
| 2 | Why do quite many red pillers seem incapable to love?The saddest thing would be to love someone who doesn’t want to have sex. Do you even understand why women are with men they don’t want to have sex with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 10:33 AM |
| 45 | Myth about "female nature" and hypergamy“Men do it too” doesn’t make it a myth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/19 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Is Keto good for athletes?Keto isn’t zero carbs. It is low enough carbs that your body goes into ketosis. You can (and should) eat some high GI carbs pre-workout, it won’t drop you out of ketosis and will power your workout better. | /r/askMRP | 18/12/19 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Is Keto good for athletes?I always supplement with protein powder when I'm cutting. It just makes it way easier to hit your targets. | /r/askMRP | 18/12/19 11:48 AM |
| 10 | Is Keto good for athletes?My cardio suffers on keto, even when carb loading pre-workout (which you should do). It's not to the degree that I couldn't do martial arts, so unless you're very serious about your hockey, I'd say losing weight is more important. The main benefit of keto is that it is easier for some people. I did not find it particularly easy, so it wasn't for me. There are no short cuts to weight loss - you have to restrict your caloric intake, that's it. The main benefit of various methods is that they reduc… | /r/askMRP | 18/12/19 11:10 AM |
| 4 | How to minimize risks of divorce?You are missing the biggest source of risk of not just divorce but also being treated like shit in your marriage: you being unattractive. This is something that is almost entirely in your control. Read the sidebar, become and stay alpha. If you’re her best option, she is unlikely to leave, and she’ll be pleasant company. You need to become alpha, spin plates, develop abundance mentality. Only then will you be ready for an LTR - the way you’re thinking now, you’ll get completely rolled over by a … | /r/askMRP | 18/12/19 07:24 AM |
| 5 | How to minimize risks of divorce?The only way to reduce risk is to not take it That is complete nonsense, of course you can reduce the risk. | /r/askMRP | 18/12/19 07:20 AM |
| 1 | [Q4M] How effective is marriage counseling?Lol, I’ve been called out 3 times on TBP as about to be divorced, they are completely clueless. Divorce is rare, and when it happens it is to new guys who never got going before it hit them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Do any of you give a shit about sexy lingerie?It’s great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 06:15 AM |
| 1 | [Q4M] How effective is marriage counseling?MRP. Proven system, high success rate, and usually even makes he marriage way, way better than it ever was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 06:14 AM |
| 8 | [Q4M] How effective is marriage counseling?I’ve been to counselling. Didn’t work, at all. It was about communication and negotiation, which isn’t the problem in any marriage I heard of. MRP gets it, the problems stems from lack of attraction. Become attractive, and the problems disappear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notionThe issue isn’t “men’s thirst”, it is the short supply of attractive men. The majority of women will have to settle with low value men. And good luck competing with young girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/19 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notionHa, no. Slightly less, maybe. But I don’t see the majority of women staying single forever, especially not post wall when the interest from men decline sharply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/19 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notionYou have to drop this idea that it is just about the act. The person matters. Do you like blowjobs? Also from a fat girl? An 80 year old woman? A man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/19 06:36 PM |
| 0 | Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notionIt’s what a lot of women do. Attractive men who are willing to commit are in short supply, only the highest SMV women can get them. So most settle for more or less unattractive husbands. The point is to get a family and a provider, not to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/19 06:33 PM |
| -1 | Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notionSure, but imagine you had to. You’d get it over with quickly, and not feel inclined to do something extra for your partner. That’s how women do it when they seek to get their beta bucks hooked. Once they’re married with kids, she doesn’t have to fuck him to keep him around, so she does what you’d do - she stops fucking, the classic dead bedroom situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/19 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notionNow imagine having a partner you’re not sexually attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/19 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP - Can a seasoned TRP please explain the 'she won't do anal because you'require low value' notionYou really can’t imagine that there are things you like doimg with/for/to some people but not others? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/19 01:30 PM |
| 0 | Why do Boomers and Gen X men honestly think Millennial and Gen Z women want to date them? The “Ok Boomer” meme came about because we literally can’t stand you.Everyone wants to be a millionaire. If you’re a top lawyer or whatever, that’s easy. If you’re an average guy, it is very hard but a lot of them feel entitled to it. It is no differemt with pulling young girls. Easy if you’re alpha, hard if you’re not. You really shouldn’t lump all men in the same boat, we’re a vaired bunch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Why do guys not like girls for their personalities?Because that’s how men are wired. Women are wired differently. I’m sure there are good evopsych explanations for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:29 AM |
| 4 | r/femaledatingstrategy posts will be removed until Monday.TRP and FDS have very few similarities. TRP is focused on self improvement so you can attract hot girls. FDS seems to be “you’re so fine girl, so find a beta and demand everything from him”. The male equivalent of FDS would be “don’t improve, just find a girl 2-3 SMV points below you and throw her out if she doesn’t worship you”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:23 AM |
| 2 | Would you consider Donald Trump to be an Alpha Male?An alpha male, by definition, is a male who leads other males, is responsible for protecting the group, has access to resources. Lol no, that’s not even remotely close to what is called alpha in TRP. Alpha traits are what women find attractive in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?What you’re describing isn’t the TRP alpha. Alpha is literally defined as traits that women find sexually attractive. It is not to be confused with the mainstream definition of alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Do MRP members advocate for decades long monogamous LTRs/Marriages or it just the case that everyone on here found TRP too late and were already trapped?I’m only opposed to marriage if it puts you at a disadvantage. That is not the case where I live. I’m actually not married because it would be a huge tax risk for our family. Our assets are mostly in her name (financial crisis aftermath), and being unmarried I can’t get hold of much of it if we split up, so I’m way worse off than married guys. All else being equal, with a solid and enforcable prenup and reasonable postup division, I’m more for marriage than against it. Rituals and symbolism matt… | /r/askMRP | 13/12/19 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?Alpha and beta relates to sexual strategy, it has nothing directly to do with office politics or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 07:04 PM |
| 2 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?We don’t use the word attractive in the same way. When a woman wants a beta for his resources and services but doesn’t want to have sex with him, in TRP we don’t consider him attractive. But we don’t disagree that women do seek out beta men for LTRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 07:01 PM |
| 3 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?I know a lot of men like that. Been one of them too. Got a hot wife, had kids, turns out she doesn't want to have sex anymore. You can get a hot girl with beta, but she'll stop fucking you first chance she gets and begin treating you like shit. You shouldn't assume relationships are happy, a lot of them aren't. You have to bring alpha if you want to turn her on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:57 AM |
| 2 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?That is why the whole Alpha / Beta dichotomy is Spergie nonsense. There is no such thing as a pure "Alpha" man or Beta man. Likewise, there are many traits that don't even fall into those categories. It's a good that TRP doesn't say there is a dichotomy. Alpha and beta are traits, and they're on a scale, and you can have a mix. Sure, we can say that a guy is alpha (ie. has many strong alpha traits) or beta (usually describing a guy who lacks alpha traits), but nobody thinks it is a binary thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:53 AM |
| 2 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?Having money = alpha Nope. Money has nothing to do with being alpha. You can be alpha with it, you can be alpha without it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?That doesn't apply when you're doing the nuclear family thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:48 AM |
| 2 | Is the "beta bucks" ALPHA in disguise?That you think they're great men doesn't mean they're attractive to women. The qualities you admire in men just doesn't turn women on. I'm early 40s and I live in a very expensive area. There's lots of very successful, rich, powerful, competent men here. And most of them get treated like shit by their wives. I was like that once, too. By all means, go out and be that sort of man if you want to. There are great upsides to it. But it won't get you love, respect and sex. You need to be alpha for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/19 08:46 AM |
| 11 | Do MRP members advocate for decades long monogamous LTRs/Marriages or it just the case that everyone on here found TRP too late and were already trapped?1) Do MRP members advocate for decades long monogamous LTRs/Marriages or it just the case that everyone on here found TRP too late and were already trapped? Go 20 years back in time and give me RP knowledge, I’d still want kids, and to raise them in a nuclear family. So no, it is not just about being trapped. 2) Is my best option to just keep the relationship going but reduce the effort I put into it while I read and work my ass off in other areas of my life for the next 6-12 months and then re-… | /r/askMRP | 13/12/19 06:29 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill theory is extremely Americanised, and thus not really useful if you are from somewhere else.The first few years of Red Pill was all about self-improvement, practical advice and game. A few years ago however, Red Pill community was overtaken by incéls, near-incéls and Black Pills in disguise. It went from advice on Game, to claiming Game is impossible. From practical advice on OLD to decrying OLD altogether. The red pill didn’t change. The subreddit became flooded with incels and wannabes, but those guys aren’t red and they don’t define the red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 07:15 PM |
| 16 | Stop Hamstering that your Wife is NutsI'm one of the guys with a nuts wife. She's not fucking nuts, just nuts. I made posts on how to handle wives with her issues - wives can be nuts, really. And I endorse OP's message. Because it doesn't matter that much that she's nuts. MRP still applies. It's the same shit that will turn her on, it's the same shit that will make her submit and respect you. And that's the basis of a solid relationship. My wife does have her particular ways of blowing up that has to do with her type of nuttiness. S… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 12/12/19 08:36 AM |
| 17 | How Screwed am I? How to escape from hell?Read. The. Sidebar. You seem to think your legal and financial situation is relevant to how your wife threats you. It isn't. Stop thinking like that. Your wife's treatment of you is a reflection of your alpha - it's about looks, confidence, being calm and unaffected by her shit, being cocky and dominant. All that stuff you can do if you're shit poor. You're not in this jam because of your finances. It's your behavior. And your behavior can get you out of it, for free. So read the sidebar, do wha… | /r/askMRP | 12/12/19 08:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.You are the only person who suggests using plate spinning strategies for LTRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.Well, mr genius, some guys aren’t as smart. That doesn’t make it wrong. And there is one more thing though: shit testing. Women say they want X from you to love and respect you, but if you take them seriously and give them X, they stop respecting and being attracted to you. This is where a lot of men go wrong, men who are fit and competent, but who simply make the mistake of listening to their women and ruin their relationship. This where TRP really makes a difference, by describing shit testing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.You have to be more precise in your terms - though I suspect you’re loose with them intentionally so you can pick and choose as it suits you. TRP as a sexual strategy understands the psychology of female attraction and how to effectively manipulate it. It encompasses ONS, plate spinning, LTRs, etc. Some subreddits focus more on one aspect over the other. The main subreddit mostly advocates plate spinning, though there are several members and contributors in LTRs. The MRP subreddit focuses on LTR… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:15 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.It doesn’t. Plate spinning strategies shouldn’t be used for an LTR, but TRP isn’t just plate spinning. There are red strategies for LTRs, for example as described on the MRP subreddit. You know about MRP, you mentioned it in your OP. Yet you pretend being red is only about spinning plates. Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 07:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.TRP advocates plate spinning as an effective strategy for getting lots of sex with little effort, which is the goal for many young men. But lots of red pill men want an LTR, they want a family. This is something you know perfectly well, and you know there are red solutions for that too. You even claim to have read lots of Rollo, a married man. Why do you pretend you don’t know these things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 06:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.That's not TRP. That's plate spinning. Lots of red pill men are in committed relationships. I'm sure you know this, so why do you say this nonsense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 02:19 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.I did read the OP, and I responded to it by refuting all of it. In your OP, you seem to be unaware of basic TRP teachings like female dual sexual strategy, and likely for the same reason you are unaware of what MRP actually teaches. The red pill has simply never said that women don't want beta. Women have a dual sexual strategy, and I have no idea how you could have studied TRP even superficially and have missed this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 02:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.But this is what TRP and MRP have always been saying. And if you accept that, it completely Changes Your View. So it actually happened? Someone had their view changed on PPD? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 01:28 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.TRP works great for relationships. Women don't just need alpha, they need beta too and TRP acknowledges this (ie. the dual female sexual strategy). Plate spinning doesn't bother giving beta and just accept that plates will eventually fall off, and get replaced with a new one. MRP is focused on lasting relationship and recommend that you pass comfort tests and give some of the good beta traits like providing, handling shit, etc. If you aren't alpha, a woman loses attraction and respect. If you do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 12:47 PM |
| 8 | So, you decided to try trying eh?Just breathing gets your oxygen saturation to 100%. Those breathing exercises don’t do jack for that. What they do is reduce CO2 levels, and that lets you hold your breath longer because your breathing reflex triggers on high CO2 blood levels rather than low oxygen levels. That’s why you can hold your breath until you pass out from lack of oxygen when you’ve done them. Maybe there’s some mental benefit from doing them, it certainly has nothing to do with oxygen levels. Blood leaving the lungs is… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/12/19 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Resenting some physical characteristics in a plate before the upgrade, when to pull the trigger?Wait, you want me to tell you if curls are a deal breaker for you? | /r/askMRP | 09/12/19 01:34 PM |
| 6 | Would trp tactics work if a girl used them on men?The main point of TRP/PUA is not to deflate confidence of the target, it is to signal frame and options. Those things don’t matter to men, and it could even lower a girl’s value. A dominant, cocky girl who fucks around, that’s not what a high value man wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/19 11:50 AM |
| 8 | Would trp tactics work if a girl used them on men?No. TRP is tailored to work on women, and men and women are different. But there are things (some similar to TRP, others different) that women can do to become very attractive to men and easily manipulate them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/19 08:46 AM |
| 3 | Wife wants “space”Question: How do I best give my wife the space she is asking for, provide comfort that I am “here”, and still hold frame and be an independent attractive man? Is it possible to rebuild trust? Stop listening to your wife. She doesn’t give you instructions on how to make your relationship work, most of the time it is just shit testing. You decide what you want to do. You take responsibility, you choose the direction. If you become alpha, she’ll be attracted to you and love you, even if she doesn’t… | /r/askMRP | 05/12/19 07:30 PM |
| 2 | RP Men of this sub: Are you actually successful and/or experienced romantically and sexually?When I met my wife, I was in great shape, great job, good social skills, and landed a great looking girl. But I was beta - a high quality beta, but I believed in loyalty, respect and communication. Sex wasn't amazing, but it was ok, and she was hot. When we had kids, it turned to utter shit. Sex dwindled down to almost nothing, when it was there she seemed either bored or disgusted. It was horrible. On top, lots of disrespect and fighting. Then I found the red pill. A few months in, we were havi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/19 02:25 PM |
| 1 | The Politics of the Manosphere, Part 1. Yes, The Red Pill is PoliticalMake your own subreddit, set to private. Post your stuff there first, then when you’re happy edit and copy (that way you get the markdown codes) . | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/19 08:55 PM |
| 6 | Asking for alpha adviceSo me I'm a guy who likes to weight lift dabbles in martial arts and is a handy man so I'm not some pushover physically but emotionally I can be only to please. Too bad that the emotional side of it is 80%. Small guys with frame got a ton more going for them than big guys without it. And you’re listening to this dick size crap, ffs your problem is your lack of frame. If you had a big dick, it would be the exact same scenario except she’d hamster some other reason for her leaving. It sounds like … | /r/askMRP | 02/12/19 07:43 AM |
| 2 | Help dealing with withdrawn checked-out and angry wifeYour frame is weak so she finds stuff to hit you on the head with. If those two incidents hadn’t happened she’d be acting the same but using other stuff to justify it. If you alpha up, she’ll stop bitching about it. | /r/askMRP | 02/12/19 05:56 AM |
| 2 | Help dealing with withdrawn checked-out and angry wifeI’m not saying your wife isn’t BPD/NPD, but there’s a BPD crowd here who repeatedly have told me my wife is BPD even though she clearly isn’t. Look into it, sure. But be very careful following the advice of anyone who says anything other than “sidebar and she’ll fuck you and respect you”. The guys who had BDP wives see them everywhere, the guys who divorced thinks you can’t avoid divorce, etc. | /r/askMRP | 02/12/19 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Help dealing with withdrawn checked-out and angry wifeNone of what I wrote is going rambo. | /r/askMRP | 02/12/19 05:33 AM |
| 4 | Help dealing with withdrawn checked-out and angry wifeThe last couple cycles of this I try to provide comfort and end up caving to some of her demands to restore the peace. She comes back to the bedroom, we fuck once or twice, until the whole cycle repeats again after a few weeks of sexual denials and ramping up withdrawal of attention & dread. Please help me see what I'm doing wrong and how I can break out of this loop. She’s being shitty, and instead of STFU, A&A and AM, you give her comfort. You should hold frame, but cave to her demands. Re-rea… | /r/askMRP | 01/12/19 06:22 PM |
| 5 | Hiring Wife?I know this sounds like beta qualities but I assure you I feel I needed to fulfill the provider role before improving my other discrepancies Yeah, that sounds beta as fuck. You making money and providing won't make your frame stronger, it won't make you alpha, it won't help your game. You'll be a better beta, that's all. Alpha is all you, only you. You don't get help from your account balance or anything else. Once you fix this money issue, she'll be bitching about something else. You think rich… | /r/askMRP | 29/11/19 11:00 PM |
| 8 | Hiring Wife?I would fuck her whenever nobody is around (that's part of the job description) Hahaha. You can't make deals with your wife, dude. if she works as hard as she does elsewhere, she would be a benefit. Her current boss has leverage that you don't. It's a very different situation you're walking into here. She has to be self motivated to work well for you. Is she the sort of person who can't do half assed work? What about getting along with coworkers? You say she's been hysterical in front of them, t… | /r/askMRP | 29/11/19 03:28 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RPM] What’s with the homophobia in the RP community?There isn't, you're imagining things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/19 09:48 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RPM] What’s with the homophobia in the RP community?MGTOW aren't red pill though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/19 09:40 PM |
| 3 | Am I irredeemable?Maybe you are irredeemable. I don’t know what you will decide. Maybe you’ll seek deeper into despair. Maybe you’ll decide to do just one little thing to make your life better, and then another tomorrow, and next week something just a big better, and a year from now all those small steps could add up to you being a halfway decent man. You already made a post here. That’s a good first step. Maybe order a book from the sidebar, go to a gym and lift very small weights for 45 minutes. Or stare at the… | /r/askMRP | 25/11/19 05:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There’s nothing wrong with sexually objectifying women, or objectifying people in generalI think what OP is trying to say is that women shouldn't expect the benefits of attention that befalls sexually objectified women if they don't want be objectified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/19 08:07 PM |
| 26 | Why is it that most RP'ers are ardent supporters of evolutionary psychology?I read a lot of behavorial economy, they bring up evo psych all the time. Studies of animal behavior bring it up. Etc. It is used all the time in fact based areas, because it fits the facts. Conversely, you don't hear any of it in progressive fields like gender studies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/19 08:04 PM |
| 2 | What should be done? You all seem to have made observations, some that anger you. But what should be done about them?This is the sort of thinking that keeps people on their asses and fantasizing about shit, instead of doing something to make themselves and their lives better. This whole state of affairs isn’t even half bad if you just own your shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/19 07:02 AM |
| 2 | what's your experience with the mental load?The main reason is that women micromanage other people’s work. When a boss does that it is bad enough, it removes the sense of responsibility from the employees. When a woman does it in the home, where she doesn’t have authority, the result is that she just gets to do it herself. And notice how this only happens with the laundry and cooking. Car service and whatnot, all the stuff she doesn’t try to micromanage, that doesn’t go on her “mental load”. It’s just poor teamwork skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/19 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Where would you place yourself on the 1-10 scale of attractiveness, and why? how does it influence your ideas about TRP?I can’t tell when or who, most girls have some self control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/19 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Where would you place yourself on the 1-10 scale of attractiveness, and why? how does it influence your ideas about TRP?What do you mean, "stopping things"? Leaving? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 11:00 PM |
| 5 | Why is a woman seen as worthless if she is ugly?A ugly woman is like a man. You don’t get free passes, you don’t have people going out of their way to accomodate you. You have to provide value, show competence and be entertaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Where would you place yourself on the 1-10 scale of attractiveness, and why? how does it influence your ideas about TRP?No, she’s very jealous. I’m not really ok with it either, I mostly just go home when a girl gets too pushy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 07:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men should rate their own attractiveness as binary instead of 1-10There is absolutely a scale, and the more attractive you are, the better reaction you get. There’s certainly a difference between being just so attractive that she’ll consider you to being so attractive she’ll begin actively trying to turn you on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 03:51 PM |
| 2 | CMV: RPers who claim they were “lied to” about what women find attractive reflect common and understandable misconceptions shared by many young men. However, it’s a myth that these misunderstandings are the mainstream “Blue Pill” position.Ok, I have no idea what you were trying to say then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 03:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: RPers who claim they were “lied to” about what women find attractive reflect common and understandable misconceptions shared by many young men. However, it’s a myth that these misunderstandings are the mainstream “Blue Pill” position.What I am actually saying is your partner sounds miserable and staying is a choice. Well, when she's posted it was mostly because she was miserable - either enraged with jealousy, or worried I'd leave her. I don't know why you assume it is always like that. And even with that, she wrote stuff like I love him and I do want to make him the happiest man alive - I want to be his sexual dream girl. I don't know how you can read something than that and conclude my wife doesn't love me or isn't submiss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Where would you place yourself on the 1-10 scale of attractiveness, and why? how does it influence your ideas about TRP?I put my pictures on r/rateme a few years ago and got 7.5-8.5. I'm not super good looking and I'm early 40s, but I dress and groom well, and I'm very strong from decades of lifting. Frame and game is super tight though. Once I start talking to a girl, it often ends up with her groping my crotch, being seriously inappropriate right in front of my wife, offering to shoot a sex tape, to name a few examples. My wife is 100% sexually submissive, with a signed contract spelling out the details. I don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 03:20 PM |
| 5 | CMV: RPers who claim they were “lied to” about what women find attractive reflect common and understandable misconceptions shared by many young men. However, it’s a myth that these misunderstandings are the mainstream “Blue Pill” position.If you think most men are red pilled, you either don't know many men, or you have a very limited understanding of what the red pill. Most men are so fucking beta you wouldn't believe it and they're close to clueless about what women want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 03:05 PM |
| 3 | CMV: RPers who claim they were “lied to” about what women find attractive reflect common and understandable misconceptions shared by many young men. However, it’s a myth that these misunderstandings are the mainstream “Blue Pill” position.I never claimed it was drama free, and I never put any effort into hiding it from reddit. I don't know how to magically make every issue you can have disappear. You don't think you can have a fight with someone you're attracted to? Is that what you're saying? The reality is that attraction is what makes you recover from the aftermath of fights. I think it is 5 times TBP has declared my marriage over, yet somehow she stays dedicated and submissive, even desperately wanting to have more children w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 03:03 PM |
| 3 | CMV: RPers who claim they were “lied to” about what women find attractive reflect common and understandable misconceptions shared by many young men. However, it’s a myth that these misunderstandings are the mainstream “Blue Pill” position.Just the standard stuff, frame and game. Not listening to her but instead teasing her, being cocky and dominant, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:34 PM |
| 1 | How are you with your female *friends*?1.) Do you think men in women can ever be just friends? If not, why? What about if one, or both of you are in a happy relationship? Not really - though I guess there are some girly men who actually like hanging out with women. But mostly, men have a sexual interest. 2.) Do you have female friends? If yes, what % of your regular friend group are females? I'm early forties and most of our friends are a couple's deal, so half are women. Mostly, the men talk in one group and the women in another. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 09:35 AM |
| 8 | CMV: RPers who claim they were “lied to” about what women find attractive reflect common and understandable misconceptions shared by many young men. However, it’s a myth that these misunderstandings are the mainstream “Blue Pill” position.Well, I can describe my own experience. After we had kids, our relationship went to shit. Mostly a dead bedroom, the rare sex we had was of very low quality, and lots of generel disrespect and contempt. She always said she needed to be comforted more, needed me to do more in the home and with the family, needed to be understood and appreciated. So I did that, it didn't work. I read a ton of advice books, we tried some counselling, always the same shit. Communicate better, share feelings, what is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Women are just as horny as men. It's just that women don't show this to low value men.No, it’s just some fun shit to talk and think about. Look at how they behave in the real world if you want proof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 06:54 PM |
| 3 | Why Do We Have Sex?I have sex because I want to. It's not much different than how I feel about ice cream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Men need to have an honest discussion about male nature.Hilarious that the red pill treats women as complicated or deceptive creatures, even though men are equally as complicated or deceptive. It's a sexual strategy. The target's behavior is described to execute an efficient strategy, it isn't a moral statement relative to men and it isn't implied that men are better or worse. I personally think these are much better solutions than just lamenting about how shallow women are. Wtf do you mean "just lamenting"? I'm sure you know perfectly well that TRP … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 05:28 PM |
| 5 | Men need to have an honest discussion about male nature.She doesn't even reply to counterpoints or questions asked. She has zero intent on even discussing anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Women are just as horny as men. It's just that women don't show this to low value men.so the result is women who are just as horny as men being held back by a subconscious fear of getting pregnant? No, I don't think it is fear-based. I think that in "ancient times", women who were attracted to and slept with low quality men who wouldn't commit gave birth to weak babies and lacked the resources to protect and nurture them. The evolutionary pressures greatly favored women who were only attracted to high quality men and/or demanded commitment from them. It's just evolution, and the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 03:44 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?of course that isn’t the problem. Even if they can’t describe it exactly, they could try, get it in the right direction. Heck, the guys at TRP manage to describe it precisely enouh that guys can easily go out and spin plates. Women can’t manage that? And what they do so is more like the polar opposite. They tell men to behave in ways that actually turn them off. Just because they can’t verbalize it right, they somehow oops say the exact opposite? They can’t even point to guys that they think are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Good advice comes from happy people: Vet the relevant subs for happinessThat's just strange, because this sub is about red pill vs blue pill. Unless his point is that those subs are blue, which makes sort of sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Good advice comes from happy people: Vet the relevant subs for happinessWell, I wasn't red pill back then. But I wanted kids, and to raise them in a nuclear family with one woman who I love. And that's not a problem if you're alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Good advice comes from happy people: Vet the relevant subs for happinessThat doesn't help anything - being alpha does. Pre-RP, we had a quite dead bedroom since we got kids, it was horrible. After the red pill, she's become loving, submissive and horny, she's way better than even when we met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:37 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?But women don't tell men their partners they want strong men, they tell them they want care, gifts, comfort, appreciation, blah blah. It's anyone's guess if they don't know what they want, or if they lie about it. But they certainly don't say it - they say something closer to the opposite. The benign interpretation is that they don't know what they want. The malicious one is that they know what they want but that they're lying, causing their partner great emotional harm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:20 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?This is a great example of not knowing what you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:16 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts when you hear people say “Women dont know what they want”?It's an open question if women know what they want. But they certainly only rarely say what they want. Look at all the miserable dead bedroom relationships where the man does what she says, then he finds the red pill, alphas up and stops listening to her, and suddenly she's all horny, loving and submissive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:15 AM |
| 3 | Good advice comes from happy people: Vet the relevant subs for happinessBut I cannot wrap my head around the fact that there are many people who band together based on their incapability to solve a problem. I won't name any subs. What are you talking about? I can't be the red pill, because the problem of attracting women is solved. There is detailed, actionable advice that works incredibly well. Sure there are bitter losers posting too, but read the stuff from the guys who got their shit together. Girls are so fucking easy when you're alpha. So what are you doing he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 11:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is a MGTOW factory due to its refusal to address LTRsThat’s a great metaphor. So much criticism against TRP is based on not what TRP is but what the “freshmen and dropouts” say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 07:52 AM |
| 2 | Women are just as horny as men. It's just that women don't show this to low value men.Had no idea sex drive evolved in an environment without birth control | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 05:54 AM |
| 9 | My (45m) wife (40f) suddenly wants to get a divorce after 16 years.You read the sidebar and do what it says. Most guys save their marriage that way, those that don’t typically choose to leave it because they find out how to handle girls and find their wife isn’t worth staying with. | /r/askMRP | 20/11/19 05:43 AM |
| 1 | TRP guys advocate for men going their own way and then proceed to act according to gender specific rules that are based on what women like.Here’s the thing bro: just as women are wired to like alphas, men are wired to like being alpha. Also, the sex is great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 09:31 PM |
| 1 | What Do You Get Out Of This?I have a thing for arguing with ignorant people. Religious people, communists, blue pillers, it’s just fun talking to people who suffer so badly from cognitive dissonance. It’s not something I do all the time, but once in a while it is good entertainment. Most of my time on reddit I help guys get their shit together, it’s much more interesting, and very rewarding to be a part of someone turning their life around, finding happiness and saving their family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyWhat are you talking about? MGTOWs arguing with some woman publicly, that has zero to do with how a red pill alpha interacts with women. It’s become clear to me that your issue is with the non-alpha men of the manosphere. I agree, they’re a bunch of whiny, bitter losers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyIt’s funny, I see it the exact opposite. With the red pill, women are pleasant company, they’re easy and fun, and don’t demand much of you as long as you have frame. The blue pill version of women are these needy, moody, unpredictable creatures - all the shit you have to do, listen and understand and share your feelings and make them feel comfortable and blah blah, it’s a ton of work for very little reward. I’d take women as the red pill sees them any day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyCould you for once answer the question? How could you possibly think that red pill claims most women end up with alpha boyfriends? This is so far from what the red pill says that I suspect you actually don’t understand the red pill, even a little bit. AF/BB has been used to berate women and insult men who dont follow red pilled ideology as blue pilled betas who’s being used for Beta Bucks by their wife. Well, AF/BB really isn’t very nice. Humans, male and female, have lots of unpleasant behavior… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyThat’s like saying gyms don’t work because some people get a membership and don’t get fit. Elliot Rodgers wasn’t red pill, just stop saying that. It is seriously stupid to claim that. I never follower Roosch V but afaik he got deplatformed and had trouble making money and found Jesus - but what does that have to do with sexual strategy? He got lots of girls, which is what the red pill does. The red pill isn’t a business manual, and it doesn’t shield from religious delusions. The other guys I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyIf the guy was red pill, he’d be spinning plates instead of being sexually frustrated to the point he went on a killing spree. So let’s stop blaming the red pill when it was obviously one of the things that could have prevented the tragedy. The unique thing about the red pill is not understanding female nature, it’s the clear and actionable advice on how to turn that insight into an effective sexual strategy. We tell people how to win, while incels whine about the rules of the game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 11:00 AM |
| 2 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyThe red pill never said that most women would end up with alphas. Women don’t just want alpha, they have a dual sexual strategy and seek out beta traits for long term relationships. Only the highest SMV women are able to find men with both strong alpha and beta traits, but most have to settle for betas with only low alpha. This is one of the most basic findings in the red pill, and I have no idea how you missed this yet still feel you’re qualified to criticize the red pill. If you don’t know any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 10:52 AM |
| 2 | Question For Everyone: What have you done to improve or maintain your appearance?Ear surgery, lifting, dieting, having someone with great fashion sense assist me when shopping, cool haircut, growing a beard, posture control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 08:32 AM |
| 2 | What love language are you least able to express OR receive?Are you not aware of dual sexual strategy? You like those things and don't like physical because you're seeing betas. It seems like guys on this sub seem to be really averse to the idea of gift giving as an expression of love, or even acts of service (like with household chores)...? Guys on this sub know that their partner "having this love language" means they're beta and will be treated like shit. If your girl finds you attractive, her love language is touch and sex, it's that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyI don't make the definitions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible to earn the respect of your spouse or your partner without raising your voice on them?Respect is mainly earned by having high SMV and options, being willing to leave and enforcing boundaries by withdrawing affection. Yelling achieves nothing without the above. Nobody respects an angry man with no power or follow through. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyIt sounds like you’re using the mainstream defintion of alpha, which just confuses things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyI don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. There are male traits that women are attracted to. These have been observed and the red pill calls those traits alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Telling men to "get ripped" is just as Blue-Pilled as telling them to be nice guysSay a guy wants to learn to fight. I tell him to study boxing, BJJ and MMA, and throw in some Krav Maga to get the self defense aspect too. That doesn’t mean he’ll magically win any fight, there are no guarantees. But it is still good advice that will increase his chances dramatically. Telling him to learn aikido, or to practice making his aura project tranquility, would be bad advice. In the same way, the red pill is good advice, while blue pill is bad advice. That doesn’t mean there are any gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:49 PM |
| 5 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyOh please, not this “wolf pack” bs again. The RP alpha has zero do to with pack leaders. RP alpha means something closer to “lover”, it is simply the qualities that women find immediatly attractive (as opposed to beta which are the traits that women value for long term relationships). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyHmm, so you don’t know that RP says that women have a dual sexual strategy? You don’t know that RP says women also seek beta qualities in their partners, and will have sex with them to secure commitment even if they lack alpha qualities? How much do you actually now about RP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyElliot Rodgers looked up red pill ideology. Lol, the guy wasn’t red pill at all, he was basically an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:34 PM |
| 3 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyThe question was, what is inaccurate about alpha and beta. How is this an example of that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:30 PM |
| 3 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyFirst, can you stop dodging? You wrote a CMV, yet you refuse to engage and only answer the parts you want to, or make weird non sequitor replies. Second, you clearly stated that you thought asian popstars lacked masculinity, so RP should say they weren’t attractive. In RP that primarily means having frame - why do you think they lack frame? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:27 PM |
| 7 | Woman makes more money - she carries the bulk of the financials...would you have a problem with it? Both sides speakFamily always recommend their female relatives to pick men with beta qualities, but when asked to pick for themself they pick alphas. It’s been documented in several studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyYou didn’t. You described what women say, not what they do. And some weird semi-racist notions that asian popstars don’t have frame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyI asked what was inaccurate about alpha-beta, please answer that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 05:11 PM |
| 2 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyWhat is inaccurate about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Females don't care about the alpha-beta dichotomyIt’s not about what women say, it is about how women behave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 04:49 PM |
| 3 | To a lot of people marriage still means complete and total commitment, and anyone who thinks it’s worthless is the outlier.For most people the benefits outweigh the risks. As a man in his early 40s most of my friends and my kids' classmates' parents are married because they wanted to and thought it was a good deal. It turned out to be wrong. The majority are unhappy about it, and most who are happy are of the "you can't expect to have passion after so many years" variety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 04:50 PM |
| 2 | A kick in the ass to get going?!Congratulations. You have all this knowledge on how to improve your life, but you don’t care enough about yourself to do it. | /r/askMRP | 10/11/19 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Are Beta And Alpha Terms Only Used By The Red Pill?It’s RP 101, not expert knowledge. Why are you on PPD when you don’t know even the most basic stuff? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/19 08:29 PM |
| 7 | Wife Threatened Divorce Last NightYep, do that. The guys who divorced usually have a very negative view of the chances of turning things around, while the guys who got their wives to submit are very positive. I’m in the latter camp. My marriage was god damn awful, and now I can’t imagine unzipping and her not sucking dick enthusiastically. | /r/askMRP | 08/11/19 06:17 PM |
| 4 | Wife Threatened Divorce Last NightThe guys who divorce often say you can never make her see you as alpha so you might as well give up. The vets who stayed married got their wives to submit. Whose experience will you listen to? | /r/askMRP | 08/11/19 06:10 PM |
| 12 | Wife Threatened Divorce Last NightDon’t do that. You don’t have the leverage to enforce the boundary. It is much better to just use A&A or amused mastery. Make fun of it. When your SMV is higher, so you can withdraw affection and that bothers her, that’s when you can begin setting boundaries. | /r/askMRP | 08/11/19 05:50 PM |
| 4 | Wife Threatened Divorce Last NightThis is probably just the mother of all shit tests, but any insight or direction you guys have at this stage would be appreciated. Yep, all standard stuff, so just pass it with standard techniques and continue to read the sidebar. Also the illimitable men shit test encyclopedia is good if you need a primer. | /r/askMRP | 08/11/19 03:48 PM |
| 0 | To be truthful to the idea of The Red Pill you have to question The Red PillTake science. The idea of questioning science is retarded. You can of course advance science, make new discoveries, theories can be refined or even change. But you don't question science itself. It's the same with the red pill. And as with science, the major findings are so established and so thoroughly demonstrated as true, again and again, that you can't expect to challenge and any attempt at doing so would require extraordinary evidence. If you think you came up with something new, test it, p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/19 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Are Beta And Alpha Terms Only Used By The Red Pill?literally no one on Earth thinks Chris Hemsworth is a beta. First, you should google the definition of "literally". Second, yes, red pill finds him beta. That is the point, the definition of alpha by you and the mainstream is different than the red pill definition. Know, if you didn't know anything about him, I could understand if you said "I don't know if he's alpha or not". But just assuming he's alpha because he's hot and rich, that's not how it works. The real problem here is that you are a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/19 08:41 AM |
| 2 | Are Beta And Alpha Terms Only Used By The Red Pill?They don’t, and if you had picked a non-nerdy you’d see that. But you picked someone to support your flawed understanding of RP. Let’s take Chris Hemsworth, the guy who plays Thor. He’s beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/19 05:22 AM |
| 2 | Are Beta And Alpha Terms Only Used By The Red Pill?Nope. For example a CEO will most often be a beta in RP terms, while most people would call them alpha. Also, are you ok, bro? You seem very angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/19 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Are Beta And Alpha Terms Only Used By The Red Pill?The RP usage of alpha and beta has nothing to do with that, so what is your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/19 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Are Beta And Alpha Terms Only Used By The Red Pill?The red pill terms of alpha and beta are way different than the common usage of the words. If you think RP means the same as everyone else, you haven’t even remotely understood the red pill. In RP, alpha means “lover archetype” and beta means “provider archetype”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/19 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Are Beta And Alpha Terms Only Used By The Red Pill?Alpha and beta means something very different outside of the red pill. The main stream usage of alpha is usually aggressive or leader, while in the red pill it means the lover archetype that embodies the traits that women turn women on. Beta in main stream means weak or follower, while in the red pill it means provider, a man who mainly relies on his resources to attract women. Take Jeff Bezos, most would call him alpha but in RP he is beta. The cocky, fit, minimum wage fitness coach, that guy i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/19 09:44 AM |
| 1 | AMALT - All Men Are Like ThatThat’s just whataboutism. The red pill studies female behavior. That men are equally big (or bigger) assholes or simpletons or whatever, doesn’t make women behave any differently. The sexual strategy is about understanding and manipulating female behavior, it’s not a moral comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/19 09:36 AM |
| 2 | LTR decided to get a boob jobYea that's how I also see it on the one hand but on the other hand she never seemed to care so much about her boobs. We often go out she dresses nice, we go swim and everything. She sounds comfortable with it, it doesn’t sound like she has issues. I can't understand how meatbags on your chest can make you feel uncomfortable to such a scale that you need to put silicone inside your body to make it look different or more like some body ideal. Why all this negative language? Maybe she doesn’t need … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/11/19 09:26 AM |
| 12 | LTR decided to get a boob jobShe's smarter than you are. Looks matter. Do you really believe that people who care about their looks are just insecure? Sure, some people are insecure, but that's not the only reason, and even if you're insecure about something that doesn't mean what you're pursuing is bad. I know several very driven business men where I'm 100% sure their main reason for pushing so hard is their low self esteem - the conclusion here isn't that it's bad to work hard to reach your goals. The reason she doesn't l… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/11/19 08:29 AM |
| 10 | Gym Mentality and SizeYou’re eating too little on your bulks. You should be putting on 2lbs per month. Some of that will be fat, yes - you get rid of that on a cut later. Getting scared of gaining fat will leave you with very few gains. Bulk/cut cycles is the way to go. | /r/askMRP | 06/11/19 03:38 PM |
| 5 | What is your deepest purpose? Finding it hard to understand what this could be.You can’t just decide on your deeper purpose. Continue improving, strengthening your frame, develop your masculine identity further, pursuing your mission. This will give you the capability, experience, insight and outlook that you need. From that, perhaps purpose will one day arise. It is more an emergent property. | /r/askMRP | 05/11/19 07:46 PM |
| 5 | Why are these redpillers going to "Alpha male strategies" or "pick up artists", etc..?submitted 10 hours ago by Polojames123No Pill Chad I find it funny that men that aren't "Alpha males' in any sense of the word, think they deserve the same girls, respect, money, or anything that an "Alpha male" gets on their own. You can't 'hunt' but you demand the biggest and best piece of meat, that the Alpha males killed? Then you get jealous, angry, and feel you're entitled to it? Even during stone age, well into the "Donner Party" with the famous quote, "If you don't work, you don't eat", … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Kings, I got married this past weekend. What advice can you guys give me? What do you wish someone had told you week 1 into marriage?"Read the sidebar". | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/11/19 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Kings, I got married this past weekend. What advice can you guys give me? What do you wish someone had told you week 1 into marriage?The info you want is in the sidebar. Start with MMSLP. We're not going to type out a full book for you. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/11/19 07:34 PM |
| 7 | CMV: the manosphere has become nothing but a wasteland of unmasculine tradcon men pining away for the impossible.Exactly. TRP says dorky guys are losers who won’t ever have a good relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 07:36 AM |
| 9 | CMV: the manosphere has become nothing but a wasteland of unmasculine tradcon men pining away for the impossible.This took like 3 seconds to find on google https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9197597/Strong-men-more-likely-to-vote-Conservative.html Physically strong men are more likely to hold right wing political views because they believe society should be geared to personal struggle and self-preservation, an academic study claims. And claiming that there are as many masculine on the left as the right is just plain silly. It so obviously counterfactual. Heck, the left even has fewer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 07:31 AM |
| 10 | CMV: the manosphere has become nothing but a wasteland of unmasculine tradcon men pining away for the impossible.It’s not a wasteland at all. Think of it like a gym. Sure, gyms attracts a lot of unfit people who are there to fix that problem (or at least pretend they’re trying to, it is far from everyone who puts in the effort). But gyms are also where you find some of the fittest guys. It’s the same with the red pill. It is as ridiculous to call it a wasteland of unmasculine guys as to call gymgoers a wasteland of fat people. It is the guys who did the work and follow the strategy who define it, not the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP Men: What type of men would women attract if they...?in general, it is said that if you have to wait for sex or offer commitment in exchange for sex, then it is almost always mediocre. If you have to wait for sex, she’s not attracted to you, so of course it’ll be mediocre, and long term you’re heading for something awful. Getting involved with a girl who isn’t attracted to you is obviously a bad idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/19 05:39 PM |
| 10 | How to constructively tell my wife she’s overweightFuck nuanced communication. Have high SMV, tell her what you expect from her, and guide her. If she doesn't follow, there are some great tools like withdrawing affection and dread that work for high SMV men. And don't worry about her self esteem. The self esteem base level for adults is very, very hard to move, and her getting her shit together and getting a great body is going to be a self esteem boost. So stop this waddling around in her frame of "you have unrealistic expectations of a mother … | /r/askMRP | 01/11/19 09:29 AM |
| 0 | EXPECTING a woman to have sex with you by the 3rd date is ridiculous.The point is that if she’s making you wait, she isn’t attracted to you and thus you’ll have a shitty relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 08:32 PM |
| 0 | Most women increase their SMV when they really need an increase in RMV (men are in need of both)What it says on the TRP sidebar: frame, game and looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 08:29 PM |
| 14 | Relapse and Hysterical BondingThere isn't "this one trick'" to get your dick sucked. It's increasing your alpha (frame, game and looks) until you become attractive enough that she'll want to fuck you and please you. The actual advice is to read the sidebar. MMSLP is the foundation, and if you have issues with asserting yourself NMMNG and WYSNIFG will help with that. | /r/askMRP | 29/10/19 09:59 AM |
| 24 | Relapse and Hysterical BondingYou don't need the red pill as much as you need some basic direction and self discipline, you need an escape from this negative spiral of depression --> lack of effort -> repeat that you're in. Look up Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life. That's what you need, it'll help you get out of your hole and begin building a better life. This is something that you do for you, to get your shit in order and build some character, so you can take care of you and your family. Don't expect your wife to suck yo… | /r/askMRP | 29/10/19 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Making the juice worth the squeeze.You don’t start out doing something insane. You just start small. You go to the gym, lift some really light weights. That’s not hard. Then you do it again 2 days later. Not hard either. Heck, you might even feel good about it, doing something to make your life better. Keep doing that a few months, you’ll begin feeling great. The endorphins help with that, you have increased testosterone, you have more energy, more strenth, more muscle, you look better. Keep doing that a year, and you’re going pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/19 05:44 AM |
| 5 | Making the juice worth the squeeze.Working out a few times per week, eating right, being cocky and dominant, none of that is hard. With so little squeeze required, the juice is absolutely worth it. The problem is, these guys are so weak and undisciplined that they can’t bring themselves to do even the most basic stuff, because the reward isn’t immediate. They might have to do it for months or a year. And instead of doing a bit of effort every day for a while, they just stay miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/19 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Men who find overweight women unattractive. Why and what exactly is it that makes them unattractive for you?So you can get the hot, thin girls? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/19 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Men who find overweight women unattractive. Why and what exactly is it that makes them unattractive for you?In my experience, guys who can score thin girls only want thin girls, guys who can't are ok with normal weight girls, and unattractive men are ok with bigger girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/19 12:30 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Do you consider the manosphere to be misogynistic?But the fact that the mods allow the really offensive things to stay within the subreddit shows their explicit support and agreement with the content. Also, the fact that the super offensive content isn’t downvoted shows that the reader-base explicitly support and agree with it as well. I’m not even remotely misogynistic, but that doesn’t mean I want that stuff censored or downvoted. Especially stuff like GLO’s which is deliberatedly over the top. I’m not so sensitive, and women aren’t supposed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/19 08:11 PM |
| 2 | TRP is in trouble: the dual mating strategy has been destroyedLook, the red pill isn’t some nerdy thought experiment based on niche research findings It’s a practical, applied sexual strategy. It was developed and refined in the real world, by men interacting with real girls and seeing how they responded. When I’ve experienced first hand how effective it is, you coming here and posting some research on ovulatory shift and claiming that was all TRP rested on, it is plain silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/19 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Some of the most immature guys I know have great success with girlsMaturity isn’t an alpha trait. Why should immaturity be a problem for getting girls? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 09:03 PM |
| 2 | I almost lost my marriage of 32 years and turned it around in 3 months.Frame and game. Even just passing shit tests, outcome independence and LMR techniques gets you far. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/10/19 02:00 PM |
| 13 | Enough w pathetic "wife won't fuck me" posts. Who here is getting it at home, but also spinning plates or has a regular side piece? Any open relationships?Why do you have an issue with guys posting about getting their shit together? It's what the subreddit is for. There's plenty of vets who has their shit together and get plenty of hot sex monogamously. Why are you so aggressively pushing this idea that the only options are side action and no action? What are you really asking here? How to turn on your wife so you can have fun at home? How to tell your wife about your side piece? Drill into the real reasons why you want mommy's approval beyond the… | /r/askMRP | 25/10/19 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Sub-Communication With The WifeYeah, for the new guys, and the guys half-assing it, the way girls react when you really amp up the alpha, it seems unreal. | /r/askMRP | 25/10/19 07:48 AM |
| 7 | I almost lost my marriage of 32 years and turned it around in 3 months.Yep, it can work that quickly - I only had half the marriage duration but saw the same shift, very quickly. When I started MRP, I was already fit and strong (been lifting seriously since my teens), and I had excellent social skills (a ton of management and negotiation experience from work). I had all the skills and traits needed, I'd just been operating with the wrong playbook. Once I got the red playbook, I could hit the ground running. The "1 month per year of marriage" is a VERY broad average… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/10/19 06:58 AM |
| 2 | Sub-Communication With The WifeUse those weapons too, man. Apply your frame. I judge her all the time, throw subtle negs, use disqualification. It’s game 101. Then you get stuff like “have I been good enough or will you spank me?” instead. | /r/askMRP | 24/10/19 09:19 PM |
| 7 | I don't want to be the reason for another MRPI'm deeply sorry about the experiences you're facing in your day to day life, some of the posts here are very troubling and make it seem like these individuals are living through a daily hell... Fuck that, we all get exactly what we deserve. Act like a bitch, get treated like a bitch. The only thing you should be sympathetic for is that no one told them about the red pill before and instead fed them lies about what women want. I watched the Red Pill and it blew me away completely. The Red Pill d… | /r/askMRP | 24/10/19 12:37 PM |
| 8 | Help with girlfriendI don't think women have much awareness of why they do what they do. But I don't waste time wondering if something was subconsciousn or not, calculated or not. They do what they do, who cares what they thought? And ooh, she causes great uproar when she doesn't get what she wants? What sort of man do you think fears his wife being angry and lets himself be manipulated by that? | /r/MarriedRedPill | 23/10/19 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Is my marriage salvageable?Maybe he should move on, but doing so because she's "not interested in changing" when he's still the same lazy beta he's always been, that's the wrong reason for doing so. Se my other post in this thread. | /r/askMRP | 23/10/19 02:47 PM |
| 4 | Is my marriage salvageable?Women aren't inherently interested in changing. They're not the ones who fix a marriage. They're also not inherently opposed to changing. They'll change when they have a reason to. Like their husband alphaing up and playing dread games, or post divorce to hook a new guy. | /r/askMRP | 23/10/19 02:21 PM |
| 14 | Being a young women isnt as fun as people on here make out.Every post here is "they have it easier" or "we have it harder". Look. Just like for men, if you're weak, insecure and lack discipline, your life will suck. If you stay fit, diet, dress and groom well, act feminine or masculine depending on your sex, life is going to be great when it comes to dating and sex. If you apply yourself in your studies/work, that's probably going to work out too. It's no secret what it takes for girls to be attractive, and while most men lack proper guidance everyone h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 01:34 PM |
| 33 | Is my marriage salvageable?I wrote a post on this some time ago that I'll just copy-paste in https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/37l2q0/when_to_next_your_wife/ Time changes everything I've been at that place where my wife had hurt me so bad so many times I thought she'd killed all feeling for her and I just wanted to hurt her back. I could not imagine it ever working again. But the fact is that just months later we were having lots of great sex, we were happy, and all that was under the bridge. My wife is sti… | /r/askMRP | 23/10/19 01:02 PM |
| 1 | If you've been subbed here for years and still haven't gotten laid you need to get off internet and take actionPerceived social status is king. You can have all the frame, game and looks in the world, and if Leo DiCaprio was interested in your girl tomorrow you wouldn't be able to do a thing about the inevitable branch swing. I don't think anyone knows exactly what happens when the ultra-famous get involved, but it is such an unrealistic and hyperbolic example it really isn't relevant. Also, Leonardo is hardly un-alpha. What about Bill Gates, do you think he can make the girls wet? He's ultra rich, made … | /r/TheRedPill | 23/10/19 12:57 PM |
| 2 | If you've been subbed here for years and still haven't gotten laid you need to get off internet and take actionAnd what's more alpha than deciding you want something and getting exactly that by earning it? Doing things that are actually alpha is more alpha than buying stuff. Buying stuff isn't alpha, neither is making money. Trying for that route is being beta bux, man. There's nothing wrong with making money and enjoying it, but it won't turn girls on like alpha does. Alpha is frame, game, and looks, that's it. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/10/19 12:08 PM |
| 2 | As the average American female is a whopping 171lbs at 5'4, is wanting a girlfriend under 140/150lbs now considered "high standards"?What is wrong with high standards? I find "normal weight" girls like Kate Upton very unattractive, girls should be fit and with minimal body fat. If she doesn't have defined abs she'd better bring a lot of other stuff to the table. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 11:10 AM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceI have a sweet, loving, submissive, kinky wife, and you think because we had a huge fight 2 years ago the "situation is toxic and petulant", hahaha. You bloopers are so weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 09:58 AM |
| 20 | Help with girlfriendWhen you said this sums up perfectly how a man will end up in a dead bedroom... What does? Being a pleaser? Great boyfriend? Loving and devoted? Or not the take charge type? Being a pleaser, and not taking charge, definetely yes. Great boyfriend, that's so vague it doesn't mean much. Loving and devoted, mostly yes. If you have a sweet, submissive girl and you love her and protect that's fine, but if your default setting is loving and devoted regardless of what she does for you, you're getting ro… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 23/10/19 09:55 AM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceLol dude, that’s what you got? It’s called setting boundaries. Alphas get to do that. Let’s bring up one of her posts from that thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWives/comments/7m4bno/need_advice_so_angry_and_unfulfilled_accidental/drrr7l2/ Relevant quote: I love him and I do want to make him the happiest man alive And that’s from one of the worst incidents in the 16 years we’ve been together. So it’s pretty clear you have no idea what you’re talking about. This is how you solve conflicts:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 07:54 AM |
| 15 | Help with girlfriendSo I have a great girlfriend. She motivates me, always works with me, and is generally pretty affectionate. But there's one problem: our sex drives. I'm sure her sex drive is just fine, you're just not attractive. I know I'm a pleaser and I know I give in to her a lot but she's also not that difficult. I know I'm a great boyfriend in the sense of being loving and devoted. But I'm definitely not the macho type who takes charge. This sums up perfectly how a man will end up in a dead bedroom She sa… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 23/10/19 06:44 AM |
| -10 | If you've been subbed here for years and still haven't gotten laid you need to get off internet and take actionA man's sexual value is determined by his place in society No man, that's beta game. Be alpha. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/10/19 04:45 AM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceWhy would I treat her like shit? We’re having fun, kissing a lot, raising the kids. You should look into what the red pill is, you obviously have a very warped picture of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 10:33 PM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceYeah, I was a fucking retard for trusting my wife to not get pregnant, I should have listened more to the RP warnings about that sort of stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 09:50 PM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceThe agenda is to get laid, and it isn’t based on studies or evolutionary biology, it’s from actual experience. This stuff works, out in real life, it’s been tried and tested and refined by a lot of guys over several years. That’s what the red pill is, the best sexual strategy we know of. If something better is discovered, that’s what the red pill will become. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 09:21 PM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceThose things you listed are not ideologies. RP isn’t an ideology, it is a practical strategy. As innumerable people have said, there is no 'blue pill' narrative. It is simply the absense of the RP ideology RP is to dating as MMA is to fighting. BP dating advice is like non-MMA martial arts - ranging from made up bullshit to something similar to MMA, its effectiveness being proportional to the degree of similarity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 08:22 PM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceYou’re kidding, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 07:01 PM |
| 3 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceThe Red Pill works. For LTR it does not. The advice sucks Morgoth level balls. When it comes to LTR, OLD SCHOOL Blue Pill advice works better. Lol no, RP works just fine in LTRs, and BP does not. BP works sort of ok early in an LTR, but long term it is just horrible. That’s why so many men enter into LTRs but end up being miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 06:55 PM |
| 1 | The issue with Blue Pill adviceYou mean, like atheists, physicists, the trainer in an MMA gym? There are empirical findings in this world, and speaking against them is wrong. Of course you should be open to new empirical findings or alternate explanations that fit the observations, but stuff like the truth in mormonism, the efficiency of aikido in a fight and whether BP dating advice works, it’s just settled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 06:51 PM |
| 1 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingMoney isn't going to help, just begin on frame and game. It sounds like you're trying to prop your frame up with success and clothing, that won't work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 05:59 PM |
| 2 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingYour problem is that you see men with good qualities but with low alpha as average. They're not. It is alpha that matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 09:52 AM |
| 2 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingMen are average because they're in the middle of the ladder and are where most people are. But what ladder? On the alpha ladder, the guys in the middle are doing ok, as you’d expect. The problem is these low-alpha guys insisting that they’re average on some other ladder, like their job or niceness or whatever. Well, those ladders aren’t about attraction so they are irrelevant. Can we stop pretending that [...] women are going to be grossed and unhappy if they have to settle for less than Chads? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 09:24 AM |
| 5 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingLots of men are at least somewhat alpha and aren't struggling. Look, betas aren't attractive. All these guys who parade their beta traits and then whine how little female attention they get, it is plain silly. You have to be alpha, that is what girls like. Can we stop pretending that these extremely unattractive guys are average just because they have a job, and that women should be happy settling for someone they find gross? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 08:50 AM |
| 5 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingFor men, being attractive is say 20% looks, the rest is frame and game and the guy you describe there sounds like those are weak. Job is irrelevant. So this accountant is at the bottom of the pool. Of course he is struggling. The real problem is that most guys are retards and think that an average girl should like them for their job and loyalty. But those are beta traits, it is not what girls are attracted to. Girls like alpha, you have to evaluate men by how alpha they are. And these "average" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 08:10 AM |
| 1 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingThe average guy isn't like a 250k job, more like below living wage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 07:16 AM |
| 10 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingWhat you're forgetting here is that most girls can only pull guys they aren't attracted to. It's not great for them either. It's only fun in the high end, for either sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 07:11 AM |
| 2 | The problem isn't women wanting guys who are attractive, it's the extent to which guys need to excel to be considered attractive as well as the fact that negative personality traits are considered appealingFrame and game, man. You know about the red pill, there is concrete, actionable advice on exactly how to turn on girls, why don't you go read it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/19 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Wife has lost interestOk Ive just recently swallowed the pill so bear with me Wtf does that mean? Have you read the sidebar and implemented it in your life? | /r/askMRP | 15/10/19 09:39 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone here actually bluepill?There are two options: what you call dog turds are either not there, or something I don’t think are dog turds. Since this is in your head, at best I could guess based on what other bloopers have said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 09:22 PM |
| 5 | Books for her.My wife found my account, read everything I wrote and freaked out completely too. And ended up with “the surrendered wife” on her night stand. All these outbursts and feelings they have, it’s not something you should place much stock in. It’s temporary, heat of the moment stuff. They always fall back to reflecting your frame. It’s your frame that sets her right, not what she reads. | /r/askMRP | 14/10/19 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Is anyone here actually bluepill?What are the dog turds then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 09:05 PM |
| 3 | Books for her.If there's something out there for her to read that makes her all that more submissive and helps her understand the changes to the boundaries in our relationship then fair play. This is a battle of frames. She will never read anything that will make her more submissive or accepting of your boundaries. You have to make all that happen by being alpha. Her primary goal is not to improve your marriage, it is to test your frame. Even if she was convinced she’d be so happy submitting, she’d still only… | /r/askMRP | 14/10/19 09:03 PM |
| 5 | Books for her.My wife is 100% atheist and still liked it | /r/askMRP | 14/10/19 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone here actually bluepill?What makes you think I’m lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Is anyone here actually bluepill?Love, sex and submission is stupid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 07:17 PM |
| 10 | Books for her.My wife liked “the surrendered wife” by Laura Doyle, but it requires her wanting to submit first. Any self help book would help, wouldn’t it? “7 habits of highly effective people”, if she read that and did half the stuff it suggested, that would be great. You could also just go by subject. Something on fitness and diet, parenting, home organization, etc. But really, this all comes from you. Your SMV makes her want to step up, your frame and boundaries channel it into what you want. Books will on… | /r/askMRP | 14/10/19 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Is anyone here actually bluepill?It’s funny how guys who tried it says it works wonders, everyone else says it is trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 07:03 PM |
| 2 | Is anyone here actually bluepill?Red pill works just as well in LTRs and marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 06:12 PM |
| 4 | At what point is this chore play?Look, chore play is when you're cleaning the car because you think it'll get you laid. And it doesn't work. I assume you know that, so there's no way you could be chore playing. I assume you have a reasonable division of labor at home (whatever the fuck that means), just stick to that and stop thinking sex into it. If the division of labor is unbalanced because she's been bargaining with her pussy (and of course being dishonest about it, because chore play doesn't work), then you deal with that … | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 08:48 PM |
| 2 | The Guides To Fighting On TRP Are GarbageThe problem is street fights are so wild and unpredictable that you don't usually have time to measure the distance and control the tempo. Wtf are you talking about? You're usually dealing with people with slow footwork, no head movement, telegraphed punches and zero grappling skills. How the fuck are you not in control versus unskilled fighters? I'll always advocate combat sport training for your base but surprise and aggression can overwhelm trained fighters. This is one of the dumbest things … | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/19 08:37 PM |
| 2 | The Guides To Fighting On TRP Are GarbageThe 360 awareness is to avoid getting blindsided. It doesn't mean you're fighting everyone at the same time, of course you're positioning to only fight one guy at a time and going for him when you have the chance. Your original description of fighting multiple opponents was way different from what you describe here, I'm not sure if you're making it up as you go or what is happening. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/19 08:30 PM |
| 2 | The Guides To Fighting On TRP Are GarbageI've been in street fights, yes. No, I don't go into fight or flight mode, I can think while fighting. Sure there's adrenaline and that affects you, but I don't go on autopilot or lose control. I don't think you understand the impact an assault charge and jail time will have on your life. And look, your focus should be on awareness, deescalation and escape. If that doesn't work and you have to fight, most of the time you're going to be facing people who can't fight, and if your instinct is to go… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/19 08:25 PM |
| 7 | The Guides To Fighting On TRP Are GarbageThe answer to multiple opponents is to go as hard as possible before they can coordinate and dog pile you. Nope. Head swiveling and 360 awareness is the most important. Next is footwork to position yourself so you won’t face multiple opponents at once. Jail time and dying are real possibilities and you should never fight unless you absolutely have to. But if you have to fight, all out aggression is a very bad strategy because it will land you in jail. Be fast and decisive, sure, but you really c… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/19 06:04 PM |
| 5 | A question for the lifters.You make a lot of assumptions about what I believe, maybe just stick to what I said? Weight training is about adapting This is a way too vague principle to guide you programming on. Specifics are important. At what level of effort do you trigger adaption? Do you really think the body only makes you stronger if you task it maximally? Do you not believe that maximum effort causes damage that you need to recover from? Can't you see that there is an optimal point that is somewhere below maximum, and… | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 05:24 PM |
| 25 | The Guides To Fighting On TRP Are GarbageStreets fights are usually easy mode if you've got solid sparring experience. All this "you have to go all out to survive a real fight" is complete BS. Untrained people are slow and uncoordinated and easily picked apart. Your main risks on the street are: multiple opponents weapons getting jail time for being too violent Any self defense advice for trained fighters that don't focus on awareness, deescalation, and those 3 issues, are completely misguided. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/19 03:38 PM |
| 1 | How long did it take to turn things around?was the 2 month rule (per year of faggotry) applicable in your case? No. I don't think it applies as anything but a rough average (and isn't it 1 month?) guessed by someone from a very low sample size. I already had solid social skills, strong self esteem, and I had been lifting since my teens, and with that I could hit the ground running. I had positive results after just a few days. Your personal qualities matters a lot more than time as a beta in my opinion. If your basic social, mental and p… | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 03:26 PM |
| 1 | A question for the lifters.Lots of people do it wrong, overtraining is very common. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 03:09 PM |
| 3 | A question for the lifters.If you feel better about being a tough guy who ignores pain than being some who trains effectively, go ahead, do it your way. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 03:08 PM |
| 4 | A question for the lifters.Absolutely. The question is, do you reduce loads, or just keep going full power with a ton of soreness. A bit of soreness is fine, that damage is what stimulates muscles to grow, but extreme soreness is a sign you’re going over what a natty’s body is able to recover from without hindering its ability to grow at the same time. I don’t know if it is the same for guys on gear, it could be it isn’t. When on gear you can do a lot of shit wrong and still get great results. But even if they are trainin… | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 09:16 AM |
| 1 | How long did it take to turn things around?In 2-3 months, sex was good. Had a dead bedroom previously. 6 months in, I was getting blowjobs during shark week, she’d wear lingerie, collar ane buttpluf, and send random texts during the day with gushing declarations of love. After 9 months, it was full sexual submission, never any rejection, any time of day I could unzip and she’d give a blowjob, or just suck and lick on it a bit if that was what I wanted. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 06:50 AM |
| 5 | A question for the lifters.You’re on gear, you have say twice the capacity for recovery that us natties do. You can benefit from, or least not get hindered by, putting your body through much more abuse. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 06:38 AM |
| 3 | A question for the lifters.Injury is something else, usually a joint or tendon issue and often it’s the movement or your lack of mobility that is causing it, or simply that your tendons and joints take much longer to adapt than your muscles. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 06:27 AM |
| 1 | A question for the lifters.Most likely you’re relatively better at using your legs than you arms from sports you once did, but neither have the muscle adaptation to handle the load since you haven’t done anything for years. Or maybe you’re doing the eccentric movement slower with your legs than your arms. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 06:20 AM |
| 1 | A question for the lifters.It has nothing to do with lactic acid. It’s literal muscle damage. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 06:14 AM |
| 1 | A question for the lifters.DOMS have nothing to do with lactic acid. | /r/askMRP | 12/10/19 06:11 AM |
| 19 | A question for the lifters.At any level of soreness, you’ve stimulated muscle growth as much as you can. Going beyond that is just doing damage that needs to be repaired too, it is counterproductive. Lower the weight drastically to the point where you only get a bit sore, then increase it slowly from there. | /r/askMRP | 11/10/19 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?I like arguing with people who have weird, irrational ideologies. Religious people, socialists, bloopers, it’s fun poking at their biases and triggering cognitive dissonance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 10:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Redpill is a coping mechanism for menRedpill is supposedly a sexual strategy but we all know it goes way beyond that. Nope, it doesn’t. The subreddit, sure, but that is the mods and users. A lot of them are angsty, bitter guys who got hurt, but the incels, MRAs and wannabes don’t define the red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 10:08 PM |
| 14 | The Coma VictimIf a lion bites off my hand, even if I accept its lion nature it's still going to suck missing my hand. And we're programmed to to be really bothered by our woman fucking other dudes. All that stuff about throwing resources at another man's kid. My wife had an episode where she threatened to go fuck other men, and extrapolating from my reaction to that I doubt I could recover from adultery. I'd be too disgusted with her, find her too low value, and any feeling of anger would be towards her for f… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/10/19 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Reading the books in the sidebar is making me hate women!Dude, once you alpha up you are the one that has it easy. Forgot all this MRA and incel drivel and get to work instead, improve. | /r/askMRP | 08/10/19 10:28 PM |
| 2 | My DNGAF is brokenI don't think you know what DNGAF means. There are many things in life you're supposed to give a fuck about. If your car is broken, you care and you fix it, or replace if it is totalled. There's a huge difference between your wife throwing some crazy shit test that you shoudn't GAF about, and your wife cheating. This pain is real, and it has for real diminished her value. Maybe you can get over it and she gain regain some of her value, maybe not. At best it'll take time, and lots of submission a… | /r/askMRP | 08/10/19 06:45 AM |
| 5 | A question about self improvementHas nothing to do with game or sexual strategy or alpha Hmm ok, not sure what it has to do with the red pill then. Why not ask guys in that line of work instead? | /r/askMRP | 05/10/19 02:15 PM |
| 3 | A question about self improvementIf you think your alpha or frame will improve from this, you're wrong. It's fucking insecure to seek something external like a job for that. Very few jobs help with anything but beta game, and those that aid alpha tend to involve lots of hot girls. But dangerous jobs tend to be all sweaty men. So for sexual strategy, this sounds irrelevant. | /r/askMRP | 05/10/19 01:04 PM |
| -1 | Men who get married tend to have the worse sexual satisfaction, do you agree?The point of marriage is to create a stable environment for rearing children, even if it is often unsuccessful at even that goal given the higher divorce rate. When a wife dead bedrooms her beta husband, that’s obviously not to create a stable environment for rearing children. The point is to secure resources for her children while minimizing the risk of getting pregnant with beta genes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/19 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Marriage and You.Does this make you happy? Kids are too much work, frustration, worry, sadness and obligation that I’d say it makes me happy. Our youngest is a toddler, it’s like asking a mount everest climber on the way up if he is he happy, nah he’s in agony. But many worthwhile things are hard work. Would you do a re-do if given the chance? I’d have liked the red pill playbook 25 years ago, but the essence of it - one woman, some kids - I’d do the same again, yeah. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/10/19 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Own Your Shit Weekly - October 01, 2019am I doing it every month expecting anything in return, or just because I want to give. Doing stuff for people they haven't earned is beta as fuck, and the desire to do so is usually hinged on a covert contract. Even if you're not conscious of it and "just feels like doing stuff for her", it's still misguided and unattractive. That it's deep in your emotional wiring instead of a manipulative move, that really doesn't make it better. You also wrote in another post that you wanted to be fun to be … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/10/19 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Own Your Shit Weekly - October 01, 2019Thankfully my business frame is very strong and I will be applying the techniques I use to maintain it towards my wife. This seems to be working well so far but it's been only two weeks. We will see Yep, it works extremely well. Once I got the red pill playbookI hit the ground running with my business experience too. Just remember, romantic interactions are like the "adversarial" parts of business like sales and negotiations. Most of the cooperative stuff from team management and long term busin… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 02/10/19 03:05 PM |
| 1 | For Those Who Say The Dating World Isn’t Fair - What changes would make things fair?The only unfair thing for men is that most guys don't get red pill knowledge. Once you know of the red pill, if you do the work you'll be the one holding all the cards and being able to do unfair shit. For women, I don't know. They have a shitty deal. They have the upper hand against betas, who they don't really like, and they can't control the alphas that they do like. The best option seems to be to get really hot and develop the feminine qualities that can attract a high value alpha who is als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/19 08:02 AM |
| 2 | What should men's strategy be with women, once they are fully red pilled and aware of female sexual strategy?The best strategy is to spin plates when you don't want a family, and a good, old fashioned nuclear family once you do (if that means marriage or not depends on the legal details of your jurisdiction). The red pill guys who think there are actual issues in an LTR/marriage with dead bedrooms or branch swinging are just plain wrong - it's their personal insecurities speaking. It's only an issue if you lose your frame and game. Just stay alpha and you'll have a loving, submissive wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/19 07:58 AM |
| 2 | Marriage and You.I'm married and MRP approved, and what your Morpheus is trying to tell you is that your frame and game isn't there. Your post reeks of validation seeking. You say you don't care, but you should care. You're not going to find an LTR where she will love for your goals of family and stability, which is clearly what you're after. Girls in LTRs and marriage love exactly the same things as single girls and plates want. Your frame will just be tested a fuckton harder, and abundance is more difficult. I… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/10/19 06:50 AM |
| 3 | Life is about perspectivesThis sub is not for exposing people to different points of views. Most of them are utterly useless for developing masculine identity and red pill sexual strategy, and that is what this sub is for. Not filling your head with garbage isn’t being afraid of critical thinking, it is valueing your time and energy. Being an alpha is essentially about being a leader You need to read the sidebar. Lots of alphas have no leadership skills, lots of great leaders aren’t alpha. Do you think asshole Chad is a … | /r/TheRedPill | 28/09/19 12:08 PM |
| 6 | CMV: I think the level of hate that the Red Pill gets is uncalled forWhat is important is to split the red pill from the people on the TRP subreddit. There are a lot of angry incels and MRAs on the subreddit who don't follow any of the advice and praxeology of the red pill sexual strategy, but instead just whine or worse. The red pill sexual strategy would be more or less acceptable if it was just that and some alphas or aspiring alphas talking about that. But some of the incels post some quite hateful stuff from time to time, and for some reason that shit is see… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/19 10:56 AM |
| 8 | CMV: I think the level of hate that the Red Pill gets is uncalled forMost guys get over the anger phase, and usually they enjoy the company of women far more afterwards than they did before they swallowed the pill. And what guys are angry about is mainly that they've been lied to, and all the time they wasted and all the hurt they suffered because of those lies. The solution here is to tell men the truth, not to cover it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/19 10:51 AM |
| 0 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?You don’t even know the difference between psychiatry and psychology. And you obviously haven’t bothered to read up on attachment theory. Are you that afraid that you’ll learn something new? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/19 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?Occam's Razor. It's a stretch to believe that your wife has a mental problem that causes her not to appreciate just how wonderful you are. Yet earlier, you said you'd read about attachment theory. I've posted links to it. You could have googled it. This is probably the best documented non-pathological area of psychology, and you want to handwave heaps of research away with Occam's Razor? That's just not how Occam's Razor works. And not surprisingly, you also fail to understand the behavior of fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/19 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?I think you're responding to someone else's comment, not mine. Nope, you responded to the post where I explained it, by saying I shouldn’t stick my dick in crazy. And then you’re pretending I didn’t explain it. Anyway, finding out your wife is RP-aware introduces a new element. Hmm, is she insecure because she suffers from a "fearful/avoidant" attachment style and fears that you're just so wonderful she doesn't deserve you? Yes, that is how it works. You said you’d read about it, why do you ask?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/19 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?And there’s the concede. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?Exactly. It doesn’t work. So what is wrong with the picture you’re trying to paint here? Something doesn’t fit. Can you see what it is? Try to stop dodging, try get past your cognitive dissonance, and think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?I don’t know what century you think this is, lots of women leave their husbands. And lots of men leave their wives, without their wives going all submissive, loving and kinky to get them to stay. What is your theory on why that didn’t happen here? Why does she jump through my hoops instead of just leaving, or just refusing my demands and hoping I’d stay anyway? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?I'm not interested in debating you. Haha ok. You seem pretty interested in getting your point across though. I just think it's absolutely hilarious that you consider yourself some kind of merp guru because your pregnant wife jumped through your ridiculous hoops out of fear of being abandoned while pregnant. All her jumping through my hoops began years before that though. The only thing we had left to deal with was her attachment issues, and it did seem the fear of losing me was what gave her the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 10:08 PM |
| 9 | About FeedbackAnd dread, man. Your wife is on the 1000 foot rope, horrible for feedback. But dread game is great feedback. It’s your comedy club, testing if your frame is strong and game is tight. And if you’re getting shot down by a stranger, who doesn’t know your failings, who you just have to hold frame with for a few minutes, then it’s back to the drawing board and fixing your shit. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/09/19 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?Yup, keep on DEERing. Sorry, but we’re not flirting. We’re not in a power dynamic. We’re on reddit, in a subreddit with the word “debate” in it. I’m here to discuss stuff, so going “neener neener you’re DEERing” doesn’t make any sense. So why are you here? Trying to push an agenda from a losing position so you resort to quippy, ignorant remarks? The fact is that she's with you out of fear. That isn't game. Stop calling it that. I tried that, pre-MRP. It really doesn’t work, you can’t build attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 08:40 PM |
| 5 | OYS. Go post now. Maybe find your Morpheus.Spot on, man. Having been Morpheus to a few guys, it is a very rewarding experience. Part of it is how it tests your insights, you reflect on stuff you hadn’t thought consciously about for a long time and maybe even something you let slide without noticing. But most importantly it just feels right, helping a fellow man, giving it back. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 25/09/19 08:17 PM |
| 12 | Be careful about what you read here. Be aware of false prophetsAnd the incels, MRAs and noobs are the vast majority here, so you can’t trust the voting either. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/09/19 05:46 PM |
| 1 | The amount of guys complaining about not getting laid, without doing anything to better themselves, is too high.You know, you could just become red and be the one doing the pumping and dumping? Or you could be the good guy alpha who keeps them if that's what you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?What exactly did you read on attachment theory? What you're saying is quite at odds with the literature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?And I clearly answered she was doing the submissive sex kitten thing already but I was fed up with her insecurities fucking shit up from time to time. You seem to be discussing in bad faith, you replied to the post where I "didn't deny that", just a few posts up, yet here you are misrepresenting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?I think you should study the psychology of it instead. I can recommend David Howe's Attachment Across the Lifecourse. If you want to read a tome on it, Attachment in Adulthood by Mikulincer/Shaver is extremely in depth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?We tried counselling, she's done therapy. I tried everything out there on how to fix a marriage, for years. None of it worked, like at all. MRP though, everything it said was spot on. 6 months later, my marriage was better than I could have ever hoped for. I've seen many other guys make the same journey. You're just misguided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?Attachment styles are formed in childhood and are very hard to change. MRP marriage, in which men try to terrorize their wives into giving them pornstar sex by hinting they'll cheat or leave otherwise! This just shows you haven't looked into the subject. I can tell you from experience, pre-MRP we were on the brink of divorce and threatening with that didn't do a damn thing. With MRP, I didn't have to do that anymore, and everything became way better. And it isn't just pornstar sex you get, it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?That's not how it works, and even if something does sound silly to you, reality doesn't necessarily conform to your sensibilities. To quote from https://jebkinnison.com/bad-boyfriends-the-book/fearful-avoidant/ they realize they need and want intimacy, but when they are in a relationship that starts to get close, their fear and mistrust surfaces and they distance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Is this the inevitable conclusion of TRP?Not really. Say you're an MMA fighter, and some keyboard warrior who never trained starts calling himself a fighter because he's watched a lot of UFC. That's not a fighter. The red pill is a praxeology, not an ideology. And oppression of women certainly isn't the endpoint of that, rather the contrary since alphas don't need it. Some red pill vets do have neoreactionary and/or oppressive beliefs, but it is very far from all of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?It didn't really manifest itself until I became red and alphaed up, and by that time we had 2 kids. In essence, her issues make her fuck shit up when she's happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 11:08 AM |
| 11 | Is this the inevitable conclusion of TRP?I'm 100% red pill. Everything it says about female behavior is true (some individuals say some crazy shit that I won't stand behind obviously). I'm also 100% for freedom. Women are free to do what they want, say what they want. Any oppression, against men or women, is inherently wrong. I don't care that betas get treated like shit, or women have different values, or whatever the problem is. They're people, they're entitled to freedom, period. What I think you're missing here is that most of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?Yes, though you're putting quite the spin on events. My wife has some nasty attachment issues that manifest in many places including the bedroom, that I was fed up with dealing with already, even before her "accidental" pregnancy. If you think that she wasn't really into me and didn't want to be my dream girl, go dig up the thread because that's exactly what she said. She was already doing the submissive sex kitten thing, but she'd just fuck shit up with her attachment issues from time to time w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 10:38 AM |
| 3 | Q4all: What role does seduction/"game" play in attracting women?Both for me and the guys I coached, they clearly play off each other. You start with frame (who you are, confidence, assertiveness), and then you add some game. That makes girls respond to you better, that adds some abundance mentality and outcome independence, which is the basis for working on strengthening your frame further. And with stronger frame, you can pull off more advanced game, and in that way you go back and forth between the two and it becomes a positive upward spiral. Trying one wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 07:02 AM |
| 0 | Q4All: What do you mean by submissive?Explain what you think “submissive” means. Lays there and acts passive? Wants him to do all the work? Wants to be the sub in BDSM? Violent role play? I have no SM tendencies, a slight interest in bondage but not really, though I'm dominant. Not any sort of angry, yelling commands all the time, I just want her to do what I want, follow commands when I give them and work to please me with enthusiasm. The boundaries of it are during sex, and during daily flirtatious interactions. We're not in 24/7 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 06:51 AM |
| 1 | On The Nature of SubmissionWhat is submission? How can I better understand it? How can I use it to my advantage? There is little mileage in "understanding" the internal process of it. Just look at her behavior. When you're dominant, that's in itself attractive, she responds by submitting OR she challenges you. Challenging you is a often a form of flirting, overcome it and then she'll submit. Being dominant when she has submitted is easy. If she hasn't submitted, you show dominance be being unaffected by what she and other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/19 06:38 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Bloops assuming "insecurity" is the reason men can't get dates is unfairly blaming them for their problems.I said “their own failings”. And even if I lost my legs, blaming whoever did it to me instead of getting the best out of life is just making things worse. It sounds like you’re promoting victim mentality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/19 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4All, how relevant/important is PPD (not the subreddit, but the general naked conversation re heterosexual dating in the western world) to the grander scheme of things? To the future of our culture, policies, etc.The only purpose it serves is to spread red pill awareness. And there are so many people pushing the blue pill agenda that I don't see it having any sort of wide spread success. In a rational world, the red pill would spread, but look at the stupid shit people believe, I don't have any hopes for it. There are some guys who will take the advice, and helping those is worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/19 12:00 PM |
| 3 | 50-50: Using The Red Pill to try to accomplish Blue Pill goalsThat's not how it works. This whole "bored" thing is mostly something betas made up to justify their shitty experiences with women, just like "attraction doesn't last in a relationship". | /r/TheRedPill | 24/09/19 11:51 AM |
| 2 | For married people, what surprises you the most about marriage?If there are massive differences (which could challenge some people a lot), do you think this is the reason for high divorce rates? I think that if men knew exactly how shitty betas get treated post-ring and post-children, there would be either way fewer men getting in to it, so we'd get lower divorce rates, or way more men who alphaed up and still got married, leading to lower divorce rates. I can't say which tendency would be strongest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/19 08:56 AM |
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