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I don't care about that. I doubt any of us do. Plus we are not all the same. The one rule is take what you like and leave the rest. Sure there are ranters and ravers, but the points we make about sexual strategy and male-female interactions are spot on. My life has changed massively since I took the Red Pill. Despite everything I had been tokd, I was shocked to find this worked and that my pedestalization of women was divorced from reality.

I hope your relationship goes well. But you really do not understand us or the breadth of opinion we have here. There are younger members who are just figuring things out and plenty of political ranters. But the idea that men should look out for themselves first in sexual relationships is a brilliant one that both men and women can appreciate. Women hate the "nice guy" who thinks he is entitled to women's attention just for being a regular friend. We hate "nice guys" too. From experience, we see that living a lifestyle that is masculine is what women desire in men. We aim to provide that to women.

The first part of each of our journeys involves the anger phase. Anger at women for not meeting society's version of the "women are wonderful" stereotype. So you get a lot of anger at women here. Most of it justified in the individual case.

But we go through that and learn to love women for who they are. That's a good thing.

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No, you don't. That is not what you're learning here. All I read is misogynists ranting about how we're basically just witches that want to devoid you of all your masculinity and worth. All I hear is that we need to be somewhat controlled and told what to do in order to be functional. All I hear is that "men should look out for themselves first in sexual relationships" shit that you just said. Egotistic and unrealistic.

You aren't learning to love women for who they are. You are learning to find that one that's mouldable enough to put up with the idea that you and your dick will always come first. Dude, you don't respect women; it's pretty clear that you're another of those guys who has suffered some kind of disillusion with a chick and comes here crying about how women aren't what you thought they were. "Why don't they wanna suck my dick?" Always the same story about why the world isn't what you want it to be anymore.

Guess why? Because you aren't the only existing thing and others apart from the ol' you have the ability to shape reality now.

Please quit crying about it already and focus on being yourself and the best version of it. If that's not enough... don't try to play around it. Own up to it and receive a warm welcome to reality, where people have the ability to decide whether they like you or not.

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No, you don't. That is not what you're learning here. All I read is misogynists ranting about how we're basically just witches that want to devoid you of all your masculinity and worth. All I hear is that we need to be somewhat controlled and told what to do in order to be functional. All I hear is that "men should look out for themselves first in sexual relationships" shit that you just said. Egotistic and unrealistic.

Sure, there are folks who say misogynist stuff. They are just starting out and angry that the "women are wonderful" effect caused them to believe things about women that are not true and that they were not looking out for themselves first.

As for "men looking out for themselves first" if we do not look out for ourselves first, who will? What kind of justice is there when one sex is told to blindly put their trust in the goodwill of the other, no matter what happens? I am certain that you would agree that everyone has to look out for themselves.

You aren't learning to love women for who they are. You are learning to find that one that's mouldable enough to put up with the idea that you and your dick will always come first. Dude, you don't respect women; it's pretty clear that you're another of those guys who has suffered some kind of disillusion with a chick and comes here crying about how women aren't what you thought they were. "Why don't they wanna suck my dick?" Always the same story about why the world isn't what you want it to be anymore.

On the contrary, we have one answer for why women do not want to suck our dicks--that we are not providing them a package that is attractive enough. Many do come here thinking they are entitled to a woman's sexual interest. Anyone who learns anything here learns that that isn't the case. Women cheat or fail to suck our dicks because we were not attractive enough. If I do not say that me and my dick come first, who will do that? A woman? Hardly. She will pursue her own interests, and after one has passed through the anger phase, one realizes that that is how it should be and that there is nothing wrong with that.

As for the "moldability" claim, we do not "mold" women. We interact with who they are, not society's claim of who they are.

Please quit crying about it already and focus on being yourself and the best version of it.

That, frankly, is the Red Pill in one sentence. You prove our beliefs while condemning them. Our best version of ourselves is to serve ourselves first. That is what women want, sexually, from my experience. They want to see that you can take care of yourself, which means you are a fit partner. What we don't do is buy into the belief that women are morally superior in sexual situations, because they are not. When I took the Red Pill, I immediately changed my diet and began an intense exercise regimen and learned how to look out for myself. The first thing I noticed? A lot of women with BFs or husbands began hitting on me a lot after I lost 60 lbs of fat and put on 15 lbs of muscle. I learned that society's image of women--sexually self-sacrificing and always pure--was totally wrong. That's what we fight against. Intrasexual competition in mating exists and ignoring it is to ignore the humanity of women.

I am much, much older than you. I suffered under the beliefs that you call correct. Only later in life did I come to the Red Pill. I learned so much then and now that I live this way, many, many more women are attracted to me. I cannot even begin to tell you how big the difference was or how quickly it came on. The truth was indisputable because women suddenly found me attractive when before I was always the one looking for scraps of affection.

I don't expect you to understand us. I only ask that you think before you come to our place and start harassing us for no reason. Why are you so concerned with our lives? If we are wrong, then women will reject us wholesale. The fact that we are more attractive than the "nice guys" who use covert contracts to get scraps of love and demand to be loved despite not being attractive is testimony to the reality we have learned.

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But why do you keep acknowledging that there is some kind of "strategy"? There isn't one! It just happens or it doesn't, point blank period. You can be the strongest, most attractive, handsome, clever man in the world and there will still be a great deal of women who won't like you. What I see this forum to be is a place where you "experiment" with women thinking that it is possible to make them go the way you want them to go even when they openly don't want to. That's what bothers me.

Standard operating procedure :P Yes, it is. But apparently some guys here think that some Dan Bilzerian alpha male will appear out of the blue making hearts pop out of her eyes and rob her from me before my very vision. Lel.

Also, I used demeaning names based on what I've read from here, which is a great deal, and from the things that I've researched myself trying to find something fully respectable. What if I told you that my female instinct tells me that the vast majority of hetero women would be outraged to see what you guys are talking about here? Just by looking at the names of the threads, the ways in which you plot about them, the manner in which you seem to not be ready to consider their views or opinion when you want to choose a certain path. I'm really, positively sure they wouldn't like this at all.

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But why do you keep acknowledging that there is some kind os "strategy"? There isn't one! It just happens or it doesn't, point blank period. You can be the strongest, most attractive, handsome, clever man in the world and there will still be a great deal of women who won't like you. What I see this forum to be is a place where you "experiment" with women thinking that it is possible to make them go the way you want them to go even when they openly don't want to. That's what bothers me.

No we don't say anything of the sort. Women do have strategies for mating. All animals have strategies for mating. Humans are animals. Therefore humans have strategies for mating. We do not say we can get every woman. In fact we say the opposite and move on quickly instead of stupidly banging our head against a brick wall.

Standard operating procedure :P Yes, it is. But apparently some guys here think that some Dan Bilzerian alpha male will appear out of the blue making hearts pop out of her eyes and rob her from me before my very vision.

This sub isn't about you. It has nothing to do with stealing your fiancee. Why do you think that your fiancee would be going after a guy? Is she bi? Has she made statements about this?

Put another way, we always say--you don't own women, you rent. The same goes for you.

What if I told you that my female instinct tells me that the vast majority of hetero women would be outraged to see what you guys are talking about here?

I would agree. Women hang on desperately to the saintly image we were discussing earlier. They will not acknowledge that they do terrible things to men in romantic situations. They justify maltreatment of every kind. And they sure as hell plot against men. Women assist and enable their friends in cheating, providing excuses and alibis, you-go-girl encouragement and the like. They don't like to hear that we know this. They want to believe they are really nice people all of the time. Not so. They are as evil as men. See Eagly, Alice H.; Mladinic, Antonio (1994), "Are people prejudiced against women? Some answers from research on attitudes, gender stereotypes, and judgments of competence", European Review of Social Psychology, 5: 1–35. Our threads use tough language because that is the only thing that gets men to wake up to the hypergamous reality around them.

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I said that because someone here said (knowing nothing of me, her or our relationship) that eventually an alpha will appear and rob her from me. Just like that lol. And yes, she considers herself bi since she had always been with men before being with me. But no, I definitely don't think that she will go or will want to go after a guy.

I gotta agree with you that some women are very bad. The difference with them being very bad to you is that you as a man don't have reasons to think that she's going to end up killing you, but that's another story (I'm just pointing that out to mark the difference between our badness and your badness). But yes, some women can psychologically kill you if they want, 100% agreement on that. If there are people out there trying to maintain the ideal that all women are saints, then they're plain and simply stupid. And most importantly, harming us even more in the meantime.

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Guess what my boy?

I am old enough to be your father. I think, upon reflection, that you do not mean to be disrespectful to someone who has not called you names.

It's always about you, and has always been so. You're just mad that this has changed over the course of the last couple decades. It's terrible to take something from you guys, you proceed to make it a big drama that could even possibly wipe out humanity with it and all.

Which one is it? It cannot be always about us and also have changed over the last couple of decades. We agree it has changed and that therefore our expectations have to change too. If we are no longer the paternalistic force taking care of everyone, why should we then not take care of ourselves. If women are now going to act in their own sexual interest all of the time, why should men not act in their own sexual interest now. If you are no longer the fainting damsel in distress but a fully empowered woman, what on earth is wrong with us empowering ourselves as well?

As for the big drama posts--every sub has them. Sure, so and so 17-year old thinks the world will be destroyed by feminism or that Trump will save masculinity. We all know that isn't true. Personally, I see feminism as women trying to redefine their own roles and they are welcome to do so. However, I will not be changing my self-interested behavior because they are crying victim. You know who does the things that women hate? Betas. Who sexually harasses? (making sexual overtures to women that are not interested?) Betas. You know who says don't shit where you eat and engage in sexual relations at work? The Red Pill.

Mental tricks to make them be what you want them to be.

Name one trick. Not just vague hand-waiving but an actual trick.

If they aren't sucking your dick anymore, you should probably think about the probability of you being the one in the wrong.

That is the entire point of this sub. To take responsibility for that. Where we differ is that you think that if we supplicate to women and do as they like we will get our dicks sucked more. That's not our experience. Being the "nice guy" gets our dicks sucked much less. Instead, women want men who take charge of their own lives and demonstrate value through that.

Women will be whatever they want to be and there's nothing you can do about it.

We totally agree. We only disagree as to what women are. We can do something about it, which is to embrace our masculinity. Women can and should have feminism for themselves. But we will have masculism--standing up for ourselves. What is wrong with that? How can it be that it is ok for women to stand up for themselves, but not men?

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1) She fell in love with me hard and kept being love even when I told her I didn't correspond her feelings. 2) I can't be a slave to something I actually like to do and that comes out of me naturally. 3) She is not in need of love or affection, she could have it elsewhere so she's not doing anything with me, it just flows and is something true. 4) I have gone through as much suffering as you guys when you've been rejected by girls because they just weren't for you, not more, not less. 5) My new master? Wow, I'm pretty sure I'm actually her master my man. 6) I have already failed her a couple times when I was sad and careless because of problems that have nothing to do with our relationship. But I have acknowledged them, put a solution to them and everything keeps going like silk. 9) For your information, even though I'm the "chick who's always been lesbian" she's the one who spurs me forward tumbling down all the insecurities I might have about not being able to please or fulfill her how she wants and needs: basically, she's constantly telling me that I'm much more than enough. 10) Suck it up.

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Then that's a good thing for you to do. But you gotta understand that me and my little twitter friends are overly scared about some things that those "new kids on the block" are saying. You gotta understand that some of them are more than capable of harassing, insulting, mistreating women. Take away those other guys in who you believe and that I will also have to believe in I guess: realize that we are genuinely scared.

Mental strength is key if you wanna be with someone, whoever they are. The higher standards that person has, the higher your mental strength has to be. It's the typical "you can't be loved if you don't love yourself" stuff. But I do have a problem when I come in here and see that men and women are supposed to have different roles, that one hast to be the mentally strong one while the other kind of rewards him with what she "has to give". I believe that both have to be mentally strong and give and that's one of the reasons why I'm here.

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We do not have agendas. It would be good that you stopped thinking of us as some kind of machine that has everything controlled, set and calculated and realized that we're as human as you are and are trying to do and be the best we can, at least the 90% of us. Just like I have come to respect and believe in some things that you guys have told me within this thread, please do me a favor and make this sink into your soul: we do not have an agenda. We want to be loved and have sex as much as you do, we want to be liked and know that we have to work for that as much as you do, we are no different in that!

That saintly image as you call it is worse for us than it is for you. According to society we gotta be this and that and we're tired of that, that's why we're rebelling and tumbling down some things that hurt you guys in the way. Reflect for a second and you'll realize that what you've actually been taught is that people in general are nice, great, saintly and don't mean harm to you: people in general, not just women. What you're doing is learning that the world isn't the place you always thought it was but you're unfairly focusing that on women, and I repeat, that is super unfair.

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OK, you do know what a straw man argument is, right? You are really engaging in a long series of telling us what we believe and attacking us.

We do not have agendas. It would be good that you stopped thinking of us as some kind of machine that has everything controlled, set and calculated and realized that we're as human as you are and are trying to do and be the best we can, at lest the 90% of us.

Every human being has an agenda. We all want things. You guys have the advantage in a lot of interpersonal things because our fathers and mothers don't teach us this stuff. We don't think of you as machines--but you guys have a bunch of things that you do in female-male relationships that the feminist dialog does not acknowledge, like hypergamy.

That saintly image as you call it is worse for us than it is for you. According to society we gotta be this and that and we're tired of that, that's why we're rebelling and tumbling down some things that hurt you guys in the way. Reflect for a second and you'll realize that what you've actually been taught is that people in general are nice, great, saintly and don't mean harm to you: people in general, not just women.

I agree that it can be worse for you than us. As for what we are taught, no we are taught that other men are our enemies. We are not taught to blindly trust them--we are taught they are our competitors. I should know, I am a man.

What you're doing is realizing that the world isn't the place you always thought it was but you're unfairly focusing that on women

It isn't unfair. We are focusing on women because this is a sub for sexual strategy for heterosexual men. What are we going to focus on, constitutional law? No. We are going to focus almost exclusively on the behavior of women because that is the entire purpose of this sub.

We don't doubt that you want to be loved and have as much sex as we do. In fact, you have more than we do.

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I'm also repelled by the fact that some women practice 0-love-hypergamy just for the sake of their interests. But you gotta understand that, as much as you have been taught that the rest of men are your competitors, a lot of women are taught that the easiest way to a comfortable life is a man with a fat wallet: feminism is surely fighting against that notion by redefining our role in society.

I stand by my point that women might be uphold as saintly and stuff, but the fact that some aren't doesn't justify that there's a whole enormous sub about how to "trick around" their actual evil nature to get what you want. This sub is constructed upon resentment and you know that. And I guess you also know that can't be good, and it brings to generalizations.

I think the best thing you can learn from this place is: when you do what you gotta do, women love you. If they don't, it's not because they're not as saintly as they told you, it's because you are a wreck. Let that sink in for a second.

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How are assertive, mentally strong, and attractive not long term traits? But yes I do have long term traits but I don't just dump them on every girl. She has to prove to me she isn't like other girls if she wants the long term stuff. This world is filled with snakes, so it would be foolish for men not to recognize this because wether you want to accept it or not, women and even men will take advantage of someone willing to give all up front. And many generations of men as of late have been taught wrong and have been taught that giving all to a woman will get her to like you. But it's really simple, you don't give everything until she shows you she's worth it, stay unpredictable and stoic, and best be damn good at fucking. It's not misogyny, it's making sure that if a relationship ends, your whole world won't end with it.

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And this is all true. You don't give somebody the real deal until they prove their value to you. Why do you seem to think this is something that goes only man -> woman? We do that as well lol, everyone protects themselves from people they want to know, but ultimately don't know.

Those traits can be long term, but they mostly base themselves on things that are really hard to maintain at the same level over time. Strong mentality can fall off at a certain point in your life when something proves your nerves. Assertive, that can change too if your general interests change. Attractive, that sure does change if you don't take care of yourself 100% every single day. So as you see, things aren't as easy as they look like and a guy that thinks he's hot shit now (and probably is) can turn to being shit in a heartbeat if he really has nothing else but what he showed in the first dates.

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I'll speak for myself, can't speak for TRP or anyone else.

First, I don't think you're in our target group as men, so we don't really care about what or how you think. You're lesbians.

You take what inexperienced and confused people say and use it against TRP, but they are not TRP, they just want to learn. That's like calling a supermodel unnatractive because she gives tips to a whale.

The people that are TRP though, Vanguards, authors and such, are way above you. They have (or can have) harems of hot women, experience and a frame that is unyielding, which you would find out immediately if they cared enough to give you the time of day.

Two endorsed people bothered to reply and they basically gave you the smallest of hints of how little you and your little twitter party means to them. Of what would happen if you posted in the parent sub. Not because they're evil or mysogynists, but because you're just irrelevant to them. It's not an act, it's them. They don't act like you and your internet "friends" do, they're not trying to impress anybody. A guy who is seeing and fucking 5 different hot women, real hot and real feminine women not the stereotypical feminist kind, will not care about your shit or care to prove anything to you.

TRP way is what top males do and how they think. It's what top females want (hint, not you or your girl or your mangina friends).

You're not going to win anything here, and your twitter parties as well as the ugly women and manginas that join them mean nothing.

p.s I am pretty sure you can't "fulfill" her completely. If I were you I'd keep in mind that the moment a high enough value alpha male appears and is interested in her, she'll jump on him in a heartbeat. You don't want your world come crashing down.

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I was kind of respecting your point until your little "ps.". This is why you can't get laid or have your dick sucked dude... because you try to attack women on their softest spots. You're wired to hit us on the spot where it hurts the most and of course we aren't going to like that at all.

Newsflash: you're talking to somebody who knows their worth and that's most probably gone through more than you. You saying that shit actually only makes me even more sure and strong about my choices and personality. This is how I know that there still are people out there who are desperately trying to find the light at the end of the tunnel. I think I'm beginning to understand why you guys come together here: because every now and then you have the chance to unleash your insecurities in the form of hurting comments that will wipe off the "betas" and strengthen the "alphas". The good ol' "life is pain and suffering" trademarked by masculine macho mans.

Next time you wonder why women don't like you, think of how bitter and vindictive you are. It's sad that it has no effect on me, though ;)

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I don't think I'm better than anyone she ever had, in fact my thoughts go in the other direction and that's why I make myself be great every single one day of our relationship. Because I don't take shit for granted and I don't believe that she's going to stay around just because she made a commitment to me in the first place.

What I do believe is that none of those "everyone she ever had" thought of their relationship with her to be lasting, which is something that I do think about. The men she was with thought of that relationship as another one within their lifetime "serial monogamy", if you know what I mean. What's the proof of that? That even though she's been with a pair of them for over a year she's never felt like it was a forever thing, and she does think that with me. I'm the only one she has ever wanted to marry.

[–]hornofamoose0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't think I'm better than anyone she ever had, in fact my thoughts go in the other direction and that's why I make myself be great every single one day of our relationship. Because I don't take shit for granted and I don't believe that she's going to stay around just because she made a commitment to me in the first place.

Maybe you're more RPW than you're willing to admit then. So you do treat the gun as if it's loaded, I don't see why my advice bothered you that much.

What I do believe is that none of those "everyone she ever had" thought of their relationship with her to be lasting, which is something that I do think about. The men she was with thought of that relationship as another one within their lifetime "serial monogamy", if you know what I mean. What's the proof of that? That even though she's been with a pair of them for over a year she's never felt like it was a forever thing, and she does think that with me. I'm the only one she has ever wanted to marry.

It's funny, you sound like the romantic guys that come here and don't know how women think. You're the only one...to a woman...she loves you... the marriage...Well, this can't possibly go wrong now, can it?

[–]arcticw0lf 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]hornofamoose0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I just know that if I want things in life I have to work for them and if I don't I can't blame it on anyone else.

So you agree with TRP.

Of course it can go wrong. Life isn't a written story, I don't know what the future holds, but I do know that the intention is there right now and that counts very much.

Of course, the intention is always there "right now". And what do you do? You improve your chances that things go well, and are prepared for things not going well. TRP tells you how and why.

Now tell me, what is there that I don't know about how women think? Is there anything you wanna tell me?

A few things. I want to tell you that your girl's story sounds awfully familiar. She had alpha males that had many women, but would she be attracted to them if they weren't alpha males? Did she hit the wall and decided to settle? Did she fail to have one commit to her? Maybe the alpha males are not "evil" manipulative men, maybe she's wasn't good enough to meet their high standards. Are you aware of the term "Alpha Widow"? Are you aware of female hypergamy? So many things...so many possibilities...You sound like the beta guy women settle for after they've ridden the CC.

And that's from the top of my head, I didn't even read the whole sidebar. You tell your stories to the main sub and a Vanguard or author or mod will bother with you, they will, pardon, rip you a new one.

Have you forgotten that I'm a woman lel?

No, but the way you think is like a romantic guy.

Special...love...forever...

https://therationalmale.com/2011/12/27/women-in-love/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4i219p/rule_6a/

Women are not like men.

[–]arcticw0lf 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Okay let me keep giving you hints.

She's just turned 20, so I really don't think she has hit the wall at all. Pure logic right there.
She is the typical woman who has always had every guy she wanted. All of them committed to her fully until there was some kind of event that sparked the end of the relationship. That's pretty much standard procedure, what usually happens (talking about how those relationships ended).
In the most cases it was the other way around. They didn't meet her high standards. In a couple of occasions she broke it up while still loving them because they were being whiny, annoying, weak.
Basically before me she had the rudder of her romantic life not because she was dating betas (I know all of them and can assure you they aren't) but because if a relationship doesn't meet her standards she's likely to want to break it. Just like you guys.
I'm still pissed because of what you said about an alpha male coming and robbing her from me. I think you should really apologize for that. I don't know, think of me as a man and probably you'll feel it easier to be said.

[–]hornofamoose0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Ok.
Sure, unless the event is the alpha male dumping her or refusing to commit to her.
So she despises betas. Shocking...But in the other cases, just need one really, it WAS the other way around. And I doubt a "whiny, annoying, weak" man would dump her. Right? Alpha male? And I doubt she "loved" those other weak men, she might've confused her pity with love.
You contradict yourself. What you say is impossible. She'd never had the rudder with an alpha male, those "most cases" were betas, period. And they disgusted her, as expected. Our standards differ, we don't care about preselection for example.
I didn't wish it or something, there's nothing to apologize for. I suggested you be prepared for the possibility. It may never happen, but TRP suggests you treat the gun as if it's loaded, if it doesn't fire, cool. You share that thought, you said you don't take things for granted.

You see, you can't control women, you're not supposed to mateguard women, if she wants to go she'll go. The only thing you can do is improve yourself to minimize the chance she'll leave you for someone better, and be prepared to do what you have to if she goes.

[–]arcticw0lf 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

About 3) She has always been the one who broke it up. The most alpha one of them "earned it" by talking to a girl through twitter dm's. She learned about it and broke up instantly even though she still loved him very much and he had only exchanged two or three mostly harmless texts. There was no coming back when she made her decision. Also, I don't know, but I really don't think she pitied any of them really. She isn't one to waste her time as you see. She is there until she decides she won't anymore for a reason. About 4) But they didn't disgust her until something happened. Examples: twitter dm's, one of them showed no interest in seeing her through the summer, others just faded away as mostly casual relationships. I think the 2 who I gave those examples about were definitely alpha. About 5) I'm one to be prepared for the worst things in life; people call me negative because of that but I know I'm not, I just like to prepare for the worst because that makes me appreciate the best even more (and because I've had it generally rough, too).

You're basically telling me to not believe in pure love then...

[–]hornofamoose1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You're basically telling me to not believe in pure love then...

You read the links? Women, according to TRP, are capable of love but it's different.

"She’s not incapable of love in the way she defines it, she’s incapable of love as you would have it. She doesn’t lack the capacity for connection and emotional investment, she lacks the capacity for the connection you think would ideally suit you."

"If women cannot love you the way you want to be loved, then you want the wrong kind of love."

"Men believe that love matters for the sake of it. Women love opportunistically."

"I really, really, really hope the myth that girls are the hopeless romantics gets kicked to the curb ASAP. Everyone needs to realize that men are the “romantics pretending to be realists” and women; vice versa"

"Women are incapable of loving men in a way that a man idealizes is possible, in a way he thinks she should be capable of."

Men who want Protective Love from women are broken men.

Women are capable of love. They are capable of self-sacrifice. They are capable of devotion. But to receive it, you must abandon ideals from your mother. You must put away childish things. You must stop expecting women to sympathize with you or be concerned for your safety or welfare. Instead, you must decide for yourself what your needs are, and demand them as a condition of your protection and care.

Who are you? The romantic. I am the romantic aswell. But I know it can't happen. The moment it happens I am weak. I have no options. I am a beta. I am not the man she was attracted to.

Not exactly the same, but read this.

"You gotta understand, once you say to yourself, “This is the last woman that I’m ever gonna be with,” that’s like when…you know what that’s like? I’ll tell you what that’s like. That’s like when in Superman 2, when that muhfucka had a choice between losing his powers to be with that ugly Lois Lane. And everybody just goes, “Did you just lose your FUCKING superpowers for this MONSTER?” And then he gets his ass beat at the diner? That is a guy who decides to be faithful for the rest of life. He gave away his superpowers, man.

And a bitch don’t appreciate it. Now, now the bitch don’t like you no more, and she goes, “You’re not—you’re, you’re nothing. I married you because you were Superman.” But bitch, the only way I could be with you was to NOT be Superman. Now you realized you made a mistake. Now you walking through the snow, now you’re walking through Antarctica, trying to find your green crystal, nigga! Trying to look for the Fortress of Solitude, because you realized you’re a fucking idiot, because you gave some bitch all your powers! And that’s what we do! We give a bitch all our powers and they get beat up in a diner by some motherfucker."

or

"You're a sport fisherman. You catch this fish... and like any other sportsman... you show it to your friends... you take a picture... you look at it.... and you throw it back in the water. Any girlfriend, or wife or a significant other... is a fish that jumped back onto your boat. This fish will flap around on your boat and run all the other fish away. And you tell this fish what your job is but she says, when she flops back on the boat, "Is that all I am to you?" And as a man, with this dichotomy, you say "No... no you're the fish for me and I'm not a piece of shit. You're the last fish I wanted to catch." So, now, you're dating. Next, the fish says, "You love me?" and you reply, "Yea, yes I love you fish." And the fish says, "Well, then, now that you love me... why do you still have your boat? And this pole? And the bait?" So what she is saying is that she wants you to stop being what you were to get her. It was your job and what made you come together but you give that up. And one day down the road you're with your fish and she just looks at you and says... "You don't even have a boat. Look at that guy over there. He has a boat. You used to be this great fisherman."

You see, the point is not to get married, not to commit, not to love. It's that women are not attracted to you in this romantic way. This is killing the same men they are initially attracted to, that's why they can't change like that. That's why the "mean alpha males" don't change like that. So even if a man would want nothing more than pure love, the woman will hate him. Because he'll become weak.

Not exactly like that, but you get the point.

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Title	This is gonna go very fast.
Author	arcticw0lf
Upvotes	0
Comments	106
Date	November 30, 2016 6:18 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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