Too aggressive/what could I learn from this

Terdmuffin · 2020-01-05T15:03:57+00:00

You have the right idea but you're being too aloof and only pushing. It doesn't sound like you're being aggressive but eventually it reaches a point like "why won't this guy even tell me his age? That's weird".

I was recently at a bar and met a chick and she asked my age and I said 73. We laughed and I told her my real age. You have to be able to create tension and break it.

FereallyRed · 2020-01-05T17:04:50+00:00

Girl one thought you were underage. So either go the other way "I'm actually 64 but I use sunscreen." or pressure flip... "How old are you?".

Girl 2 used it as an opener, but you bit down and wouldn't let go. Change the subject. Stop being led by her running the convo. Take charge. She was interested in you but you didn't step up.

You are reactive. Get out in front and start leading, making them reactive to you. Keep your eyes on your goal.

2030isCloserThan2003 · 2020-01-05T14:56:33+00:00

If you’re young looking then women will simply keep testing you about it bc they expect for u to be lying & to say you’re 21 or something, even though you’re older.

I don’t think there’s anything else you could’ve said except that saying “I’m old enough to be here”, maybe wasn’t the answer she was looking for. She might have still thought that you snuck in underraged. I would’ve just said my real age the 2nd time & then changed the topic after that.

Hubblenobbin · 2020-01-06T02:20:11+00:00

I got in here didn’t I

Over-gaming or you had bad subcoms.

Okay based on the second one it sounds like these girls liked you and you over-gamed and thus looked insecure.

" They switch gears to asking serious questions when you pass the “hook point” where
they’re actually interested in you (so you’ve entered A2 accordin to Mystery Method). They’re
interested/attracted at this point so they want some real answers to make sure it’s safe to
continue being attracted to you.
If you keep teasing, they get frustrated because they want to be attracted to you but they need
some reassurance of who you are first and you won’t give them that so they can’t let
themselves be too attracted and that’s frustrating to them. Eventually they’ll go “fuck it” and
give up lol
The general rule is tease a couple times, then answer for real.
Girl: “what do you do?”
Guy: “I’m the top fry cook at Burger King”
Girl: “lol noooo you’re a liar!!”
Guy: “Keep calling me names and I won’t let you use my employee discount.”
Girl: “lolol c’mon I wanna know for real”
Guy: “I work at (job).”
Girl: “omg I knew you were lying lolol I love (job)!”
So there’s a bit of a tease but then you let her have an answer. As you go from Attraction to
Comfort (again using MM as a guide here), you tone down the teasing and only sprinkle it in
here and there because you’re building a connection.
The prob with most guys who don’t learn game is they don’t tease at all so the girl doesn’t get a
challenge or feel an emotional rollercoaster of ups and downs, so it looks like:
Girl: “what do you do?”
Guy: “I work at (job).”
Girl: “cool…”
zzzzzzz…same info is revealed to the girl in both cases but one way was emotionally engaging
and fun and attractive, the other was boring and handing her his resume.
The other way guys fuck up is what you’re doing now, where you overgame and don’t pull it
back:
Girl: “what do you do?”
Guy: “I’m the top fry cook at Burger King”
Girl: “lol noooo you’re a liar!!”
Guy: “Keep calling me names and I won’t let you use my employee discount.”
Girl: “lolol c’mon I wanna know for real”
Guy: “ok I’m actually the burger flipper instead of the fry cool.”
Girl: “okay seriously come on”
Guy: “all the free burgers you can eat!”
Girl: “I just want to know okay??”
Guy: “what kind of burger should I make you?”
Girl: “sigh forget it.” (Delete)
So congrats, you’re making it past A1 into A2. Try pulling back on the teasing when you sense
they’re getting frustrated.
Then ask them the same question they asked you and qualify their answer like “you’re not
making that up are you?” “no I swear!” “Hmmm I love (her answer). You could be trouble for
me.” That will take you from A2 to A3, and from there you start transitioning into Comfort aka
C1.
A lot of this is calibration in the moment…you have to pick up on her vibe. If you can tell she’s
getting frustrated, that’s a good sign because it means you’re able to pick up on that vibe. So
now you just have to apply the right tool/mechanic to that situ to progress things forward.
Some guys are oblivious to what the other person is feeling…this is why we stress field
experience (even just online gaming like you’re doing), because this is an art-form and you have
to learn calibration first-hand, you can’t just read about it and be good at it.
Good luck, keep experimenting!
"

--YaReally

ArnoldT1000 · 2020-01-05T17:22:29+00:00

Don’t be a brick wall. Pass shit tests yeah but be human about it. You’re not a robot.

Mr_Badass · 2020-01-05T19:29:20+00:00

She probably meant aggressive as in hostile because they were playfully asking your age and you took it as an attack.

IXseed · 2020-01-05T19:29:41+00:00

Todd V says something like this. I'm gonna heavily paraphrase.

Think about your conversation with women like a meal. Now, the normal mundane conversation is the "meat" of the meal and the TRP/Game shit you learn is the "spice". You need a good portion of meat and just the right amount of spice to make the meal great.

You learn a lot of stuff here but remember it's all "spice". You still need the meat, which is having a conversation like a human being. Too much spice makes the meal taste bad, but every person wants a different amount of spice. Does that make sense?

Title	Too aggressive/what could I learn from this
Author	SmoothAssumption5
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Comments	11
Date	January 5, 2020 2:51 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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