why does everybody hate the big guy?

failingtheturingtest · 2017-09-21T23:42:43+00:00

Do they? Gym bunnies certainly don't.

We generally refer to it as "tall poppy syndrome" here in Aus. People have a tendency to look at those who have something they don't with contempt because it makes them feel better about not having it.
If we equated being rich with effort, being fit as hard work, being skilled in a particular endeavour (sport, music, art) as commitment, being popular as worthwhile, etc; then we would have to accept that NOT being/having those is our own fault for not putting the effort in.
Much easier to assume everyone who does is a douche, faggot, loser, loner, asshole, whatever.

That being said, fit people don't judge fit people. Good-looking people don't look down on good-looking people. Rich people don't hate rich people. Which is fine with me, because I'm happy that people who don't have the commitment to achieve things in their own life don't waste my time. The people who DO have the muster to make shit happen are the ones I'd prefer to grab a drink with anyway.

amazonri · 2017-09-22T05:03:51+00:00

Hey man, gym rat here.

Ive been lifting for about 5-6 years consistently now and have a good looking face. When you are big, you get a lot of attention. Overall on first glance, women check you out and men respect you.

But theres a dark side mainly with men: they become haters. They will turn into females and try to bring you down instead of raising their own SMV (female strategy). I mainly see this happen with "half-way alphas" around town. These are the guys who arent alpha, or beta, somewhere in between. These guys are the jealous ones because in most situations theyre the AMOG. But when they meet a bigger guy, they will sometimes try to AMOG you.

Its never blaringly obvious, its more of a body language thing. They will try to make eye contact to see if you are the "real deal" and try to do power stances (hands on hips) to try to make themselves feel powerful in your presence. They will over-do these things though, and people will notice and everyone will be watching because the buff guy is the "big fish" and is being tested for dominance. Just male hierarchy stuff.

Two common prototype of men hate on me: Older guys who lost their youth (read:muscle/looks), but think they are more superior because of life experience. And the half-way insecure alpha who is trying too hard.

True alphas I meet never "challenge" you, they give a mutual respect and dont need to prove themselves.

TLDR; Guys will respect you. Some insecure ones will hate on you and try to compete for dominance in an unnatural yet obvious manner: imagine that little skinny "gangster" trying to walk tough and stare you down type of way.

Acropoe · 2017-09-22T14:29:29+00:00

@Everyone.

thank-you for your guys feedback, especially through a red pill paradigm. i really appreciate the insight.

@u/quicklogaccount

your comment about people seeing someone muscular and having a "compensating" mindset really resonates with me. that smirk when i walk past them felt like contempt. i didn't want to mind read too much.. but it makes sense now. most people could be feeling envy or jealousy.. and instead projecting some petty bias about muscular people.

also, i've learned here the value in not becoming superficial/vain. Fitness/ lifting is an important red-pill value.. but it is not everything that completes a man.

Smigg_e · 2017-09-22T08:18:01+00:00

I think people don't like tools. Don't be a tool.

quicklogaccount · 2017-09-22T12:25:58+00:00

It's not everyone, you only get it from folks with image issues. People with issues about body will be sensitive to fit folks, people sensitive about face will be bothered by decent faces, people sensitive about height will be biased against tall folks.

There's an underlying axiom roaming in people's heads. "People can't be good in everything".
If someone with image issues sees you, this person immediately assumes there's something bad about you to make up for it. Usually they'll assume you're superficial or dumb since these are the most common issues associated with people that put any effort on looks.
Once they do create any of those ideas it makes sense that they dislike you. Have you ever chatted with some stupid (gym) bimbo or guy? They're as dull as they come, if someone assumes you're one of these folks they'll be right in avoiding you.

A while ago I was having a really great time with slightly out of shape chicks with image issues, on the "curvy" range. They were easy pick ups, they assumed I was stupid/superficial and all I had to do was talk about some nerdery or not talk about gym and fitness, and it made "perfect". That was until I ended up naked in a room with a hideous chick with a cute face.

Title	why does everybody hate the big guy?
Author	Acropoe
Upvotes	7
Comments	7
Date	September 21, 2017 11:25 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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