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A good tip for text game (posted before, bringing it up again)

rangamatchstick

November 16, 2014

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Title	A good tip for text game (posted before, bringing it up again)
Author	rangamatchstick
Upvotes	0
Comments	27
Date	November 16, 2014 3:24 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2mgx6j/a_good_tip_for_text_game_posted_before_bringing/
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[–]gethereddout 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Was recently reading up on possible solutions for girls who just stop texting all of a sudden, and I came across this absolute pearler I used on a girl I thought was a last cause (same as usual).

Look, you can try this if you want, but at the end of the day, most girls who start flaking or seem ho-hum about you...... you're not going to game them into magically becoming cool people who are excited about you and start becoming reliable. That's not what Seduction really does.

After a day of her not texting back I sent "I give you an F for texting hahaha, how are you going to make it up to me? hahaha", within minutes of sending it three replies to my one and only previous text came through with "Ill make it up to you by trying to make tuesday". Yeh tuesday may not happen, she may flake but its progress.

Not really. She's still acting ambivalent. You just amused her and she responded because of that. But there's no indication that she's a changed girl.

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[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I have date about 35 girls, every SINGLE ONE has not made it to a second date displaying the same symptoms every time.

First of all, you do realize that a lot of guys at Seddit have trouble getting to the point you're at right now? They'd tell you to stop whining because they can't even get number, let alone dates.

IT IS something I am doing, not the girls, its something I am fucking up that not me or anyone has been able to determine the cause of, this is the closest I have gotten and yes it may be a lost cause but its the closest Iev gotten so im going to give it the best shot I can to get something out of it.

Two things here:

If they're shutting down after one date, you're most likely pushing too hard and trying to push them into a 2nd date is only going to make them shut down more.

Also, you haven't laid out any details that I recall about any of those dates. Or else I might be able to weigh in on the problem there. You might elaborate:

How are you meeting these girls?
How are you opening them?
What are you talking about with them? How do you decide what to talk about?
How are you number closing them? Are you only getting their number or exchanging numbers?
What is their typical reaction and feedback at every stage, along the way?
What is your typical first date like? What sort of activity? How do you choose an activity or venue?
What do you do on the date?
Do you try to escalate? How do you determine how much to escalate, and how fast to do so?
What's the usual response to your escalation attempts? What's your reaction to their reaction?

[–]rangamatchstick[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

[–]rangamatchstick[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

"How am I meeting them"- varies, some are daygame in the city, some are at clubs, some are at parties. "How am I opening"- day game canned opener or something I can come up with, varies nothing set, clubs I opened similar to daygame recently trying my take on mystery method mixed with another one. "What are you talking about with them"- Start off with normal banter, try to build abit of common ground going onto interesting topics, usualy with a more seductive tone but more towards the mid to end of the interaction when im onto more sexual topics, this is later for night game due to how the basis of mystery method works. "How are you number closing them"- I will go for the number within the interaction rather than the goal for end, works alot better, seems alot more natural, depends were we are if I try to f-close or go for insta date. "What is the first date like"- I will try to go for something fun, semi secluded were I can do kino, so things like sailing, beach or lake, ice skating or just coffee or drinks if they dont want to. "what do you do on the date"- Kino, never try to kiss them (went weird once), sexual topics but not overly, funny stories ect. "DO you escalate?" Rarely on a first date as it went very weirdly once but have been trying to, just havent had the opportunity .

[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

"How am I meeting them"- varies, some are daygame in the city, some are at clubs, some are at parties.

Nothing wrong here. It's a matter of preference.

"How am I opening"- day game canned opener or something I can come up with, varies nothing set, clubs I opened similar to daygame recently trying my take on mystery method mixed with another one.

Gonna say that canned openers are not the way to go.

"What are you talking about with them"- Start off with normal banter, try to build abit of common ground going onto interesting topics, usualy with a more seductive tone but more towards the mid to end of the interaction when im onto more sexual topics, this is later for night game due to how the basis of mystery method works.

Have you ever tried one of the "Natural" methods? Mystery can be a bit more advanced and it might not even suit your personality.

Also, don't talk about sex unless you never want to have it. Really. You don't need to have "sexual" conversation: in fact it's a good way to kill your chances to have sex.

"What is the first date like"- I will try to go for something fun, semi secluded were I can do kino, so things like sailing, beach or lake, ice skating or just coffee or drinks if they dont want to. "what do you do on the date"- Kino, never try to kiss them (went weird once), sexual topics but not overly, funny stories ect. "DO you escalate?" Rarely on a first date as it went very weirdly once but have been trying to, just havent had the opportunity .

Hmmm. It sounds, off-hand, as if you push too hard without enough attention to the feedback the girl is giving you AS you escalate. If you don't pay enough attention to them as you escalate, you'll shut it down. Couple that with talking about sexual topics, and it can get awkward fast.

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[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Iev tried "natural methods" (by that I mean, just using very basic game were I can) and it yields much poorer results than my current.

Meaning you tried what "natural methods," exactly? What do you mean "basic game?"

There are just a couple of "basics" here.

Connection: being able to hold a conversation. This means being able to talk to strangers of all kinds, not just girls. Being able to get people to open up about themselves.
Kino / escalation: Connection alone will just get you friendship. Kino /escalation will reveal if there is also mutual physical chemistry.
Logistics: provided that sex is wanted, you need a private place to escalate all the way there.

I dont just dive into sexual topics, I mite drop a semi sexual joke or innuendo here and there but only if im getting decent IOI's and im going for a same night lay will I try to change it more sexual, on a date its more casual (although some people on here say that isnt enough and I should be more sexual).

Sexual talk of any kind is not necessary and will actually lessen your chances.

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Only this age once,

All the more reason to cut yourself a break and stop turning your own youth sour, like you are doing now. You are choosing a perspective that is limiting you.

and the hottest girls (IMO) are around this age.....

Couple of things here:

Beauty and sexiness are more than just exterior. Some qualities improve with some experience..... some aspects of a woman's personality are like wine: they improve with age. The attitude of most younger women is often tiresome and annoying. And for all their talk of being mature, they are often just as immature as the men their age that they complain about.
The ones who take care of themselves, will look "hot," well into their 30's, if not longer.
Travel the world a bit. Take Asia for example. The women there age ridiculously well and generally take better care of their bodies then women in the West do. It's easy to be off by 5-10 years when trying to assess the age of an Asian woman in her 30's.

and its only going to get harder getting with this age group as I get older.....

Only because you think it will be. It's pretty easy for someone in his late 20s - mid thirties to easily date girls in their early to mid 20s. I've seen it ALL the time.

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cant really see how it would lead to self loathing? Im not getting with them with the intention to have a relationship with them so im getting what I want.

It's hard to see it until you go there. But when you sleep with some person and they're not someone you'd want to spend time with in the daytime, that wears away at you little by little.

You won't know it until you go through it. If you're meant to go through it, you'll just go down that path and deal with the mess later.

I will also say though, that Seddit is littered with posts by guys who go through some crisis where they feel like they can't ever trust women again, they don't enjoy sex anymore, don't know how to connect with people really, and/or lose sight of who they are. That's the kind of thing that lies further down the path of sleeping with women just because you can, especially when those women are the kind of people you don't like.

The point is, if you are intimate with people you don't like, you will come to dislike yourself for doing so. It's human nature.