Anyone here self improved

quinnmcd · 2020-01-07T13:44:32+00:00

an important lesson I learned while trying to get my shit together the way that I should have still been trying to get experience with women. We think just because we get money, muscles and do interesting things it'll get easier to attract women. It gets easier to keep women around, but we still have to take the risk and approach women.

As long as you're putting yourself in situations to success (going out to events, bars, and parties) then you'll meet women, but you still have approach, flirt, and close. Women aren't going to magically appear you still have to put in the effort to show you're high value. You won't struggle forever as long as you're getting the necessary experience. Take baby steps don't try to make leaps when you're not ready.

MaxHolden939 · 2020-01-07T13:23:36+00:00

It's all about exposure. The best products in the world still require marketing. Women can't magically sense that you have all those boxes ticked. Increase your exposure by joining social activities and through your hobbies (meet-ups, groups etc). Then humbly speak about yourself, and women will come.

scarrax · 2020-01-07T15:38:18+00:00

Financial success, fun lifestyle, being in shape, having an attractive appearance and all that do give you a huge advantage in attracting women, but none of that means jackshit if you don't have the right skills and confidence to actually meet and date women.

But based on your post history I think your mentality is your problem

Chunka23 · 2020-01-07T15:44:20+00:00

Maybe you think you self improved but your improvement still leaves you at the bottom of the pack. Dig harder

I struggled with this for awhile and finally a week or two ago I got DM’d by two women. I still have a very long way to go but attitude wise I have it down packed.

GeeseCTM · 2020-01-07T16:01:16+00:00

It's more common than you think.guys were successful in all spheres of their life but can't figure out how to meet women, right now pretty much all of the students that I've had over the last 10 years have been those guys. It's not weird it's not abnormal. It's more normal than you think. Perfectly good looking, well put together, successful guys, able to afford apartments that are $1,500 or more a month in a high-rise in downtown Chicago,...

Business owners, CEOs, IT, programmers, scientists, physicist, psychologist, police officers, airline pilots..on and on. Some of these guys don't have time to spend New year's in the pickup community trying to figure this stuff out so they hire me. Every industry talks about the benefits of hiring a coach, voice actors, stage acting, business, entrepreneurial, sports, the list goes on and on. But not everybody is in a position to do that and I get that. Which is why I will give you the rundown below.

Some of these guys you would look at it and think they would have absolutely no problem. Some of these guys women were literally throwing themselves at the guys and the guys had no idea what to do with it and they didn't even notice it.

But you can do it. Yes, you guys can learn this stuff. Whether you do it yourself through trial and error, the only caution I would say is make sure, make absolutely sure, that you find at the right information. learn the skills. I'll get to that in a minute.. Don't just go approach. Get out there and learn new skills it should be about 50% learning and studying material (inner and outer game - and don't be afraid to Branch off into some of the self-help experts that aren't even talking about dating.) and 50% getting into the field and applying what you're learning. And even then, if you're going to want to get good at this where you're really proficient, where you can have power and choice over the women that you go out and select, and not just settle for low-hanging fruit, you're going to have to put in your 10,000 hours.

That means study at home, that means going out in the field and doing approaches, applying, adjusting, tweaking, doing more approaches, successes as well as failures. Learning what you can from each experience.

See if you can find guys that are better than you. Way back in the day David DeAngelo was one of the guys that said this. he said, find the guys that are better than you and learn what you can from them.

If you're going out on your journey, over the years you'll probably end up running into a couple of these guys. Try and make friends with them, hang out with them or whatever.

It's a process, it takes a lot of work and it's going to take time effort, money, trial, error, pain, I mean in my journey dude, there were times where I was sitting on the curb crying it was so frustrating. Maybe like once or twice but, there were other times, countless times, where I got super close with a girl that I really liked, and then she slipped through my fingers. There were other times that I got a girl to like me and I hooked up with her and I thought that she was going to be my girlfriend for a while, and then she disappeared for whatever reason.

There were awesome times where I might meet a girl, and then we would date or become Fuck Buddies for a for several months to a year. When you have a monogamous relationship with a girl who's awesome, you can learn things about relationships I suppose, but then your infield ability and learning takes a break and when you break up then you have to go back out and sort of pick it up again. You pick it up much quicker that time, because it's basically just taking off the ring rust, but getting back into the process after a couple years for instance, can be a challenge in and of itself at first.

And there's another moral of the story. You can literally learn from your successes, but your successes at some point can even be something that hold you back from progress. also there has to be a point where, a guy figures out that he's learned enough and moves on, because another problem I see happening with guys as they get stuck in the cycle of playing the game. They're always looking for the next best thing instead of living in the moment. so you have to make sure that you don't get caught up in that negative psycho, almost a toxic psycho, of being more interested in the pickup community, bragging to guys online, trying to pretend that you're an expert or whatever, and even if you throw all of that out, just getting caught in the cycle of going out because you think there's always going to be a better girl even when you're with girls that are absolutely awesome... You got to be careful to avoid that. some guys get more attracted to the pickup community, and being a pickup guy, then they are actually going out and meeting women. It's really weird but it does happen to a lot of people. And some places you'll see these guys posting pictures of every girl that they interact with. They might even take pictures of girls that they never had sex with and post them and talk about how they had sex with a girl so that they can impress other guys on the Internet. It's really weird and creepy after a while. so avoid that trap. Play this game for yourself. Play this game to improve and enrich your life, not to get validation or approval or to impress other guys on the internet..

One last problem is the amount of shyster coaches and bad information out there which is why I'm going to link you to at least a starting point below. I don't know what happened over the last seven to ten years, but the community everywhere, not here, not just on Facebook but everywhere took a giant nosedive. so be really really careful about the information that you read.I almost caution people just to stick with the original people or somebody who was at least knowledgeable of what was going on back in the masf days. and the best way to learn is to not idolize or follow one particular system or nothing, but to Branch out and try and figure out what fits your personality as it already is. Because I think, I don't even know you, but I bet you're an awesome guy already. So don't try and evolve into something else, evolve who you are now and use all these tactics techniques, the material that you come across, inner and outer game, to evolve you as the best you that you can be holding your strengths, eliminating your weaknesses, that kind of thing.

I can go on and on and on and give you a case study on becoming awesome at this. However, let's just give you something that works for that you can start with. I think in another thread I gave out this material.

I actually love giving out this link, because it's exactly where I started, the very first thing I read way back when was this link. Starting with the basic rules. filled with aha moments and things that will actually help you have a map at least to know where you have to go and other material that you should look for.

the website is no longer functional, but it has a ghost ship, so to speak, of information that that is still there.

http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/

And then there's

https://idoc.pub/documents/weapons-of-mass-seduction-by-senor-fingers-zpnxw8pz8g4v

Good luck,

Geese

Title	Anyone here self improved
Author	Newszonion
Upvotes	4
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Date	January 7, 2020 12:59 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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