At which point do you ask her out?

DaygameCoach · 2017-05-27T04:02:14+00:00

You are only damned if you don't. You miss all the shots you don't take.

Deal with your self limiting belief about being "creepy" because if you believe being direct with women (which is what actually works) is creepy, then it's true for you. Plenty of men are VERY direct from the opener....and they know they will blow out repeatedly (maybe 90%), until it hooks, then it hooks really well, actually. Why?

Because men who are direct, are clear in their intent (which works with women), and orbiters who just wait for their chance (pretending to be a friend or waiting for a special bat signal from the girl and afraid to make their move)...are not. That said...I do not approach directly (I'm more indirect playful), but my game IS direct. She knows I'm not looking for a bowling partner--she knows it's sexual interest.

recyclablebanthas · 2017-05-27T06:29:56+00:00

TL;DR: Ask her out when you want to.

It seems as if you ask her out too early, it will be too direct/creepy, and she will reject you. This is because you don't know her yet.

What are you talking about? We hang out with people, precisely for the purpose of getting to know someone. There is nothing creepy about having a conversation with a girl. There is nothing "too direct" about suggesting that two people exchange contact information and meet up later.

Where are you coming up with this?

If you wait until after a few times you have interacted with her, you will get to know her and will be able to "game" her, but by that point it is too late because you would already be in the friendzone.

No. There is so much confusion and misunderstanding about what "game" is. It's just socializing, really. You're using the core skills when you talk to an old lady in a grocery store.

So from the moment you meet someone, you're "gaming." Of course, this term is unhelpful, because some people think it means that we need to manipulate each other, or that this is some sort of competition where men do something one-sidedly to women, who are working against us the whole time.

But getting back to the idea of waiting before asking a girl to hang out...... You can wait a few times and focus on connecting, that's fine. But waiting too long without making any moves at all, while only connecting..... that turns the whole thing into a platonic, friendly affair. She'll either think you're friend-zoning her or she'll just think you lack the courage to make moves and she'll be turned off.

Jeremiahtheebullfrog · 2017-05-27T04:09:50+00:00

Watch for physical cues. Like the come get me eyes, light body touches like a tug on the arm or tap of the hand. Also use them to test the waters, her reactions will let you know if she into you. If she doesn't react negatively be more aggressive with her physically, in the right time an location of course. Don't focus on the "asking out" just ask if they want to hang out or do something interesting, walk in the park, go people watching, be creative, but be cool, don't be too needy. No risk no reward. Grab your nuts and make a move. Time waits for no man. If she's not into you better to figure out sooner than later and move on to the next jaunt.

ThrowawayPUA · 2017-05-27T17:25:57+00:00

It is damned if you do, damned if you don't.

There is an old saying, "better to be killed as a ram than a sheep."

Most women are well experienced at fending off advances by guys, it's no big thing to them unless you are unusually aggressive. Most women will forgive you for being too aggressive, but if she likes you, she will not forgive you for failing to be aggressive enough.

2017-05-27T19:02:36+00:00

You must establish a communication first. I say this over and over because so many here don't do that. They're looking for the "kiss close" or being a creepy KINO guy, touching her all over hoping for some sort of IOI. Asking a girl out should come naturally, there will be a point (if you have done things right) where its right and proper to ask her out. If you blurt it out after talking to her for 2 minutes she will wonder what the fuck is wrong with you. Don't be aspie.

Title	At which point do you ask her out?
Author	whatwasthatcat
Upvotes	10
Comments	26
Date	May 27, 2017 1:41 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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