Beyond seduction - forming deep relationships with people you want

hunterpua · 2018-09-01T20:37:07+00:00

Thought:

Its because the majority of this subreddit are beginners so of course the majority of the advice that is sought after and given is of the initial stages.

Advice:

If you want to form deep connections understand that at our cores, we're all the same. We all feel happiness, we all feel sadness, we all get horny, we all get afraid, we all want freedom and to live according to our own will, etc. So if you want to connect deeper with a woman then instead of focusing on small talk, teasing, or qualifying her focus on emotions, motivations and character traits.

What that means is that when you listen to a woman talking you need to really pay attention to what she says and process what she says asking yourself "What would someone like this/that does this feel?" (emotions), "What would make someone do/be such a thing?" (motivations), "What kind of person would do this/be this way?" (character traits)

If you try to list out any emotions, motivations, or character traits you will find that you can easily relate to all of it.

If you look at Hermes and the Hermes Birkin bag on the surface, you wouldn't understand why so many women build up credit by purchasing ridiculously expensive items from the Hermes store and building relationships with the staff there in hopes that one day they will be allowed to purchase the ridiculously expensive Hermes Birkin.

But if you try to relate it to the emotions you might get, the motivations, and the character traits you might exhibit when trying to purchase a Ferrari then you will understand exactly where a woman is coming from with her desire for the Hermes Birkin.

Relationship Management is all about growth. Specifically growing together. All the techniques designed to "keep the fire burning" are just band aids and compensation for something lacking in the relationship, the only techniques that have merit are sound proofing techniques or ways to have a lot of sex when you have kids.

Growth is what you really need. You need to constantly push yourself to evolve, to become better, to learn new things, you need to push your partner to do the same thing and you need to help each other achieve what you're trying to achieve.

My ex girlfriend was an honor student and a leader. I am well versed in cognitive enhancement via, diet, lifestyle and nootropics, I'm also pretty darn good at game so I taught her a bunch of things to make sure she keeps her energy levels up and her mind working as a well oiled machine and I taught her a bunch of game so she can be more influential and effective as a leader.

I am a dating coach so she would tell me about what its like to be a woman to try and deconstruct female psychology, she would give me business advice, she would be there when I did live training, she would talk to students suffering from approach anxiety and make them feel better so they can approach, she would let me demonstrate techniques on her, she would give my students serious talks to motivate them and make sure they don't drop out from training with me.

She graduated cum laude and I get to charge a shit ton more than I used to.

That's what growing together looks like.

Idea:

You're on the right track. To get more discussions and advice on deep connections and relationship management you need to create more of a demand for it. By posting this and calling it out you will get other guys who think the same way you do asking for more on deep connections and relationship management putting out more questions about these later stages, which creates more demand for people who are knowledgeable in these areas which will lead to more posts giving advice on them.

slushie_curb_date · 2018-09-02T02:20:20+00:00

bless this post for real

Alex_O7 · 2018-09-01T20:34:26+00:00

I think for this the sub /r/relationships should be better ;)

Anyway there isn't a unique answer to your question, amd actually it is not really matter of seduction.

leothelion092 · 2018-09-02T01:17:45+00:00

Read Models by Mark Manson, seduction isn’t about getting girls or your body count, it’s about finding valuable women. The ones that you want to form deep relations with. Give it a go! It’ll improve you, and also help you learn what true seduction is.

sfoonit · 2018-09-02T10:19:06+00:00

Be curious about things. I'm a curious person so this comes naturally to me. Ask them interesting follow up questions about the things they're talking about -- it shows you're listening and are not actually an idiot. This works great with potential new friends and family as well.

One question I often like to ask early on (i.e. on a second date, when you're alone or walking around somewhere) is "tell me something (almost) no one else knows about you". My experience has been that if you're building a connection then she'll generally tell you something huge about herself.

TTV-DontEvnTrip · 2018-09-02T05:14:05+00:00

You can make 100 friends being interested in them before you find 1 person interested in you. Be excited for other people’s stories to hear them and listen to what they have to say , care about others deeply and when that is noticed they will feel the need to care back . It’s natural . Good luck

Title	Beyond seduction - forming deep relationships with people you want
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Date	September 1, 2018 7:26 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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