Conquer Your Campus: thoughts?

throwaway_cyc · 2010-12-15T00:18:15+00:00

Brief summary of his main ideas:

There are WAY MORE people in the real world, so you have to get used to cold approaches - chances are you will not run into the same people again. This also means that there's no pre-existing social hierarchy at a "real world" bar or club.

College, on the other hand, is "a cohesive social scene in and of itself, and guys who have the most success with women understand this scene and rise to the top of it." Or, as he rephrases it later, college is tribe, and this has serious consequences for how the game is played on campus.

"College girls assume that they will meet guys day in, day out, through their daily activities. And they do not assume they're going to meet a guy by being "picked up." Instead, they're thinking about:

-the guys they know who they might hook up with

-the guys they know who can introduce them to guys they might hook up with

-the girls they know who can introduce them to guys they might hook up with

getting drunk"

He compares two options that a girl might have: one is "a good guy, not the most popular, best dressed, or best looking, but everyone knows him and really likes him. He's fun and has some cool guy friends, and he's solid. Has fun when he goes out, makes people smile, and occasionally drinks too much." The other "works in town, is pretty handsome, drives a 3-series, and is financially independent. He works out and is in great shape. He has a few guy friends and a few female friends, and he's got pretty good game." Since college girls care a great deal about social status, they will pick the first option. He provides an anecdote:

"I was at a bar with a few female friends of mine, and one of them drunkenly made out with a young, attractive, and socially-adept banker. He had good game and I was amused to watch him isolate her in the bar. But it wasn't ten minutes before she came running back to us "Ahhhhh! Oh my God Oh My God Oh My FUCKING God! I just made out with a random!" she said.

He proposes the concept of the "20% Man", one of the 20% of guys at college who get 80% of the action. He says that a 20% man should "Give Love" to everyone around him (in particular, he should actually love women as people and be friends with tons of them, not just ones he's targeting), and should be 'alpha' in his social group and serve as a bridge between other social groups. He also describes Four Traits that typify 20% Men: Fun, Dominant, Leaders, and Easygoing.

Fred_Flintstone · 2010-12-15T00:03:34+00:00

I found the guide from the same post as you. It is a very good guide, although it might go into too much depth just to fill up a book. It just reinforces what I already knew, although it would have been good information to have acquired before arriving here.

Social hierarchy is not everything where I am. We don't have frats. I am at Oxbridge and we do have "drinking societies" which are clubs where fun people meet other clubs of fun people and everyone tries to get laid. Because of how our college system works (In the UK we call college "University". My university confusing is split up into things call "colleges". there are ~30 "colleges" in the university and you live in one. Your department where you work at, e.g. Maths, is independent of the "college") everyone in the same "college" as you will know you and you have a reputation amongst ~300 people. 300 isn't that many.

This has worked in my favour, in that I have slept with nice girls (with no slutty reputation) who I hardly know without putting any effort in trying to seduce them, just because college gossip or people talking or whatever has fortunately given me high value.

The great thing about college for me is that you can DHV to vast groups of people simultaneously, with low effort, if you just be your own PR agent. I have done stand up comedy and presentations and things to the whole college, partly for practice, partly for a "value boost". We have a big disco every 2 weeks where I chat to everyone I can, dance in maximum visibility areas and make sure I'm always looking like I am having the time of my life. I feel that alone is usually enough to let me coast for another 2 weeks. I can also very very lightly flirt with girls without worrying about pace as I know I will see them in the next day or two.

Saying this, I generally avoid relationships with people in the same "college" (not university) as the breakups are horrible; but I have friends with benefits arrangements that work out pretty well. I never even considered FWB until finding seddit, and now it seems so natural - everybody is happy, you get many intimate friendships (never felt closer to a friend until you've orgasmed together and are dripping in sweat and chat completely openly), and it makes you feel like a god. I am an open person, but keep problems to myself. Girls often want to know what problems a guy has, so I reward them after sex by telling them (in conjunction to telling them what I'm doing to fix the problem. I am a man after all!) I am permanently happy and fulfilled since (a) dropping a lot of extra curricular stuff and focusing on my studies and (b) trying FWB. Cant imagine stopping for anything than a relationship with a dream girl.

The BAD thing about my college structure/reputation scenario is that gossip spreads, so it can be hard to keep some things secret. There are girls who I could and would get together with if they were in another college and nobody knew them/me. The reason I wouldn't in an environment where everybody knows me is that they might be annoying or hated by many for whatever reason; so it would damage my reputation or lower my value or people would mock me for getting with them. Also some of the FWB arrangements would be compromised if people caught us, just as girls often don't like other people knowing that they would do that sort of thing because of slutty connotations.

When it comes to girls outside my college where I have no reputation, I am back at square one almost (although thanks to seddit I am improving this. Hopefully I will be ready for the real world when I graduate and not too depressed when I leave this place)

So there is the good and the bad. Sorry this post became long, its still vaguely concise I hope. Ask me anything I guess, if you care.

Lojak · 2010-12-15T07:32:40+00:00

Ha! I just started reading this last night and I think it's pretty accurate and a necessarily distinguished subset of game. I'm a returning student myself and I kind of see this social dynamic from the outside now. The problem is, it's from the outside. You can't play it exactly to the script as an adult student, but you can still have fun. With most of the friends I've made there, I forget that there is even an age difference.

Most of what I've taken from it is still espousing the importance of natural game and inner game. So Mystery.. no. Wygant, yes. I think his theory applies here. (I believe Wygant even does college campus co-ed engagements.)

As for my own application, I can already see I'm definitely going to be more outgoing.

The specifics about the college social scene dynamics is helpful and I haven't seen it anywhere else. I'll do a full review when I'm done and post notes. So far it's a good ebook that stands on its own.

cheddarchexmix · 2010-12-15T22:02:31+00:00

I agree that college game is different from "real-life" game. It's way easier to hook up in college. I was a complete unattractive AFC in college and still managed to hook up with more chicks in those four years than I did in the next 8.

In college, you don't need to do cold approaches, since you meet so many people in different settings. If you're interesting, have cool friends, can tell funny stories, understand kino, decent looking, and are aggressively pursuing women you're after, you're going to be miles ahead of your peers.

Title	Conquer Your Campus: thoughts?
Author	throwaway_cyc
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Date	December 14, 2010 10:49 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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