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[–]JacobMoogberg69 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you feel the urge to impress someone it means that you value their opinion of yourself more than you cake your own opinion of yourself. No woman will consider such a man worthy of her, even the fattest slob. It's just how women are wired.
The only way to solve this is to find a way to start liking and respecting yourself more. Then the opinion of others will be irrelevant, especially if those others are total strangers and know nothing about you.
As for insecurities, remember that insecurity is just a feeling. It's a negative feeling that something about you is embarrassing, inadequate or unworthy and that if you show it to the world you are sure to be rejected and ridiculed.
By hiding your insecurities and mistakes, you give them power over you and they control you. The only way to solve this problem is to stop hiding your past mistakes and transgressions. Whatever you have done wrong, whether to other people or by allowing other people to mistreat you, you need to make peace with. Bring it forward. Stop hiding it. As you do this more and more, the feelings of insecurity will subside because they no longer have power over you. Remember, those feelings thrive in secrecy and shame.
As you keep becoming at peace with your insecurities, you will realize that all you ever needed was to be yourself. There is no need to impress others or to put on performances or masks. Just be unapologetically yourself, because without your neurosis you can actually start liking yourself. When you get to this point, women will come easily to you because they are immediately impressed by a guy who doesn't need the approval of others to feel good about himself.
[–]kmikk22 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea that sounds the cake I am having at the moment, unfortunately.
I know I shouldn't be thinking about other peoples opininons on me, but for some reason I have an issue with that. I want to impress everyone and if I fail in impressing someone it really makes me anxious. I fucking hate it but you just cannot erase thing like that from your mind.
You've got some wise words there. It is easier to say than do, and usually things like that are difficult to pursuit and for a good damn reason. If someone can pursuit that kind of state of mind means he/she is in super state of mind. I fucking wish I could achieve that some day.
Thanks for the advice man, wise words there.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are going about it the wrong way. It's like telling an alcoholic or drug addict - hey just stop drinking and doing drugs. It's not that easy. They are addicted and there are many factors that drive this impulsive behavior.
Trying to impress others and get their validation is an impulsive behavior but it is not the core of the issue itself. The core of the issue is a belief that you are inadequate, worthless, less than. Again, start bringing these feelings forward. Start talking about what you believe makes you worthless. Be honest about it instead of hiding it deep inside. As you bring these feelings forward, you wjll actually lose the fear of doing so and they will no longer get control you.
[–]LoveMyChoppa 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Maybe don’t think about trying to “impress” her. They’re a person & their shit stinks just as much as yours. Talk to her like a regular human being. Ask her actual questions that you want to know about. Don’t worry about getting her number right away, if the conversation flows organically & you think she’s a decent fit, throw out that you’d like to get to know her & give her your number. If she calls/texts, cool. If she doesn’t, charge it to the game and move on. Don’t take it personally. Your confidence will grow the more you simply talk to them. Hope this helps.
[–]Perfect-Resist5478 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
This all day! Women are just people. Just talk to them like people. If you’re trying to find places to do this talking thing with the hopes that it would blossom into something more, definitely stay away from the women at your job. That’s a sure fire way to make things awkward at best and become an HR nightmare at worst. Join meetups and clubs for hobbies that you have. If you’re in a major city there may be “adventure clubs” that tailor to singles looking to do fun stuff. Adult social sports leagues are also a great way of getting out there. Go out like you’re trying to make friends and see if you connect with anyone
[–]kmikk22 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see, that is exactly what I waa thinking about if I start hitting on the women on my work.
Well in the city I live in, there are no adventure clubs or anything like that, and if there was I would bet them to be massive sausage parties(as tinder and other for singles apps are). Those might work in bigger cities and countries but not here in Finland.
I've been trying to find adult social sports here but it seems rather difficult for a guy like me who doesn't know local people much. Stuff like that needs someone to be known from the sport teams/groups.
Thank you for the advice anyway! I am glad that post like this gets tips and answers.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Join meetups and clubs for hobbies that you have. If you’re in a major city there may be “adventure clubs” that tailor to singles looking to do fun stuff. Adult social sports leagues are also a great way of getting out there. Go out like you’re trying to make friends and see if you connect with anyone
Do people even really do this? Rather do women? You always hear about stuff like this being sausage fests and having either very little women, or there's contingencies set in place to prevent single guys from trying anything....
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[–]Perfect-Resist5478 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yes women do this (I’m a woman, this is how I met my boyfriend). But you don’t go and treat it like your personal dating pool. You go to make friends and do something fun with people. It puts you out there in a way that elevates your life regardless of the outcome, and you let things develop naturally.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Right, then you go and it's full of nothing but dudes and like two women. Somehow you're supposed to go any not look to meet women...but somehow it just happens....
[–]Perfect-Resist5478 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes, that’s how life works. You make opportunities by putting yourself out there and let things develop. You can LOOK to meet women, I’m just saying don’t act like a shark circling prey. If you come across as aggressive and predatory, people aren’t going to want to interact. If you instead act like a good teammate and fun person to be around, people will gravitate toward you.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So much easier said than done. Too much of how you're perceived is based on how you look. You're reserved and you're deemed and "anti-social and difficult" you're trying to be included and you're too "aggressive. Smh.
[–]Perfect-Resist5478 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But that’s why practice is so important. If you’re shy and reserved, putting yourself out there can help build the gregarious muscle to make interacting with people easier. If you’re felt to be too aggressive, you can practice listening more and being less domineering. Obviously if any of this were easy there wouldn’t be a whole subreddits (not to mention countless websites, YouTube channels, and books) devoted to the subject. And the good thing about a social club or sports league is that your participation isn’t contingent on how you look. If you’re just there to play soccer and meet people (or D&D, or cornhole, or whatever the activity is) you can let your skill or your wit or your knowledge take the lead. Then you have a shared interest from which you can build into further conversations, thereby fostering a deeper connection
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The issue is if you're an introvert or have anxiety...the dynamic of going to meet a group of people who already know each other while you're a stranger is pretty...daunting. It would be so easy to get lost in everything and shutdown and that would be perceived as you just being distant or disinterested. It seems like those are just for people who are social and extroverted and just want to meet new people, not introverts.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Gyms are fine. I wouldn't do it in the workplace though, because that would be entangling your professional and personal lives.
The gyms would be fine if I lived in a bigger city. The gym I go in has not enough difference in customers, which means that if I started hitting women there it would be noticed and very quickly I would become the pervert of the gym.
To be honest it would be fucking awesome to seduce a woman from the gym some day, but it needs some training before it happends.
Thans for the advice!
[–]WarmAdministration76 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do it from the bottom, Just go from store to store asking for prices and product's opinions. Make regular conversations as 2 usual individuals, and then move out saying that she made a great point and you'll take a look about her ideas. If you have anxiety with everyone, go talk to guys if girls make you more uncomfortable, this is just a way for you to improve your health. But make sure you won't be doing this for life, just do it gradually until you can approach girls in a safe way for yourself. Best of luck mate
I know I should start from the bottom, but the store might not be the best place for that. Small city and small amount of peple, so as I answered to the gym advice also, not enough difference on the customers.
What comes to the sex is that I have the same anxiety on both sexes when I am trying to impress someone. To be honest, it is easier for me chat with ladies more than men. Usually I want to impress everyone I talk to, the only time I don't get anxious is when I don't want to/need to impress someone. I have no idea what is the root cause for this "impress everyone" thing, but I know that at the moment it is an major problem for me.
It seems the only way here is to start approaching and trying to open both sexes more and do some small talking. Just gotta try to stop impressing everyone.
Thanks for the advices mate!
[–]WarmAdministration76 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have no idea what is the root cause for this "impress everyone
There is no need to impress anyone, you just need to lead the conversation. There are a lot of topics on how to pickup girls, search for PUA or PICKUP. Improve yourself :)
[–]5_7pickup -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Refer to my field reports
I can see you are a real player currently, they made me quite jealious 😄 I wish I had the same possibilities. That shit would motivate the shit out of me to do pick up if I had a friend or two to go out with. A solo pick up would not work at my current inner game state.
[–]5_7pickup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go out solo and then have someone hold you accountable. I just started providing coaching services. DM if interested.
[–]gyrocosec -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Online dating - is only for men in the top 20% of looks... ie none of us... (most likely) - you also just dont build proper skills to fully attract women, be intimate, physical escalation, all these things that are required to find love and intimacy, which is ultimately the goal...
if you consider yourself social but a self-proclaimed lone wolf, then you are not that social... social skills is actually kinda hard, i like RSDtyler and Julien Blanc's content on social skills, they are very insightful...
But yea, the biggest help I had actually taking action, was simply having a wing, AND all you need is one guy friend that is on the same page... you two go out and you have someone to fall back upon...
be more social... talk to more people... like alot more... atend more social events... and get good at meeting people... forget about sex and women, the foundational skill is simply socialisation...
but yea insecurity is the biggest pussy repellent that exists... fix your insecurities? how? idk, therapy, questioning beliefs, trauma release, working on yourself, actually building real value... ie work, success etc... and the best of all, BRUTE ACTION... you have to go out and meet girls... and enjoy rejection, i actually set the goal, i want to get 10 rejections... cause rejections is a good thing lol...
take so much action, that you start seeing results and realise you CAN do this...
but yea also dont call the dating apps shallow, your blaming other people for being shallow, but its not, dont be a victim. I used to follow alot of incel ideology, and make myself the victim, but that is the easy way out because it stops you from introspecting youself...
This is the reason why I'd like to build myself for better success in real life game, not a damn app game.
I am an social introvert. I like being in social situations and I like attention in social situations, but I also need some lone time often. What usually makes me want to do either of those is my current state if inner game. If I am having good time and I am enjoying I like being in social situations, but when I happen to be, for some reason, on a bad mood I like being alone. To be honest I believe I have unstable personality disorder of minor sort.
God I would fucking love a wingman or two to go out, hang and try to get better with women. I just don't have anything like that at the moment. Currently I am trying to get social, know people and find mates but so far it has not succeeded and I am working on it.
Currently I am trying to raise my value by going to gym and trying to socialise, but for some reason it has turned to be a slow process.
Thanks for the advices man, really appreciate the straightforward and honest advice. Nowadays people tend to be too cautious when it comes to giving feedback.
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