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[–]no_not_this 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You need to develop social skills. This can be done by talking with anyone. The bartender, person at the auto parts stores. Talk to men and women. Work on keeping a conversation flowing. It gets easier and easier with time. You will fail. That’s the point. The question is can you keep it going after failure or will you give up?
Start with a lower goal. Say to kiss someone. Don’t think you need to make up for lost time by having sex with them. It will put way too much pressure on yourself. Talk to people, get some dating apps and set up dates. This is where you practice. You will see what works and what doesn’t. Look and smell good. Be funny and try to relax. You’ll be ok.
[–]ThePherdBeve 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, "it gets easier and easier with time." Lol. I've been improving for years and I still suck at it.
[–]itzReborn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What kind of dates should a guy with no experience consider doing?
[–]no_not_this 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I highly recommend not doing dinners. Especially on a first date. You will end up paying for 2 meals and most likely nothing will happen. I like to meet for coffee and a walk and just talk to see if we vibe. A drink at a bar or patio is always good. If you guys get along you can plan something but the key is for it to be fun where you can initiate contact and conversation. Don’t go to a movie. I’ve done everything from axe throwing to mini putt. Some girls will just go for a drive if you have a nice car. Bring a lunch and a blanket. Tons of ideas but every girl is different right. Some might hate mini putt for example.
[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you and one more question if you don’t mind
Similar to OP I have no experience at 22 because I legit just never put myself out there. How do I even start when I’m not even around people(classes online) should I get on apps and learn to talk to girls before asking them out?
[–]no_not_this 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So I’m assuming your in university or college? This is peak time of your life right now to meet girls. It doesn’t get better than this. More then likely not married, no kids, no career.
So basically it’s a numbers game. Would you rather buy one lottery ticket or have hundreds? The odds of being successful are in your hands. Are you in a dorm? Or at home ? Get on campus if it’s open. Join the gym there. Join clubs. You need to talk to as many women as you can. All the time. At the bookstore? Ask her about the book and her major. Super easy to break the ice on campus. In the cafeteria? Make a joke about the food being terrible. Or whatever. Just break the ice and go from there. The goal is to get numbers or insta. I usually don’t ask the girl out on the spot right away unless it’s for right now. It puts them on the spot and I’ve had girls just say no out of nerves / habit when I’ve talked to them after. The goal is abundance. You want as many contacts as possible because the fact is most of them won’t work out. The more you have the better your chances. Also you need to be talking and trying to make plans with multiple girls at the same time because they flake and you don’t want to have days or weeks wasted because a girl ghosts you. You can also forget about them and move on because you have abundance. Good luck my friend. You have to get out there and put in the work.
[–]One-Bedroom9329 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Keep it simple. Grab a cup of coffee with them for the first date.
[–]Vecttivus 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't have a lot of experience, but there are all sorts of women out there. There are women who didn't give two shits about me and what I do because I seemed boring, then there are other women who have absolutely adored my interests, personality and quirks.
For you the best prescription would be - get out there and be prepared to fail, if you look for gold you will dig through a lot of dirt, but once you find that nugget, you'll love it, literally.
Of course add all the other things this subreddit is about (self improvement etc.)
Good luck ;)
[–]treeee3333 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't particularly have any advice. But I want you to know, this isn't as abnormal as you think. I am a university student and know plenty of guys (and girls) in my class who have never had a relationship, or the like. Some of these folks are 24.
It might depend on which country you're from though. But you are not alone dude. My only advice, and it works for me, is to just talk to people. Try to push the anxiety away like it's some asshole yelling at you. Don't take that assholes abuse. And if you get rejected, use it as a learning experience. But you are old enough for bars, go there on date themed nights and just talk to girls you like.
[–]kawasakizx7rMonster 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Learn to have bit more self awareness of the language you use. For example : extremely shy nature, extreme shyness. How about re-framing it, ''up until now tend to feel uncomfortable around some women''. See the difference. I mean well. Know it sounds bit catch22, try be careful, using extreme words tends to make things up until now, worse than they really are.
Improve socials skills more, chat to everyone you meet. you'll get better. Maybe join group ,club, activity were you will get used to being more comfortable around others which will help you relax ,gain confidence talking to people. Sent you sources may help connecting with people, don't mind. Good luck
Lots of people are shy. You are not alone.
That being said...
Practice. Talk to as many people as you can. Flirt with as many women as you can... you don't need to be attracted to her to be flirty, hell you can flirt with the 60 year old cashier, it's all great practice. It may be awkward at the beginning, but eventually it'll feel more natural, just be patient and celebrate every attempt, regardless of outcome, as a small win.
Go to a bar and see how other men approach women and what works. Body language is more important than words... eye contact, slow and small smiles over smiling like a horse.
Don't ask questions. Make observations. Can I have your number is weak. Pulling out ur phone and saying put your number here, I'll text you so we can go grab a cup of coffee is confident. Just an example.
Look up the natural lifestyles and how to beast on youtube. Don't worry so much about what these guys "say" to women but "how" they say it and most importantly... their mindset... they both believe social freedom is their right and have been working at earning it for years.
So have I ... I went from being friend zoned by every woman I ever interacted with to seducing seven women in 3 months at my job. And it feels pretty damn good.
DM me if you want more of my perspective ... always happy to help.
[–]EU-Howdie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Me, male, was a virgin untill 23. Shy !! Realise, when you are not really handsome, famous or rich, dating life is low, bad for man UNTILL he grows older. Slowly his social skills grow AND too women start looking for a partner, to built a family, or at least a LTR.
It is pretty normal when there is an age gap in a couple, between man and woman, of 4 years. Our BEST dating possibilties / time start at 27 and from there getting better and better. So do your best, practice, approach and talk to everybody, men, women, old, young and even too to your pet at home. Was 22, male, virgin, even never had a kiss, and now my body count almost 50 years later is ... about 4 a year. Can you count ... Just go on with your life, been there, see it a lot from my friends, it comes good. Trust me!
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