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ethical_pa · 2018-01-15T07:47:56+00:00

Let me start by saying that I'm not defending her reaction; I'm just explaining it. It's essentially the result of beta game (ie, most guys). Beta's believe (or have been taught) that seducing a woman involves building rapport and comfort with her. The problem is, they ignore the first and most important step of seduction: building sexual tension. From her point of view, if you are building rapport and comfort without sexual tension, you are being friendly. When you later come out and express sexual interest, it comes off as incongruent on your part. It FEELS to her like your friendliness was not a consequence of your interest in her as a person, but a conditional exchange for sex. And she's not wrong, for the most part... Women find this extremely repulsive, and often react very negatively. Women tend to shame beta's harshly when they perceive them to get "out of line".

This is why a guy needs to make his sexual intent clear (or create sexual tension) from the outset. This way, you are not putting the cart before the horse, and are setting a clear tone for the relationship: a man to woman interaction. This pretty much eliminates the friend zone shit. The interaction has been sexualized enough so that if you get a "let's just be friends" line from her at some point, then you know your seduction has failed and can learn and move on gracefully.

NOTE: I'm using the beta/alpha terminology as an oversimplified generalization.

TL;DR: Would you rather be alpha, and when your seduction fails be nonetheless called confident and respected. Or be beta and when the same happens be called misogynist and creepy?

CrucialAmmunition · 2018-01-15T04:25:57+00:00

She says there’s no such thing as the friend zone, then goes on to say she’s not putting you anywhere where you’re not already, implying the existence of the friend zone, she’s clearly an idiot

opital · 2018-01-15T04:22:24+00:00

I find this contradictory because she says it implies that women aren’t able to set the boundaries of their relationships, but they literally are by performing the action of putting you in the friend zone.

2018-01-15T17:22:24+00:00

I agree to a point that the friendzone doesn't exist for girls trying to pigeonhole guys. It exists for guys who get rejected and don't see that, so they cling on and try to be nice for sex. If you see a girl sexually and she rejects that, just leave. You gain nothing by continuing the relationship.

The misogynist comment, however, is the dumbest shit I've read all day

Conor_Niggregor · 2018-01-15T11:25:33+00:00

misogynists? lol oh what a dumb cunt

Lambdal7 · 2018-01-15T20:44:32+00:00

The friendzone doesn't exist id you know how to tease and create attraction and comfort. No girl will just see you as a non sexual friend, they will see you as an interesting friend who she feels a sexual vibe with and at anytime, you can switch the flip from just being a friend to a lover.

On the other hand, if you are not good at game, it's exceptionally hard to get out of the friendzone, because you don't know how.

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