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[–]TheImpalaTame 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It’s only creepy when she doesn’t find you attractive or is just generally not interested at all I.e happily married women etc
[–]slw9496 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ok, that makes sense. When i was in sales i had a process i used for every potential client. Introduce, qualify, present, negotiate, and close. Maybe i need to create a process like this for women so i can discover in the qualifying step if shes interested then after I’ve determined that move to presentation and negotiation being sexualized.
[–]CollaterLDamage 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
........that is the process. almost down to the T.
you introduce yourself.(direct or indirect)
you qualify her, making sure she satisfys your standards.
you present yourself, making you interesting and satisfying her standards.
you negotiate on whether they want to keep it going (dating, kissing, fucking).
then close out, (kiss her, fuck her, date her)
dating is the equivalency of a follow up, if your pitch was interesting and memorable, they cant wait.
[–]slw9496 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Are you in sales as well?
[–]CollaterLDamage 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
i did hvac sales, yes. I had it easier since the product usually pushed itself. one issue. dont be the "problem solver" in the conversation. If she talks about her ex, or her bad friend etc. dont try to solve it. my desire to fix problems didnt translate over well.
[–]slw9496 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks thats good advice because I’m naturally inclined to try to help so ill avoid it. Thanks man!!
[–]Mojorisin5150 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea never try to fix a woman’s problem. If they want help they’ll ask. If they don’t ask, just listen.
I always just end up shaking my head and saying “damn, that’s a nightmar.” then I leave it alone.
[–]RProgrammerMan 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it depends on the women, if that is the kind of person you are looking for it is probably a good strategy but if not than it probably isn't a good strategy. If you go around offering that kind of product you will get women that are interested in what you are selling. Most others prefer a more subtle approach I think. I would agree though that ultimately we are all sexual creatures so in reality things are always sexual on some level.
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[–]slw9496 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thats what i was thinking too. I guess this is just like sales. Ill scuff my self up a little bit before i get the swing of it. I just got out of a two year relationship and never had much game before that so its like I’m starting fresh.
So i guess it will just be the ole’ mistakes and bruises path until i find the right way to be graceful with this.
[–]TheThing345 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
pretty much haha
Mark Manson calls this the 'pain period', as 'any change will at first be awkward, unnatural and uncofmortable'
[–]slw9496 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks! I gotta look him up.
[–]CollaterLDamage 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sales and seduction have a lot in common.
No one buys if you dont go out and sell [yourself]
the pushy salesman are the ones everyone talks about. ie the creeps. pushy salesman do get sales but subtlety creates loyalty.
when your good at selling , you wont have to push the product,people will push you to sell it to them. women will get really touchy with you when theyre sold on "your product"
[–]Roly__Poly__ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will probably have some troll find this later and use it against me but:
I met a girlfriend by going in to kiss her neck two minutes after I met her in a dark nightclub. We hadn't said more than basics. I made a comment that had a lot of implied sexuality going and she was receptive so I went in. That kiss ended up being a bite on the ear by the time I was done -- because I felt her move gently. So I'm like, "She's into it, go further."
There were multiple points in that interaction where I could have misread the situation and been rejected harshly. But I was right and we dated for over a year.
She was worth the times I misread things learning to get there. So come get me, trolls!
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