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[–]lesntoomy 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The complement in the video is perfect not too much not too little. You never stop with just the compliment though it will leave them high on the princess pedestal. So go straight into the stack and tease just a little. Tom is one of the best out there.
[–]Alcatraz-12 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
mind explaining the stacking thing a bit more ?
[–]lesntoomy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Stacking is a topic you use or create. A stack MUST NOT be a question. It is a statement. An easy rule to use for a good stack is "say what you see". You look european... You are from Norway aren't you?
A good stack leads to the vibing phase where you tell a flirty little story about the topic. There are four videos you need to go through in this series. Put pen to paper and start making up your own little lines and stories as you go. It will all become clear
[–]Alcatraz-12 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why must it not be a question tho ? And what do you mean by vibing phase ? And can you give me a flirty story that relates to that topic ?
[–]lesntoomy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go watch this seies on his channels... He explains it all better than I can. The series is called daygame dynamo.
[–]Mr-NiceGuys 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get off this reddit page
[–]bournit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I realized that approaching girls on the street might be a pretty good idea.
Yeah, Tom saved also me ;)
Should I give compliments ?
Yes. But in your way. I mean, you can stop her and, with big eyes and huge smile, say "You're sooo beutiful !" Or you can just stop her and say, as Tom, "You look ... really nice".
The problem is not about the compliment (because, if you stop her, she already knows... Unless you ask for directions/time). Is about the stack.
After the compliment one has really soon to take a thing of her and built a conversation about it. As Tom says in this video.
Now I'm trying to have less compliments , like "Ehi I'm sorry, can I just say something random to you ? I've noticed you up there because of your dancing french walk " . It's not really direct, but puts you already into stack, without pedestalization and in a very flirty conversational mood.
Some purists would say this is not really direct. I agree. But I've found doing this I can continue better and more often the convos. Sometimes if you go for a compliment your mind gets empty and you eject as soon as given the compliment.
Remember , goal is not make compliment (at least not once you do it since a while, for first times yes, giving compliment is necessary) but to make convo going in the right flirty mood and to close with a number or a instant date.
Should I make some chit chat before I ask for a date or just give a few lines then ask for it and just go ?
Here is your choice.
Tom is like Paul Janka : the principle for both daygame style is collecting more numbers possible (not necessarily refusing instant dates) just to have "abundance" and to built confidence in your ability. Janka says "Take the number in less than a minute". I've experienced it, and in less than a minute you need toooooooons of numbers to get a date. [He lived in NY , so always know how much big is your city and how many opportunities could go wasted].
Sasha daygame says "Always go for an instant date" or "take the number when you already arranged the date". So spend more on interaction . This daygame mindset is more oriented on becoming the bf of the girl, but has its own pros : the more the girl invests while she meets you for the first time, the more easily she will have a second meet with up. (BTW Never be sure, some instant dates are only instant dates and you never see them again).
Thankfully watching some of ams's videos helps me with building confidence and not thinking that these girls are above me.
Game is all about girls out of your league. If there's any.
[–]Alcatraz-12 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
One thing I don't get is how does a small conversation make a girl get invested ? Is it because you're already ahead most guys, since you're approaching her ?
Also, I still don't get stacking, can you elaborate on that ?
[–]bournit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
how does a small conversation make a girl get invested ? Is it because you're already ahead most guys, since you're approaching her ?
Yes. You jumped all the queue she has behind her ass. On Instagram. In clubs. At uni. At work.
Of course, she can like you or not. Depending of the type you are, how you speak, what you say. The only thing one can do is the best to optimize the ratio of girls can like you.
To get her investing is the most difficult Hong of daygame.
That's about the starting of conversation. Before making her investing she has to talk with you a little bit (would you ever talk about your life/dreams to stranger ? No of course, before you have to know each others). So after the compliment, or in it, you make an assumption , not offensive not peasant, just random and unexpected. And you wait her for reacting . If she doesn't react you ask her "am I right?" Or "what do you think about it?" .
One thing I oftendo is the assumption of the country they're from. Is the easiest , because if they're from else where we're gona talk about her country, or other where I /her have been. If she's from the country I'm in I switch in local language and this makes the conversation fun and playful.
After a while, if she is curious (not all girls are) she will make a question about you . So hook point (look video again and again, the model has to be built in your brain) has arrived. You can relax and just make the convo going as friends, using sometimes some little jokes or spikes that are more sexual.
[–]Alcatraz-12 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Doesn't making friendly small talk lower your chances and the tension that you're trying to build ? On another note, what makes a girl not interested in you, but others interested ? I mean, I'm the same person with both, is it common interests or what ?
[–]bournit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Doesn't making friendly small talk lower your chances and the tension that you're trying to build ?
Yeah, but you're always in street, and you can't be too much sexual because you just met her. Or if you want you can, but let me know when girls will stop running away.
Calibration (finding trade off between social and sexual ) is needed. A lot.
On another note, what makes a girl not interested in you, but others interested ? I mean, I'm the same person with both, is it common interests or what ?
I don't know. I only know you cant get THIS single girl. You can only start investing your time in approaching and hoping this, at least, gives you confidence in yourself.
If you think you can only meet and talk to girls attracted to you or y that you can attract all the girls you talk with, you didn't understand game, and, more sadly, life in general .
Do your best, approach a lot, and success will arrive when you'll be completely outcome indipendent. That's why daygame is difficult. If one wants to get laid without learning, spending time and not being rejected, engeneers (as me, so I know how the category thinks) have created Tinder. Better on short term, but let's see at 35-40 yo who has regrets and who is continuing to bang 20 yo girls.
So don't overthink, go for daygaming. Also just in terms of adrenaline and pressure is a extreme sport. You'll like the feelings it gives you . Enjoy the process, not the outcome.
[–]Alcatraz-12 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
good point lol and it can be really frustrating as I probably can hit it off with a good percentage of the girls that I pick up, but when it comes to girls that study with you or something, you can catch feelings and there's not a lot you can do about it, if she doesn't feel the same.
[–]bournit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
but when it comes to girls that study with you or something, you can catch feelings and there's not a lot you can do about it, if she doesn't feel the same
Yeah, I completely agree . What I noticed starting daygame is that it gives you (despite that can like you or not, and usually doesn't happen) big confidence with girls you study with.
Before daygame for me trying with class mates was hard, now, just because I know the street provides me everyday new opportunities, I give less fucks becoming sexual with girls at uni, and I don't care if they reject me : daygame desensitizes you a lot, rejects become "neutral responses" , and you stop seeing them as "negative responses " .
That why I like daygame, it is free, self-esteem rewarding and liberating. Also I put it in this way : maybe it never lead me to success trought it, but it certainly is the most difficult training one can do (try nightgame after daygaming a while and you'll see the beast you've became ;) ), and makes you enjoying the city instead of staying home looking Netflix or playing games.
[–]Alcatraz-12 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
yeah good point. It may not give great results but it boosts your confidence and gives you an abundant mindset, which is necessary in the dating field. Also do u have any tips on how to control the adrenaline rush when approaching during the day ?
[–]bournit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You can't control, you've to do it repeatedly. Day by day, week by week, month by month.the rush is always there but you'll become less and less sensitive to it.
[–]Alcatraz-12 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
okay ty. Another thing, how to do approaches if you live in a small country and everybody knows everybody ? Just a couple minutes ago I started texting a girl in a flirty way and she just told me that one of my friends is a close friend of hers. Now if she rejects me or anything, that friend will most likely know about it. How to deal with that ?
[–]bournit1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ok. Daygame requires anomicity. Requires numbers. So if your city is less than 500 k don't do it. You'll burn all the city !
(Or do it and to the hell the city, this is an ability you want for life and for your self ;) )
But in general if you are in 1 million or more people city can also happen that the chick you approached knows indirectly you or your friends. (Or you re-meet her, happens to me different times).
So city is "little" depending on different random things. Don't think in NY you can't rejump in front of the same girl. Expecially if you go daygaming in the same places, people are wired into their habits (hot chicks too).
So I face this thing with this mentality : I'm man and I go for what I want, I gave her a possibility , if she wastes why should I feel shame ?? For liking girls and pussy ?
Come on , we're in 2019 and they want sex parity ... Your friends will know, then you'll make them know you like also other 10 hot chicks and you're a player , and they'll shit the fuck up because they are unable to cold approach. That's it.
[–]Alcatraz-121 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
well the whole country is like 11 million people, but most likely every single person you meet, somehow connects to you or your friends, it's really weird.
And sure, I shouldn't feel shaming for wanting to talk to a girl, but it sucks when your friends hear about you getting rejected. But still, most of my friends are unable to approach.
Also, getting a reputation as a player is a good thing ?
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