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I did the group back than, but everybody came up with excuses
/r/seduction28/03/21 06:10 PM
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I think it depends. If it happens in the first 5 minutes of the convo, you did something wrong. If it happens in the numb close, it is a normal and honest thing they do. Don't react, just pass the test keeping the convo going with random shit (the "how" will come just by throwing yourself in the middle of dozens of these cases), if she's still there she likes you. The last approach I made was a case of having bf, but after that she stayed there. I left and I regret of pushing for the number inst…
/r/seduction29/08/20 10:58 AM
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Since you don't want to drink I would suggest to cook something with her, and then put on a Netflix movie.
/r/seduction27/08/20 06:41 PM
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Where you live, is it the time to start going out on dates? Italy here, yes. Where to go? Have a walk, go to some gardens. If it's winter I really don't know, maybe waiting for the sunny day is better than nothing (if cafes are closed). Do I wear masks? Yes. Dont be socially awkward, sometimes pull it off to show your smile. Non verbal is better then verbal. How do I touch the girl? Let her do the work. Despite I would never date a girl that goes "keeps distance" , if you have to, let her come c…
/r/seduction19/05/20 11:12 AM
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Public transportation
/r/seduction28/04/20 09:20 AM
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Don worry , social distancing ends up to your front door ;)
/r/seduction18/04/20 04:58 PM
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Oh god, that's really GREAT advice, not just for seduction, but for life style in general! Thanks bro, that's gold
/r/seduction16/04/20 08:02 PM
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every new post is going on as if everything is normal. Man, ive noticed some posts about guys asking how to change their game because of this, and they got deleted. They f**king got deleted for having the most popular and right concern about this time. It's sad, but if this is the way we want to face the reality... This says a lot about where pickup is going to return. In the darkness. And that's good, less keyboard puas and more females for us, what can one say
/r/seduction11/04/20 11:15 AM
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Don't be scared. If human race wants to keep stay alive, a p will always need to finish in a v.
/r/seduction09/04/20 05:18 PM
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Interesting question. So, I see, you are busy a lot. I speak from a similar position: in the last year I've introduced daygame in my life, while I'm doing 2 unis at the same time, so I know which type of mental crysis you're living. My suggestion is: work is the most important thing. Don't touch it. For studying: find the better and most efficient ways of studying. What I found is that when u are so busy u have to sacrifice a lot the societal conventions, and study when u can, not when u should.…
/r/seduction09/04/20 03:31 PM
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Daygame is cold approaching . Approach girl wherever, not just where you're supposed to (blubs ,bars, social circles). What do you mean “competition between females”? As in you’ll wait for them to reach out? I mean, when u have real abundance you prefer to dedicate time to the ones that are more compliant.
/r/seduction07/04/20 04:35 PM
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I don't know, really. She didn't text me back during this month, also I really want to get back daygaming as before, so I have not an agenda about that specific girl. Also remember that as me and her, there are out there hundreds of girls alone with parents now at home. Then what it will happen is just up on competition between females of our species ahah
/r/seduction07/04/20 03:01 PM
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I agree about the importance of seeming abundant. The point here is that u don't have to seem abundant. Because if you seem but you don't have girls you don't have game. You should be (environment allowing) abundant. And now the environment is not allowing you unless you have thousands of Instagram followers. Tough times gaming at this time, and haven't found much of anyone who has a good answer for it. Yep. This is the first time in history game stops because of laws and not because of lazyness…
/r/seduction07/04/20 02:58 PM
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I really like this comment . It is good to have somebody that keeps it rational, specially when this one is a girl. Thank you
/r/seduction07/04/20 02:53 PM
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Bro, I kinda agree with not writing her. All this thing is changing (badly) the way we perceive game. We, as man, have the duty to always remember what game is for: it is for having her in your bed. And she wants that ! So, doing virtual dates or calls or whatever is just not your plan. And that's ok, were men. Why not write any her you picked up before quarantine : logistics work completely against you, societal pressure is massively against you ("social distancing", "find the infected people" …
/r/seduction07/04/20 09:26 AM
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It depends on how you met her
/r/seduction06/04/20 06:34 PM
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Like this post. The point for me is quite simple: if you already have birds try to bang them now, if u haven't don't go crazy and find yourself a lot of different things to do. Just be in peace with having no girls. Also I think (general advice for all guys) that keeping texting with a girl that doesn't want to meet because of this thing is quite pointless: let's be man and face the soften rejection. The real problem is now about opportunities. When everything shuts down , and online dating beco…
/r/seduction04/04/20 08:25 PM
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Never approach at your/her work Never give your number (instead, take hers) Approach a lot 3 fundamentals of game. Save them for after the pandemic, because if you're not gonna respect them there will be no difference pandemic situation and not pandemic situation
/r/seduction02/04/20 08:58 AM
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Thanks for your answer, quite helpful! Duty bro ! Go out there and game for me also, now maybe the struggle of game feels bad, but then you'll miss it if quarantine will hit you're country too. Hoping not, best regards
/r/seduction01/04/20 09:31 PM
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I agree a lot, but I think some things are quite wrong. I think nightgame is easier than daygame because some girls are not sober and so if you are good-looking and how to escalate you can do kiss close most of the time Nightgame is not easier. If you do it technically (not drinking - do it only if you like some drinks - and not hitting super drunk girls - because in that case they're choosing you by being disposable), it is difficult as daygame. In daygame pulling from the set is quite more adv…
/r/seduction01/04/20 07:58 PM
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I think future will be not different from what were used to. Reasons are quite simple: the more guys go into "Social Circle Game" (that, quoting Todd, is "the most played game on earth", "of course" I would add, because this kind of game protects you from rejections) the more a one night stand from the club or a lay with an unknown guy from the street will be an attractive, rare and prohibited but exciting thing for girls. The same could happen in the reverse: the more cold approachers there are…
/r/seduction01/04/20 06:44 PM
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Are dating apps a good idea for someone who just sarted getting into the dating game? No. Because it softens rejections. So you'll keep having your judgement about girls, you'll keep thinking there are w***es and there angels. And that's not true. Get out there and do the job, because this is the only thing that can make you an attractive guy.
/r/seduction10/03/20 09:02 AM
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No, I think that there are tons of videos or courses on how to change your voice to make it more masculine. It's a problem of respiration, work for it because it's really important !
/r/seduction09/03/20 01:09 PM
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Dude, most of them don't even listen to my opener, Is your eye contact strong ? Do you smile before getting there and actually approaching her ? How much time ago you started daygaming ? I ask it because # of apps is not really the metric. I had the first date after 5 months, and I was going out and doing 1 or 2 apps per day. But if you did all of those apps in too little times, it's not a matter of numbers, it's a matter of learning slowly. Seems silly, but as everything it requires time. I've …
/r/seduction09/03/20 01:08 PM
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Hey man, I agree with the moderator. Try to record your voice, maybe is not slow and deep. Also, who's your coach ? "Excuse me, I saw you pass by and I thought you looked kinda cute, so I wanted to say hi". Sometimes I mix in something specific to the girl, like if she has a funny hat, a huge bag or something else to pick up on. I'm doing daygame since 1 and half year, I'm not so experienced, but here I don't see the assumption. I think it is FUNDAMENTAL to talk about the girl just after the com…
/r/seduction08/03/20 08:24 PM
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Man, I've been reflecting on this virus thing for a while. I stay in the most hit-by-virus place in Italy, and I think all this thing is a brainwashing: surely the virus is dangerous, but almost only for old people, and surely is not the only and the most possible way to die. Think about it when you cross the road (how danger is it ? How many people die in a day because of car accidents in your country Vs how many because of this virus ? Have people stopped using cars ? ) or when you eat your ne…
/r/seduction06/03/20 04:46 PM
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We can make a girl attracted to us. And the only way is : speaking (more broadly : "game"). Supposing "we can't make a girl attracted to us" you're sneakily saying that she is or she is not attracted. But this applies only if she already has evaluated you. So, game is required pretty everytime you know every each new girl. Also, if she is already attracted game is always required: a girl can be attracted but for long relationship when you want sex, or only for sex when you want more. Using game …
/r/seduction06/03/20 03:42 PM
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Is it normal to be this selective during the cold approach process? I think yes. I'm peaky too... And I know it's bad for several reasons. The main one is that I found that I don't know what I really like, so approaching a "9" or "10" is the same of approaching a "7". Also I found that the more you are not peaky the more success you have. And the more you feel good around all women. 9s and 10s included.
/r/seduction05/03/20 01:07 PM
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I can easily get a date every week and only need to do a hand full of approaches So why stick on uni daygame ? I think this sub has this bias about uni daygame, and the real point is another: daygame can be everywhere.
/r/seduction04/03/20 11:32 AM
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The bests options I always use : "I have to go now, how we can continue this conversation ?" [Neil Strauss], and then you said it, stay there and look her into her eyes firmly. Pro: you don't ask directly for the number. Cons: she can go for Instagram. (Advice: don't give socials, if she keep insisting for Instagram or FB or whatever know that is because she wants likes or story views, not to really stay in contact with you). "Let's exchange numbers" [Tom Torero] and then you gave her your phone…
/r/seduction28/02/20 05:48 PM
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Interesting post. I think I've reflected on the same question 1000 times, and never had the courage to ask someone about it. My answer: collect statistical data on Excel, and then plot them. Because it can heavily depend on your city, on the culture of the place, on luck, on your mood. What I found at the end? That you can't control anything and that anyway daygame is not something you can "optimize" really: we'll lose a lot of opportunities, and that's the rule of the game. At 12 or at 7 pm, no…
/r/seduction25/02/20 09:42 PM
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only when they don't know what they're talking about and need to sell consultancy I agree with this
/r/seduction25/02/20 11:56 AM
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The whole reason approaching is even hard isn't the approach itself (put one foot in front of the other until you are near...), it's the anticipation of having to make conversation. This sentence is huge. When I will write a book about daygame I'll quote you sir. Thank you.
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:17 PM
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Really interesting tip. I am doing daygame since 1 year, and I'm taking stats about approaches per session. After how much time did you become consistent ? Like going out and doing not less (no matter what conditions) than 5 apps. I'm struggling with this. Also , did you noticed some "patterns" in performance ? I mean, it happens to me to get out , in some weeks, almost everyday, but I end up doing few apps (like 10 in a week). But then, when I get out only 3 times a week (to do more apps concen…
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:05 PM
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It is a huge project , but it could change your life : design a different lifestyle. I think your problem is only about the fact you can't approach in public , and what I found in 1 year of daygame is that working at home is one of the worst things to do to then be able to walk out in the afternoon and approach cute girls (expecially if you live alone) . So I would suggest: leave online dating and whatever salsa course that has only the purpose to make you meeting women with dancing (if you want…
/r/seduction27/01/20 08:45 AM
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Actually I did not understand your point : Persist after being ghosted? Fuck no lol, I have standards. I never got laid by a 10 but she's never ever getting me to ask her out twice, what a thot. Send engaging messages? Fuck no, why does she deserve me to show personality and lead the convo when she just answers my questions. Approach girls at a club? Fuck no, Im not like the other chodes who try to get laid by grinding on random girls I didn't understand if you agree on persisting after being gh…
/r/seduction20/01/20 09:20 AM
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I'm a fan of direct, when it comes to daygame. Not in nightgame (because in nightgame the context already says "here, at this party/club dudes approach girls to bang them" pretty clear). After hundreds of direct approaches I can say : It's really difficult to get laid, but at least your not waisting your time around chicks because you went indirect (not showing you liked her in a very physical sexual way) 2. around 5-6 girls. Too little sample for evaluating the method: in statistical analysis t…
/r/seduction18/01/20 01:35 AM
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Come on man, let everybody live their life and that's ok. If you like doing a bunch of stuff (as I do), like having multiple things going on, having hobbies and passions, it is ok, but don't try to "educate" others. Especially here, where we have guys that have a lot of problems with meeting women. I think everybody should set his own priorities in life, and nobody can judge: do you want to prioritize women ? Do it. Do you want to prioritize career ? Do it. Do you want to prioritize family ? Do …
/r/seduction13/01/20 08:15 PM
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Oh, great then. Opening directly and having 1 number on 3 girls stopped is a great ratio. Keep doing this
/r/seduction13/01/20 04:16 PM
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Daygamer here, I think : great stats ! If I could give u some advice (I really don't know, maybe you're more advanced than me ;) ) I would say : focus more on escalation, and on the right frame about taking the number. I'm saying this because I see you got a lot of numbs, but (no matter how many dates, girls will always flake at text) only kiss closes on dates: put on yourself some pressure about having the lay. And also ask yourself if when you take the numb you're taking it in the "lover" mode…
/r/seduction12/01/20 11:41 AM
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Yeah, and that's not "reframing" AA. It's actually the real reason for that body sensations.
/r/seduction11/01/20 08:46 PM
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Great post, as usually ;) A lot of great stuff inside , but also a lot of "humanity", that sometimes lacks to all the "coaches" we refer to. The beautiful thing, that I think is REALLY the great value of the post, is that we can see how game is, only for people that actually do it in a consistent way, difficult. And no bullshits, there are no tricks, only great work. And bro, by sharing this, you gave to people more motivation than whichever theoretical video on YouTube. Because those are real e…
/r/seduction11/01/20 08:31 PM
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Great post. I see your point. And it's quite smart: you give approach anxiety the power to change your outcome only if you think approach anxiety it really exists. I would add that what we call AA is both excitement, and an alert mode the body uses to protect ourselves while we focus totally on mating. It's useful (imagine approaching without it and crossing a street only thinking to the cute chick: car can hit you and bye bye hot chick), and it was useful (primitive human approaches primitive h…
/r/seduction11/01/20 08:21 PM
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Absolutely love this comment. It's honest, and scientific. Men want to strive and invest A LOT in everything : in being healthy, in being professional, in having a job that pays you 200 f**king $ more per month, in "personal growth", whatever today it means. And then, they realize they do not do what they want. They still don't have chicks around, but they are (in their mind) "high value". I say "fuck it". Sed is, first of all, something you learn : there are no naturals, those are simply people…
/r/seduction10/01/20 10:27 AM
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Yes, but they also are smart people who continuosly re-assess their game and correct it.
/r/seduction08/01/20 07:09 PM
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Good question. I am pretty much in the same situation, but I completely avoid to approach in campus : maybe I'm wasting tons of opportunities, but I don't want to be exposed for a thing I can simply do elsewhere (city centre, mall, stations). So if I shave to suggest you something, that something is: use uni for its own aim, for studying, career and friends; then go elsewhere and pickup girls (2-3 approaches per day , and 1 numb, are a good goal in the street, and also not so easy to keep it tro…
/r/seduction08/01/20 12:12 PM
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Go there , mimic you getting earphones out of you ear. The girl usually follows and she gets her earphone out of the ears. THEN talk. Very important : your mimic has to be quiet, calm and slow, like you want her to listen you because you're gonna say something really important.
/r/seduction06/01/20 10:05 PM
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haven't done an approach yet. That's your major problem, that leads to this : I imagine an approach going So, look for a game model, something that actually USES lines or pre-built phrases. I completely agree with your title, you can't as a beginner rely on "the moment": all the best begun with a set of well crafted sentences to approach girls. I didn't understand if your aim is approaching during day, night (in venues) or both, but I can surely say there's no actual difference between those. if…
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:40 PM
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If only you could know how many guys hit girls on social media... You could understand how difficult is to "attract" a girl there, having their attention. Leave social media, get out and do stuff, in the oldest way : live.
/r/seduction06/01/20 09:56 AM
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Surely. Physical escalation has to start as soon as possible, in a very smooth way.
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:22 PM
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What daygame really is ? I think tons of guys misunderstand this. Daygame is NOT a fast, easy, cost less way to get laid. If you want that, go to tinder, and hope you're the lucky handsome boy. Daygame is, absolutely, the fastest way to learn. Daygame is about one idea only : "If I can't get laid as my friends, if I am not so good with women, if I am not satisfied with my results, I'll throw myself into an endless series of error, mistakes, rejections, in the shortest time ever, so that I will b…
/r/seduction05/01/20 09:00 AM
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Great ! For me it's a big thing seeing someone that actually does daygame and writes field reports about it . Good job bro, keep trying this. One year ago I started daygaming, and it surely is not the way to get a lot girls into bed (if you're a beginner), but I think it is a sustainable process that slowly will change us and our self limiting beliefs. there does not seem to be a correlation between how hot the girl is and how hard it is to get a date with her. In my experience, the hotter she i…
/r/seduction03/01/20 09:14 PM
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How am I supposed to deal with girls that I find to be extremely attractive and are "out of my league"? I think you need to read/watch something good about seduction, because there are no "leagues". It's all about you, you ambitions, your persistency and how much you put it into numbers. I had a pretty similar story to yours, and what really changed my life was realising I had nothing for years, so why the fuck stay still and not doing anything? What could I loose if I go/went to a girl, saying …
/r/seduction01/01/20 05:32 PM
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Pick one book about daygame, and actually do the stuff it says. That's all. There's no "best book" or best method, because all the god methods say the same fucking thing. The real best is the one that's makes you doing and trying new stuff, in the field. So, if you want the best, do this : 1. Pick one method/book/course 2. Do the work, in the field 3. Measure results, compare to what you want for where you are 4. If it's not enough, go back to point 1
/r/seduction31/12/19 01:00 AM
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Yeah, I would add : the more you approach the less you'll feel (and she'll feel) uncomfortable. Keep doing this , approaching directly. I'm in direct daygame since 1 year, and this simple thing changed completely my life. P.S. "Creep" means "Sorry, I'm not attracted". And this is the advante of being direct : you'll know from the very first moment if your time is well spent or not. Keep doing this ;)
/r/seduction20/12/19 09:49 PM
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Good news : you can actually work on your SMV. It's way less physical as girls' one, but it will require a lot of mental strength. Good luck
/r/seduction20/12/19 03:21 PM
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I think that "breaking hearts" comes if the frame is "true love". The ability of PUAs , or of everybody that would pretend to do game, is to set another frame : the "adventure" frame. Once you set the right frame, the girl can follow (most of the times, if she's attracted) or not. So, by definition, you hook up with girls that say "ok" to your adventure's frame.
/r/seduction20/12/19 03:13 PM
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What if you have been speaking to a girl for awhile now and you are really interested but you are still trying to gauge her interest because you're afraid of rejection? This has a specific name : oneitis. Despite I'm according with you that a lot of girls suck at "game" (do girls need "game" as we think about it ?), I see a lot of points in your post that actually make me thinking you're afraid of being rejected. Point 1 : IF girls something really suck at game, why should we give more possibili…
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:54 PM
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Maybe for the little first steps. I had a pretty similar story to yours, but I made the real progress when I said "I don't need to drink a little or to get drunk to get girls. And if I need, fuck it, I will get girls without ruining my body with that shit". I never liked alcohol, but I always tried to use it to be more social. Since when I discovered that pickup is an ability and you actually learn it, I drink way less, and I feel way healthier.
/r/seduction17/12/19 04:36 PM
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Bad for me, good for others. And I encourage others to use, so in this way my (little) game will be more effective.
/r/seduction17/12/19 01:25 PM
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I think it could be slower because for a guy is quite easier to hit a girl on insta, because to reach her he only needs her name. Texting trought phone numb or WhatsApp is usually faster, because she uses it communicate with her closer friends, and also she doesn't loose you text over the 20 guys that answered to her story.
/r/seduction15/12/19 02:27 PM
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I would say no. Go alone. But my experience has been always with friends bad at game. And when I've been with guys good at game I felt a lot of competition. I strongly believe this is a "solo" game, everytime. But maybe it's just me ;)
/r/seduction15/12/19 02:25 PM
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Ah man, don't dispair. I'm in daygame since almost one year, and right today I did only 3 apps in 2 hours. For me the amount of approaches I do in a session is about 2 main factors : 1. Time between interactions : the fastest I approach once I'm out of my house, and the faster are the approaches one after the other , the more and the better I'm going to be 2. How well approaches go, and how technically I did those well : if I don't do well the stop, or the stack , it is my fault, and fuck it, my…
/r/seduction15/12/19 12:23 AM
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Never approached in a book store. I think it's pretty difficult to find the right situation. Do it on the street, and be direct and kind. No bullshits about books, go for a compliment to the girl and find out how she is and what she does in her life.
/r/seduction15/12/19 12:09 AM
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Tom Torero's "Street Hustle" book. Also I would say "The direct daygame Bible" by Sasha daygame. Less technical, but encourages you to go out and learn.
/r/seduction15/12/19 12:06 AM
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The all environment of the night game is designed for one and only one thing : sell you a product. The common shared narration about parties is that music is great, alcohol is free, and girls are disposable. And actually is often the exact contrary : music is awful, alcohol costs a lot and damages you, and girls don't really want to be approached. I've read all the other comments, and I've noticed how all the guys insist on the fact you're lazy and that you have to do more for night game. I say …
/r/seduction14/12/19 09:29 AM
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Learn daygame and approaching . It can solve 85 % of your problems.
/r/seduction13/12/19 11:54 PM
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Good point. I think also that we've always to remebr PUAs want to sell us products, so of course they do not show all the shit seduction really is. The average frustrated chump could kill himself seeing that the way to get out of hell (I mean, his condition) is actually worse than the hell itself. Because it really is. I love videos like ones from tom torero (never seen him flatten rejected, but a lot of sets went nowhere), Sasha pua (rejected a lot), James Marshall (see his own "blowout videos"…
/r/seduction13/12/19 08:48 PM
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THIS is the right mindset. That's all
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:50 PM
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How many approaches have you done in your life ?
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:49 PM
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Shit man, your results are GREAT. I do daygame since a year, and did the same amount of approaches as you, not so much dates, and only 1 lay. I really can't understand where your doubts are coming from.
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:48 PM
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Go straight forward, stop the entire family and say the girl is cute. It's not creepy, it's honest. Don't believe bullshits like indirect or whatever else : her mom and her dad will appreciate more a man that has the ball to declare what he wants, rather than a sneaky guy on the street that pretends to care about all of them. People evaluate honesty as a good thing. Be social, and make the stack anyway on the girl. Don't be fearful about the dad, the mom makes the rules about sexuality in family…
/r/seduction11/12/19 10:43 PM
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Right question. But let me ask you one thing : what if you never had one girl because you did not enought the "move on" ? Consider the possibility you are a 5/10, so instead of focusing on a 8/10 girl, that will unlikely stay with you, why not finding a 4/10 girl that will gain something staying with u ? Little secret : in this way you not only gain experience, but at the same your "score" will raise up, and dating a 4/10 you'll be more than ever closer to be a 6/10 respect before. Women value i…
/r/seduction11/12/19 07:16 PM
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Completely agree. I think today dating coaches' scenario is one of the worst ever : a lot of them does not really talks about moving on, "nexting" and having abundance mindset. Expecially the ones like ToddV and Rsd, they all focus on "becoming a pro" , like as becoming a pro is changing girls' mind. My modest opinion, I'm a beginner, is that becoming a pro is more about recognizing attracted girls and girls in their ovulation window, and all the technical stuff is useful, but earning margins gi…
/r/seduction11/12/19 07:08 PM
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Go for what you feel best. But measure results. And compare those with results of "the other side". Because at the end you want to have the best compromise between "being yourself" and "having game". P.S. If you have not game, "being yourself" only means to agree with the status quo that constrained you to to not have game...
/r/seduction03/12/19 09:40 AM
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What do you mean by "tracking" ? I use "Recent Contacts" for Android : it gives you a list of the contacts you took ordered chronologically. I thinks there's one for iOS pretty similar
/r/seduction02/12/19 09:38 AM
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Man, next !
/r/seduction02/12/19 09:36 AM
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I'm interested, I have the same struggle. Would you engage in a "we're not supposed to approach here" challenge ? It's simple : we have to do 1 approach per day in situation where it's more difficult than normal, just to break our mental limits. Send me a message if you want to do this
/r/seduction01/12/19 11:36 AM
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I want to say just one thing : THANKS ! I mean, G-R-E-A-T post. Really. I love this mindset, first of all because I completely share it, and second because today I had a bad day with "the journey". You're on this path since a little, and already realized this. This is huge man. P.S. What do you mean when you say you are in this journey ? What are you doing day by day ? Just curious
/r/seduction30/11/19 06:08 PM
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Go for the number.
/r/seduction30/11/19 09:22 AM
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No no and no. It's male biological DUTY to penetrate, have initiative and go for things he could be rejected for. Have yo it ever seen a sperm saying "ah ok if the egg wants me , it has to reach me!" ? Let's not be the most intelligent species on the planet and then flip the script for basic reproduction things. Then wondering why women are always complaining.
/r/seduction30/11/19 07:11 AM
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Number. Instagram and social media are apps designed to consume your time to provide her attention from followers (and consume her time). Only to sell advertising. She is generally ok in disqualifying people as "just followers", and you are another guy waiting for her content. Nobody wins. Number is straight forward, no bullshits on the table. If you go for the numb and she says "I can give you my insta", say "oh, ok so you don't have a phone, bye". It's a way to select who to trust of. In plus …
/r/seduction30/11/19 07:05 AM
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Here beginner of text game, but definitely not using those ways to communicate emotions. Focus more on story telling, teases, and not-neediness. Have you some good book/guide to suggest me about text game ?
/r/seduction28/11/19 04:00 PM
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THIS. I wanted to hear this. I started suspecting the whole "Next!" mentality could be wrong when I realized that investing a little bit in a girl that actually could not respond to you is difficult. And as all the difficult things in pickup : it has higher chances to work. Thanks for the comment, I was looking for a well reasoned point like this.
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:58 AM
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I see your method. Ive Just seen a video by Todd and he does exactly this. At the end I think it's all about how much you care about her. I mean, you could do this if you do this with a lot of girls at the same time. Because investing on a lot of plates surely makes you not needy in texts. I'll try your stuff, I want to be better at text and at making her feeling she's "special".
/r/seduction27/11/19 10:20 PM
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Texting chat
/r/seduction27/11/19 06:12 PM
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Daygamer here. From 30 mins to 2 hours. It depends. First message is always something that gives value, like a funny thing or some vibe about the interaction. No congratulations about look, really rarely questions. Those are my rules of thumb.
/r/seduction27/11/19 04:54 PM
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Hi man, I'm interested in what you say, because I'm a daygamer too. What type of rule do u use to consider the chat "dead" ?
/r/seduction27/11/19 04:52 PM
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Yeah yeah , I agree with you. But my point is different, I want to know if, supposed that I really keep approaching, like 20-30 in a week, there's a way to become "better" and more persistent at dealing with texts...
/r/seduction27/11/19 04:41 PM
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You have approach anxiety because of too much theory. In beginner stage doing it badly is actually better then not doing it (perfectly).
/r/seduction26/11/19 03:05 PM
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I would say 25 if you're already a master. Don't be too anxious to "have success". Game is first of all about being able to loose without going mad, and then, when you already had consistently loosed, you'll have some successes. My first date came after 100 approaches and more or less 20 numbers.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:38 PM
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Yeah maybe you're right. I'll get back on social media when I'll have more time and better game. It's always useful to hear different opinions. Thanks
/r/seduction23/11/19 10:10 PM
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N O .
/r/seduction23/11/19 09:54 PM
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Yes. I would say wait until she texts you. If a girl wants to come, she'll ask you for confirmation. What I am finding as a common pattern in my experiences is that I have 2 types of girls of which I have the number and we talked about date : Type 1 : Girls that I have evidence she's into me. No last minute confirmation needed. She writes to me for confirmation. Type 2 : Girls of which I'm not sure she'll come to the date, so to which I would send a confirmation text. Now, supposed that if you'r…
/r/seduction23/11/19 09:42 PM
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Never read it. But I'm curious. Critically curious. I think pickup is the antithesis of personal development, and Mason (that I LOVE for personal development) tends to mix up everything. Out there is plenty of guy "working on themselves", or "becoming better men". But pickup is not about becoming better, it's about facing the reality that, despite you're not perfect, you want to get anyway connected with other sex. And to do this, you've to face the pain, no excuses. No fancy "I'll be a better m…
/r/seduction23/11/19 09:23 PM
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There are different ways of showing social proof. Over and covert. By overt I mean : to show your social proof you actually need to show it really. You've to be the leader of the group, to get out with girls a lot, to post super fancy stuff/parties in your IG stories, have a great work/career, expensive hobbies... And then there is covert : fake everything, until that "fake" becomes your "character". This doesn't mean you should have a life with no other aim than fucking hot girls. You should al…
/r/seduction23/11/19 09:17 PM
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I think women care a lot about social proof. And social media are a good way to estimate how much a male has social proof. So if could give you an advice, leave dating apps and learn game in general or cold approach. Because if you have too little social proof, it will take years to build it through social medias, only for fucking tinder girls. Plus, each new match on tinder teaches you too little, respect each new approach you do in real life . With cold approach you can avoid having Instagram …
/r/seduction23/11/19 08:26 PM
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Go out again and try to approach again. One day you'll reach a point where you'll no more be ok with those failures. And that's when you'll start your journey.
/r/seduction22/11/19 09:00 PM
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I like this point of view
/r/seduction21/11/19 07:53 PM
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"Fake until you make it." Maths seems artificial and inauthentic. Then you learn it and it's the most useful tool in life. Music theory feels artificial and inauthentic. Then you can use it to write down beautiful songs. Storytelling techniques seem artificial and inauthentic. Then you can use those to make people travelling through centuries sitting on the sofa. We're humans. By definition everything we do is artificial. And authenticity : you can always choose to remain the authentic alone guy…
/r/seduction20/11/19 08:23 PM
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Study game. It applies everywhere.
/r/seduction17/11/19 12:03 PM
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Looks matter way less you think. Out there is full of a lot of examples of PUAs whose experience says the opposite of what you say : Tom torero = surely ugly Nick Krauser = totally bald Yad = come on look his face or physique and say to me he's an attractive man Sasha pua = when he used to approach he dressed in a very messed up way And many others... Your beliefs are simply wrong, and that's ok. We've all been there. So keep doing game. And recognise that all the people (pretending new PUAs tha…
/r/seduction17/11/19 11:58 AM
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Good post. Always nice having this finders along daygame journey.
/r/seduction16/11/19 09:43 AM
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On Reddit you'll find the theory, idealized reality. But by your own you'll find your own reality : your experience >> reddit
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:49 PM
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Man, focus on the Joy of giving honest compliments. I mean, cold (direct) approach if firstly giving, secondly (if it happens) having back. Don't give a shot about guys here, women adore guys that speak directly from their balls. And better than all, just doing this makes you growing as a person as no book of "self improvement" will do.
/r/seduction13/11/19 09:13 PM
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Man, approach. You can't even immagine how this thing is life-changing. Try it, consistently. And approach directly. You'll find how this is the thing nobody taught you, and there's a why. Direct approaches will lead you to : way more relaxed way to deal with your desires, complete abundance of options (that is the most important thing that girls search in a guy), an incredible set of things that will happen to you infield. Approaching directly is not a creepy thing, it's just an hard thing that…
/r/seduction13/11/19 09:40 AM
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According to this. Life is simple. Do you want to be good in that hobby ? Practise that hobby. Do you want to get good with girls ? Practise pickup. I'll never understand why "girls" or "love" should be different from all the other abilities of life. If you suck in it, study it.
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:15 AM
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"Ever wonder why none of your peers are getting good results even after taking a program with a "pick up" coach?" I think this is the most vivid example of exploiting virgins' anger, loneliness and frustration to make them resting where they are. The all concept of "fake infields" is stupid. And whoever does game knows how pleasant and disposable girls can be. Of course, who does not keeps saying : "she's a wh**e because she gave him the number!" Or "he surely paid her for it !!". No man, here t…
/r/seduction11/11/19 06:02 PM
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Seduction makes a lot of sense. You simply don't know the evolutionary biology reason of why behave in a certain ways... Next time you read/watch stuff about sed ask yourself "why should I do this". If the book / video doesn't give you reasons why, drop it.
/r/seduction08/11/19 10:09 AM
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Seduction is difficult if you think it is. Don't allow your bias to limit yourself. I bet you are a dude that actually has success in some other things in life (college, art, sport, family relationships, good friends ?) , and you've to realize that this happened because you've done the work. Not only great work, but also smart work. Sed is the same. Challenge your mindset. I would suggest to subscribe to ToddV "WinnerGame" free program , that's built for those things (and also contains challenge…
/r/seduction08/11/19 09:59 AM
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It's a little bit old. Text I think it's useful for "boiling the frog". I mean, she needs time (if she really needs), and also she needs one more important thing : knowing that you're an high value guy. So, chill out trought texts, never talk about serious things, take longer times to reply, and use texts as a "time consuming" commodity. For me texting is useful to take two days of chillout between approaching the girl and doing the date invitation.
/r/seduction07/11/19 01:47 PM
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Listen to music (I use to listen funky, it's quite a genre that transmits positivity), or call a friend are good strategies. I would also suggest : go out before daygaming to do other things that involve strangers. I usually daygame in late morning, or afternoon, so I've noted that when in the morning I go out to follow uni lessons or better I go to some libraries or to the grocery store I then feel way more relaxed on the first approaches. Btw always remember that , as Tom Torero said, "the fir…
/r/seduction06/11/19 09:39 PM
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What's Paul Janka's infields on YouTube . He does this, and I think you can actually learn from him.
/r/seduction06/11/19 07:37 PM
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You can improve this : I stayed in the relationship because I was afraid of being alone And this : I primarily asked her questions like "Where are you from, what's your major, and I would reply with my own set of answers Face the fear of being alone, get out solo during night or day and try to approach strangers. Just to know that it is not a big deal. When you talk to girl, instead of asking questions, make assumptions. Example : instead of asking "where are you from?" , Say "you look so Europe…
/r/seduction06/11/19 12:40 PM
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i start doing at least a few approaches and building momentum Are you referring to daygame or night game ?
/r/seduction06/11/19 11:42 AM
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I agree. Number, or anything.
/r/seduction06/11/19 12:19 AM
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Why alpha and beta are outdated?
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:34 PM
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People favourite argument is themselves. If the convo doesn't go, try to focus on what you noticed about her or whatever. In aby, case good to see you want to talk to another one. This means you're really trying to do it
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:33 PM
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Your past doesn't matter. You're 22, and you think you need motivation. I'm 23, and never had a proper LTR. But we're both here ! Struggling with the same stuff. And that's all that matters. The present. Really. Keep doing all the things you want, don't overthink, and don't listen negative people. Cut them off. But... Don't pretend to grow up. Because at the end pickup is like fight club. "This is not one of your seminars". DON'T try to be better, to grow, to become actually more. Be what you ar…
/r/seduction04/11/19 10:17 PM
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Interesting question, I know Manson (his blog is great, and I had read "The Subtle Art"), but I don't know when it comes to pickup how effective he can be... I'll follow this post, I'm interested in what others that read it think
/r/seduction04/11/19 09:55 PM
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Give yourself little challenges : 1 or 2 apps. But try to do it as frequently as possible, like once a day or once in 2 days. You need to : Construct the habit and a good amount of "past approach". This is important, once you'll be conscious you already approached chicks dozens of time, you'll feel way less free from approach anxiety. Not overstress. No matter what, do your 1 or 2 approaches when you promise this to yourself. Even if it rains , even if the girls are not beautiful, even if you're…
/r/seduction03/11/19 11:47 PM
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So, how is it going ? Have you done some practise ?
/r/seduction03/11/19 09:38 PM
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I'm looking RSDMax "The Natural". It's good, but he talks a lot in my opinion
/r/seduction03/11/19 09:26 PM
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Main tactic heard from tom torero : make her invest, basically once she has hooked, let her talk and express herself. Challenge her a bit , and join the conversation. Before things get too long interrupt her and say "Ok listen, you gotta go I gotta go, why don't we exchange numbers so I could invite you out maybe for a drink ?".
/r/seduction02/11/19 08:38 PM
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I really LOVE your conclusion. If I could choose own thing from all pickup is the rule "approach more". It seems to be the cure to everything .
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:41 PM
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I've telegram group for my city (Milan) and it is actually dead, I made a call for daygame , and nobody replied... Meanwhile looking for wingmen on platforms like joinwingman.com and wingmanmap.com, but still no results...
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:05 PM
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Thanks man ;)
/r/seduction02/11/19 07:03 PM
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I never tried it , but I hear a lot of people talking about it , what it was ? Like local Facebook groups for game ?
/r/seduction02/11/19 06:56 PM
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It could be nice having a subreddit not only dedicated to (proper) game, but also where people REALLY interested to game in the field can meet and then meet in real life , like a sort of "wingman finder" + "field reports" subreddit
/r/seduction02/11/19 06:54 PM
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Yes, of course. I consider an approach every time I walk to a girl and I directly stop her. If they respond well or no is not always depending on me
/r/seduction30/10/19 09:25 PM
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World is full of content, if you want pickup sources just Google it and you'll find it. So,instead of keeping reading, do one thing for yourself : get out there and approach (directly, indirectly, in whatever way you want) a cute girl. All of them while I am drunk because it seems that I am much more social and cheerful while intoxicated. So, because of what you wrote, do it during day, constrain yourself to accept your desires while being sober. It's more important this than whatever theory tri…
/r/seduction30/10/19 02:59 PM
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Italy, 300 apps, daygaming since beginning of 2019. Cold approach changed entirely my life because : Is easier than ever have new chicks around - despite huge flake ratio (that I think comes in any game) Made me aware of what means being a man that actually has balls to go for what he wants Teaches you that following the rules is the best way to not gain anything worth. Results different from the average come from doing different things. Having different methods. Makes you facing every day rejec…
/r/seduction30/10/19 11:30 AM
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Keep trying until you'll do it. I can confirm that the first times is really hard, but in few months you'll find yourself approaching 6 chicks in a row. What you only need to do is to face the struggle. Don't try to avoid it, become comfortable with it, is the only way. Keep trying going out there to make things happen, and remember that also people like Mistery and Tom Torero went out dozens of times in their early days before doing their very first approach.
/r/seduction30/10/19 08:33 AM
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I really like this post. It's a very good analysis of the state of the things. I do daygame since 10 months now and I can confirm I had more dates in those than in all the other life [23M]. I think you missed some points, that I want to add : Daygame is far more efficient : if you go daygaming you can (if you're able) approach 5 girls in one hour, that are completely uncorrelated one with the other, and this is actually not possible in clubs where groups of frienda usually go. You play the game …
/r/seduction27/10/19 07:42 PM
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Nice question, I struggled with it a lot of times in metro stations and never did anything. But I know that not going to approach her is only an excuse to not take action, whatever you think ( like "oh I could go on that platform but what if the train arrives and she jumps in ?" Or "maybe her bf is near.." ). So, thanks for the question, and my answer is "yes". I say it for you and for me, because , let's say it : there no really wrong place where to approach am hot chick.
/r/seduction26/10/19 09:31 AM
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No, I think mistermeanmistermean is the one right.
/r/seduction25/10/19 07:30 PM
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Yes, but not necessary. Also could be funny go to some pubs, where girls are more talkative. The only forbidden thing is to stay home.
/r/seduction25/10/19 02:27 PM
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Sure, here one interested. I think I also [M23] will go out alone this night, last time was funny, I met 2 girls in a bar and we had good conversation. It's useful to just chill out sometimes.
/r/seduction25/10/19 02:26 PM
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It's fucking funny knowing that few lines from the great Janka's "Getting Laid in NYC" can demolish in a blink all of this tactics they have
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:38 AM
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Definitely do it . And another day try going to a pub/bar. I did both and I came up with the best, sometimes worst, but always huge experience. You'll be there , and at the end you'll learn something , and the evening couldn't be "flat" because you'll be in charge of how much you're enjoying the night ! I think nowadays men have got too much dependent on social circles, and going out solo with regularity is surely one of the best way to feel in control of your life, to feel indipendent and to no…
/r/seduction23/10/19 08:25 PM
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This guy is right, look all the video on YouTube by Todd, James Marshall or whatever.
/r/seduction23/10/19 08:20 PM
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Of course it's complicated : it's the only biological purpose and the only reason for which we have our body and minds man ! We are practically designed to do this, but this doesn't mean that we have to not have the struggle. Exspecially if you consider how much in human history has been accomplished to avoid rejections, to stay safe and to not get out of your comfort zone. Technology, society and all those things made us working and living more efficiently but being less alpha, not going for wh…
/r/seduction22/10/19 07:19 AM
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Clubs and alcohol offer tog girls the right excuse too have a crazy night, for two main reasons : They wouldn't do the same crazy things in everyday life (make outs, blow jobs or fuck with a guy they just met) When they are called to explain what happened, they can always say "I was drunk and he was a douchebag" Also,every game has huge flake ratio. Do you think daygame is "easier" ? (I don't even consider social circle, Instagram o whatever other form of game). After some years spent in discos,…
/r/seduction14/10/19 01:55 PM
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Man , I honestly think everyone getting into pickup has this struggle. It will hurt, a lot, but I've to say it : you're not special. Have you ever wondered why pickup is not mainstream knowledge ? The feeling you're talking about is the reason. It's (luckily) a great selector between all guys on the planet. Some born alphas, some betas (I know this is oversimplified but let me think for this time in black/white), and other born betas but they want to "turn" into alphas. Could you think this turn…
/r/seduction14/10/19 01:06 PM
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The strange thing is that some weeks ago on his site was appearing the writing "Membership Site coming soon". I hope he's preparing for a new business...
/r/seduction14/10/19 11:08 AM
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I think the right question is : how many times have you been rejected in a year ?
/r/seduction07/10/19 03:10 PM
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I can talk about cold approach : abstaining is one of the most effective tool u can use to do it better. I think on dates is pretty much the same (I usually abstain, so I don't know the other case). It's just a question of chemicals/hormons.
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:34 AM
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Yeah, I won't do that in direct way. If you do indirect maybe is possible, just because you seem more a social guy that talk to everyone without thinking too much. Once you find the one(s) that like you enough to show it, transition to escalation and it's done. But one last thing : people will know also in huge cities. I live in a 1.2 million people city , and happens to me a lot to re-met girls I've approached, or to have common friends with girls I approach or whatever. So, it's not impossible…
/r/seduction24/09/19 02:19 PM
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I think is small, not because of "running out" of the girls, but because you lose anonymity in first few months. Think about it, expecially if you're doing direct daygame.
/r/seduction24/09/19 12:52 PM
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Thank you man. Posts like this are the gasoline for our motivation. Keep sharing, your story is worth of it. All the best
/r/seduction24/09/19 09:41 AM
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Milan , Italy
/r/seduction22/09/19 02:06 PM
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I don't agree with the ratio part. I think percentages are quite exaggerated, and also that those change a lot depending where and when you live in a certain area (and how you "use" it). But I ABSOLUTELY ADORE the post. As I always say , "science is not about the truth , it's about power". And this is a "scientific" post : it approximates reality on a certain degree, but the really important part is how it modifies your way of thinking. And so, how changes the way you act, making you more powerf…
/r/seduction21/09/19 06:05 PM
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so women will approach you. "so gold diggers will approach you"
/r/seduction20/09/19 09:18 AM
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Daygame => Long Term Learning Tinder => Short Term Fun Who you want to be in your 30s - 40s is only up to you. [As a daygamer , I don't believe you can do both at the same time : success on tinder makes you lazy on the street, failing on tinder makes you not confident to approach chicks "assuming attraction"]
/r/seduction19/09/19 12:50 PM
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YouTube + practise (to verify what works and what not). This summation is more than enought for starting.
/r/seduction17/09/19 07:02 PM
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Shining (I never tried it, but a friend of mine has choosen this as the film for dates at home, and he says it works : I'll try it , but i already think that the strenght is about the fact it is not so scaring, just how much is needed to get the girl closer)
/r/seduction17/09/19 04:19 PM
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Are there any guys that specialize in this sort of thing? Of course : everybody that's not learning game. What we call social circle game is not really "game". Game is about having girls out of your league, in whatever sense : not only super hot models as some say, but also girls you could never meet trought your social circle. In my opinion "social circle" game is basically the standard game path of girls : get social, become the hottest/best of the group, use your power inside this little trib…
/r/seduction17/09/19 04:15 PM
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Hi man. Here my experience. In high school I used to pass time on Social Media, now , after 5 years of uni, after knowing about daygame and reading "Digital Minimalism" by Cal Newport, I decided 4 months ago to disable my Instagram account (that was my main social) and to not care about Facebook (my feed is completely no interesting I think). Do you think I should start using these sites in order to be more successful in dating? No, no and no. Believing that sites or apps (Tinder) make you more …
/r/seduction16/09/19 12:16 PM
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The good thing with daygame is its anywhere and anytime This is exactly what I think. Also me, I'm doing uni + side projects that do not involve uni+ daygame + sometimes night game by my own (remains for me the most difficult). We should talk more on it if you want Sure, DM me , we could exchange useful advices.
/r/seduction15/09/19 06:49 PM
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As a result I have done daygame for the past three years and am grateful coz I have gotten good at daygame which is Awesome. I love this part. If I can give you advice : find a job/mission/something to do out of your city and go there. If you live in a huge city where you can find everything, find yourself something that geographically only happens in other cities. (Example : if you're a business consultant in New York, why you would move ? So, become specialist in something related to Europe or…
/r/seduction15/09/19 06:24 PM
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Good to hear this. So u don't need my advices anymore ;)
/r/seduction14/09/19 07:14 PM
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Do it as a sport. Enjoy playing this day-game. At the beginning I can confirm success ratio is 1/100 girls you meet, but then you start evolving and seeing improvements in daygame and also in other life aspects. Don't focus on recruiting or whatever, you don't need to win always. Society wants us to do things only to obtain something, but actually the best way u can do daygame is doing it because it makes (despite success or not) you feel alive, and also makes you learning - A LOT - about girls …
/r/seduction14/09/19 04:21 PM
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Do you prefer risk to lose her (insisting for condom using) or to "accidentally" have a baby or take deseases (not using condom) ? Answer this question. For me there no actually comparison between the magnitude of damages coming from the two risks. If there's for you, man, you only have a problem of options, not of condom. So learn game, practise plate spinning and abundance and learn to say "no" to girls' crazy proposals. P.S. If she really wants to get with you, she'll be ok woth the condom.
/r/seduction14/09/19 04:13 PM
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Don't reply. You're already in the wrong box, and escaping from it with this girl could cost you lot more than "entering" in new girls' boxes.
/r/seduction12/09/19 09:23 AM
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Yeah, the only cure is continuing approaching
/r/seduction12/09/19 09:20 AM
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Man, I know it's difficult. But trust less girls. Because also your gf has a lot of options, and the day in which you'll be more needy than ever, I promise it, she'll say goodbye to you. Because there are biological and sexual reasons for this. Not because they're "evil". It's just nature. So : Don't trust. Continue approaching, but don't friend-zone, go further. "Women would rather share a successful man than be saddled with a faithful loser". If you want to learn more about this quotation DM m…
/r/seduction31/08/19 08:17 PM
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Read "Conquer your campus" by Mark Redman
/r/seduction31/08/19 08:02 PM
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It's not a lie. But stop caring doesn't mean stop approaching and hustling. It means the opposite . The one who "doesn't care" approaches and hustle for the only purpose to approach and do game. And to do this you need to have trust in the method, and a lot of self confidence in reaching, now or in future (that's long term goal) pussy. Advice for Tae215 : take a pause, and concentrate on other things. At some point your body will ping you in the stomach for getting out there and pickup. So get o…
/r/seduction31/08/19 11:18 AM
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Go and get back your ukulele. Now.
/r/seduction28/08/19 07:13 AM
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Always number. Social medias work against you : You become one of the 1000 guys following her on Instagram-Facebook-Whatever , liking her post and rising her social self-esteem or status in the eyes of your competitors. She can easily access to you posts/contacts/life and know all about you without effort. And you know , girls are lazy, so they loose quickly interest about things they already know about. Taking number you are clearly communicating you want a contact from her to spend valuable ti…
/r/seduction27/08/19 10:00 PM
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Here daygamer. Look how the master solves this out : https://youtu.be/s49R2mN0bK8 In other Tom's videos u can find other lines. It's usefully to have a line ready for each shit test. Learn them, practise them the more u can.
/r/seduction25/08/19 07:56 PM
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I think in this post we have all the possible strategies to face shit tests in general. You're a master in this bro !
/r/seduction22/08/19 11:47 PM
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If you live in a well crowded city social media are completely uneuseful. I quitted Instagram after starting cold approach, knowing time was better spent on the street rather than in "making Stories" or "liking photos" . When you get back from cold approach session, if you don't have had good results, at least you learned new things about yourself and about girls in real life. Not on a engeneering-designed "social" app. In which they show you what they want you to see. Also I think males not bei…
/r/seduction22/08/19 11:43 PM
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You're absolutely right. In each sense. Nice to see people so open-minded here. And yes ,Nancy Friday secret garden is in my "future reads" list.
/r/seduction14/08/19 10:56 PM
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Great book, it won't turn you into a PUA by itself but it is required reading. Sure Women should read it too. I do not agree. But it is just my thought.
/r/seduction13/08/19 11:50 PM
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Read first chapter. Give it a try
/r/seduction12/08/19 05:54 PM
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I'm not looking for anything serious of course but I want to try and use the app to sort of experiment and see how it goes. Right mindset bro ! Do it . I was wondering if there's anybody who has used this app to do so and if that's the case, what sort of methods you used or if there is a specific post that discusses flirting on social media/exchange apps in general. I've done it exactly 1year ago (now you made me wanting to do it again). That's what I did : Open app and put a language you're tru…
/r/seduction12/08/19 05:54 PM
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Hope it has been motivational for taking action ;)
/r/seduction12/08/19 03:18 PM
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Be direct , be smiling, try to guess something about her. That's all.
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:30 PM
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Your numbers are good. Keep doing this ! I'm in this direct daygame too and I had my first and only laid after 170 apps I think or more. Keep tracking, it's useful. Don't trust people saying "don't keep the stats, concentrate on quality" . This is numbers game [Janka]. You can spend 1 minute of your time with 30 different girls or 30 mins with just one. In a pool of 30 girls, is far more difficult to have all them flaking instead of relying on just 1 girl with good interaction. I hope I'll get b…
/r/seduction06/08/19 06:27 PM
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I clicked on this post because the title made me thinking "Abundance is the solution". And I like to have confirmation from the post ;)
/r/seduction03/08/19 05:43 PM
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Yeah, perfectly normal. My first instant date came after 150 approaches. First date around 200 , and some weeks later (like 230 approaches I think) my first lay. It is a numbers game. I know how you feel, I've passed trought it . I still remember , before the 100th approach, the "what I'm doing with my time? I'm wasting time going around talking with girls that reject me most of the time" feeling. I think it is common. Trust cold approach / daygame coaches. Put it into numbers , do more in your …
/r/seduction02/08/19 08:44 PM
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If it was not useful to discuss, what are we doing here ? I think the main characteristic that all the guys in this sub have is that they want to discuss , being open and listening about others' successes but also others' mistakes, to learn from those and not repeat by their own. In my opinion the best advices coaches and books gave me where about failiures of the authors. Not successes. It's just my opinion, and I like to think others' failures will be worth of million successes, that's why we …
/r/seduction02/08/19 02:50 PM
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A lot. And you can't avoid this if you really want to learn pickup and choose the girls you bang. Other story if they choose you, and you learn little or nothing. Rejection is part of the game , at every scale (think to how many spermatozoons are "rejected" to make just one got inside the egg), and - hold yourself - CAN'T have all the girls you try to pickup. This is how natural selection works, it's Darwin theory baby, and , despite it is so evil, this principle fortunately exists and produced …
/r/seduction02/08/19 02:34 PM
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Read the articles, then decide. Don't trust me, trust the writer that did, with scientific care and measuring results, the experiments told in the 2 articles.
/r/seduction02/08/19 12:23 PM
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First read this : https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-d44892e18f75 Then this : https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a Cut half an hour in your day, and read them. I promise they will change what you think about dating app's social dynamics. Forever.
/r/seduction02/08/19 11:58 AM
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I completely disagree with the people saying that another guy came about, or that she is stupid because she is a woman That's right, a lot of male hate women. Don't listen to them. perhaps she suffers from anxiety? Much like a lot of people on this sub meeting people in public can be very scary for someone who suffers with mental health issues And that's why we don't have to care about this, she can be shy, mental unstable or whatever. Duty of the male is to keep going , not caring about her, an…
/r/seduction01/08/19 01:42 PM
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It's normal. I've experienced some girls I cold approached blocked me on WhatsApp (I say it because I can even see their profile picture anymore). It's normal, and it part of rejection. Don't take it personal and say "Next!" . P.s. if you can say "next", because you're in a little city, or live with parents or whatever, change the situation. Go in bigger city, do your own things. Focusing on one girl won't make you a better seductor neither make you a better guy. It will only make you feel chasi…
/r/seduction01/08/19 01:38 PM
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Great post man ! I really liked your charisma and willingness in opening yourself to this strange net of sed-students. I noticed we have a lot in common ! : We're both here, in seduction and cold approach, because of a girl we think we "wasted" because of scarcity mentality I started, as you, in Genuary 2019, going out and cold approaching ( or "daygaming") directly , kicking my balls and facing the world for what it really is Abundance Mentality il EVERYTHING. Literally. I think it has changed …
/r/seduction01/08/19 11:54 AM
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Man, happened to me twice that once I opened a girl in the street, the boyfriend came and joined the interaction. Street is waaaaaay safer than clubs/bars/parties. No one is going to hit you in the middle of the street during day time. If the boyfriend comes,do this : as he arrives, present yourself, explain (not justifying, just saying what you're doing) the situation like "hi! My name is ... And I was talking to your girlfriend, because man, let me say she is beautiful ! Congratulation my frie…
/r/seduction24/07/19 12:08 PM
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Because it is one of the most difficult thing a man can do today . Express his desires fearlessly. Never give up, because, if one analyzes this type of game understands it is the most smart, cheap, social-free (in the sense you are not constrained by social circle to have a limited number of options) , potentially-teaching and fun-and-not-predictable type of all games. Not taking into account you're taking action in a small time window when nobody is really trying to game the girl(cutting off A …
/r/seduction23/07/19 03:35 PM
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There are a lot of books/YouTube channels/blogs. So, in this abundance of market, just start with the one you like more. But : be smart. Don't just consume it passively. Whatever you choose, for whatever type of game, put it into practise and MEASURE results. Have a diary, or an excel spreadsheet, or record approaches or track how many numbers you get for week. Once you measure what you're doing you can, after a while (like months) switch from one source to another. Don't jump from one to other …
/r/seduction23/07/19 03:28 PM
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Same for me [23 M]. My strategy has passed from denying my sexuality answering "I don't like anyone at this moment" to the question "do you like some girl ? / Are you having some girl ? " , to saying "Yeah, but not just one.". That's why I decided to switch my behaviour : with those questions (and with the jokes they did on me if sometimes I revealed something to them) I understood they perceived my potential gf as an enemy (I've a sister, and I've seen this always applied with her bf, that she …
/r/seduction21/07/19 01:51 PM
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A bit rude, but honestly true.
/r/seduction20/07/19 07:47 PM
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This dude says it right ! Go only for the bests. I've also experienced periods of daygame in which I was going around not knowing why approaching. And that was because I didn't went for the bests ! So approach the bests, record some interactions if you want (analyzing them will make in you the willingness to do better the next time) and take the right pauses.
/r/seduction20/07/19 07:43 PM
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My stats are : 90 % streets (always the same), 10 % metro stations or malls. I think it is more difficult in closed spaces, but I give myself time to gain the ability. I hope one day I'll be able to approach directly in metro cars (it is really high social pressure place, because of closeness with other peoples).
/r/seduction18/07/19 09:23 PM
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Direct. It works like a filter. Because : if you want a girl you want her NOW; if she can't (bf reasons or whatever) she will have to say to you, and you won't waste time trying to please her and spend time in the friend-zone. Being direct is not about making the girl knowing what you want (because almost all the boys want the same from girls), but it is about making her knowing you won't settle for less.
/r/seduction18/07/19 09:20 PM
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Daygame.
/r/seduction18/07/19 02:13 PM
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Thanks, really. It's impossible to find Torero books in the net. Thanks man.
/r/seduction18/07/19 01:04 PM
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Re-approach is a "not-face-new-rejection" strategy : you go for the old-but-sufficiently-good (and flaky) girl instead of a new one. To quote Rollo Tomassi "A man Is valuable as his own options" , and if you re-approach a girl, having success or not, this means you don't have so many options. Re-approaching is a way to follow the easiest outcome, to not risk and to not learn and have challenge. And in the long run we both know where outcome-chasing takes...
/r/seduction16/07/19 08:21 AM
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Seems you think you are the center of the universe. Women don't really get intereste din you, unless you give a reason. I'll explain better with what it can really happen : Let's imagine you get inside the venue , and approach a girl / group of girls. You get success. So other girls will think "omg , that's a success boy !" And "I'll be grateful to talk to him, because this means that he considered me despite he has options" Or You already approached other girls inside the same venue. You go now…
/r/seduction13/07/19 06:12 PM
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Not days, hours. Better is between 30 mins and 2 (maximum) hours. Try this, girls appreciate you want to talk to them. If you wait more, from 3 or 4 hours to days, they will think you forgot them . So they won't respond.
/r/seduction13/07/19 02:08 PM
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Here 22 M, into daygame since 2019, disabled my Instagram account more than 1 month ago, deleted Facebook app. When I feel lonely, I go out and - at least - try to approach. What I noticed from my experience of no-social network early days : Without social medias you're much more in the moment, always Mystery works for you once you approach a girl (I do daygame, but I think works the same for night game/social circle game) and you go directly for the number. No "intermediate" zones in which you …
/r/seduction10/07/19 03:29 PM
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I really like posts like this ! Encourage me a lot for solo game, thank you sir ! P.s. not having really advices for you, just go out more and challenge yourself, as you're properly doing I see ;) (10 girls is great !)
/r/seduction05/07/19 07:45 PM
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Are u looking to flirt casually (texting, talking on phone, social media etc), or going on dates, or sex, or long term monogamy relationship? Looking for abundance. Basically if a girl likes u a lot and is down to do whatever u want to do. What would u want to do? It depends on your goal. If you want a gf, stay with her in a LTR. I think it also depends on how much time you spent on cold approaching : if too less, you're gonna settle down for a LTR as soon as possible (you're still in the initia…
/r/seduction05/07/19 10:08 AM
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just say fuck it and take action. You know what's right. Todd says it in every course. Get out of your house and do it. Or continue spending money, wasting time and watching your life going away while you're still "studying" pickup in theory. Being pickup theory is uneuseful and frustrating. Do it for yourself, risk.
/r/seduction01/07/19 01:23 PM
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According to Sasha Daygame it is easier. If she's a girl in her 20s and mild mom, it could be. [I've only one case as experience, in direct daygame way (so going with compliment), so I'm not talking in terms of authority in this field] Try it several times, and then decide if it is worth. I think I'll try again this, because surely girls are not often picked up by guys while their mom is there (a lot of guys consider his creepy), but actually the mom seems to be your best wing to game the daught…
/r/seduction01/07/19 01:19 PM
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Pickup learning is based on the assumption you can be free to make mistakes, expecially if you are a beginner. Try it somewhere else, not at work. Cut yourself 1 h a day (come on you have it, when it's about girls we all have time ;) ) and go day/nightgaming by your own. You'll see that when you'll be able to pickup everywhere, and you'll have the "abundance mindset", girls at work won't make any difference. In negative (you won't care anymore about them because you an have better with less soci…
/r/seduction29/06/19 11:30 PM
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Maybe its normal when you get started? did/ do you get that feeling? Yes, because your displaying your value trying to convince her to get into bed. Do you think most people can make it work? No. And that's ok, there are a lot of other type of games like night, social circle and text game out there. Everyone should use the one he likes and finds better working for him.
/r/seduction25/06/19 08:35 AM
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Ok. Daygame requires anomicity. Requires numbers. So if your city is less than 500 k don't do it. You'll burn all the city ! (Or do it and to the hell the city, this is an ability you want for life and for your self ;) ) But in general if you are in 1 million or more people city can also happen that the chick you approached knows indirectly you or your friends. (Or you re-meet her, happens to me different times). So city is "little" depending on different random things. Don't think in NY you can…
/r/seduction24/06/19 04:52 PM
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Since early 2019. I've done only 150 apps, so I'm not an expert. But I like it and it's changing my way of approaching not only girls but also life ! I feel more relaxed about girls and romance and whatever now, I don't rely anymore on nightclubs or friends or "social network pickup". I know, the journey is long (at least 2 years of apps to become well structured) but I think I'll thank myself at 35. It is difficult to invest in this thing because is not easy at the beginning, but all abilities …
/r/seduction24/06/19 04:26 PM
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You can't control, you've to do it repeatedly. Day by day, week by week, month by month.the rush is always there but you'll become less and less sensitive to it.
/r/seduction24/06/19 04:21 PM
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Yeah, follow that link ! I'm "studying" from that source too. Tom is the best, he says correctly "you need a structure " , then when it will be built (1 or 2 years) start improvising.
/r/seduction24/06/19 03:08 PM
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but when it comes to girls that study with you or something, you can catch feelings and there's not a lot you can do about it, if she doesn't feel the same Yeah, I completely agree . What I noticed starting daygame is that it gives you (despite that can like you or not, and usually doesn't happen) big confidence with girls you study with. Before daygame for me trying with class mates was hard, now, just because I know the street provides me everyday new opportunities, I give less fucks becoming …
/r/seduction24/06/19 03:05 PM
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Doesn't making friendly small talk lower your chances and the tension that you're trying to build ? Yeah, but you're always in street, and you can't be too much sexual because you just met her. Or if you want you can, but let me know when girls will stop running away. Calibration (finding trade off between social and sexual ) is needed. A lot. On another note, what makes a girl not interested in you, but others interested ? I mean, I'm the same person with both, is it common interests or what ? …
/r/seduction24/06/19 01:41 PM
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how does a small conversation make a girl get invested ? Is it because you're already ahead most guys, since you're approaching her ? Yes. You jumped all the queue she has behind her ass. On Instagram. In clubs. At uni. At work. Of course, she can like you or not. Depending of the type you are, how you speak, what you say. The only thing one can do is the best to optimize the ratio of girls can like you. To get her investing is the most difficult Hong of daygame. Also, I still don't get stacking…
/r/seduction24/06/19 01:11 PM
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Yeah, use tactics for a while. Then you'll feel it when to switch to some free style. "Get the girls and the vibe will come" is like saying "make a lot of moneys and you'll become rich". Doesn't make sense. You want how to get moneys, not how to feel rich. Use schemas or ideas developed by others about precise and measurable things you can do. Also lines can be useful when one has no girls. Then switching to something more vibe-dependent is natural.
/r/seduction24/06/19 11:54 AM
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First of all, I'm a 23 M and I've been in your situation a lot of times bro! And I used to do this, removing them. Expecially on Instagram. But what I found is that : Surely removing them is useful to forget them They notice you do it, that could be good or bad. It depends if you really want to say "fuck off" or "hey I'm trying to say to you I'm on the market again, so you're losing your opportunity " Continuing following them is REALLY painful for you, REALLY satisfying for them And most import…
/r/seduction24/06/19 11:47 AM
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I realized that approaching girls on the street might be a pretty good idea. Yeah, Tom saved also me ;) Should I give compliments ? Yes. But in your way. I mean, you can stop her and, with big eyes and huge smile, say "You're sooo beutiful !" Or you can just stop her and say, as Tom, "You look ... really nice". The problem is not about the compliment (because, if you stop her, she already knows... Unless you ask for directions/time). Is about the stack. After the compliment one has really soon t…
/r/seduction24/06/19 11:28 AM
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La cosa bella è proprio questa, che in realtà pochi sono in grado di rendersene conto : non c'è bisogno di amici etc per rimorchiare. Io l'ho capito solo in questi ultimi mesi, e mi reputo molto fortunato perché ho solo 23 anni. Le prime volte il prezzo da pagare in termini di confidence è alto. È più facile trovare secondo me gente disposta a fare bunjee jumping che a uscire da sola o ad andare a provarci in maniera diretta con una sconosciuta. Ma sul lungo periodo sono stra sicuro quest'abitud…
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:16 PM
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Ahah it completely isn't . Milano. È stata una delle cose più difficili che ho mai fatto uscire da solo. Ma qualche volta ne è valsa la pena, e altre volte ho potuto godere di estrema confidence anche quando uscivo con amici vari. Purtroppo qua siamo ancora moooolto indietro , se esci da solo sei tra lo stimato e il pazzo di manicomio (nonostante l'età giovane, 23). Ma non nascondo che capita delle volte che mi trovo fuori con amici e a causa del loro terribile "game" mi dico "cazzo dovevo venir…
/r/seduction23/06/19 11:25 AM
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Smiling is good ! Don't change it ! It means you really like her. Once she's hooked you can "calm down" and smile less. But in initial phase of interation is fundamental.
/r/seduction23/06/19 09:50 AM
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Huge ball my friend ! I say it because I've done solo nightgame few times. So I know how it feels when it doesn't go as you want. I completely agree about getting in the mood as quickly as possible. I've a trick : as soon as I arrive I start randomly talking to a group of guys, and I try to talk about the party and the hot chicks I've seen (not referring particularly to one of course ;) ). Guys always smile and agree when they see someone liking girls as them. But I have a suggestion : go indire…
/r/seduction23/06/19 09:46 AM
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Come on man, just do it. If 26 is late, what is the age at we're going to die ? Start daygame. The most difficult, the better to learn. And the better to learn things you can apply everywhere else. I'm 23, just you to know, and I've wings that are 24 or 29. So, not excuse, facts. Go out there, do your jobs as a man. Don't procrastinate with personal growth. Pickup is the attempt to get hot and beautiful girls. Personal growth, career and all other stuff is doing everything else. [BTW doesn't mea…
/r/seduction21/06/19 11:02 PM
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All in all it went well. I felt great after, even with the "rejection" if you can even call it that. As I'm walking around some more there's a few other IOIs from cute girls, including a beautiful black girl with her pretty friends who we have some brief eye contact and she says "hey" while I stupidly just smile and keep walking. Doh! Yeah , once you start seems that they all want to be approached ! It is incredible. So continue do it , you've just started a beautiful journey, I like your willin…
/r/seduction21/06/19 10:45 PM
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Completely agree, this changes all your life.
/r/seduction19/06/19 09:38 AM
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This happens because you've never or rarely get reward from approaching. So the solution is : approach. Don't give a fuck of bothering, and approach. Be arrogant and get into their dialogue and approach. Take risk, be the man you want to be, and approach. No techniques on this part of the journey. You simply have to push yourself in a suicide mission (that can actually, in long terms, get you laid). If you don't try consistently (so several times) you'll never have the reward-positive-reasons to…
/r/seduction19/06/19 09:37 AM
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Listen to the comment of u/justmuro ! He's really right , no texts : real actions (expecially because you are completely able to escalate physically and verbally as seen!) Invite her out, doesn't matter if for studying of just for a walk, the important thing is that you know she's not going to have excuse for making knitting happen . I explain better : if you invite her out to study, don't do it in the afternoon before next test , but in a more relaxed moment, so in this way when you'll try to e…
/r/seduction19/06/19 09:31 AM
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Continue, you're so lucky to be that young ! I see what you're saying, I'm 22 yo and the majority of the ones I approach are older than me ! So in this comment I give you all the responses I've given myself a lot of times I questioned the same about myself. So, in order : She feels what you feel. So if you display you have enought balls to go for her and bang her despite she's older, if she likes you, and you subtly make her aware of privacy (so not boyfriend mode etc. ) she will be ok with that…
/r/seduction19/06/19 08:47 AM
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I find sometimes in the same situation. What I do is "punish" myself , not allowing myself to watch and read other sed stuff (that can really become addictive) unless I do X or Y. To do this you need discipline, that is a common ingredient for all learning processes. So do it, be hard with yourself. Don't rely on next video/book to become more "perfect" : perfection is a myth and can be reached only by theory. P.S. NEVER drunk. Game is all about girls out of your league, WITHOUT any help. If you…
/r/seduction16/06/19 01:36 PM
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Good ! Try out some daygame , London Model is quite simple and good for starting out, where are you going to move ? Big city ?
/r/seduction16/06/19 01:13 PM
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Yeah, no in real life mentor. I've started following videos by Tom Torero to know the model, then I expanded my knowledge thought other puas ... But I don't want to pay to become good in this, my time and balls are valuable enought . Once I got out with a wing, but I usually do it alone. Game and daygame in general are the arts of being a man without any help, wherever whenever
/r/seduction16/06/19 10:03 AM
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Yeah, the point is this. The less you want to be rejected, the less you can learn. Go out there and don't take personally, also if you're in a big city (more than 1 Mln people) a ton of girls you can meet by daygame are completely out of your league : you could never met them in other way, so why not give a try and , at least, "waste" them for learning something new ?
/r/seduction15/06/19 03:15 PM
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21, plus or minus 1 year ago Edit : I want to explain it to you. All game I talked about, and from I'm learning, is 90% daygame , 10% night game. No alcohol, no social circles, no clubs. I really like daygame and cold approach, it's less rewarding than nightgame but you learn A LOT more (it REALLY changes you life and your way to approach society behaviours , and also chicks ahah) and you can go to "lesson" whenever you are free, not waiting for events or parties or wasting out nights you could …
/r/seduction15/06/19 03:07 PM
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I think there are no naturals. What we call naturals are just guys that started not giving a fuck about rejections before us. And then they built an habit on this attitude. Once you have the habit,you automatically get a lot of experience. I'm 22 yo M, just for context. I started with simply searching "pickup" on YouTube. Months ago. Despite the shortness of my journey, I really enjoy it everyday. Before I started learning actively pickup all the things related to girls and love were confusing m…
/r/seduction15/06/19 02:01 PM
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Daygame ! If you live in a well populated area (city of more 1mln people) do it ! It basically consists in getting out during day, approaching with a compliment hot chicks and - painfully - start learning how to have confidence and "game". The process is long, and if you are outcome dependent (you want to get laid as soon as possible ) it's not for you. But long process, great gains in some months/year. Try this "investor mentality", start spending your time to actually learn instead of enjoying…
/r/seduction13/06/19 12:31 PM
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I've read all the comments : this is the most proper to the entire post. You exactly gave the definition ! (If I could I would upvote this 300 times !)
/r/seduction13/06/19 12:24 PM
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Ahahhaaha One of the best comments of all in this subred , I LOVE it
/r/seduction05/06/19 01:58 PM
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Guys I've read all you comments , so : thank you . I've understood searching for "challenges" or "programs" is actually bullshit and excuse making to not go out and improve myself. So, no searching for programs anymore, I'll go out and JUST DO IT ;)
/r/seduction05/06/19 12:55 PM
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Also the thing about indirect, for me anyway, is that I go more into my head trying to find an excuse to talk to her. At which point I take too long, AA starts kicking in and then I make excuses for not doing it. I've found better results trying to follow 3 second rule and just going up right away with direct. Completely according with second paragraph, once I've started to go direct I can't do anymore indirect because AA rises a lot more. Maybe we'll get back to indirect sometime , just in term…
/r/seduction02/06/19 03:24 PM
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Ahhhh , ok now I see ! Actually it seems a good method , I'll try ;) first indirect and then "ok I confess, I approached you because... "
/r/seduction02/06/19 02:18 PM
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Maybe yes , but be careful ! A lot of girls put you in the "friend" or "random social guy" or "maybe gay" category, and once you're there , getting out is impossible ! You have less rejections, less "direct" rejections like "I have a boyfriend " or "do you do this with all other girls ?" , but you're also have A LOT MORE "ooohhh he's so nice! He cares about my opinion! I want him to be my cloooooosest friend while I fuck the random dude I met in station" rejections. I can't handle the second one…
/r/seduction02/06/19 01:17 PM
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Keep trying man, less posting . Results will arrive, don't panic : it's a long difficult (potentially high rewarding) journey.
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:13 PM
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Yeah , I agree, maybe I realized I shouldn't be too much robotic after a while, but I think that is quite normal : we've always to consider that approaching direct, if you've never done, is quite difficult first times. On the other side I think one should look different resources, just to know how different people think in terms of pickup, and that's what I'm doing, this really helps your growth ! P.S. I don't have a bike but approaching while you're on it is really "ballsy" ! The confidence you…
/r/seduction31/05/19 12:21 PM
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I also started with Tom ! Great to found you two know Tom both. But know I feel it's really simple-robotic tecnicque , and I'm shifting to Shasha , have you ever heard about him ? He is incredible, I've seen some infields he did time ago, and there are 2 that are I N C R E D I B L E . I REPEAT : INCREDIBLE ! Those : https://youtu.be/wrHOicsobe8 https://youtu.be/Y8omK5D18j0 I don't say anything to you about those. For me are increbile , and I really think they're not fake (secret society... As to…
/r/seduction30/05/19 06:17 PM
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Perfect ! Let me know tomorrow on this comment , I'm curious
/r/seduction30/05/19 06:11 PM
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Man, you put a lot of effort, so continue doing this ! Remember : the first daygame problem for guys is that they leave it too much soon. Very good the fact you didn't stop approaching despite you know you don't flirt with them. So, my personal advice : GO FOR A COMPLIMENT Set your daily challenge like this : " Today challenge : do just 1 approach, but giving honest and authentic compliment " . The next day, add 1 compliment more to do. When you'll become confident with those compliments given, …
/r/seduction30/05/19 05:27 PM
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Here man! After I begun some months ago, I'm reaching 100 apps, and I start seeing some - not precise, but understandable - patterns. I'm a beginner in this field, but I'm really enjoying this journey ! I've noticed that daygame is become day by day easier , and it also helps "nightgame" and "social circle game" : is basically helping me A LOT in having the right confidence with girls , everywhere. The most difficult things I think are not to think you're the only one that practise it, so here w…
/r/seduction26/05/19 10:15 PM
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Ehi man , italian Daygamer here ! I see your condition, but I think Switzerland is quite similar to Italy in terms of culture. To daygame properly just ask yourself if the city in which you are is big enough (at least half a million habitants, to not get "burnt" with the necessary number of girls daygame requires to become "productive"). All other things are bullshit : approaching women is creep also in America or UK , where those things are more common than here . I'm doing daygame in Milan, so…
/r/seduction26/05/19 10:03 PM
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Daygame ! I'm in it too since few months. Would you engage for some challenges with me ? I'm struggling, I usually do 3 approaches per day, but I want to get better, and could be an idea. We could get better togheter, DM me !
/r/seduction21/05/19 07:10 PM
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Ok , I see you, you've done a lot of training , and that's good ! May I ask in which city ? And always same zones in it (or different cities) ?
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:14 PM
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Do Self development if you want a developed self. Learn pickup if you want girls. Start listening this : https://youtu.be/oN012TqEiTU Contains few good ideas , let me know what you think
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:10 PM
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Before you read : Man, I'm really sorry for my tone, but this is exactly what I think. And do you know why I am so arrogant with those topics ? I've missed a lot of opportunities a lot of times because I made the same error you did. So I don't want you to pass through the same shit I went through. That's my comment/suggestions : We matched on tinder and went on a first date for coffee and a walk. I paid. We found out that we had a bit in common: we went to the same college, have a few similar pa…
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:00 PM
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Man , this post is really interesting ! I really like your critique on yourself , and also the fact you admit you're having struggle with this journey. I also this struggle is the bill a seductors has to pay, everyday of his life in which he'll continue to seduce girls. Nothing is free, abilities neither. On the other side you are learning a lot ! And I think (maybe in a while, when those are less expected) will happen things you can't believe possible ! Things that we've seen in TV series like …
/r/seduction17/05/19 12:11 PM
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Omg again ! You're a beast! I see you, and I understand how you feel, but it's ok, I think you are learning, and you've surely developed an "approach ability" through your time ! I'm on the other side of the balance : I've done a mean of 15 approaches per month (since 4 months I do daygame) but I'm doubtful about getting more volume (that would require more and more time and surely greater efforts) or giving all up. Despite my (nearly) 60 approaches , I've obtained like 12 numbers/igcontact,but …
/r/seduction08/05/19 04:18 PM
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Omg you did a lot ! Can I ask you the "got laid" ratio ? I don't know how much it should be , but I think the learning process should be intelligent, and not based on merely repetition. So no, I don't think you can obtain result doing whatever, that's it learning : learning should be "first I recognize my errors", "second I correct errors behaving in a certain way", "third I internalise those correct and "good outcome" producing behaviours so I don't have anymore to think to put them in action" …
/r/seduction08/05/19 03:49 PM
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Here Milan too, man
/r/seduction07/05/19 06:31 PM
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Man , I think that there are no special lines to make a girl coming out, the only thing you can do is behave differently from other guys asking her for coming out. Sometimes you're basically not her type, and in this case, you have really to be a man : accept it. Only children think they can have all they want, but life (and pickup) is way more different. There are opportunities, moments and occasions, nothing is sure, but the only thing you can do is to try always. If you re ask for meeting her…
/r/seduction30/04/19 07:06 PM
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Another way would be answer "hmmm" , that display you're doubtful about her, and at the same time you're not ok with her refuse. In any case, there's no really text game, girls can change ideas (the same as boys do, of course), or maybe could happen something in between you met her and the "date request" (someone said "ex boyfriend"?!?!) , or maybe she's in a period, but she doesn't want to say it to you because you're some sort of stranger and saying that would be admitting she would f**k you a…
/r/seduction29/04/19 01:45 PM
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Sure man, I've done 2 times (not properly clubs, but parties, I think a little bit different, because everyone talks and you have to approach someones) ! Go to that party, you won't regret ! What I felt going is indipendente, sense of freedom and, in both case of "successfully" or not evening (I'm talking about girls), I was really proud of doing it ! P.s. If you're looking for motivation, look my (actually first) post on my profile ! (Don't worry, I've only 2 posts, I'm here since few days )
/r/seduction29/04/19 01:35 PM
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Great post man, if you want some scientific prove of what you rightly said : https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-d44892e18f75 https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a I really like those articles ;)
/r/seduction28/04/19 09:52 PM
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Nothing in particular my friend, just say hi if necessary, don't say it if you have to chase her. Dedicate your valuable time to some other chick, use preselection and jealousy to make the girls chase you, let them know you go for the beautiful things you see in life : always.
/r/seduction27/04/19 11:00 PM
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Bro, you deserved it ! You've got the strength of iron and the resilience of gold ! (your FR remembered my last, I know how you feel after a night like that : , really, really good and proud ;) )
/r/seduction26/04/19 10:40 AM
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I like your way of thinking bro !
/r/seduction26/04/19 10:38 AM
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Man, if you're searching for motivation, look my post about going out alone, and maybe you'll do the right thing : https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bfc1xs/why_you_need_to_get_out_solo_and_practise_night/ ​ Go to that party, you can't know now what will happen there !
/r/seduction25/04/19 10:48 PM
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Do you know which is the real power of girls in the sex market ? Communication. They pass their entire lives talking about relations, sex and guys. And do you think that an alone man "investing on himself" will increase his value ? ​ I think we've basically discovered their real super-power, so I'm not ready to renounce to this big advantageous discovery !
/r/seduction25/04/19 10:16 PM
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For everybody, expecially if you use Tinder (I hope with success) : I'M NOT AGAINST TINDER. Read and you'll understand why. ​ I'm in the exact same situation bro ! I've tried Tinder and , after 1 year of swiping, I've obtained noting than 2 dates, actually bad dates. On the other side I've a friend living in another city of Italy (I'm in Milan, he's in Turin) and he gets A LOT of matches. I haven't figured out how and why (I think he looks "sweeter" in photos, while I'm looking more "badass" , a…
/r/seduction25/04/19 10:11 PM
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Hey man, that's my experience : I've tried direct daygame openers (like "Sorry, can I just say someting random? I've just seen you there and I think you look really nice! What I noticed about you is that… - and then talk about her look, her facial expressions, her dressing, or just invent some story in which she looks like your french friend and so on … - ) for about 60 different girls, but I'm starting to think that they DON'T actually work, or, if they work, they work but not with really 9s an…
/r/seduction23/04/19 10:41 PM
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Man, thank you for those ideas ! Seem really helpfull ;)
/r/seduction23/04/19 10:30 PM
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Yeah, I completely agree, the evaluation, on whatever level (emotional, sexual one) , of the partner happens live, so what happens before the date could be a hint, but not a base on which build expectation. For Tyrion : ​ Don't think you're doing it wrong, and don't listen friends that try to convince you that this date or that one could go better "if…" . In pickup or seduction there are not "if...", things happen or things don't, and if don't , next time behave slightly different, and one time …
/r/seduction23/04/19 10:23 PM
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yeah, completely according to the delivering of "privacy", will be useful for next times! Yes, Milan feels like europe, and that's maybe the real advantage respect a lot of different places in Italy. I used to do daygaming in my late-teen/twenties, then I settled for 15+ years in a LTR + kids. After breakup several months ago, I worked a bit on myself, around 1 month ago I just started to go out and approach people for the sake of interacting. I respect your courage to bring again game and try h…
/r/seduction23/04/19 09:30 PM
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Are you keeping conversation? Are you asking for phone number (or any social-thing to communicate)? How your interactions go? Does it happen to meet them again (maybe at the same place in another day)? Yeah, I try to keep conversation going, without asking questions or seeming needy, both on presence and on the phone with number or ig contact (I've started collecting phone numbers, but then I thought that if contact would be better because if the girl usually sees my stories and so on I could ha…
/r/seduction23/04/19 09:09 AM
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Hey man, I see you! Unfortunately I'm not from UK (Italy, and I'm also looking for a wing but I can't find anybody, look my last post :) ), but I think we can engage in some "virtual" wing challenge ! We, for instance, can challenge eachother on a certain number of approaches per day, promising each other we'll tell truth about what we did on the field or not . If you like this idea, let me know , it could be an interesting way to solve wings absence using the net in a proper way ;) !
/r/seduction22/04/19 10:53 PM
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That's dope !
/r/seduction21/04/19 11:14 PM
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​ ​ My friend, that's my honest, experience based opinion : Dating apps : delete them, they corrupt your self esteem, IN ANY CASE, if you get laid or not. I have friend that use them, get laid once ore twice per month, and then call me to explain what they did during dates : always same script, all girls are the same, all girls have the same "ex-boyfriend" problem they're trying to solve out using you to prove themselves they are still cute. In dating apps you are the choosen, not the chooser : …
/r/seduction21/04/19 11:13 PM
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Your saying it's a BS is actually a BS. Dating apps are designed from male engineers that assume girls reason as they do : "He's pretty enought, so why not bang him ?" (If you're reading this, stop and think : when was the last time you heard a girl saying this phrase without drinking or being considered as a whore ?) ​ On dating apps you can have success or not, but, guess what, THAT'S NOT THE POINT. The point is, do you wanna get laid at every cost (did you know you could pay for it ?) or do y…
/r/seduction21/04/19 10:49 PM
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Really liked your video bro ! I don't know and I can't say if dating apps are good or bad for society, but I think they affect really bad you self exteem as a male in a societt that says "male ask, female answer" (here male can't really ask without permission!) , because you get laids (if you get them without paying) without striving to make the girl interested in you. ​ I basically think that, with dating apps, you're not "playing the game", because game is played on "maybe" girls, and matches …
/r/seduction21/04/19 10:16 PM
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Man , you're comment should be taught at school ! Completely agreeing with this mentality, in a overconnected world, we should not keep this frightening fear of say a f**king "hi" to a cute girl ;)
/r/seduction21/04/19 01:50 PM
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Some of the sets asked me this : reply smiling, saying you passed nearby and you get curiously inside, don't give a fuck about their reactions, and guess what, they will not give a fuck too People feel what you feel, the only way to convey confidence and masculinity is to be confident, outcome indipendent and not-a-shit-giving P.s. if girl accuses u to be there just for pickup (very common shit test from not-so-pretty girls) , say smiling "yes, of course, did you think I was gay ?" and pass over…
/r/seduction21/04/19 12:53 PM
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Don't ask. Push her to the point she has to decide : girls want to be in power, and when they are, they start to do (for them, not for you ;) ) the wrong thing. >Play with her, excite her to the point she wants only the one thing from you, than, boyfriend or not, you'll be able to take her to physical level, and once there, she will more difficulty return back to the bf. ​ in synthesis : no words, just fact, intrigue her rather than convincing her, be man, be ready to lose her, because the quali…
/r/seduction21/04/19 10:37 AM
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Try, maybe results will not come immediately, but you can win only if you try. Eyes on the price, because it's quite big
/r/seduction21/04/19 12:56 AM
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Man, you don't even need luck, because a lucky man will be the right one at the right moment, but a men able to gain abilities and able to have perceverance will learn how to be, not just once, the right man at the "always" moment. Go out, practise, make mistakes and let your life become greater than what you could ever imagined ! "You deserve more"
/r/seduction21/04/19 12:54 AM
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Yeah ! It sounds good 5 per week ! (for me I can't say the same , for me you're basically a model to follow) But 5 per day , 3 times at week is much better , just because once you've put yourself in the mood one day, use it to do the max as possible ;) On the other side I've discovered that daygame is good , but the classic one is the real rewarding competition : Wednesday I went alone to an open wine aperitif , and with the daygame training on the shoulder you don't know how much easier is to a…
/r/seduction20/04/19 08:38 AM
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Same for me bro, I'm going through a period in which I've no daygame results (I'm in it since 3 months). But I'm thinking is a matter of numbers, a lot of coaches say that they passed through the years of "1 number per day" , but this period was no productive in any way. The time you spent in daygaming in terms of days is not relevant, number of approaches is. Maybe because 1 or few numbers in a day (I mean less that 3) make you too much focused on that "special" ones (for me is unfortunately li…
/r/seduction19/04/19 10:58 PM
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try to go there just to make a compliment , saying "ehi excuse me, can i just say something random ? I've seen u there and you look really nice , and I came back just to make compliment" , try this few times , and then you'll find out that your masculinity will push you forward to continue the chat with her (first times with questions, then with assumptions) p.s. I think cold approach is basically built on being direct , so BE it ( have you ever seen "Tom Torero daygame beginner's guide" on YouT…
/r/seduction12/04/19 04:11 PM
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in this case (because of the quotation) at least 5 days , at max 2 weeks, and after those - please do it - delete any contact/number/Instagram you have of her (if she follows u on ig, and she'll have renewed interest in u, she will open the chat) : I understand your curiosity about how it could go with her, but I don't understand your no-curiosity about spending your time in investing on new girls
/r/seduction12/04/19 03:58 PM
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