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[–]Funkimonkey 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Because RSD isn’t the end all be all.
If you can bounce them, then the initial pickup went just fine.
Something is off when you get to the lounge.
You need to calibrate - maybe you are too forward, maybe not enough. Get them more comfortable with you.
My guess is you’re tall, intimidating, and forward - all things that could make them very attracted to you, but also scared.
The nerd thing makes sense too if that is the case.
Get to know them better. Build more comfort. Sounds like you are running solid but too much attraction game.
I would scale back.
[–]koolxxxxx 7 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Maybe youre right... I dont know. I'll need to build more comfort like you said. Maybe thats the missing link in this equation.
But just to let you know, I've used comfort like asking girls where theyre from, finding these in common with them, sharing personal insights of mine with them also.
Let me know if this is the comfort youre talking about. If not, please let me know what I can do to tweak my comfort like, introducing other comfort tactics or whatever you feel is best for me. Also let me know what comfort tactics you personally use.
Looking forward to you response!
[–]Funkimonkey 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"asking girls where theyre from, finding these in common with them, sharing personal insights of mine with them also."
This isn't comfort. This is facts about a person. Comfort is relatability, understanding, emotional connection, trust. Women are balls of emotion. Men are balls of logic. That's why there is such a disconnect.
If the issue is being too intimidating, then you actually want a little less masculine in body language (sitting, giving more space, smiling more) and connect on more of a friend/comfort side. Think you're a bear (fear), but you want to be a teddy bear (comfort). Now, of course you maintain your strong frame - so you're not going down the friendzone, but think 80% attract/20% friend instead of 100% attract.
Edit: just saw your comment when they balk at escalation at your place - definitely a comfort issue then. Get to know them on a deeper level and scale back like I said.
[–]koolxxxxx 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey funkimonkey,
Would you please tell me what you do for comfort? Not just comfort but DEEP comfort? I'd greatly appreciate it.
Btw, I never saw Tyler not even once establish comfort with girls. He just guns them down with attraction and direct sexuality. This goes the same with other puas in RSD. Would you mind explaining this?
[–]Funkimonkey 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Will be tough to cover in full detail here. If they let me do an AMA, I can cover a lot more.
First off RSD and other famous PUAs are great marketers, not pickup artists. They do have some really good coaches, but that’s like 1/50 from what I’ve seen.
I’ve done 1000s of approaches and can tell you most in-field video is bullshit. And the good in field is from guys you’ve never heard of. Phone numbers? The ones they get are dead on the spot. Getting a phone number is EASY. Getting her to actually meet up is not.
Second, take a look at photos. Most coaches get lay counts not hot women. The coaches that get hot women are usually tall or good looking or both.
So that covers that.
Deep comfort is tough to establish, especially within the first few minutes. Easier to focus on “connectional comfort”.
This isn’t just a “commonality”. It’s a commonality than you both give a shit about.
Think about when you meet a guy and think “this guy is cool as shit. I want to be bros. Let’s go for a beer.”
With guys it’s easy. “Oh you’re a Kicks fan! Dude me too! How much do we suck? Haha”.
Instead of “Oh, we’re both engineering majors. That’s interesting I guess.”
So, with women you want to give them the same feeling: “wow this guy is cool”. Since you already are getting her to think “I kinda want to fuck this guy”.
To get connectional comfort, you just dig into different things about her - this also shows you care about her as a person and not just a notch/fuck - women are becoming more wary of hookups as bragging rights.
Second, you want to reduce her feeling of stranger danger. You need to give her more physical comfort with more space and less height/cowering presence.
Third, when trying to get her alone - always give her an easy way out to say no. Because she wants to say yes but not feel trapped.
Last, if you are alone with her and can’t seal the deal, you need to learn how to escalate properly (which is way beyond the scope of what I can type here lol).
[–]disciplinedFreedom 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Why not just approach American girls? They’re likely to stick around. Could become a future fwb or girlfriend. I don’t think they are any “harder” to get with and I’m not sure where you got that idea from. Also, numbers mean absolutely nothing. You get the number as a means to continue the interaction. Not to collect numbers
[–]koolxxxxx 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I understand and appreciate that suggestion. But heres the problem with it. Most anglo saxon american and americanized girls are too stuck up and materialistic. They possess a weird strange aire and attitude. Its like theyre corny an think its cool to be such. Theyre very sensitive and mostly go for corny, lame, weak american dudes for whatever reason. I see these weaklings and I'm like, something's wrong with this picture.
Btw, yes I know about getting numbers. I'm not there to collect them as trophies. So I know what youre saying.
Trust me, if these types of girls were different I wouldn't mind pursuing them.
[–][deleted] 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
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I've tried taking them home. Tried to escalate physically there. But unfortunately It doesnt work. That part of my game has mind-boggled me for a fuckin long period of time. I mean, theyre at my place. What else did these idiot bitches think we were going to do there? play tic tac toe??
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you thinking about sex?
Do you have an end goal in mind instead of being in the moment?
Are you reading her and creating situations?
Are you paying for everything?
Are you being genuine?
Do you NEED her?
The way you yelled and felt seemed like you might've been too attached to an outcome and felt disrespected (which is very understandable). Normally if you were confident you may make a joke like "uh huh suure you're leaving tomorrow"
It's difficult man and I feel your pain but it seems like you care too much and this used to be my problem.
RSD tactics are interesting and have merit but the most valuable thing you can get from them is
"Getting good at game isn't something you do, it's something you are" paraphrasing.
[–]koolxxxxx1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Hey winnerswin44,
Hey, here are my answers to your questions:
- I'm thinking more about getting her to know me better.
- The end goal is to take her home.
- What do you mean exactly?
- Yes.
- Kinda. I know it sounds needy. But I want to reach a point in my game where I have more choices to where I can answer this question with a 'no'.
Yes you are right I am attached to outcome which I know isnt the way to get good at game. I'm working on it.
Do you think I should pay $$$$ for 1 on 1 coaching with Tyler?
[–]bemore_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's because you're gaming them. It's because you're spending time, energy and money on them
Running game creates fundamental errors. For example, you're going to try to hook up with any decent woman that likes you, even though against your best judgment you really shouldn't and this same girl is the one that's going to flake on you and make you feel like you messed up somewhere. However when you go after the girls you really want, even if she tells you to get lost there and there you'll feel really good because you're going after what you want, not for ego or validation that you're attractive and have game.. but that you desire and want her. It's all subtle
It's the same fundamental problem with the mystery method - when you're gaming a girl you're going to go through a list of things you think you should do. Some dude online says "no man go to 'comfort' now ", your head was in 'attraction', like the mystery method. You gotta let it be simple, I understand, we're learning so we put in a lot of effort to get it right. You're close though, at least some women are already into you so you're doing the right things
But now the process is deductive, we're not doing more, we're doing less. Less game, less texting, less talking .. more fun
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What I have learned is dont dedicate time on them intentionally just mix it in your daily routines. It should happen just like that. I usually talk to girls during my 10 to 15 min commute in subway. And it works. Guage their response on initial convo. Mostly, getting number is nothing, everything starts when they respond and decides to meet next time. Here are some things you can try
Ask them to try a new food item you discovered? Ask them for a short walk with your dog, ask for help in borrowing a book in library.. choose or create your own questions based on her interests.
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