~ archived since 2018 ~
Popular
Other
[deleted]
[–]NaturalConnect 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And a man wearing his "non-neediness" like a crown for the world to see, expecting the girls to reward his evolved self, is still a needy man.
[–]anasshm 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Needseption
[–]Pringles__2 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Exactly.
Non-neediness must be authentic, like everything you say/do.
Should have said authenticity instead of non-neediness.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ok I absolutely agree that there shouldn't be neediness or manipulation. A confident man will go out and make his intentions clear without pressuring a woman he likes to act in a particular way.
But for him to be selfless all the time doesn't make sense to me. Relationships are two-way streets. Society expects men to make the first move, set up the date, be confident in his advancements... I get that. Why would I as a man pursue a girl, take her out to dinner, be open with her, kiss her, etc. if she doesn't reciprocate? I'm not pressuring her to reciprocate in terms of a kiss, sex, the next date, or even a relationship but why should I be the one chasing her the entire time? If I'm putting in the effort to make it known to her that I'm giving her my attention, then she needs to do the same for me too.
She needs to indicate and act accordingly to make it known that she wants to give me her attention and time and that she wants my company and my intimacy. So in that sense, when I'm serious about a girl I want to be with, there isn't entirely complete selflessness.
There are expectations of reciprocation. I'm not saying that a tally needs to kept of who does what, but there has to be enthusiasm on both sides. The man can't be doing all the work; I would walk away and move onto the next woman who's willing to show me that I'm also worth cherishing just as much as I will cherish her in my life.
[–]Pringles__ 5 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Of course. That's what I emphasized in my post.
I used the word non-neediness, but I should have talked about authenticity.
I also talked about escalation, but didn't mention calibration.
I personally will give unconditionally only if I want to. If a girl makes no effort and doesn't make me want to give her, I won't, simple as that.
The key is authenticity and non-neediness.
I caressed a girl's hair during a Netflix & Chill date for like 20 minutes. Although the girl enjoyed it, she made no effort to show any sign of interest and there was no emotional connection. So, I didn't keep giving her unconditionally, simple as that. I didn't kiss her and I didn't fuck her because she was just boring.
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Wtf you doing caressing a girl's hair for 20 fucking minutes? No wonder she didn't give you some ass, she probably thought you were too nervous and weak to make a move or just weird af
Always go for her thigh or neck if you wanna initiate something, go into a masculine frame, sweet talk her and make your move it should take you more than 3-5 minutes to do all that, if she doesn't want she'll stop you immediately
[–]Pringles__ 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
If I wanted her ass, I would have gone further. I didn't want anything with her.
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If that was the case then why you wasting your time watching Netflix and caressing her hair for 20 minutes, plus you said you didn't pursue further cause she wasn't reciprocating any interest, but whatever just don't be wasting your time with a chick you want nothing to do with
[–]Pringles__1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Don't mind the reason, she is a friend of mine not a total stranger. Just there was some sexual tension during the date, although I didn't want to go further.
[–]MO_drps_knwldg 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Great post
I would say that in a relationship, ideally both people have the same mindset otherwise it becomes unhealthy and unbalanced, but the idea of giving unconditionally without expectation is what makes a relationship thrive.
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What makes a relationships is fun and attraction, ideally you want her to be more invested into you not balanced, you're the masculine she's the feminine
All those simps give girls their attention, time and money unconditionally, whether or not you have expectations doesn't mean shit to her, she'll perceive it in her own way
[–]MO_drps_knwldg 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why do you consider attraction and fun exclusive from giving to the other person? You can have both. Attraction and fun are the foundation of the relationship. When you actually care about someone, that’s where giving to them comes into play. As I said, it can’t be one sided.
Your definition of giving with time and money is a needy definition and should be avoided, not what I meant at all.
Why would you even be in a relationship where it’s a constant power struggle where she needs to be more invested? That sounds contrived, insecure, and the opposite of fun.
You can both be invested and be balanced by having a purpose outside of the relationship.
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never said fun and attraction wasn't foundations, yeah she gives you but you reward her, if she's follow your lead, being feminine not being a headache etc, either than that if you give her cause she gave you then it's an exchange and not a relationship
You will be spending time and money to be with her dates etc
Who said it was a power struggle? If she's more into then there's less work for you it's just ideal, girls like that as well, you can still have fun and be the dominant one in the relationship, how is it insecure if you're focusing on yourself first lol
Ofc you each have your own lives, just for me if she doesn't add anything to my life why would I be in a relationship with her then
Why so complicated lol, you don't give your attention or time away for free, it's valuable, if you don't value your investment to her then you aren't a high value man, a high value man will not have time to waste in a girl who does not reciprocate
You let her know your intent but you don't give yourself away, you give her your time and attention if she has pursues you for it, this isn't a charity like those simps giving money, time and attention to women
And you don't expect her to give you something because you gave her something, you expect her to give you something cause you deserve and is entitled to it
[–]relentless_pma1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I think working towards becoming a person of non-needyness is very good. Including being honest and confident.
The post was a nice read. Maybe it is the subject but with some things it almost looks like it contradicts a bit. Like the part about 'think about yourself first' and not caring about yourself.
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.created by /u/dream-hunter
[–]NaturalConnect 15 points16 points17 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]anasshm 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Pringles__2 points [recovered] | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]Pringles__ [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Pringles__ [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Pringles__1 point [recovered] | Copy Link
[–]MO_drps_knwldg 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]MO_drps_knwldg 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ClickForHotNakedPics 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]relentless_pma1 point [recovered] | Copy Link