Question to the group:

Game is about talk talk talk. It's about coming up with good/interesting things to say to push her buttons, get her to qualify herself to you with a little bit of normal conversation thrown in. Dont need her, but your still around her pushing her buttons and seeing if she lives up to your standards. "I think I can take your number then...I guess".

Relationship/How-to-make-friends books will talk about listening, eye contact, being present, letting the other person talk about themselves more, asking questions. You can even take this into the tantra side of connection which (i suppose assumes you have a partner) focus on connection without words, breath, eyes..etc

What's the difference? Why is this advice so different?

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Brief Background that prompted the question:

I just got out of a bootcamp with Todd (formally from RSD). We did all kinds of qualification exercises, game the wall (walls don't talk back, and you have to spew content/convo), teasing each other and practicing comebacks..and more. I fail pretty hard at this. I have no wit to speak of, and more take the listener role in relation with others. I suppose that explains why I'm 35, been with few women. Something I'd drastically like to change.

Watching some of the quicker/better guys was awesome. I've seen them get rejected, and have success on the same night. They were doing/saying things I'd never dream of or even think of. I've seen them turn a women throwing shit-tests at them right and left into FWBs/Dates. Their ability to generate emotional content/spike her emotions was awesome to see, but now I feel bad about myself that I cant do that. What I can observe, is that they weren't afraid of asking people for numbers/dates/sex multiple times a night and I havn't asked anyone in like a year (with the exception of that week---all nos).

Thoughts?