I have a wing who is super logical and most of his game follows interview mode and I'm trying to get him out and away from it. Showing him my game isn't really working. Bantering works for me but it comes out natural and its not easy for him to understand by listening.

Like he needs some kind of bantering resource for dummies or something, or a few easy lines he can just try after opening direct or some kind of stack he can just take and run with to get a feel for it.