How do I escalate?

ricktherick · 2011-09-23T02:50:58+00:00

Kino

cody_au · 2011-09-23T05:16:35+00:00

I'm sure I could've pulled home but instead I got stuck in boring conversation and the vibe just died.

That's how it always feels.

It feels that way because you haven't done everything else necessary to escalate the interaction.

Because you're not escalating, you don't get the indicators you need that something isn't going to progress to the next phase, and so when you implement your any advice, my warning is that you'll probably (not necessarily, but probably) feel like you're going backwards, when you're really going forwards for the first time in ages.

e.g. You may be gaming 45 minutes by keeping things friendly and/or entertaining and imagining you're in stage 6 deep comfort, but they're not even really attracted to you and you never noticed because you didn't try to qualify them, move them out of earshot, sit them down, make out, telling personal stories, running future adventure projections, and having touching going back and forth.

When you don't escalate, you never get the roadblock, but actually you were just driving way off the path and getting nowhere ;-)

What do you do? Well, basically the stuff two paragraphs above. I also suggest taking a quick look into a seduction model like M3, and doing some searches. Everything goes in order. As a rough outline, she should be alone with you by 15 minutes and you should have kissed lightly. You should be hand-holding and/or stroking her hair by the 45 minute mark, give or take. There was actually an excellent "kino time chart" available at one stage published by Sinn (like, in a post somewhere, no idea which forum or where it is now), but it broke that side of it down really well.

vveksuvarna · 2011-09-23T05:35:26+00:00

Kino is right, but here's what i did tonight [FR] : HB7 was obviously flirting/ looking for attention after sitting next to me. Wingwoman tells me HB7 is ready.

I start talking to this new girl, ask questions, and make her laugh when I feel necessary.

Few mins in, I pretend as if we forgot about the whole intro routine and tell her my name, with right hand forward. She pledges hand forward and says her name. I pull her close and say she has to be louder, she tries, I say she has to be be louder than that. She yells out her name. Kino 1

We keep chatting, and I make her comfortable, and let wingwoman chat her up for 2 mins, before we start talking again. I question again, putting her in a spot, she answers, This time, I lay hand on her shoulder and tell her It's okay. (Comfortably placing the hand first, let's her imagine what's coming next, before she rejects the gesture and then the reassurance makes it work). Kino 2

I would have gone further, but through the conversation I was able to guess her age. Probably 40 atleast.

Not every night is the night. Set yourself to some standards, if the girls don't live up, you wyere just at the wrong spot.

Hope this helps.

rmbarnes · 2011-09-23T09:42:51+00:00

Read 60 Years of Challenge's Ebook collection. His whole method is basically based on escalation.

idomiralin · 2011-09-23T12:25:39+00:00

In order to seduce a woman, you must go trough 3 phases: 1.attraction 2.rapport 3.seduction I think your mistake was, that you have gone only trough rapport and I'm sure, that you didn't touch her enough or at all. And so you fell into the friend-zone. You have to avoid this and to learn how to do it, you can visit http://seduceandattract.blogspot.com/.

Title	How do I escalate?
Author	m0bmx
Upvotes	3
Comments	7
Date	September 23, 2011 1:31 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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