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Good question.... yeah, I think I'd be absolutely fine wih that. It'd be kinda cool actually.
/r/seduction22/08/12 09:05 AM
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That's good advice, thanks. I think I've got enough experience for it not to be weird, but only time will tell. I definitely don't want a love triangle situation. We have already established a friendship (got to know each other over the course of several days). Nothing sexual. I don't think I'm going to initiate sex with them... I just want to be prepared.
/r/seduction21/08/12 02:51 PM
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Dude... :D Okay, let me take your answer seriously for a moment. This is a clarification for all. The problem is not to build attraction. The problem is to keep it casual. I don't want to incite jealousy or hatred, we are going to have to spend 11 months together.
/r/seduction21/08/12 02:47 PM
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So did his energy bill.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:45 PM
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Exactly. Provide value, don't just take value.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:39 PM
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At least where I live, going alone to a party carries serious social stigma, it sucks really. Like, everyone would ask me who I'm here with. Sort of: "Hey, how's it going? Where are your friends?"
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:38 PM
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Look up 'conversation threading'.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:35 PM
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Besides, the nerves in your body work both ways. Happiness can trigger a smile, but a smile can also trigger happiness.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:26 PM
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Yes, smiling all the time can be interpreted as carelessness. Women want to know you care about them, and sometimes for this you will need to look at them earnestly, nodding... not smiling all the time.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:25 PM
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The concept of outcome independence has helped me a lot. I feel happier, as in, a "zen" like happiness.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:22 PM
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Relationship types in which I would be completely honest with the woman: friends with benefits marriage I think that not being completely honest with each other is sort of a given and even expected with same-night hook-ups and even dating (for the first weeks anyway). Basically, as long as the butterflies are buzzing in her belly. You don't want to kill them off with brutal honesty.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:15 PM
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Have you ever been thrown off track doing this? Like the one you're watching intensely staring at you or something?
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:10 PM
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That's one reason I don't like classic "date" situations (i.e. taking them out for dinner). It's like women have a script in their head on how everything should play out, and especially with insecure women you can't deviate much from it without her totally shutting down.
/r/seduction22/07/12 03:00 PM
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It's all about value. The value of only one deed fades quickly, whereas the value of a positive attitude towards life and having a high status among your peers is something that sticks around for a long time, and thus the girls will stick around for a long time.
/r/seduction22/07/12 02:56 PM
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Yes, you should never say something that you are not convinced of. However, I believe that "faking it" can be applied to inner game. Exaggerated confidence will only help you.
/r/seduction22/07/12 02:53 PM
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+1 for the "Hi, I'm..." It really is a go-to for me, as it requires practically no thinking for my part. Follow it up with anything. The more surprising, the better.
/r/seduction21/05/12 12:59 PM
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It's about distinguishing yourself from your competitors. Of course you shouldn't pass on opportunities to demonstrate value. But this is a fairly obvious thing to do and won't necessarily make you stand out from the crowd. If you only use DHV you have "fair game". The girl will consider you and then choose between you and many others. And believe me, if she's high value there will be many others. If you pass shit tests eloquently though, the game is rigged in your favor.
/r/seduction11/04/12 11:39 AM
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That's how I meant it.
/r/seduction11/04/12 11:25 AM
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Where do you draw the line between a PUA and someone practising and internalizing the Game? I'm very interested in sociology and understanding the relationships I have to the people around me, that's why I find his blog so interesting.
/r/seduction15/03/12 06:35 PM
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Why are you nervous? Because you are afraid of her judging you? Turn the situation around: She is the one who has to prove to you that she is worth your attention/admiration/... Don't be a dick about it, though.
/r/seduction15/03/12 05:48 PM
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That's interesting. I only started reading the blog 15 posts ago or so. I'll try to find out about the author (if there is one author anymore). What distinguished him IMHO from other PU blogs is that he is more of a pragmatic than an optimist. I also wonder whether he thinks that we have free will – he seems to think that there's a lot of stuff that we just can't change in our life. His view of long term relationships is quite pessimistic, and even polyamory (which I personally am intrigued by) …
/r/seduction15/03/12 05:22 PM
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If you sit at a table, you can rest your elbow on it and then support your chin with your hand. It's also nice for stroking your beard if you sport one. This can be your sort of "playful" pose. You can also try "steepling" – I read about it in the book "What every Body is saying (which I recommend if you are interested in body language). This pose expresses confidence. You can find images of it on the web. A subtler alternative to this is to cross your hands like you're praying, only a bit more …
/r/seduction14/03/12 02:45 PM
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The tip that's been floating around here for a while (and it's supposed to work wonders!) is to text her something like: "I haven't heard from you yet so I decided to make some other plans. I'll make it up to you another time." This obviously only works when you've made a proposal for a meet-up before.
/r/seduction27/02/12 09:26 PM
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You might well be on to something.
/r/seduction25/02/12 03:04 PM
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How does this comply with outcome independence?
/r/seduction25/02/12 01:55 PM
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I'm not sure, I think it might be a better transition if you "allude" to it and not say it openly ("Look guys, I've changed!"). People don't like change, that's just natural, and I also think it's kind of patronizing, i.e. you act like they wouldn't be able to figure out themselves that you are a better person now.
/r/seduction25/02/12 01:05 PM
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Yeah, well, we wouldn't have a plot otherwise, would we?
/r/seduction15/01/12 04:38 AM
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Actually, I quite liked this video clip from Hitch that was posted here some time ago. It explains Hitch's move in a tutorial kind of way.
/r/seduction14/01/12 10:45 PM
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No mind-blowing revelations, really. What I got from it: Don't be a creep (basically all your classic "friend zone" entrances) Build rapport Social game: Facebook is a social network, so it's a good way to build your social game You can pretty much translate what you would do in person to what you would do online, as long as you try to anticipate their reaction based on your previous "real life" experiences.
/r/seduction12/01/12 05:29 PM
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True, just think of it, Dale Carnegie's book How to win friends and influence people is ridiculously popular. And it's all about manipulating people.
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:47 PM
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Good job on getting those phone numbers, you seem to have it down and can do it in a smooth way. It's probably important to not show any signs of hesitation or insecurity when asking for the number, right?
/r/seduction07/01/12 09:42 PM
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Thank you, I'm dumbstruck as I realize that all the time I've seen someone "read hands" it was just a means to make him/her seem more interesting. Sounds like a natural progression, well done. What about the AMOGING some guy away part, though?
/r/seduction04/01/12 09:03 PM
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Personally, I have had a very good FWB relationship with a girl who was already in a relationship. She told me that when I told her I didn't if she had a boyfriend (the approach was pretty caveman like) she cheered up inside. Turns out she sees her boyfriend so little it's practically a long distance relationship and he's pretty boring. Unfortunately I only have this one example, but I heard someone here say (might well have been you) that many girls in a relationship are on the lookout for a "n…
/r/seduction04/01/12 05:43 PM
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reading her hand, arm around her shoulder, light kino, beating her in little games Would you mind sharing, like, your top five things in your toolkit, like reading her hand? How do you do that? And what games? Thumb-wrestling? Regarding AMOGing another guy away from your target: How do you do it? I usually start with giving him my hand, introducing my self, asking how they know each other. How do you proceed?
/r/seduction04/01/12 05:25 PM
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Listen to this man.
/r/seduction04/01/12 04:44 PM
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I Immediately tell her that this is just a one night stand Did you tell her exactly that? You must have some balls... I would've been too scared she blows the whole thing off when I get that direct. Mutual knowledge: "With overt language, you can't take it back. With innuendos, you can maintain the fiction of a friendship (because you don't know what the other is really thinking)." What do you think of that?
/r/seduction31/12/11 06:33 PM
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Thanks for correcting me, I did some research and found this excerpt from here: If a man meets a woman while in a dangerous situation, such as on a trembling bridge, he’s more likely to fall in love with her than if they meet in a more mundane setting, such as an office.
/r/seduction27/12/11 05:32 PM
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"Event style" dates work very well. There was a study once that even proved that women are more likely to feel attracted to you when they had met on a dangling bridge spanning a wild river.
/r/seduction27/12/11 02:31 PM
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Exactly. People here are saying "Don't use alcohol as a crutch", why should it be different with marijuana?
/r/seduction26/12/11 02:09 PM
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Heh, I read OP's post with a Scottish accent in my head.
/r/seduction25/12/11 06:03 PM
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Thanks for sharing this, frogma. I especially like the though that being with many women is a means to gauge your own character.
/r/seduction12/12/11 08:45 PM
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Thanks for linking this. Basically those tips are about how the human mind works, so it definitely has a place in seddit.
/r/seduction05/12/11 02:23 PM
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I'm not sure, I will do it situationally, but my self-respect tells me not to give her a compliment outright.
/r/seduction03/12/11 06:47 PM
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Yeah, I suggested it more for displaying some body language yourself (it doesn't come very natural to me).
/r/seduction02/12/11 07:47 PM
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Yeah, I would only do it when I'm chillin' with some music on. It's fun to try and figure out what is going on though, or, if you know the movie, if there is some noverbal behaviour that hints at what is going to get happen (if the actors are good).
/r/seduction02/12/11 07:44 PM
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Well, I figured, if you try to pay attention to your body language in your game, you might as well learn from actors, because what you do will be acting in some way. Also, I seldomly just watch people for the sake of watching them, I do most of the "learning" at home and when I'm out, I just do stuff.
/r/seduction02/12/11 07:35 PM
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Hint: Do not try this at home.
/r/seduction01/12/11 06:43 PM
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Take this advice, lingual_panda is a girl that means well for our community.
/r/seduction01/12/11 06:35 PM
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This is good, but please don't start to look for this behaviour in every woman you meet. You're the one who is interested in her and, hell, you will flirt with her. This list is quite accurate and handy, but if you go out in the field and talk to everyone, you will figure this out pretty quick anyway, plus you get experience.
/r/seduction01/12/11 06:08 PM
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Well, this guy has his shit together. His text was unstructured as hell, but apart from a few WTF moments, he was basically saying what all the handy one-liners in /r/seduction like "Be outcome independent", "Don't give a fuck", "Assume attraction" say. He's either a natural who reflected on his dating behaviour or someone who his already past his schoolbook pick-up behavior because he has calibrated. Like the thing about buying girls drinks. It's a "simple" way to demonstrate value if you refus…
/r/seduction29/11/11 08:42 PM
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I would tease her a bit when you run into her again. Be dominant and outcome independent, it's her turn to deliver. Being beta friendly would bust what is left of your frame and ignoring her or even playing it cool wouldn't be "plausible", she wouldn't buy it after you added her on Facebook just the day after.
/r/seduction29/11/11 08:07 PM
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Yeah, I will have to calibrate. Having a "not giving a fuck" all the time attitude makes it way too simple for oneself, it's not the right thing to do. Also, you won't pass shit tests with such an attitude, happened to me myself. You need to be coherent, otherwise it weirds them out.
/r/seduction28/11/11 03:23 PM
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Okay
/r/seduction27/11/11 11:15 PM
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Merge groups at bars and clubs, especially mixed ones. I wish I would be good at that. To me, merging groups of people at bars compares to manoeuvering a freighter ship. Do I have to know much about the people in order to pull this off?
/r/seduction27/11/11 10:12 PM
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What are these, song lyrics?
/r/seduction27/11/11 10:07 PM
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I read your comment five times wondering how a beer could possibly thumb your ass, I thought it was some absurd figure of speech :D I agree about the mask thing, but I als sometimes wish that my "core identity" would be better defined, I tend to adapt my masks too well in situations so that it disturbs people when I don't show the behaviour they are used to.
/r/seduction27/11/11 11:15 AM
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I know what you mean. My family wouldn't recognize me when I'm out socializing with other people, it is really, really hard to break out from a certain role that other associate with you. I love it when there's a "fresh" set of people that are not biased towards me whatsoever.
/r/seduction27/11/11 11:10 AM
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On the other hand, there are so many adults (and I mean that in the "Oh, I feel so adult" way) that are just suppressing the notion that they can do whatever the hell they want in life because that's what they've been taught their whole life by those same adults. Most sucessful people lead their own lives and don't have others lead them. Only a small percentage of people cares little enough about being "sensible" so they do not restrict themselves in any way. If you always do what you think is e…
/r/seduction26/11/11 01:30 PM
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Those are awesome suggestions! There is so much potential going wasted in this world just because people are wondering if something would be socially awkward. Made me think of that cartoon with the two guys sitting in toilet stalls next to each other where neither of them wants to pee because then the other one would hear it.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:19 AM
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Well, I find that if you are in social environments with lots of people you know, the better approach is to read body language than just bluntly assuming attraction for the reasons I pointed out above. My goal is to make people feel comfortable.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:13 AM
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Wow, you really figured it out, I would love to see more posts from you like this. It's like you translated the theory into really simple instructions, I totally feel like this could work, I'll try it the next time I go out alone.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:07 AM
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Sorry, can't give you any advice here, my real world logic fails to compute.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:03 AM
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This may apply in a situation where you are in doubt whether you should approach that one girl or not, but if there are several girls around, it's so much better for you if you read their body language to see who shows the most interest in you. Social cues are mostly unconscious, so they convey the true intention of a person. Hitting on someone who shows signs of objection will just make it much harder for you. Unless of course, you just want to practice your game. Rejection shouldn't mean a fuc…
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:02 AM
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I'm fairly new to this community, but one way would be to use a mutual interest as a reason. Like, if you like a certain style of music and you know a local band, you would tell him: "That reminds me, I know XY, I'll give you a call when they are in town. Do I have your number?" You can use any occasion, but make sure you have plausible deniability if you want to be FWB. It also works the other way round, if he is knowledgeable in an area you are not, you can ask him if you can ask him for advic…
/r/seduction25/11/11 11:52 PM
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Wow, thanks for reading seddit. That's all.
/r/seduction25/11/11 11:46 PM
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You'll be known as The Fish Guy over time.
/r/seduction25/11/11 11:45 PM
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Basically, if you wouldn't take what she says from a dude and you would be all like "WTF, man?", don't take it from a girl.
/r/seduction24/11/11 11:31 PM
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It's great to see more women around here now, the community can only profit from that, so thank you for your input :) Everyone wins if both sides know the "rules" of the game.
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:17 PM
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Do you know that guy that everyone is excited about seeing when he comes around to hang out, because he just guarantees that everyone is having a good time? Do you know that guy that everyone turns to when there is an unsettled debate? I bet there is a value giver in your social circle, and you just haven't really noticed that before. What stops you from becoming that guy?
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:14 PM
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The author actually suggests something like that in the comments to his posts, but he says he only does this in order to avoid formality when the woman gestures to shake your hand. When a woman gives you her hand it creates distance, in my opinion. She wants to treat you like a business partner or a loose acquaintance. So the author says you can break the "rules" when you deem it necessary.
/r/seduction21/11/11 02:03 PM
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Those tips are pure gold, I think I might like this guy's method.
/r/seduction21/11/11 12:16 PM
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Barney? Is this you?
/r/seduction06/11/11 10:38 PM
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He pivoted his head and directed his gaze towards her. She held it, and after a moment gave a flirty smile. This puzzled our young hero, but he wasn't going to be distracted or slowed. He had some mother fucking chicken to buy. His flip flops smacked the tile with a defying cadence, his arms swung freely at his sides. Your field report is full of awesome. Made me feel like I was right there inside your head. Write a book and I will buy ten of them to give them to my miserable AFC friends.
/r/seduction23/10/11 10:39 PM
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I agree, I wouldn't have thought I would read the entire FR. There's definitely a place here for these kinds of reports, it had me thinking of my own experiences. The question remains if it was a demonstration of high value to be so aggressive with that last girl on the dancefloor. I made out heavily with a girl once, in front of everyone, but I've been mocked for it by my friends the next day. Ever since then my tendency is to go to a less exposed location with the girl for anything more than d…
/r/seduction23/10/11 10:13 PM
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Let me put it like this: If you're doing pick-up right and you're talking to a girl, sooner or later she will be thinking about having sex with you. It's easier if you can relate to that feeling, you game will become more natural. I lost my virginity to a girl I picked up in a bar. I haven't been into the PUA stuff at that time, though. She was just craving me for whatever reason. As soon as we entered her bed she took the lead, and I enjoyed it a lot. She even said the fact that I was a virgin …
/r/seduction23/10/11 10:01 PM
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A rare insight. I admit I've often passed on those kinds of girls because the investment didn't seem like it was worth it. When it was for quick sex, anyways. I haven't been in a long relationship yet, but I can imagine that it would be less boring with a "sharp" girl. Don’t hold back on emotional joy because you want an easy escape route. That’s just pathetic. This is your ego telling you to protect the fragile girl, when all you’re doing is avoiding your own pain. You can still be badass and b…
/r/seduction23/10/11 09:54 PM
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That’s the cycle of cognitive dissonance, a painful confusion about who you are gets resolved by seeing the world in a more satisfying way. As Festinger said, you make “your view of the world fit with how you feel or what you’ve done.” When you feel anxiety over your actions, you will seek to lower the anxiety by creating a fantasy world in which your anxiety can’t exist, and then you come to believe the fantasy is reality just as Benjamin Franklin’s rival did. He couldn’t possibly have lent a r…
/r/seduction19/10/11 08:27 PM
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Just yesterday I got a girl's number, and I thought I had forgot to save it. It's definitely the guardian angels ;) It felt good in its own way to know I could easily get that girl's number and the outcome didn't even matter. Turned out later that I did save the number, only mistyped the name. But it taught me not to get too attached and chode.
/r/seduction15/10/11 12:55 PM
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All respecting her privacy, of course.
/r/seduction14/10/11 12:28 PM
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Well no, I have come very close to having to do that several times, but fortunately I never had to do that. It's very difficult to do this and not break a girl's feelings at the same time.
/r/seduction30/09/11 11:42 PM
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When you don't escalate, you never get the roadblock, but actually you were just driving way off the path and getting nowhere. That's an excellent metaphor, sir!
/r/seduction23/09/11 02:45 PM
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Reggae makes me feel good. Inner Circle style. EDIT: I'll be damned, I totally forgot. That Inner Circle, Games People Play? I mean, what else is gonna get you into the mood?
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:33 PM
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Just ignore her. But if you happen to run into her, still show her how awesome you are, but with other people. Like have an engaging conversation with someone standing next to her. Disclaimer: I'm not a PUA :P
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:31 PM
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Maybe your game has become your truth...
/r/seduction22/09/11 09:43 AM
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I don't know how I figured that out, but I had problems with blushing in the past. I can now kind of control it through "breathing". You know how the blushing seems to comes from your chest and then kind of spreads on your cheeks? Well, pay attention when that happens. When it happens, you can try to breathe in and at the same time imagine you suck all the blush back into your stomach, along with the air. "Feel" the blush being sucked out of your cheeks into your stomach. This sound weird, but i…
/r/seduction21/09/11 10:20 PM
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One of the greatest fear of the man and still it hasn't been researched and used for fighting back yet...
/r/seduction21/09/11 10:01 PM
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thanks for taking the time, that's some plain advice to follow, have an upvote :)
/r/seduction21/09/11 08:11 PM
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I would say it's rather the norm that random street encounters do not turn into casual sex ;)
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:37 AM
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It's okay if those interactions don't immediately turn into casual sex. Nice understatement
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:29 PM
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Yep, never miss an opportunity. It's just like evolution, you're not gonna improve if you don't accept some random mutations.
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:27 PM
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Now I don't feel so bad about it anymore, thanks :)
/r/seduction19/09/11 10:22 AM
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Haha, awesome advice, man! Seddit, providing guidance on all aspects of live since 1944.
/r/seduction19/09/11 10:21 AM
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It's not easy... it's not just the girl's personal opinion that matters ("Do I really want to have a relationship with this young fella?"), I found that it's often what the girl's friend think of her when she's in a relationship with someone who is "significantly" younger (though I don't think the difference is that much personally). When the girls are older (27 or so) I found that sometimes they feel kind of "honoured" if a younger boy is interested in them. Maybe seddit has some tips on what i…
/r/seduction18/09/11 10:02 AM
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