How I solved my main sticking point and other problems with my approaches

Hi,

I started as a hardcase newbie and I have been gaming (daygame) for about a year. I resolved my biggest sticking points: overthinking and negativity. How? Through meditation (morning and before sleep) and the positivity challenge. But I have more issues holding me back.

Sometimes, everything goes well, the girl is receptive, I am smiling, I feel good inside of my head. I feel man to woman, words are flowing out of my mouth even though I am NOT "state", I just feel like a normal, happy, human being.

But I have noticed something about my approaches. My bad approaches can grouped into 2 different kinds.

A) I open the girl, but it feels creepy. How do I feel the creepiness? I don't feel the EMOTIONS behind my open. Even though I am direct in the way I convey interest, the tone of my voice is lifeless, my facial expressions are creepy, I feel something is off inside of me... She feels it too. According to my wingman: "Your face is creepy, your voice has no life" Sometimes this happens during my first approach and it gets better after. Other times, almost ALL of my approaches are like this; I can't get out of the negative loop.

B) I open the girl, I kind of feel man to woman and happy; my eye contact is on point. She stops and smiles; she understands my intent. As I am creating rapport, I get the feeling that the girl is not contributing to the conversation, I cannot HOOK her. Obviously, after a while, because of this feeling and her single word answers, it is hard to continue the conversation (I run out of words) so I just stop talking and look at her smiling, and she says she has to leave.

[–]injesterstrust 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting stuff. I can very much relate with BOTH of you A and B observations.

With 'B' though, I don't think there's anything you can do about it. I know we all like to believe that 'game' is some sort of jedi mind black magic where we can make everyone want to bang us, but that's just not how it works in practice. If she's just giving you one words answers and clearly actively trying not to really participate and you can tell her body language is a little bit 'off' etc, then it just means that she's not into you/you're not her type. It's out of your control. And as you say, it's super hard to carry a conversation entirely by yourself. It's a 2 way street!

With 'A', I think it's just a by product of being 'in your head' too much and being nervous and basically not feeling worthy. Sometimes I can 'snap' out of this by concentrating on only ONE thing (self amusement/Fun) and ignoring all the rest of the theory (the lines, the negs, the disqualification, the cold reads, the stories etc etc). I might still get rejection, but i'm more likely to feel 'on' at some point in the night if i've burnt a few sets down in a fun way

Title	How I solved my main sticking point and other problems with my approaches
Author	Minato1997
Upvotes	3
Comments	1
Date	January 9, 2019 4:58 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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