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[–]Coffeeupthebutt 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Socialize with everyone. Man and woman. Dance and smile. Be someone who has fun to give not someone who seems boring sitting alone.
Your not going to get approached you are the man. The man leads. It’s both male and female DNA and social conditioning for the man to lead and it works 99.9% of the time all the time.
[–]i_need_help_bro[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
when i was on dance floor i casually did say 'hi' to a girl and i told her 'stay beautiful' and left her alone, she was like 'what?' i dont think she understood what i said cause of my accent but whatever
[–]Coffeeupthebutt 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok so you know what your doing wrong.
You want someone to tell you that you don’t need to change. But you do.
Read up on masculinity. The culture is pushing men to be feminine. Masculinity is not bad. Masculinity is good. Being selfish is ok. You are ok.
You need to learn how to communicate your feelings to another human without your insecurities making your brain glitch.
Some books i found very helpful: Models No More Mr. Nice Guy
Podcast: Real Social Dynamics (RSD) (the later podcast of the last couple of years)
-No the guys aren’t perfect but the general attitude they have is right about embracing your masculinity and being a person that brings fun to the interaction.-
Good luck on your journey.
[–]i_need_help_bro[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i think that was my first time saying 'hi' to a girl in a long time
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i told her 'stay beautiful'
If you're at a steak place do you expect a waiter to come out with a menu of vegetarian selections?
So why would you talk to a girl to open her, in a place with loud music, that's organized around the fun of dancing?
It's an interruption of the fun. You're putting upon a stranger to strain to listen to you, before they know you well enough to care to put the effort into it.
You are going to open people more easily with non-verbal things like eye contact and facial expressions.
And again, if you don't like dancing for its own sake, then don't go to a club. Or if you must, find a mixed group of male and female friends to go with.
[–]trail22 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe clubs arent your thing. meetups are way easier to socialize in.
[–]DarkArtsPUA114 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
this is basically what i do when i go to clubs. stand around with my wing while holding a water or beer. and just watching people dance while bobbing my head slightly to the music
you shouldn't feel down on yourself. this is what 90% of guys do when they go to clubs, even i do this. but i still get laid. why? because i prefer online and daygame. i hate going to clubs. clubs are horseshit. the loud music, the random crowded people bumping into me, the preppy looking douche bags, the bartenders and bouncers being obnoxious, etc. i can't stand it all. which is why i don't go to clubs, and why you shouldn't. you can get plenty of ass and titties outside of clubs. you don't NEED clubs to get women, they fucking suck
[–]RealPimp86 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
BE CONFIDENT. Im sure any girl would be more than happy to dance with you. Learn to let yourself go, be loose.
[–]i_need_help_bro[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
fuck man im never relaxed
[–]RealPimp86 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Im not telling you to do this but for me some tequilas and margaritas loosen me up.
[–]i_need_help_bro[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
ok cause im so bad about knowing which drink to order or what they didn't/dont have a menu it's fast-paced environment
so i asked for water but will try ordering margaritas
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[–]i_need_help_bro[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
ok cause my thought process sucks i think
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[–]i_need_help_bro[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
are margaritas expensive?
[–]RealPimp86 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
god damn hella 15 dollars for one glass.
will try ordering margaritas
If you're going to dance, I recommend a long-necked bottle of beer. Easier to keep from spilling. Cocktail glasses are going to be spilled in short order if you head to the dance floor.
And just being real here, if you're at the dance club, you should be doing something to integrate to the fun there. If you're arriving there alone, then you should be starting off at the dance floor.
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[–]ALargePianist 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I feel that. I've been out dancing solo before plenty of times, but without a group of people, my failures turn me into the security guard OP was talking about so I just leave. Or I latch on to some aquantince I met from the last go around and bug the fuck out of them.
[–]PinkPlanets 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was actually like that at the beginning. What time you become comfortable in the night clubs. now the night clubs for me are like my second home.
Keep exposing yourself to this environment eventually you will become comfortable. I and starting to get a lot of results thanks to this process. Trust the process. Good luck my friend
i think im more comfortable having a friend or wingman around but ya
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I can't do it
Take a deep breath. Seriously.
Did you?
Okay, now look at this objectively. You're saying that:
You tried.
You found out that you lack the ability to do it. It being socialize, meet your dating goals, seduce, whatever.
Let's look at your first contention, that you tried. This means you went to a place and tried to connect with people, socialize, etc.
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.....I spent like 4 or 5 hours standing alone by myself on the dance floor drinking glass water in between while watching people having fun and dancing.
So already, your actions don't match this idea that you "tried."
If I signed up for a race and then sat at the finish line with a number pinned to my back, would that qualify as trying?
Because that's kind of what you did.
Going to a club or venue with a dance floor and standing alone, drinking water, is not trying. We're talking about a club here, which consists of:
Dancing.
Socializing; at a club, mostly non-verbally to start off with. Facial expressions, eye contact, gestures, and other movements.
Drinking.
You just went to a place made for dancing, and didn't dance, stood by yourself, and didn't even drink. (Drinking is not required though.)
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i haven't been able to dance with a girl however I liked the place a lot though it's better than any other in my city it gets pretty crowded and loud but yeah.
Here's the thing: if you go into a club, putting all this pressure on yourself, with the focus on this goal of "getting the girl," then you're not going to get the girl. Because then you're approaching the whole crowd from a place of want. Like you're not having fun unless you get THEM to do a, b, and c.
If you find a way to have fun even if a girl isn't in the picture, then you'll be able to enjoy yourself and enhance other people's fun. Then they'll start coming to you. They'll at least be more open to interacting with you when you're taking care of yourself.
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I also saw this chick who was pretty much dancing with anybody and this dude was basically kissing her all over her neck and touching her legs like what.
You've got your eyes in the wrong place. You're looking at results, and not all the little subtle parts of that interaction that preceded the kissing and touching.
No one really just walks up to a girl and opens like that. There's at least some non-verbal stuff that comes before. Some sort of communication through facial expressions. Maybe a little touch to get someone's attention. Etc.
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But anyway I was basically acting like a security guard i just couldn't talk to anyone at all and you know, that's how as real as it gets and honestly, the main issue for all this is because of my hearing damage and if people lean to my ear i can't understand much.
No one hears shit in a club. Verbal conversation isn't the point anyway. You're being FORCED to rely on non-verbal communication. Body language. Facial expressions, eye contact, etc. Stuff that's most of what we communicate with anyway.
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The issue here is, you need to go to a place that's fun for you. If you don't like dancing, don't go to a club. Not if you're a newb at game. All you'll do is make yourself stand out like a sore thumb.
I'll assume for the moment that you must like dancing though, since you chose a club to go to. So just go dance. Have a beer and nurse it. Don't like the taste? Great. It'll be easier to nurse it for a long time.
The point is, when in Rome do as the Romans do. Or find a place you like to be.
[–]SlideItGoyim -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is literally nothing wrong with consuming Soy.
[–]frost0r 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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