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[–]mossbrooke 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like your fixating on certain people, when you might be better off taking the stress off yourself, and just chatting with people you meet. It's kind of a numbers game. Most of us get rejected a dozen, or 8, before finding a spark. Just learn to small talk to people. In line is a good place to practice because it's short, and you learn how to deal with awkward pauses, and gracefully ending a chat and still hang around. Plus, if it goes south, it's a line. Eventually it ends. YouTube some relationship coaches that emphasize basic interaction. Relax... Have fun... Relaxed people are easy to hang out with. Tense people with obvious expectations, aren't.
[–]throwaway5734748 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree with you. I have this thing where a lot of the girls I meet im just not into. Then i find that "one special girl" and fixate and plan. Then when it blows up in my face I start blaming myself..
And great advice. Ive actually been doing this a lot. I have no problem talking to girls. Ive actually had a few girls ask me out recently, just not ones who I am interested in. Seems as if everytime im interested in a girl, it blows up in my face. I probably should work on spontaneity....
[–]mossbrooke 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Huh. Pay attention to see if you're subconsciously picking ones that are unavailable in some way. Purposeful rejection is a defense mechanism.
[–]throwaway5734748 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hadn't thought of this. Thanks
[–]BensonInFL 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I asked out another girl who I had been talking to for months
I wasn't able to ask her out sophomore year so I waited until junior year.
I think your biggest problem is waiting an extremely long time before asking a girl out... the girl put you in the friend zone a LONG time ago.... I remember when I was in college, and knew nothing about PUA or any community, just naturally, the DAY I started talking to the girl, at the end of the conversation, I got her number... then the phone game started to get to know her a bit better and then get the courage to ask her out for a date..... You need to talk.... flirt... get feedback to see if there is any interest.. and ask for the digits... text..flirt.. setup a date... keep escalating... it should take a few days.. not years..
Second biggest problem is you are focusing on your looks... when you should be focusing on your behavior.... that is your sticking point... what are you talking about with these girls for 2yrs before asking them out???
Third... and this might be a huge revelation for you... a lot of times when a girl doesn't respond to a DM, or some other nonsense... we always think it is about us... but most of the time.. it is about them... they are busy.. or in the middle of a fight with their bf.. or some other distraction... you are not their focus... yet... you should not feel entitled to get a response... don't worry about it... don't get discouraged...I have had huge success with just ignoring it... and sending another note a day or week later.. pretending like it never happened.. or if it happens too many times in a row.. calling them out on it... such as 'Hey haven't heard back from you in a while, is everything okay?' ... if there is more than 0% interest in you... then you will get a response... if not move on.. don't sweat it...
-B
[–]throwaway5734748 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Really great advice. Thank you. All three things are spot on. I think ive been clouded and had a hard time seeing all of this, but reading your response its pretty clear. I definitely have the tendency to wait for fear of messing up. As far as what i had been talking about with the girl for months, just random stuff. We took the train together and sat next to each other a few times a week and made small talk. I got her number the day I met her and made a move. Didn't work so i just chatted with her for several more months before trying again. Definitely not the right approach. And you are right, I shouldn't freak out because she didn't respond. Theres a million reasons why she may not have answered.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Hey, first of all good job on your health journey and putting in all that work, it can’t be easy! It seems like your motivation/mindset is a little skewed. If you weight and body image is tied to your self worth that’s a problem. If you need someone to accept you based off your appearance as well as those other socio economic factors you mentioned above, that can also get you into trouble. I think it’d be reasonable to say those two aspects compound each other and are also very similar.
Now, in terms of your dating “strategies” the first girl from high school: it didn’t seem like there was much meaningful interaction before/during or even after your decided to ask her out. Attractiveness is a mix of subjectivity and social standards so it’s tricky; that being said rejection and anger are normal and you did channel it into something good but it doesn’t really seem... resolved.
A similar situation happened with this second girl, you saw her, probably built this ideal in your head and then there was again a lack of meaningful interaction and then seemingly, rejection again.
Maybe it wasn’t even love or genuine interest but until you’re intentions and mindset are adjusted I don’t think you’ll find success.
I know I typed a lot sorry, let me know if anything doesn’t make sense 😅
[–]throwaway5734748 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the reply! And yes, it makes sense. And yes, I unfortunately didn't have great interaction with either of the two. The one in hs was totally my fault. I was shy in awkward. The one in college was just unfortunate that I never had the chance to see her in person.
I think part of my problem is I feel like because of all of the hard work ive put in, these girls should/will give me a chance. And then when they don't, I beat myself up for it. Definitely not the right way of thinking..
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You recognizing your ‘faults’ tells me you’re in the right direction, so good job! haha But, Is warn you that those feelings of entitlement can turn into something harmful for yourself and others.
Shy and awkward can be attractive too right? Lol
[–]throwaway5734748 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are right. Tbh while im not that shy and awkward, i definitely fly under the radar. I apologise if my op came across as entitled at all. Definitely not my intent, nor my normal way of thinking. I think this situation is forcing me to make up excuses for the outcome.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah okay, I see. Well, there ya go. You just answered your own question haha 😌
[–]Insaneflirt_max 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tldr
[–][deleted] 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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Yeah. I couldn't with this girl because she went abroad, but lesson learned for the future
[–]quinnmcd[M] [score hidden] 6 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]mr_Tobbor 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Pedestalization! Don't be pussy. Go speak to her then next her.
[–]throwaway5734748 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry, didn't get that last part. Your saying I SHOULD talk to her if i run into her? Or let it go?
[–]mr_Tobbor -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don't pedestalize then you can leave her (next her) if she is non responsive. That means that you have to approach her so you can know if she is responsive to you approach.
I think you have pedestalized her! You have to embrace "abudence" mentallity!
[–]c0c41n33 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dms are not the way to do it, that’s your problem
Didn't want to, but my school just got shut down because of the virus and i was not willing to wait like 5 more months until next semester to continue pursuing this
[–]c0c41n33 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just let it go, ask out some different girls
[–]Ligottis_Unborn 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Try getting over focusing on one girl. Over time you realize that whatever feelings you had for one girl go away and get projected onto another girl. The individual girl doesn't matter. She is easily replaceable and forgettable but you need to experience this to really know what I'm talking about. With enough of these experiences, you will eventually not care for any particular girl that much.
Thank you for the advice
[–]rextokyo -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you're in shape you definitely want to be posting shirtless selfies. Post those on tinder. Make your profile "6'4" .
You're probably too nice, to boil it down. Get some edge. Buy a motorcycle.
And dont fixate on any one girl in particular..you've been drooling over this hole for two years at the expense of not gaming other girls. Lifes too short my man
Im in shape with shirt on. Having lost a bit of weight fairly quickly, I am a little bit flabby, despite having a 4 pack and noticeable arm veins. Definitely not into shirtless pics.
You're right though, I shouldn't be fixated on any one girl. For whatever reason, I just find that im not attracted to or compatible with a lot of girls. Even though I'm of legal age, ive never once had a sip of alcohol in my life. Just not into it. I think the reason i get fixated is because i find these decent looking girls who supposedly dont drink and think they are one of a kind.
[–]rextokyo 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No man. AWALT. Google it. The girls you think are one of a kind are like any other.
Who cares if you are in to shirtless selfies. Girls are in to shirtless selfies. (If you believe a woman when she says she isnt you have a lot to learn). If you look good flaunt it.
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