I have lost my fear for touch a long time ago and recently brought much more kino into my dates. However I only used harmless moves, like touching the shoulds, arms or the lower back. I definately do not grab.

However my experience has been quite disillusional. I know from at least 2 dates that my KINO was too much for them and turned them away. I didnt get a second date of course. Also I heard from some female friends of mine that my KINO seemed too much over the top and inappropriate. I must underline that all touching was kept harmless again. I also am a very pyhsical and outgoing guy towards men. So its not as if I would only touch the women around.

Now these negative experiences stand in contrast to the teachings I read and see online. KINO is allways emphasized as beeing important and that it should be used frequently and often. It seems to me though that I chased away girls I would otherwise had safe.

I really want to know your opinions on that matter.

Best regards