[Need help] Struggling with natural game

recyclablebanthas · 2017-12-15T00:55:43+00:00

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I tend to fuck up many sets either by overescalating, or going into friendzone. I get makeouts, but with 7 and max 8(in a good night).

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. What exactly are you chasing here?

You're either attracted or you aren't. If you weren't attracted, then you shouldn't have been making out with them.

But the fact remains that you were already good enough at navigating this process, that you were making out with girls and you had female friends.

This means you already had the pieces and skills necessary to get what you want!

You said yourself, you keep cutting yourself off because you're picky about getting some perfect girl.

This is not an issue with your outer game.

That's a mindset issue. And trying different outer game won't fix it.

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So now im starting to get into canned game.... i went overboard, lost all of my female friends.....

And now you've gone way overboard here. If you've lost your female friends, then you've thrown some of your best skills into the garbage.

And for what? Pursuit of some mythical girl? Some mythical "10?"

The social skills you used to get those female friends? That's comfort building.
The skills you had to get to make outs with those so-called 7s and 8s? That's physical escalation and the rest of what you need.

The fact that you are STILL constantly changing your approach despite the fact that it was working, indicates that you are really in danger of going off the rails here, and need to back the train up.

BaconMeTimbers · 2017-12-15T05:00:40+00:00

Forget about makeouts, only your ego will tell you that's important. Forget about trying to bang tons of hot girls, you can't even bang one girl currently. Forget about same day lays and all that other stuff, at least for now.

Here's the simplest path to get laid: open girls » get girls number » get date with girl » get laid

It's how most people get laid in western culture, even to those oblivious of seduction techniques, so it shouldn't be too difficult to do this after putting in the numbers.

So where's your sticking point on this path? If you're getting makeouts I'm assuming you don't have approach anxiety, so are you getting the number? If your able to get the number, are you able to get dates with these girls? How about second or third dates? If so, are your logistics set up right to pull after the second or third dates?

Find and attack your sticking point. Quit worrying about trying to be some stud muffin for now, just get laid!

2017-12-14T23:17:49+00:00

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Title	[Need help] Struggling with natural game
Author	PuaProcess
Upvotes	9
Comments	10
Date	December 14, 2017 10:29 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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