Openers for unique situations

ThrowawayPUA · 2018-06-06T02:58:47+00:00

You remind me of a story from David Wygant. He is coaching a clueless AFC so he takes him to lunch at Whole Foods and says watch what he does. They get in line at the deli counter behind a woman and Wygant asks her, "hey is the tunafish any good here?" and strikes up a conversation. Then they get their food and eject. Later they're at a mall and Wygant is pumping up the student to do some approaches. The AFC says "I know JUST what to do!" and then he walks up to a woman and opens "hey I know this place that has the best tunafish sandwiches!"

Your openers are equally useful.

EnvironmentalTwister · 2018-06-06T17:02:32+00:00

Every one of these save the bar tender one are cringey. Just go off of opinion openers or observational ones if you don't want to go direct.

The_Reddit_Jester · 2018-06-07T14:30:52+00:00

For all your claims that these work, I want to see your infields. Reading your posts makes me extremely skeptical of your success because it sounds like all you do is write in a "This happened" style. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I want to actually see you in action at this point.

recyclablebanthas · 2018-06-06T03:22:53+00:00

EDIT: These openers, like other things you've posted, come with some built in handicaps that require advanced game to overcome.

Some of them are specifically oriented towards your distinct personality, which also limits their utility.

1

If you're walking and the set you want to open is behind you. "Are you guys following me. Oh my bad it's just cute girls have been following me all day and I'm not complaining or anything it's just starting to weird me out a little."

Asking if they're following you, could fly.

Launching into the cute girls following you ALL day and how it's weirding you out, is tremendously specific and subject to failure in the real world. Could easily be interpreted as awkward and/or humble-brag.

What would work better is simply observing the context around you as you're walking, and when you turn around to make that comment, highlight something that's around all of you at that moment. Draw attention to something in the world around them, or observe something about them.

2

Super loud environment. Walk up and write your opener in your phone and hand it to her. No talking can be pretty hot. Keep it short and sweet.

Could work. Though if you're in a super loud environment like a club or bar, then you often have a ton of non-verbal ways to communicate with women that you probably ought to be using, before you resort to cold opening a girl by trying to get her to accept your phone.

This sort of move is often used by guys to number close in such environments so it could result in a lot of awkwardness.

You're better off opening in a more socially direct way, not by directing their attention away from the people and to the phone, but by engaging someone through facial expressions, gestures, dancing (if in a club) etc., if it's really that loud.

3

Opener for a bar tender. "Hey do you know any bar tricks?" If she doesn't then you can tease her about it, then show her a bar trick and say now you know one.

This can also fly, especially with someone such as yourself, who has your style.

However, for newbs, there's a higher level of investment here, as you're sending them on a fetch quest to go get a trick down well enough to perform it publicly, before they can use this line.

All that trouble, and simply getting the bartender to talk about their day or converse with them about the patrons (tons of material there to talk about with wacky drunks about), would be way easier.

Nothing wrong with low-hanging fruit.

4

For a gjrl in a grocery store or any store really. "OMG no way do you remember me? I use to sit behind you in grade school and write secret notes to you using my finger to trace out letters on your back." Play it out as long as you want then tell her you're kidding.

I mean, based on things you're written, it seems like this is a VERY specific thing that you might be able to pull off with your personality.

But for newbs, this is probably not so useful. This sort of gambit is very vulnerable to how well you can keep it together during presentation.

And on top of that, it's highly likely that it wouldn't fly, no matter how good you could present it. And on top of that, by going with this sort of convoluted routine, you're passing up a ton of great observable material around you at the grocery store that you could be opening her with.

5

A girl sitting with her parents at a restaurant. This only works if the girl leaves the table. Wait a little bit after she leaves then open the parents with a direct opener. Say something like "excuse me I can only stay for a second but that girl wouldn't happen to be your daughter would she?" "Well I just wanted to tell you that I think she's gorgeous and I'm sure your very proud of her. I figure a girl like that has got to be taken and I didn't want to embarrass her or myself by hitting on her in front of her parents so I figured this was my next best option."

Yikes.

Again, observation is going to give one far better ways of opening then something like this, which comes off awkward at best.

Good sales tactic is to not bring up ideas you don't want to mistakenly plant into the minds of people you're talking to. So when you start talking about not wanting to "embarrass," you're likely having the complete opposite effect.

There's no reason to even head in this direction unless you're wanting to unnecessarily up your difficulty curve.

Simply walking up and commenting about the situation would be more than enough. Doesn't matter if she's there or not, though it's better if she is. Comment if they seem to be having a good time. Comment on something you overheard in their conversation, etc.

6

And overall, it's far better to open with something that's relevant to the person you're talking to, than to try to walk up and sell them on accepting the random thing you were cooking up in your head.

Title	Openers for unique situations
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Date	June 5, 2018 11:01 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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