As I learned lots about the game, social dynamics and pick up it really transformed my life. From kissless virgin to being able to be physical, sexual, do hookups... I am still not able to pull girls from street though, I wanna get to that level.
I struggle with few major problems in terms of pick-up in public:
- being out for sake of pick-up alone:
I find it really impossible to go out alone to a club, bar or street just for sake of pickup to approach some random girls. Its not accepted by society to go to club alone basically, you will be considered weird, unpopular, etc. I have been looking into this looking for some tips, but even guys like RSDMax who has video specifally on this issue talks just shit. Like my friends didnt go out so I went alone excuse... anyway from the video its eventually obvious that he undirectly directs u to have friends, join forums and other pickup artist to get a wingman. So going solo is basically really weird and cringy. From my own experience when I tried to separate from the group when we've been in club with friends and went to a different floor by myself I really felt out of place, because these places are for social interaction, you cant really stand there and check your phone, sit at the bar if there is by some miracle a free space and drink alone,if you approach people to chat they are always with someone, nobody is alone, they find it weird and needy if random stranger tries to join their group for the night. Even if u are having fun, lets say dance to your favourite music, if u do it alone it is really weird. Another example I went to a big halloween event by myself, joined people from facebook group living in same area to share a taxi van. From their reactions to finding out I am going there alone because none of my friends could go at the time it was obvious they found it weird. I eventually hang out at the party with 2 girls that I met in the van and I got really drunk so I somehow end up leaving with them and dont remember much from the night. Next day I asked her to explain what happened, whether I paid for taxi, what did I do etc... She said I got really "pervert" touching them and stuff and that she just felt bad about me going alone thats why she let me join them. Well from a bits that I remember, she was not really that upset about me being touchy as I've been with them to couple places she could have ditched me anywhere anytime. Anyway the point is that she said she let me join them and let me leave the party with them just because I went alone and she and her friend felt bad for me. You need someone with you basically in club so society will accept u just being there...
- I find it puts a lot of pressure on women in public, if you dont separate the woman. She is basically forced by society judgement to reject you.
Lets say u sit next to somebody at some waiting room, or stand to somebody on bus station, sitting in bus with someone, whatever. Place where u can initiate conversation, but there are bystanders around you. If you initiate conversation and show intent, ask for number. It puts a lot of pressure on the girl. She doesnt wanna look slutty so she gives fake number, says she has boyfriend, etc. Example from experience, girl a friend of mine told my just recently and I saw it on her instastory as well, that some guy approached her somewhere in waiting room and was chatty and eventually asked for her number. She seemed really turned off by it and automatically considers this kind of guy as unattractive, perhaps she assumes he does that a lot, even though she indicated to me basically that she didnt like him because she found him really narcistic, knowing people around and being maybe show off or something. So its not only problem to overcome the fear to approach and take action with the girl, but the bigger problem is actually her facing that society judgement in the moment. And seems like some girls really dont like this kind of approach and label these guys straight away as players or something and doesnt wanna have anything with them.
- I find it really degrading for men to pick-up in public.
Example from life again. I am the pool at some hotel resort. There is a girl sitting at the edge of pool, so 1. issue resolved I am there with a friend, 2. issue resolved she is alone out of close reach of surrounding people. I could approach ... I see a man approach her starts chatting with her and I find the whole situation really degrading. As man we are expected to succumb like dogs and obviously try to appeal to women and convince them to let us fck her. It is really obvious why this man approached her, what he wants all this chatting is just society coverup. He would never approach random guy sitting alone in pool and start chatting with him like that for that much time. Like everybody around knows whats up he wants her pussy, she is there listening deciding if she gonna let him. Women never have to do this, they just get approached. I understand and accept it, this is how things work. But I find it really degrading for man to approach like this in public. Lots of women are just polite and will chat with the guy even if she doesnt like him from the start and would never let him have her. When I see these guys trying to approach and I see from the women that she is not really giving any IOIs I find it extremely degrading. Dont understand me wrong, I want to be that guy as well that will approach random girl he likes in public and hookup with her, but I find it really degrading and obvious for my surrounding what I am trying to do there ... looking for some 2 cents from u to change my mindset about this, how to see it differently. Because even if its a 10 alpha male slayer, he still gets into this position of succumbing dog who is being evaluated whether she lets him have her or no and has to follow the same shit with chatting around.
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