Reading All The /r/seduction posts makes me feel stupid.

HelloHiHello · 2012-08-06T05:29:21+00:00

No no no no no no no no no.

It is not obvious to others. And with something as fluid and ever-changing as seduction, I don't know if it's even possible to ever "get it."

Reading information—and I hate to be the one to break it to the community—helps very, very, very little with actual interactions.

I remember when I tried to read my way into being a sex god, so when I lost my virginity it wouldn't be embarrassing.

Yeaaaah. Actually I was so fucking anxious and nervous that I froze up and couldn't even look her in the face. She had to physically drag me to the bed and start grinding on me, while I sat there like a fish, unable to even think about being turned on.

And I read a shitton on how to be good at sex.

Learn the very basics (a few openers to give you confidence) and start applying it in the real world. It won't take long before you realize the vast majority of the seduction community talks a big game but can't back it up.

And if you really want to read something, I can't recommend 60 Years of Challenge's "complete game system" enough.

Depressed_Economist · 2012-08-06T05:50:10+00:00

My friend, I think what you can benefit the most right now is improving yourself. Some people call this inner game.

Are you happy with yourself. Are you happy with your social standing, happy with your looks, physical attraction, happy with your success and accomplishments? If you're not these should be the first things you improve. Like all those AskReddit comments say after a cheater thread: "delete facebook, hit the gym, and whatever else they do" haha.

Work on yourself, not because it'll give you a shot at women, but because you genuinely wish to be better. After a few weeks of hard work and seeing how successfully you can transform your image and outlook on life, the confidence will naturally flow.

You will change, you will get better, and you will do it if you try. If you have trouble with motivation may I suggest /r/getmotivated. If you have specific questions on what exactly you should do once you're motivated, just let me know. Good luck!

HumanSockPuppet · 2012-08-06T07:43:15+00:00

How long have you been here reading these articles and field reports?

If it hasn't been long, then that's to be expected. I felt incompetent the first time I walked onto a pistol range, surrounded by enthusiasts, experts, and professionals who had been shooting for years. Now I can put a hole in the kill zone at 15 yards like I'm a machine rest.

Believe me, none of this stuff is obvious to anyone here. If it were, we wouldn't need the seduction subreddit at all. We would be out getting high on tail instead of typing out field reports and reading blog articles. We're all here because there's "something we just don't get", and we're trying to figure out how to fix it so we can be better men, for ourselves and for the people we love.

If you're confused, befuddled, bamboozled, and generally lost when navigating the spaghetti mess of human social interactions, then let me be the first to welcome you home. Park your ass, read the material, learn what you can, and then get out there and experiment. The world is your laboratory.

ThrowawayPUA · 2012-08-06T11:51:07+00:00

One of the basic ideas of the seduction community is that men don't pick up on social signals that women give, and we aren't conscious of any signals we are giving, so we are clueless. The women are playing a game they are experienced at, and we don't even know the rules. So this is somewhat like an autistic problem, at least when it comes to women. Many men with autism or Asperger's or similar conditions, have been able to improve their social interactions using the principles developed within this community. Some people condemn the PUA world for turning social interactions into a formula, and it doesn't have to be that rigid, but for some guys, they really need that sort of help.

UnapologeticalyAlive · 2012-08-06T18:04:30+00:00

It's actually a lot simpler than it looks. Girls are people. They have a sex drive just like you. All you really have to do is relate to them as people. That happens naturally. Most of what we talk about on this subreddit is learning how to get out of your own way and let it happen.

mariodood · 2012-08-07T02:47:48+00:00

Don't worry, even with autism you're probably more socially aware than most sedditors.

ifoundout · 2012-08-06T05:21:30+00:00

Sometimes I feel like I have it too. It's a spectrum thing, right? I honestly don't want to know and whenever it bothers me I think- why should I judge myself, when there isn't a hard and fast way of labeling what I have? There are always people better or worse than me in different areas. I guess just try to improve on your positive aspects, and forcing yourself to be more social will gradually improve things. I hope this made sense?

Title	Reading All The /r/seduction posts makes me feel stupid.
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