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More or less. But the point is, you should build the life you want. It's not a limiting model, meaning, you don't go from going on a ton of dates, to just having sex – unless that's what you want to do. This post shows his average week, you can get an idea of how he balances his relationships: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2014/05/18/blackdragon-a-week-in-the-life/
/r/seduction04/07/14 07:34 PM
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I can agree with that
/r/seduction04/07/14 05:51 PM
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Love is very abundant. You say you get bad approach anxiety, maybe you do. Approaching is pretty easy though when you want to fuck. Don't look at porn or masturbate until you have sex next. If you do this, you will be so horny you'll want to fuck girls, and then you won't have approach anxiety. Plus your approaches will be a lot better to. While you're just getting out of this relationship, it's a good idea to meet a lot of girls. Set up an online dating profile, go out to bars, talk to girls in…
/r/seduction04/07/14 07:04 AM
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The best way I've found is to misinterpret something she says, or bring up a slightly sexual topic. For example, if she says something like, "school is tough, I spend a lot of nights up late studying". You could say, "studying? so that's what they call it nowadays?" Basically, taking anything that could possibly be sexual, and blatantly making the conversation about that. It's very important you want to have sex with the girl, so you can get in a sexual state. Light sexual eye contact, teasing a…
/r/seduction04/07/14 06:59 AM
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What I really would like to do though, is stay at home, crack a beer and sun myself on the roof. Like...every day I like to do that. Well if you didn't have any girls around, I bet this would change. ;) That being said... what about cracking beer and sunning with a girl? Or are you just getting tired of feminine company? You don't have to go on dates. I think it's time you get some relationship management going, my friend. This way, you can really build the life you love. You can have some girls…
/r/seduction04/07/14 06:50 AM
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But staring at a girl sexually while thinking about sex? That's actually a good thing? Absolutely. Human beings mirror each other. And women are very sexual beings. Realize that everything a woman does is a conscious choice. If a girl is at a party, and she talks about sex or romance or relationships around you, it is a very, very strong indicator that she's attracted to you. If a girl wasn't attracted to you, she wouldn't talk about sex around you. If a girl wasn't attracted to you, she wouldn'…
/r/seduction08/05/14 08:50 PM
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Gotta clue into your intuition, your empathy and your heart. didn't know if I should have insulted her back This is really crazy. You're off base here, big time. Why would you insult her? I mean.. you kinda deserved an insult. Did you like her or not? Are you on here just to find out how you can "get even" with a girl you feel wronged you? If you liked her, why the hell were you just staring into space? She's making all this effort to talk to you. Being aloof is cool. But be aloof and sexual... …
/r/seduction08/05/14 07:28 AM
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If you can't get passionate about what you're planning on spending your entire life doing, then what the hell is going on? If you're not passionate about taxes, why would you become an accountant? There are plenty of things to be passionate about within tax law. I personally am passionate about taxes – not paying them, in fact! ;) There are so many intricacies to tax law that, for someone who's interested in that kind of thing, there is MORE than enough to get extremely passionate about, if that…
/r/seduction25/12/13 06:56 PM
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You get a laugh by lowering your own value. Self-depreciating humor is not sexy. Instead, be passionate about what you're studying. You're obviously becoming an engineer for a reason. So speak with passion about it. Passion is sexy and raises your value.
/r/seduction25/12/13 08:03 AM
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Lol. Just keep working, only thing there is to it. Took me 2 years of game to just lose my virginity, and I'm coming close to 4. My life is much, much better now, but I'm still not where I want to be. Anything worthwhile in life takes effort. Do the effort now, put in 5 years on this stuff, and you never have to worry about it for the rest of your life.
/r/seduction28/11/13 07:48 PM
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Agreed, but if you're worried about getting some cheap crack whore, having a budget of $1,000 solves that problem. And if losing your virginity is taking a lot longer than you want, that $1,000 could be very well spent.
/r/seduction28/11/13 06:47 PM
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And sex is just the first base for relationships, which is a WHOLE 'NOTHER BALLGAME. Seriously... attraction and getting to sex quickly makes up like... 10% of overall game. Although it's a very crucial and necessary 10%.
/r/seduction28/11/13 06:46 PM
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Yeah, that's a great point.
/r/seduction28/11/13 04:38 AM
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Prostitutes run the gamut. In my opinion, it's worth shelling out even $1,000 for a prostitute if it means losing your virginity vs waiting 5 years+. Wear a condom and there's nothing wrong with a prostitute. Of course, if you have shame issues, they won't be solved by a prostitute. But, it IS a big deal to go from a super-virgin, to a non-virgin. An upgrade that is easily worth much more than $1,000. If I could go back, I would seriously consider losing it to a prostitute. Although if I could g…
/r/seduction28/11/13 01:15 AM
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you've met at a bar when you get that far This guy needs to be doing daygame. Day game is where you can meet ULTRA FUCKING HOT girls who are not very experienced themselves. Some girls who are even virgins, at like 19-23, just because they're not party girls. In other words... most guys favorite type of girl. Day game for a month, meet a girl like this, gain sexual experience together. BUT... don't fucking get one-itis for the girl you lose your virginity to................................... ;)
/r/seduction28/11/13 01:12 AM
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Basically, the biggest problem with complete beginners is simply overestimating the difficulty of escalation. Like, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY overestimating it. That's not an exaggeration. I was the same way as the OP at 20, when I finally kissed a girl and lost my virginity, all within 2 months of deciding that if I didn't lose it that year, I'd pay a prostitute. The world moves when you make a commitment. The good news is, you'll be chuckling to yourself in a few years. No, it's not a …
/r/seduction28/11/13 01:08 AM
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No, you don't have a clue who I am. Try and consider this option: is it possible I both manage relationships how I do, and am not self-centered? If you used that as the lens through which you viewed my posts, you would be much, much closer to the truth. Right now, you're just looking to be right. Which is great, because you get to tell yourself when you're right or not, and right now, you can tell yourself you're right. If you want. Girls punish guys all the time. Guess what? Most guys have NO C…
/r/seduction25/11/13 01:15 AM
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Dude, your whole argument falls apart when you get away from the idea of a pet. And you HAVE to get away from that idea, because a girl is a lot different from a pet. Mainly, I OWN a pet, and the pet does what I want it to do. I DON'T own a girl, so she can do whatever the fuck she wants to do. In other words, I can "punish" her all I want... it's up to her to decide if she wants to stay or not. If I'm an "asshole", and punish a "good girl", and then she decides to stay with me, I don't understa…
/r/seduction25/11/13 12:21 AM
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Your comment only makes sense if you use a double standard. Aka, when a girl does something, it's just "girls being girls". When a guy withdraws attention, it's "emotional abuse". Now I have grounds to question your own "knowledge" on relationships, as anyone who has been in a relationship knows full well that girls can cause unnecessary drama and pain for no reason whatsoever, and will do it, often (depending on the girl). If you like that, fine by me. A lot of guys don't, but they have no clue…
/r/seduction24/11/13 11:57 PM
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How is it emotional abuse?
/r/seduction24/11/13 11:09 PM
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Great post, punishing bad behavior and intermittently rewarding good behavior is a very, very, very important concept. It's how you get your ideal relationship(s). Dealing with bad behavior can be as simple as calling it out and talking about it. However, sometimes a girl is not open to that, and "calling it out" simply leads to more arguing, and more drama. In this case, it's VERY important you realize that continuing to argue and fight with a girl is a REWARD. Women love attention, and to cont…
/r/seduction24/11/13 09:08 PM
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Dead on. The distance from LA to NYC is consistent. If you travel from LA to salt lake city, then decide it's "too hard", you won't magically reach NYC... you'll just be in salt lake. In order to get the end result, you have to follow the journey to its completion. The fear people have is that they'll never get there. But, just like LA to NYC, if you follow the right road (seduction) and keep working on it, you get there. Guaranteed.
/r/seduction22/10/13 01:06 AM
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Do you have a boyfriend? (she said no), are you in love with someone (said no again), so why not go for coffee sometime next weekend? Don't like this line. It's a permission slip for YOU, and does nothing for moving the interaction forward. By that, I mean you're asking these questions to hopefully make sure that by the end, you've got an easy shot for asking her out, since she's already "qualified". The issue is severalfold. For one, many women will instinctively answer "yes" if you ask if they…
/r/seduction20/10/13 05:01 PM
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There are "moments" that happen sometimes. Like you're with a girl, she sits up, you realize "damn I should kiss her!", then you do it. That's a moment, and it's ALWAYS good to take those opportunities. However, they don't always exist, and even when they do, they're very easy to miss. Therefore, we have to CREATE our own moments instead of waiting on life to provide them. It doesn't ever have to be smooth (although it will be often). Instead, you simply need to take the ACTION. Kiss her. That's…
/r/seduction20/10/13 01:48 AM
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The mistake here is thinking that additional "lines" are going to help your issue. The problem isn't what you're sending (usually)... it's HOW you're viewing texting. I always thought "text-game" was my achilles heel as well. Then I realized it was because I was spending so much time trying to come up with "clever" lines and ways to "get a girl interested". This is very needy behavior and not what someone who has an abundance of women does. The key is to treat texting as ONLY a logistical tool. …
/r/seduction20/10/13 01:45 AM
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Closing in this manner is always about a) direct requests b) numbers game. Know what you want, and come right out and say it. Do that to enough girls and you will close. skill in seduction is about lowering the amount of times you have to try to get the close.
/r/seduction15/10/13 04:56 PM
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Great comment.
/r/seduction05/10/13 07:11 PM
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Yes, pickup is much easier - especially when you move in with the girl! I know moving in sounds like a dream come true. But the reality is, the second you do this you give away a huge amount of leverage as a man. Now the girl you're living with had permission to cause all sorts of drama, because you're not going anywhere! Hard to give advice in this situation because of that. Normally, bad behavior should be punished by a withdrawal of attention. But in this case it's basically pointless. Sorry …
/r/seduction05/10/13 06:10 PM
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There is nothing more obnoxious then seeing this comment. Think there's ever a time when a girl wants to give a guy her number, but is intimidated because he's too attractive? Or a time when a guy gets a number, but the girl is too scared to text back because she thinks he's too good for her? To think that looks solves any problems is to show a truly narrow and short sighted view of how women work.
/r/seduction05/10/13 06:06 PM
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Your entire post is outcome dependent. Meaning, you haven't integrated the most important long-term concept taught here: outcome independence. One thing you'll learn if you continue to practice this stuff, is that the world of "seduction" is much, MUCH deeper than most people think. That's because there is no world of seduction... it's real life. And real life is complicated. You really need to just consistently try new things, fail or succeed, then tweak based on results. Constantly. Worrying a…
/r/seduction23/09/13 12:19 AM
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Well then you have to pay for anything, should you actually go out, framing you as a provider for the rest of your interaction with her. No thanks! Clever, though.
/r/seduction19/09/13 04:33 AM
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I want to die just thinking about that.
/r/seduction11/09/13 10:08 PM
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Not somewhat seductive, it literally charges your voice with sexual energy. Because when you're looking a girl in the eye and you start thinking about her sucking your dick, it activates that sexual energy... you'll start feeling turned on. As a result, your voice will change very slightly. She'll pick up on this change (usually subconsciously), which turns HER on. In my world there are no IOI's. I just assume attraction by default. I don't need to look for something to see if a girl's intereste…
/r/seduction11/09/13 10:07 PM
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wtf is business insider? "business" insider... just another "credible media source" jumping on the page-view whore bandwagon. BUSINESS. ...yeah.
/r/seduction11/09/13 06:17 PM
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The question, as always, boils down to this: what do you want? Are you nervous about sex? Would you like a girl who is very understanding and caring and will teach you how to be a great lover? Or are you more confident, and just want to make sure the girl you're with is confident in herself? You get what you put out. If you pretend you're sexually experienced when you're not, you'll attract women who want someone who's sexually experienced. Can you see where this could bite you in the ass? This …
/r/seduction11/09/13 06:13 PM
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I don't think it necessarily does mean that. When talking to someone you respect, it makes sense to look into their eyes as they're talking to you. With girls, you can also seductively look into their eyes while they're talking. This is VERY effective. VERY effective. You will commonly have girls talking to you, then you look at them and think about having sex with them, they'll "feel" that, and stop talking and start fidgeting around. It's awesome. And it can be tricky to keep eye contact while…
/r/seduction11/09/13 06:08 PM
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Well the key is to first care for yourself, then care for her. Too many guys put the girl first... they ONLY care for the girl, and they don't give a damn about themselves. This is what's unattractive, what a "nice guy" does, and what puts guys in the friendzone. You can do plenty of "AFC" behavior if you've already made the decision to put yourself first. Then you're simply acting from the point of what you want to do, and when you do what you want to do, THAT is what's sexy.
/r/seduction27/08/13 09:28 PM
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You need relationship management skills. It's awesome you're at this point – relationship management is challenging, but it's really the last step. By far, the best material I've found on it is from a guy called Blackdragon... here's something to get you started: http://www.blackdragon-blog.com/2011/11/06/the-open-relationship-multiple-sexual-relationships-explained/
/r/seduction24/08/13 07:28 PM
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Glad to help, one more thing: So we are still figuring out what to do for Sunday. As a man, it's your responsibility to figure out the details, always. Of course, take her opinion into consideration if she voices it, but don't say "well, what do you want to do?" When there's a decision to be made, the responsibility defaults to you.
/r/seduction24/08/13 02:36 AM
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First off, stop putting the focus on YOU, and start putting your trust in the process that is life. Wtf does that mean? Well... I've spent several years in this community. I am a sponge. I read literally everything. Virtually every popular piece of seduction literature out there, I've read. And I've read some stuff that very, very few people know about. Anything I could find, I would read. What am I getting at? Well, some of the best nights I've had are when I've done everything wrong! I got int…
/r/seduction24/08/13 02:13 AM
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You mean the pedestal you think she's on?
/r/seduction08/08/13 03:58 AM
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I'm good looking – I hit the gym, wear clothes that fit, and have a good hair cut. Any guy who does those three things is good looking. Yes I'm white. But it would be a mistake to attribute my success to those two factors. I've been white and good looking LONG before I could walk up to girls and get laid by saying "hi". I've read just about every book there is on seduction. I've made hundreds of approaches in daytime and nighttime. I've sent hundreds of messages online. For the first 21 years of…
/r/seduction03/08/13 03:58 AM
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Step 1: get your life in order. Workout, own a business or have some other form of control over your finances, consistently break through your comfort zone. Step 2: Go out and do your daily errands. Step 3: Look for girls you're attracted to. Go up to them, make steady eye-contact, smile, say "Hi". Here's my full approach: Hi What's up? (Might make a joke here depending on her answer) Do you live around here? We should hang out sometime. What's your number? If she says she has a boyfriend or som…
/r/seduction02/08/13 09:10 PM
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Take a look at how you feel. Take a look at how people advising "the red pill" feel. Realize both these feelings are a direct result of human beings viewing life through a FANTASY, instead of REALITY. This is your issue right now. You are figuring out the REALITY of life, but you are JUDGING it against the FANTASY you already held in your head about what life was supposed to be. Now that girls don't "add up" to the fantasy you have in your life, you're "horrified" by them. Well, the problem isn'…
/r/seduction30/07/13 06:55 PM
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81% of divorces are initiated by the woman. Marriage is not natural. Now that men and women are equal, marriage is no longer a necessary compromise. Because it's not natural OR necessary, it fails on an overwhelming scale.
/r/seduction30/07/13 06:04 PM
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Yes! Finally. Thank you for the realism.
/r/seduction30/07/13 06:03 PM
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Creepy is the same energy as sexy, just perceived differently. Meaning, a girl who likes you thinks it's sexy, a girl who doesn't thinks it's creepy. Why should we be worried about the opinion of a girl who doesn't like us?
/r/seduction30/07/13 05:07 AM
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Man, I would just say get new numbers. Would most likely be less work.
/r/seduction17/07/13 07:38 PM
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Start a business, be your own man, choose yourself. You are distancing yourself from society with your massive improvement. It's only natural you won't "fit in" anymore. Don't settle for mediocrity. Live an incredible life.
/r/seduction26/06/13 03:49 PM
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Best way to meet a new girl is to get aggressively involved in your own life. Pick up a new hobby, starts business, work heavily on your life goals. Then, when you naturally find yourself outside of your house, keep your eyes open for opportunities... And take them!
/r/seduction26/06/13 03:47 PM
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See my reply to Mr-Metaphor below.
/r/seduction26/06/13 02:02 AM
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How many girls have you slept with in the past 2 years? No need for specifics, just an idea. Have you slept with this girl? Has she brought up the idea for an exclusive LTR, or is this currently all in your head?
/r/seduction26/06/13 02:01 AM
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It's about getting in touch with how you think. Think of it like this... all girls are on equal ground, but there are some girls you prefer more than others. To prefer is to accept all women for who they are, then simply get in touch with who YOU are, and match up with those girls you prefer to be around. While "better" implies scarcity, preference implies abundance. To want a woman because she's "better" and "not like the rest" implies that she's rare. In reality, she IS like the rest... she's …
/r/seduction26/06/13 01:56 AM
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Watch out for "actually really like". It implies that there are some girls who are intrinsically "better" than others, for one reason or another. Essentially, it's the Pedestal 2.0. When you find yourself dealing with a girl who you "actually really like", you're guaranteed to go back into patterns of neediness and oneitis, since you'll once again be putting a girl on a pedestal.
/r/seduction25/06/13 07:19 PM
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Do whatever works for you. I don't really call girls often... I stick to text, but I use a very minimal approach.
/r/seduction24/06/13 03:26 PM
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When things are escalating that quickly, you NEED to be completely honest and genuine with the girl you're talking to. She asked you what you do, you joked about it. This just clarified her suspicion that you were inexperienced at something like this, due to the evidence you'd already given her. At that point, you should build comort quickly by being 100% genuine and who you really are. Jokes don't seduce, vulnerability does.
/r/seduction16/06/13 03:14 PM
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Plus worrying about being creepy or needy just by adding someone on facebook is what causes neediness and creepiness in the first place. Really awesome post man. How do you generally get info to add people quickly? I'm going to start doing this asap -- do you do it on your phone right there? First/last name? Thanks for the post!
/r/seduction04/06/13 06:17 AM
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Men and women connect sexually – that's it. Your example is the equivalent of you going up to a girl and talking about nail polish or something with her. Since you obviously wouldn't do that, why do you want a girl to come fist bump you? You can get a LOT more satisfaction out of watching a Seahawks game with your guy friends. Girls aren't a whole lot of fun to sit and "watch the game" with. They're fun to have sex with and bask in their feminine energy. They're fun to carry on your back and do …
/r/seduction03/06/13 10:05 PM
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So you basically want a dude? Haha
/r/seduction03/06/13 08:09 PM
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You don't see those women because of your attitude. They are absolutely out there. Just like men can't get top quality girls without work, same goes for women.
/r/seduction03/06/13 06:05 PM
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Absolutely!
/r/seduction31/05/13 09:03 PM
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You keep yourself in her mind by being different from anyone else she's ever met, mainly. This is exactly what my friend is talking about – if you have the mindset that you need to be constantly texting her to "keep yourself in her mind", this is the mindset that will lose you the girl! I know it sounds counter-intuitive at first. But you have to realize that the highest value guys—the guys who have women chasing them—all use this perspective. If you're worried about her losing attraction for yo…
/r/seduction31/05/13 08:43 PM
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Let's change the scenario up a bit... It's understandable that a girl wouldn't want dudes asking her for her number while she's working. However, substitute "dudes" with a guy who has his life together – is physically fit, financially ambitious, social and outgoing, friendly, and gives for the sake of giving. That's why 90% of "seduction" has to do with working on yourself. Sure, if you're an average guy who spends no time working on himself, why would any attractive girl want to meet up with yo…
/r/seduction31/05/13 06:29 PM
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Approaching women while they're working is extremely difficult. Naturally, people are looking for any and every excuse to not go up and talk to them. ;) It's easy to think, "I would talk to her, but 'common wisdom' says I shouldn't". Then you don't have to get out of your comfort zone.
/r/seduction31/05/13 06:25 PM
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Thank you! FUCK. That's what I get for not googling...
/r/seduction31/05/13 03:00 PM
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Sorry – thought I made it clear it was in my experience.
/r/seduction31/05/13 05:56 AM
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Or you could dance in the rain. ;)
/r/seduction27/05/13 03:33 AM
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You don't kiss for a WOMAN, you kiss for YOU. If you kiss for a woman, then you're dead on... she will judge her attraction for you based on all these factors, blah blah blah. And the verdict will not be in your favor, because the girl will be able to tell you're kissing for HER, and not for YOU! A few insights that might help you out: Every "first kiss" is new. You never know how the other person will kiss until you kiss them. Therefore, don't worry about girls noticing you're inexperienced. Yo…
/r/seduction25/05/13 09:28 PM
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Don't view it as getting it "back". That reaffirms to yourself that you don't have it. Instead, act as if you did... Approach women!
/r/seduction25/05/13 03:30 PM
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Making women laugh is not even close to a magic bullet. In fact, it's more likely to fuck up your attempts at getting laid then anything else. Take it from me – I'm fucking funny. Always have been. I can make anyone laugh, whenever. I lost my virginity a week before my 21st birthday, after AGONIZING over that fact for my entire life. I've been funny my entire life. I've ALWAYS been able to make women laugh. But before I got my act together internally, this didn't mean SHIT. Too often I'd get a g…
/r/seduction24/05/13 10:03 PM
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"Creepy" is a concept that only exists in your mind. I recommend getting rid of it.
/r/seduction23/05/13 07:49 PM
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat During my brief stint as an employee, a girl flirting with me would make my entire day. Don't put yourself down... if you're a high value man, girls don't meet guys like you often at all. Flirt with girls at work and make their day – it's such a great opportunity to meet people.
/r/seduction23/05/13 07:44 PM
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Well a few things to note starting out... getting girls laughing during the approach has NOTHING to do with "being funny". Although I generally say absurd/cocky+funny things, I'm not just cracking jokes or being witty. In fact, that's an almost certain way to ensure a girl isn't attracted to you! In male/female interaction, there always exists a degree of tension. ALWAYS. Even if I was talking to the ugliest fat chick on the planet, there would still be that inherent tension... it's purely biolo…
/r/seduction19/05/13 06:08 PM
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What do you mean by this? Where's a reliable place I could get info on it? Thanks!
/r/seduction18/05/13 09:31 PM
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Yeah dude, this happens to everyone.
/r/seduction18/05/13 09:29 PM
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I don't understand this... even if you were incredible at online dating, the selection is still average. Yes there are some decent looking girls, but it's mainly a place where you go to hook up relatively easily. From that perspective, the only method I see value in is doing mass messaging. Interested in your thoughts.
/r/seduction18/05/13 05:27 AM
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I actually think you can only reach this level if you DO have confidence and self-esteem problems. Because it's through working HARD to overcome these problems that we gain the confidence and outcome independence that suits the lifestyle.
/r/seduction18/05/13 05:23 AM
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Don't say "females" – focus on women in reality, not the "idea" of women in your head. Take responsibility for your actions. Write from the first person. If you want to make changes in your life, you need to start from your core, and work outwards. Change your perspective. Even though you really do care about the girl. Well what have you done with this girl? Why do you really care about her? It sounds like you haven't been physical with her before. If that's the case, any sense of "caring" is in…
/r/seduction18/05/13 05:21 AM
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Yup. Took me three years solid of doing game, and YEARS of horrible failure before that to figure out "normal" is the best strategy. ;) But that's what it's all about... getting that depth. I may be acting "normal", but I know exactly what I'm doing, and why I'm doing it.
/r/seduction18/05/13 05:02 AM
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BULK. That's it. Get professional pictures, tweak your profile a bit (basically make it show that you could care less about online dating). Send 30 messages/day. Use a spreadsheet if you have to. After 4-5 messages, pitch a date and ask for a phone number. Online dating is REALLY hit or miss which is why I think it's kinda shitty. But that being said, it's an almost guaranteed way to get laid if you put in the numbers.
/r/seduction18/05/13 12:29 AM
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Damn, what a great location! My philosophy is simple... I've worked very hard in my life to be a high value man. I am outcome independent. I go to the gym three times a week no matter what. I'm self-employed. Point is – my life has value... and this is how you have to view YOUR life for this strategy to work. With that line of thought, I NEVER go anywhere for the sake of "sarging". "Picking up women" has ceased to exist for me. Instead, I simply run my errands in day-to-day life. I have fantasti…
/r/seduction18/05/13 12:26 AM
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Live in a city with lots of people... San Diego, Phoenix, Austin, NYC, etc.
/r/seduction17/05/13 10:17 PM
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Online dating isn't ridiculous at all... it's a great tool to have in the arsenal. That being said, I rarely use it anymore (but I have in the past with good results). I prefer day game, because that's where all the top quality women are, and they're not expecting to be approached, so you have the advantage from the get-go. With online dating, it's a sheer number's game (gotta send batches of messages, at least 30+ a day), plus it's shitty to think of how much work you have to put in for average…
/r/seduction17/05/13 08:34 PM
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The reason why all of it is regurgitated is because the core principals never change. So while the basic building blocks of "seduction" (read: living a fulfilling life) never change, we as humans—at least in this culture—don't like that. Instead, we want to pack the whole thing with technical bs to make sure that if we fail, we don't have to blame ourselves – we can blame the material, or lack thereof. The fact is, if everyone simply dedicated their lives to learning and mastering the basic inne…
/r/seduction16/05/13 09:36 PM
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That's the whole point: women don't make promises the same way men do. Therefore, to hold a woman to a MAN'S IDEA of a promise is bullshit to begin with. If a woman said to you, "here is the rule for this relationship, when you are angry or frustrated or sad, I want you to FEEL that way towards me so I get the message". You'd think that was complete bs. As men, we like to TALK about our problems, and find LOGICAL SOLUTIONS. Hence the promise – a completely masculine form of communication and agr…
/r/seduction16/05/13 09:29 PM
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Haha! I disagree. Open relationships mean more for everyone, without any potential of cheating whatsoever. The good news is, we don't need to make a change to relationship models as a SOCIETY. We—as individuals—decide what model works best for us. All I'm saying, is you can choose to view women as liars, sluts, whatever... if you view them through the lens of "monogamous relationships". Change the lens, though, and you change the way you view women!
/r/seduction15/05/13 10:06 PM
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I think that's a big thing missing in this guy's post... no attempts to correct the "issues", that lead to the overall negative tone. In other words, with monogamous relationships currently in a near constant stage of "NOT WORKING", we should figure out a new relationship model that works with the desires and drives of both sexes. Will a woman cheat at a moment's notice? Yes, if the moment is right. Therefore, shouldn't we design a relationship model that takes this into consideration from the v…
/r/seduction15/05/13 08:39 PM
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I agree fully. If you think that you need a mask to be acceptable to other people, well, you have the same problem everyone has. Folks, it's time to take off the masks. ;)
/r/seduction13/05/13 06:42 PM
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Another way to look at it: if you're yourself fully from the very beginning, people who don't like you will simply disappear, while people who do like you—for who you truly are—will like you instantly. I've found that allowing yourself to be vulnerable is the quickest way to make deep connections.
/r/seduction13/05/13 03:31 PM
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Well, you acted based on your emotion of feeling bad, and look what happened. It obviously doesn't serve you. Use this as evidence to overcome your anxiety.
/r/seduction13/05/13 03:03 PM
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LOL
/r/seduction13/05/13 03:01 PM
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Oh c'mon man.. Stop acting so clueless! Just use basic logic. How did you FEEL when texting this girl? And why the hell did you want her to come to brunch... just as a friend? Seems entirely pointless! If you've NEVER felt attraction for her, and only texted her from this place, you have nothing to worry about... It's all on her. If you DID, then you already know why she reacted the way she did! There's no such thing as a mixed signal -- only someone not aware of how their mind and intentions wo…
/r/seduction13/05/13 03:00 PM
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Not to mention it's a comment spawned by lack of inner game. Don't worry about scaring others away. Be yourself fully, this way, you filter out anyone who would be "scared" of your true self.
/r/seduction13/05/13 02:52 PM
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Ok, let me break it down, cause this stuff can get confusing. This girl likes you – assume every girl does in the first place, no more of this "I could've sworn"... it'll get you in your head trying to rationalize and connect the dots when you don't know what's going on in the first place. The sooner you learn this rule, the better you'll do: if a girl wants you, she'll make things happen. Now, this doesn't mean you can sit back and do nothing. No, you have to build the attraction, and make the …
/r/seduction08/05/13 08:01 PM
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You moved too slow, I wouldn't go to the bar. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. If you go to the bar with her friends, she will test you and it'll be much harder because you have no support, and are with an entirely new group of people. You're putting too much weight on asking a girl out to a date, instead of just getting her number quickly and hanging out with her. Believe it or not, women don't like dates... especially when you make a big deal out of it. Listen-- if you hit it off as well as…
/r/seduction08/05/13 03:21 PM
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Stop worrying about other people -- you can't change them. Instead, realize that this has something to do with what you're doing. Keep this in mind, and if you're viewed as creepy, ask yourself, "what did I do that led to this result?" Creepy isn't necessarily bad, either. If you're highly sexual, you can only be one of two things: someone a girl wants to fuck immediately, or creepy. Much better to be creepy than nice, means you're doing something right. That being said, work on your outcome ind…
/r/seduction08/05/13 03:15 PM
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Blaaaah that guarantees the frame is creepy
/r/seduction08/05/13 03:12 PM
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You really got to sit down and think about what you want. In almost all cases, the faster you fuck a girl, the better. This is even if you want a girlfriend or a wife. Once you've fucked a girl, you're on a whole new level with her. Kissing doesn't mean anything, fucking means a lot. It's ok to take it slow like you are, but just realize you are basically forcing the girlfriend type relationship here. There won't really be any room to make her a once a week fuck that you both enjoy. The value in…
/r/seduction08/05/13 02:05 AM
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LOL. I hope he didn't reply to this. Poor chap, harder the lesson learned the better though... Only way to get good quick.
/r/seduction08/05/13 01:48 AM
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Hitch was a great movie, but sometimes you go all the way. ;)
/r/seduction08/05/13 01:46 AM
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I'm saying, don't care about girls for now. Just when you go out, figure out what you want to be doing to have fun... then do it! If you have a group of friends, go to the dance floor with them and just fuck around. Don't even look at girls if you don't want to. Focus on having fun yourself first, and girls come naturally. Women will not talk to you about video games because of how YOU VIEW THEM. It's not because women think they're "nerdy" or "not cool" – it's because YOU think that your own ho…
/r/seduction25/04/13 05:57 PM
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The difference is, physical pain is real and generally lasts as long as it takes to heal. Psychological pain is entirely mental, and you have control over how long you feel it. Realize you are scared of something that doesn't exist. Realize this is only what you're afraid of. And realize how much WEIGHT you put on women in your life. I mean... look at you. You've accomplished a TON, yet feel like there's "something wrong with you" just because you can't talk to girls? I get it. Society's told us…
/r/seduction24/04/13 03:10 PM
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No problem. Have you ever thought about living a multiple-relationships lifestyle? When done right, it can be the best of both worlds – connection, abundance, sex... everything. It's not easy, but people have already "solved" it, so you can simply copy their material and you're golden. Of course, it's not easy, but in my opinion, it's worth it. Check out this site if you're curious on that stuff: http://blackdragonblog.wordpress.com I'll just say, sometimes our bodies are telling us something. I…
/r/seduction14/04/13 11:35 PM
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Sometimes the question is, "what do I truly want?", instead of, "what do I think I want?" By that, I mean, do you enjoy going to bars and picking up women, then bringing them home and having sex with them that night? Now, this isn't always the case, but sometimes when we feel anxiety, it's a direct result of doing something we think we should be doing, but not really what we want to be doing. It sounds like you like getting comfortable with a girl. I wonder, could it be more efficient to use day…
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:14 PM
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How do you feel about this whole situations? You need to make life changes based on how YOU feel... not on what a girl tells you. Girls are always giving advice, and while some of it is dead-on, in many cases, the advice they give is vague and generic, and should be used as a reference, not as ultimate truth. Girls are great at seeing you in a way you would never see yourself, but the way they articulate it leaves much to the imagination. Do you want to be always extroverted? What is your ideal …
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:01 PM
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What do you feel about it? Are you "yourself" when you're meeting new people, or trying too hard with an agenda? Are you equally comfortable with your platonic friend as when meeting new people (within reason)? Adopting a persona can only possibly come back to bite you. Instead of wearing a mask, if you feel uncomfortable, dig deeper into that and find out why, then work on that insecurity so you can be relaxed at all times.
/r/seduction13/04/13 12:54 AM
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Are you experiencing this bringing home a girl from a bar, or after a date, or what?
/r/seduction13/04/13 12:51 AM
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What either you or her SAY doesn't mean anything. If you want to keep this strictly FB, see her once a week only, and only have her over for sex. No "dates" or her staying over.
/r/seduction12/04/13 05:39 PM
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bingo!
/r/seduction08/04/13 04:10 AM
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Why would you use it on a cashier? This is for bars, where the rules are dramatically different.
/r/seduction08/04/13 02:05 AM
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Caps for emphasis, not yelling. ;)
/r/seduction07/04/13 11:39 PM
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"Backfiring" means, this girl is not into you and she ISN'T GOING TO BE. Do you think if you had gone up to her and said, "hello nice young girl, what is your name?" she would've been ALL OVER YOU, when saying "Don't fucking touch me", then laughing about it makes her dislike you? The women who like you will like you almost regardless of what you say (unless you get self-conscious or nervous, and blow yourself out). And if they don't like you for what you said, they probably weren't going to any…
/r/seduction07/04/13 11:07 PM
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This is awesome. To anyone who says this is awkward or creepy or could "backfire"... Realize the reason why you think this way is because you haven't gone out enough! Sure, this may not be everyone's style, but really, this is one of the only styles that will really work in a bar or nightclub. It's hilarious, sexual, high-energy, fun... everything women are looking for when they go out at night (but more importantly, everything WE'RE looking for when we go out!). It all started when I was walkin…
/r/seduction07/04/13 11:05 PM
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You're stuck in the matrix.
/r/seduction07/04/13 11:02 PM
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If you're at the point where "backfiring" talking to a girl in a bar will upset you, don't use this opener. Bars are a JOKE. Once you realize this, you'll stop basing your entire self-image off of how a girl reacts to what you say. Some girls will love you at the bar. Some girls will hate you. Who cares? Going out to a bar is about having fun. And women love fun. But if women can tell you base your self-image off of what THEY say, they'll know you're NEEDY. YOU ARE NEEDY IF YOU ARE UPSET IF A WO…
/r/seduction07/04/13 11:01 PM
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You're right!
/r/seduction07/04/13 02:41 AM
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Smiles simply prove you're having a good time (generally, you can fake them, but if you look close, you can tell a fake smile from a real one). You don't need to be a toothy mother fucker... you just need to be having a good time... have a good, positive mental state. If people say you look sad, it's most likely because you ARE sad internally. How do you feel when you get your picture taken? I assume you don't like it, because you probably think you can't smile. Therefore, this is reflected in y…
/r/seduction06/04/13 11:14 PM
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Hmm, not sure if you ever just become "outcome dependent". But you realize that every single moment is a CHOICE – how do I CHOOSE to react to this certain event? And, after time, you consistently make choices that prove you're outcome dependent. Read that again – it's not your "outcome independence" that creates your choices... it's your CHOICES that create your independence! So start making CHOICES that come from a frame of outcome independence. A few exercises to do this: I used to worry what …
/r/seduction06/04/13 11:06 PM
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The counter-intuitive solution to this is actually very simple... stop pursuing. HUH?!?!?! You are experiencing anxiety. Why? Because you WANT SOMETHING out of the girls you're pursuing. You have an agenda. They can smell this a mile away, and it takes you out of "being yourself". It's not so much lack of practice, it's simply that you have an agenda, and you want something from these women. Your mindset is all take, no give. The solution requires a complete "rewiring" of your brain. Stop viewin…
/r/seduction06/04/13 10:59 PM
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It's bad communication on my end. I didn't mean "blame" in a negative sense. More of an empowering sense... if everything is your fault (with no judgement), it means you can fix everything. Now, you could say, "I can't make her love me", which is 100% dead on. But you CAN change how you FEEL about the situation you're currently in. And changing how you FEEL changes who you are as a person, and people notice.
/r/seduction23/03/13 02:40 AM
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Nailed it man!
/r/seduction21/03/13 06:40 AM
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You've missed the point.
/r/seduction20/03/13 10:19 PM
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You neither hear me OR understand what I'm talking about. And you're not being honest. You've funneled your entire life into an incredibly narrow worldview, then you tell yourself you're doing the world a favor by being as shy and invisible as possible. You've convinced yourself you're thinking logically, when you haven't even taken the time to look at the world, and how it truly works. You spend your entire life engaged in a mental dialogue that presumes to tell you how to live your life. And y…
/r/seduction20/03/13 09:35 PM
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Who cares?
/r/seduction20/03/13 09:12 PM
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No, you don't know your limits, and you don't have a clue what kind of stuff you "can't do". You've simply had a handful of negative experiences and used those to define WHO YOU ARE. Then you tell yourself you have a rock-solid core because you "accept" yourself for having no value. Absolutely absurd. You don't own anything but your excuses. You haven't even begun to tap into your actual potential, and as long as you're in this state of "I know what I'm capable of, and it's NOT THAT", you're goi…
/r/seduction20/03/13 09:10 PM
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Ah, so your behavior spawns your thoughts?
/r/seduction20/03/13 09:06 PM
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So what you're saying, is you don't have 100% rock-solid inner game. ;) Why would you try and be cool anyways?
/r/seduction20/03/13 08:09 PM
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Not sure what you mean by inner game self-scrutiny, and what you mean by that being insecure. I agree on action, but the question always is, do you want the easy way or the hard way?
/r/seduction20/03/13 07:20 PM
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Why do they intimidate you?
/r/seduction20/03/13 07:18 PM
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"solid inner game" means unconditional self-love and acceptance. If you're shy around girls, it's because you're looking to GET something from them. Additionally, you are afraid of "screwing up" or "getting rejected". This is not 100% solid on inner game. Not sure if there is a such thing as 100% solid inner game (it's infinite). But suffice to say, if you still feel shy around women, you need to search your soul for why that might be. Go talk to women and look at how you feel. Why are you shy a…
/r/seduction20/03/13 03:31 PM
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Agreed! Fake it, then assess how it actually went in reality and make improvements. By doing this, soon you won't be "faking it" anymore... you'll BE it.
/r/seduction20/03/13 02:51 PM
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You're welcome to keep your opinion. ;)
/r/seduction20/03/13 02:51 PM
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Yes and no. They were playing the numbers game AND improving their skills... at attracting women through lines and routines. These guys literally worked FULL TIME to pick up women. Now, I know a lot of guys in this community think this is a great idea And if that's how you feel, that's perfectly fine. Personally, I've found having women in my life is just a simple upgrade – much like going to the gym consistently. Therefore, it makes NO SENSE to pursue women full-time! That is mind boggling, and…
/r/seduction20/03/13 02:50 PM
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Sorry, I meant blame without judging yourself negatively (bad communication on my part!). Examining the situation you were just in, figuring you what went good and what went bad, loving yourself for going past your comfort zone, and improving the next time. Learning outer Game seems to improv my inne Game since i have experienced that i can change shit. Exactly. All "outer game" is simply a crutch for inner game. But be careful you don't get stuck in an "outer game loop", where you find yourself…
/r/seduction20/03/13 02:38 PM
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Sorry, that is blame WITHOUT judgement. "It's my fault, but that's okay. What did I do right, what did I do wrong. Next time I'll do this and this to make sure it goes better". Bad communication on my end.
/r/seduction20/03/13 02:37 PM
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I disagree. Ex: when he gets the job at stanley cooper. He wasn't handed that job. He chased after it and PROVED he deserved it. And they only let him on grudgingly, where he delivered BIG TIME, and was eventually made a partner. The character Don Draper did not "get lucky", he earned his way up, from selling cars to creating advertisements. He is a good role model. Think of the control he has over his mental state, which impacts his outer state. He is always cool and makes the right decision (F…
/r/seduction20/03/13 05:46 AM
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Hmm... I see what you're saying. You don't ever become a natural. But that's okay (good thing, actually). Naturals will never be in complete control, as they don't see the whole picture. Ex: I have another natural friend who gets laid basically on command. But he's miserable... he just wants a relationship with a girl to work out, but he can't see that HE is the problem! He blames the girls, when they simply reflect himself back. It's his fault, but who could tell him? If he would simply step ba…
/r/seduction20/03/13 05:36 AM
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Ahh, damn! I get ahead of myself. ;) Don Draper is not Don Draper because of his suits, high status job, etc. Just for that show, if you've seen it, you know that he got all this stuff AFTER he was already his "character". This is how it happens in real life too. First you master the internal reality, then you get the external. So instead of looking at the EXTERNAL traits he has, look at his INTERNAL mindsets. Look at the way he talks to women. At how he deals with women. At his ability to walk …
/r/seduction20/03/13 02:34 AM
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I'm iffy on RSD... some okay stuff, mostly hype and ego. Here are two awesome free resources: https://www.youtube.com/user/askbrentsmith http://www.djbible.classicalgasemissions.com/book_of_pook.pdf
/r/seduction19/03/13 10:53 PM
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Instead, try looking around and count the number of people who are on their phones and smile to yourself, because you are already demonstrating higher value than they are. That should boost your confidence enough to re-engage in being social. This will cause anxiety, GUARANTEED. If you compare yourself to someone else, framing them in a negative light and you in a positive one (eg, judge them harshly), you WILL feel anxiety. Instead, find the people who look like they're having a shit time, so t…
/r/seduction12/03/13 02:16 AM
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Are they much bigger than normal teeth? Teeth don't play much of a roll in kissing. Remember, you are not your teeth. Everyone is extremely sub-conscious about one aspect of themselves or another. We worry about our own flaws much more than other people actually give a fuck about them. In order for someone else to accept you, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT YOURSELF FIRST. This does two things: 1) Makes you incredibly likable 2) Ensures that even if you're in an embarrassing situation, it doesn't ruin you. I…
/r/seduction08/03/13 09:14 PM
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You're viewing this the wrong way... you still put her as the prize, and you as the person who must "win" the prize (her kiss!). Believe it or not, women don't want you to feel this way. You've been brainwashed. Instead, picture a reality where instead of you doing the work, it's completely reversed. Eg, she does the work, and YOU reward her with physical touch, kissing, and sex. This kind of thinking will do the hard work for you. Because you'll naturally assume she wants to be kissed at all ti…
/r/seduction07/03/13 04:48 PM
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FUCK, I keep leaving important shit out of the OP. Yes. And get this: a lot of times when you go in for the kiss it'll be awkward. But only awkward for that .1 second you're moving to her face. SO DON'T SPEND A FUCKING SECOND LOOKING FOR THE "RIGHT MOMENT". Sometimes the right moment is there. Other times you gotta MAKE IT. If you like her, if you're attracted to her, if you're both having a good time, DO IT, even if going in is awkward! If you want, watch the show Mad Men and check out Don Drap…
/r/seduction07/03/13 01:38 AM
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I've thought about it... I feel that exclamation points, when used excessively, add a sense of humor to what you're saying, on top of the exclamation. Obviously, this is something I use very rarely. ;) I'm of the opinion that good writing is when you get your message across.
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:21 PM
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It's all connected!
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:18 PM
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Glad you've gained value from them!
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:18 PM
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This is a highly irrational worry that you should delete from your brain entirely.
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:17 PM
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Maybe with that attitude! ;)
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:17 PM
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It looks like a lot of people have the same issues I had getting started with this. I think the reason why there's fear of kissing ANY girl, is because people are scared of THE KISS. I used to think think, if I kiss some random girl, she's gonna know I've never kissed anyone before and tell everyone about it. But if I got a "special girl" in a relationship, then I could kiss her and be bad, and then I would be able to tell her it was my first time, and she hopefully wouldn't tell all my friends …
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:16 PM
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God that is fucking awesome
/r/seduction06/03/13 08:59 PM
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The day you stop saying "le sigh" is the day it'll happen. ;) ;) I hate to be the bringer of cliche advice, but if it works it works.... JUST DO IT!
/r/seduction06/03/13 04:57 PM
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Not sure how it was at your highschool, but I remember being in 9th grade and feeling fucking AWFUL having never kissed a girl. I assumed it would happen in highschool. It didn't. So although 20 isn't "late", looking at it now, looking back, it's basically the same as any age past 20. Why? Because past 20, people stop giving a fuck about you like they do in highschool. Now, you need to decide something. Do you want to kiss a girl? If so, DECIDE TO DO IT. Yes, DECIDE TO DO IT. Give yourself a gua…
/r/seduction06/03/13 04:54 PM
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The kiss—in and of itself—has meaning. It's the action! Once again, you've been brainwashed to think that a kiss has to "mean something". It always "means something", but never what they told you it would in the movies! Why can't you just care about every human being? That way, no matter who you kiss, it matters! One thing you'll learn is that your life is your own... you get meaning out of whatever you want to get meaning out of. Therefore, for a kiss to "matter", all you have to do is DECIDE i…
/r/seduction06/03/13 03:35 PM
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You haven't separated your life from sex, so if you "can't close", it must mean your life is worthless. Stop comparing yourself to other people. You've been brainwashed to do that. Nothing anyone does matters to your life... all you experience is what's infront of you. Live it your own way. And stop saying "can't". It will make a huge difference in your life.
/r/seduction06/03/13 03:32 PM
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There are 111,000+ readers on this subreddit. There's a great chance that a huge number of these readers are virgins or have never kissed before. That's what happens with a community. When it starts out small, the information is targeted, relevant and advanced 90% of the time. As the community grows, the ratio flips, meaning there may be only 5-10% advanced material. Overcoming fear IS seduction... none of the techniques mean anything if you're coming from a position of fear. You probably alread…
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:21 PM
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That's a good point. BUT, if you have a bad kiss, there's a great chance you weren't compatible in the first place. Don't worry about your performance for women... focus on how it FEELS FOR YOU. Who cares if a woman would end a relationship because of a bad kiss? Why don't YOU end that relationship if you don't like the kiss? There are plenty of girls out there who are awful at kissing... to me... but I'm sure they've been great for other guys they're compatible with. It says absolutely nothing …
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:16 PM
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Nah it's not pathetic. Think of why you think it's pathetic... because everyone's told you it's pathetic. That's a negative judgement and it doesn't help you. The reality is you need to learn things in a way that works for YOU... why the hell would you listen to what someone else says about how you should think about your life? You don't need to fix anything, you're already fine. It's your life... live it how you want!
/r/seduction06/03/13 07:09 AM
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No, doesn't mean shit, do what you want!
/r/seduction06/03/13 06:53 AM
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Great points!
/r/seduction31/01/13 10:12 PM
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What puaCurveBall said – sounds like you're worried about being "smooth" or not "making a big move". Stop. It doesn't matter if it's awkward as long as you get it done. It doesn't matter what you do so much as it matters HOW you do it. Just do whatever it is you want to do unapologetically. If it's awkward, forget about it and continue to escalate. You really smash this fear with a sledgehammer... really push it!
/r/seduction31/01/13 04:13 PM
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They are relatively useless. I've never paid to go to one, but I have sat in on one taught by one of the biggest—in not the biggest—dating companies (dude that ran it was a client). I was honestly blown away by the lack of professionalism for a $3k+/head event. The biggest part of seduction and getting this part of your life down is how you view your internal world. And that's why a bootcamp is pretty worthless... it will hype you up big time, you may get over some decent sized fears, but then 2…
/r/seduction30/01/13 04:59 PM
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First off, realize no one gives a fuck about you, and any negative thoughts they have towards you are simply meant to rationalize away their own insecurities. "I feel like a fucking loser right now.... oh... look at that guy... he's alone, he's an even bigger loser!" The only people who will view you in a negative light are the people who are already in a negative state of mind. No one having fun and enjoying themselves is going to judge you. And for those that do judge you, realize they aren't …
/r/seduction26/01/13 09:45 PM
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You can start with not being ashamed to even post this. Your title: How does one "fix themselves" before they go looking for girls? Say "How do I". Through your language, your transferring responsibility from yourself to this theoretical "one". You need to become familiar and friendly and loving with "I". WHO YOU ARE. Every issue you have is caused by the lack of self-love (as is virtually every issue found within this community). I'd rather stay single than admit something like that. Then you'r…
/r/seduction15/01/13 06:57 PM
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Love yourself enough to draw boundaries – what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior from friends? Build people up... whenever someone makes fun of you, do your best to pay them a real, genuine compliment the next time an opportunity presents itself. Forget being alpha and start building a life that you enjoy. It starts with loving yourself, because if you love yourself, nothing anyone else says will affect you at all. You know how it hurts when someone makes fun of you? That's not other peopl…
/r/seduction12/01/13 02:31 AM
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If attractiveness comes from within, would you be willing to fuck an obese but self confident and successful woman? No – I'm a man. Sounds like you've got a great idea on the direction you want to go in. Let me know if you have questions down the road!
/r/seduction29/12/12 05:49 PM
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"Women" and "men" are broad umbrella terms that are used to cover a HUGE number of individuals. And that's what we deal with in seduction: INDIVIDUAL WOMEN, all whom are different. Therefore, knowing what women generally desire isn't practical. What's working for me, as far as creating my dream lifestyle in the real world, not theoretical, is knowing that what's "attractive" comes from within.
/r/seduction28/12/12 08:19 PM
2

Gotcha, sorry. Walk over, immediately say "excuse me", wait to get their attention (will happen immediately), say "Hey, my name's X, I just moved here." Or if they're at your apartment complex, you could say "I just moved into 104" or something like that. No need to script it... just say excuse me, tell them your situation and the rest will handle itself. Then say something like "so what do you guys do for fun around here?" After they say what it is, ask yourself if you'd like to do it, if you a…
/r/seduction17/11/12 05:11 PM
4

Why would that be weird or desperate? As long as you believe it's weird or desperate, that's how it will come off as. If you believe what you're doing is completely normal and incredibly beneficial to your overall happiness, that's how it will come off. But just think logically... you're new... you want to meet people. That's not desperate, that's human.
/r/seduction17/11/12 05:54 AM
1

I lived in San Diego for 6 months, hopefully it doesn't count. ;) You go out at all? I could use a decent wingman!
/r/seduction17/11/12 01:35 AM
8

Absolutely. My experience? I'm 21, just moved to Austin Texas five months ago. I made a plan to talk to literally everyone, both within my apartment complex and outside of it. Within the first week, I had a decent social circle – definitely a foundation to build from. I've gone on to make great friendships with these people I met originally, and know all but... hmm... five people at my apartment complex. My advice is just go out the fucking way to talk to everyone. If you see someone in your com…
/r/seduction16/11/12 09:14 PM
-5

So?
/r/seduction16/11/12 07:25 PM
1

It's not the opener I would use, but once again, it doesn't matter what you say. I respectfully disagree as far as it being textbook noobie goes.
/r/seduction16/11/12 07:12 PM
1

It's almost worse to get attention. Gets you that "feel good" feeling that justifies you going home early, even though you didn't accomplish shit. Much better to get that feeling from approaching 10 girls who didn't give you a speck of attention. Because at the end of the day, the result is the same. Whether you get attention or not, you're still not getting laid either way until you put in your time and get good at this shit. If anything, be glad to not be good looking. Makes it MUCH easier to …
/r/seduction16/11/12 04:37 PM
-1

To anyone who thinks this guy is bad – THIS IS THE REAL WORLD. Pick-up is NOT SMOOTH. It is, sometimes, when the stars align. Then it's smooth. And if you think he's bad, YOU'RE FOCUSING ON WHAT HE'S SAYING. THIS DOESN'T MEAN SHIT TO WOMEN! Check out what he does after he asks for the numbers (which he did in a "disqualifying" way, BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER.) He asks for the number, then SHUTS THE FUCK UP. He says NOTHING. Awkward silence is good! If you ever want to get good at this, you have to be …
/r/seduction16/11/12 04:26 PM
1

Yes. Amazing for perspective, and is a great read... difficult to explain. Get it at a library.
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:36 PM
3

That's awesome – you girls really hate awkward, don't you? Thanks for the perspective!
/r/seduction09/11/12 05:17 AM
1

Maybe she didn't want to be seen making out with you in public in front of everyone in your class? My guess is you may have overdone it a bit and she felt slutty. In general, if you want a girl for longer term, less is more. One kiss maximum until you're alone.
/r/seduction08/11/12 11:57 PM
5

I can't help laughing at this mess we've gotten ourselves in as a human race. Men need help with seduction. Women need help with seduction. Folks, we have the key! We can simply forget seduction and just do whatever we want with whomever we want! Ah Utopia, just out of reach!
/r/seduction02/11/12 01:27 AM
2

"Okay"
/r/seduction29/10/12 03:27 PM
1

You can't get every girl. I want every set I open to work perfectly every time. That's not how it works. But even though it sucks, it's actually a good thing, taking a step back.
/r/seduction29/10/12 04:21 AM
2

I agree on both counts.
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:49 PM
1

By money tree, I mean a business that prints money no matter what you're doing – it doesn't rely on you to run. For example, a lead generation website. People can land on the site at any hour, then hook up with a particular business without the founder of this site even lifting a finger. It's about making a business that can run without you. You already know more than enough to make as much money as you'd like, you've admitted that the reason you're not is because there are other things you want…
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:41 PM
11

Not really. "I beg your pardon?" "You're a dumbass" "Why?" A lot of times people will make fun of someone. Because they're insecure. But just because they make fun of someone doesn't mean they actually want to start a fight. In 90% of cases, no one wants to start a fight – especially the host of a party. If he does repeat "you're a dumbass", he's blatantly looking to start a fight. But as in all interactions, it doesn't matter what the other person does – it matters how you handle it. If he repe…
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:23 PM
48

First thing is to realize that silence isn't your enemy, it's your best friend. Because when two people are attracted to each other and there's silence, it causes sexual tension. Which is the best thing in the world. In fact, silence combined with eye contact is so powerful it can replace most forms of kino and build ample sexual tension for whatever comes next. So next time there's silence, just look the girl in the eye. If you really wan to heat things up, look her in the eye and think about f…
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:16 PM
1

I didn't find much "whack" about it personally.
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:12 PM
1

What your parents know and taught you is irrelevant, since you're a human being entirely capable of choosing what you learn. Once again, you're limiting how you think. Yes, it will be very difficult to make a lot of money as a contractor if you compete with every other programmer out there. Cause there are THOUSANDS of programmers. Here's where you need to think outside the box. You need to identify a section of programming very few people are looking at but has a ton of potential. Then become t…
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:11 PM
0

If all I had was a "scheme", I wouldn't be confident. Sky-is-the-limit isn't optimistic – it's actually realistic thinking. It's unrealistic to think that just because everyone your entire life has told you life works a certain way, means it absolutely works that way – especially when there are people who thrive by making sure the majority of people live trapped lives. You do need financial independence. What do you do at these startups? Surely you could start your own company that offers the ex…
/r/seduction28/10/12 07:45 PM
0

No, but it is a start. And it gives me examples of what to do and not do. You're right. What are you doing with this opportunity? Are you simply another worker, or do you constantly go to the founder with business related questions, in an attempt to learn everything you can from someone who is already successful? Startup founders love to talk and give advice, just like most human beings. If you've got a guaranteed scheme to get rich, I've got a bridge in San Francisco you might want to purchase.…
/r/seduction28/10/12 05:56 PM
-1

You know just as well as me that working for startups will never make you rich. I guess you're saying Mitt Romney had everything fall into his lap? Well maybe he did... not sure why you'd use him as an example when there are so many others who have started from nothing and have made multiples more than Mitt.
/r/seduction28/10/12 05:38 PM
26

Read "The Way of the Superior Man"
/r/seduction28/10/12 05:13 PM
-1

I didn't downvote you – actually just upvoted. I don't really understand what you're saying... why can't you start your own companies?
/r/seduction28/10/12 05:12 PM
-2

Actually, income and discipline go hand in hand.
/r/seduction28/10/12 03:29 PM
37

"I know that confidence follows action so I will act even though it scares the fuck out of me, knowing I will be confident within 5 seconds of interaction"
/r/seduction22/10/12 11:45 PM
3

Learn how to listen. Ask very simple questions that get responses (such as heckz's suggestion), then ask questions based on the response. Despite what most AFC's think, women love to talk.
/r/seduction22/10/12 11:44 PM
4

That's your problem: basing your entire reality off random comments a very small number of girls have made.
/r/seduction18/10/12 11:05 PM
2

It's not a RULE for ANYONE to get laid on a consistent and regular basis. Seduction is all about being the exception.
/r/seduction17/10/12 02:49 PM
2

Hahahaha, this is amazing! You're a great writer.
/r/seduction16/10/12 12:47 AM
1

This isn't just for living at home, it's for life! Master these skills and you can make ANY situation work to your advantage – because you create it!
/r/seduction09/10/12 05:05 AM
5

Who cares? There are a lot of factors to consider. Right place at the right time, fate, destiny... Opportunity comes and no one can give you a good reason why. The important thing is to be prepared for that opportunity, so you can take it instead of watching it pass you by.
/r/seduction06/10/12 10:24 PM
3

Isn't it funny how the fact that we all feel like we're alone, actually means none of us are alone?
/r/seduction05/10/12 03:03 PM
2

You don't have to be perfect. Don't worry about being in an outcome dependent state. This takes constant practice. This has happened to me tons – I feel all shitty leading up to a date, then as soon as I see the girl's face it's on and I'm in a great mood. Is that where I want to be five years from now? No, I'd like to be in greater control of my moods. There are no tricks, only practice. As a rule of thumb, realize the way you feel in any given moment has absolutely NOTHING to do with how you'l…
/r/seduction05/10/12 01:49 AM
1

How long have you been doing this, a year? Also, how old are you?
/r/seduction04/10/12 10:19 PM
0

Get her to sit next to you. If that's impossible, don't worry. You don't need kino, you need sexual tension. (in fact, sometimes kino can dissipate sexual tension – BAAAAD) Look her in the eyes. All the time. Constantly. When you feel like adding a sexual spike to the interaction, look at her lips for a second, then back up to her eyes. While you look in her eyes, picture making out with her, having sex with her, watching her give you a blow job. Kino on steroids... and you don't even have to "m…
/r/seduction04/10/12 05:23 PM
1

I think that might be the only thing we know – that there will be plenty of new opportunities (more than you could ever possibly deal with in a lifetime).
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:56 PM
1

You might be surprised. So what have you done, specifically, to get yourself closer to your goals?
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:51 PM
1

Even if you didn't want her to be the type you wanted to like you?
/r/seduction04/10/12 05:17 AM
1

There have been girls who have liked you in the past, but you haven't liked them?
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:55 AM
1

Life – what else is there?
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:42 AM
1

I don't know how I can be more obvious.
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:29 AM
1

What do you want?
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:23 AM
1

Well, you've helped me learn a lot about myself.
/r/seduction04/10/12 04:10 AM
1

No, you haven't. Because nothing I said in my comment has to do with women's opinions, yet that is where you went immediately. It has to do with you, who you are, as a person. And loving that person, because if you don't, why would you expect someone else to?
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:58 AM
1

Which was...?
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:41 AM
1

Why?
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:38 AM
2

No. I said you WANT it, not that you LIKE it. So why do you WANT something you don't LIKE? Because you think it's better than the alternative option – that you could be wrong.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:27 AM
1

The question is, where do you fit in? The ones who "have it", or the ones who don't?
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:17 AM
2

Yes, you do, or it would not be "this way".
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:16 AM
2

Well, I actually think we can offer a bit of advice – but none of it is going to be techniques you can do to get the guy. Here's the key: YOU ALREADY GOT THE GUY. The only thing preventing you from continuing to pursue that interest is yourself. I know what that feels like. I've been there. I've self-sabotaged myself over, and over, and over, and over again. It's awesome that you post this tonight, as it hits home to something I've been really working on myself. Which is, letting yourself do wha…
/r/seduction04/10/12 02:50 AM
1

I know you're right – to you.
/r/seduction04/10/12 02:42 AM
1

If you say so.
/r/seduction04/10/12 02:33 AM
2

So what? Seriously. So what? Are you going to let the random opinion of women on the internet dictate your life? If so, you've already lost! As if you could actually BELIEVE that is true, after a few comments on /r/askwomen? Let's say you were approached by 150 people per day. They were all offering to give you $0.01 cent. That would be fucking annoying. What the hell are you going to do with these pennies? Now, let's say 150 people approach you with $0.01 per day. But every week, there's a 10% …
/r/seduction04/10/12 01:27 AM
1

Rookie^ ;) ;)
/r/seduction04/10/12 12:57 AM
3

Most people never listen. Most people say what they want to say, then while the other person is talking, they're not listening – they're thinking of what they want to say next. So it's just a one-way interaction, from both sides. Both people are just thinking of what they want to say, and no one actually listens. To be interesting, just listen. While the other person is talking, just listen. And when they stop, ask a question regarding what they've been talking about, encouraging them to speak m…
/r/seduction04/10/12 12:13 AM
43

Awesome, thanks for sharing this! We seem to always want to be the following two things: Interesting Amazing at sex And we think both of these "abilities" revolve around US. We think if we read a million books and go out every night and go to museums and buy expensive wine we'll be interesting. And we think if we get our "technique" down, learn all the right spots to touch, the right way to move our fingers, we'll be amazing at sex. That's the wrong way to look at it. Be realistic. Everyone want…
/r/seduction03/10/12 08:53 PM
12

Ah, I can't see myself doing this at all. I understand that it could help desensitize me to talking to strangers but I'm afraid of creeping people out and just coming off awkward. I mean, who really goes around saying "hi" to everyone they see? And, what would I say after that? I'm afraid of looking stupid. Your issue comes from a misperceived notion of self-importance. We all have this (well, in 1st world countries) to some degree. The idea that other people care about what you do and why you d…
/r/seduction03/10/12 03:58 PM
1

Well, I would say that I don't believe in it. I don't really like the idea of having beliefs, because to me, a belief seems like something you identify with, and if you identify with it, you're not going to want to change it. Changing beliefs feels like dying. But if you have an opinion that doesn't match up with evidence presented in daily life, it's very easy to change it. That's a great question and one I've thought about quite a bit. I'm of the opinion that everyone CAN do what I've done, or…
/r/seduction03/10/12 02:51 PM
1

Awesome man. As always, great for the reinforcement that yes, hard work pays off.
/r/seduction03/10/12 02:34 AM
5

What was your biggest breakthrough? Did you ever feel, "I'm never going to make it" and then eventually did? What changed? When was the tipping point, when you realized you had a handle on it and were living your ideal lifestyle?
/r/seduction03/10/12 02:26 AM
2

It seems like it would, but then again, if she really forgets about a time and place agreement, was she that interested in the first place?
/r/seduction03/10/12 02:19 AM
2

It's a tough call. In these cases, I usually like to call on my friend Logic. What are the odds that she forgets a date with you? And if she forgets a date with you, what are the odds she liked you to begin with? I've sent many date-eve texts myself. And every time I've done it, I've felt kinda shitty about it. Also, another tool in these situations, think about who you picture in your head, your SELF – how does he react to such a situation? Does he text girls the day before, and the day of, rem…
/r/seduction03/10/12 01:12 AM
3

Yeah, I meant resume padding for yourself. Which is good, but if that becomes the priority in a date, well... that becomes the priority. For kino, here's what I do – every time I get the urge "touch her there like this" (and you'll always get these urges), I just do it without hesitating. And right at the second when my mind says "NO IT'S TOO SOON" is basically the green light that tells me I HAVE to do it in that moment. You already know what to do, so it's not figuring out what kind of kino to…
/r/seduction03/10/12 12:45 AM
28

You want to tell all your friends you've slept with a porn star. I can't blame you, at all. I would be fucking ecstatic to put that on my "resume". That being said, it's clearly affecting your mind. Look at this – you're not even going on a date with her. You're simply using her to pad your resume. No problem. But realize most often what we chase after at the expense of all else, is what takes the longest to get. This girl knows every dude wants to fuck her. Every single dude. She KNOWS there ar…
/r/seduction03/10/12 12:18 AM
1

Sure, no problem – just toss a link to my archive, http://pyrrhiccanvas.com/just-be-yourself/
/r/seduction02/10/12 10:45 PM
1

Alright, sorry, been busy last few days. The best version of me does not speak the way I do. He does not look the way I do. He does not dress the way I do. He does not get the same results and experiences I do. These things make a person. These things aren't me, so this man isn't me. For the first one, I would simply say, you obviously know who you want to be. You have a concept of a man who does everything you want to do. All I'm saying, is THAT is you. Not who you are right now – that is your …
/r/seduction02/10/12 08:06 PM
181

Forget about growing balls. Realize what you're attempting to do, very, very, very few men ever do. There are VERY FEW men who have ever approached a beautiful woman out of the blue. So take it for what it is – a very difficult task. Stop beating yourself up, stop being pissed at yourself – realize doing both of these things has never lead you to action before, and won't now. Making yourself feel bad for the sake of feeling bad is worthless and something you MUST give up if you want to progress …
/r/seduction02/10/12 07:23 PM
0

It actually does, if you know what it means. It means doing what you feel like doing at any given moment. Not making excuses for what you actually desire. Just Be Yourself
/r/seduction02/10/12 02:27 AM
1

Well, you could give it a shot and see how it feels for you. I think you'll like the results.
/r/seduction01/10/12 07:36 PM
2

This is assuming you're in a situation where you can approach 10 girls to build momentum. I don't know about you, but I didn't get into pick-up to approach 10 girls everyday. I got into pickup so when I saw a girl I wanted on the street, or sitting down, or wherever, I could talk to her and have a good chance of picking her up. I do think your approach is a good one, it's very important to know how to have a conversation. But for me, I realized a conversation was natural once the ice was broken.…
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:36 PM
1

Yes. Women love fun, they hate boring. That's basically the only definitive statement I can make about the opposite gender.
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:30 PM
2

Girls are a lot more clever than you might think. More clever than me, in my experience.
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:28 PM
1

You have a strong desire to one day teach seduction. Your current approach will do nothing but turn potential students off. Instead of reading everything with the intent to prove how right you are, inject yourself into the experience. Then you will be able to relate to the people you're trying to teach. If the your only point in teaching is to prove how right you are, you're not really teaching – you're seeking validation. And you know just as well as I do, seeking validation is NOT an attractiv…
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:13 PM
1

What does it for you?
/r/seduction01/10/12 04:43 PM
4

Oh lawdy, I gotta apologize – I got mixed up with the messages earlier, other than the very first reply I sent you. Okay, this might help you out some more, sorry about brushing you off in the earlier responses: It is "odd" to jump right into a story. And that's what pickup is all about. Standing out. Doing what no one else will do. Why do I start out with the story? Because immediately, it's interesting AND relevant, and it requires absolutely nothing out of her. This is what women hate – when …
/r/seduction01/10/12 04:43 PM
4

HAHA! Wikipedia smart – nailed it!
/r/seduction01/10/12 04:35 PM
7

Risk awkward – it's not the end of the world. Worst case scenario, you have a story to laugh about.
/r/seduction01/10/12 04:33 PM
3

This isn't an exploration of value, it's an opener post. I AM the OP. I honestly have no clue what we're even talking about. I could care less about the term demonstrating value, that's what my point was in my original reply.
/r/seduction01/10/12 04:28 PM
2

Arguing with what? You don't demonstrate NO value. You simply understand you're a valuable human being when you approach.
/r/seduction01/10/12 04:16 PM
1

No, it doesn't. Because after you say "hello," she says "hello," and then what? Yes, you have to run your mouth. You have to warm her up. You have to break the ice. This puts that entire process into one story, meaning once it's over, she's already into you.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:14 PM
2

EVERYTHING can backfire! THERE IS NO PERFECT APPROACH. Some girls will like you, some girls won't. That is a fact of life and NO ONE will tell you any differently. If a girl has "space issues," she rejects you no matter what you say. Does that mean you stop trying? No, you simply move on to the next girl.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:14 PM
1

If you've tried it, you'll know why that isn't always the best approach.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:12 PM
2

Why the hell would you need to demonstrate your value? Even if you did need to: • Not everyone can tell stories, you can – value. • Not everyone understands that social norms are not real and made up in our heads – value. • Not everyone sits down next to a good looking girl when there are other seats, but everyone wants to – value. You don't need to demonstrate value to anyone.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:12 PM
2

Yes, tested over and over again. And you better believe this isn't the only approach I've tried. I've done "hi," I've done traditional routines, I've used "do you like salad", I've done non-verbal routines (aka just grab 'em)... none of them set me up for success like this one does. You cannot organically create a fun conversation 100% of the time. That's just how it is. There is always the moment when the girl wonders why you're talking to her. I feel like some guys on this subreddit think they…
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:10 PM
2

This is the kind of comment I used to make before I started going out.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:01 PM
2

You're funny.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:01 PM
2

The internet skeptics – so skeptical they never leave their house. ;)
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:00 PM
1

There's no such thing as a logical progression in seduction. But, even if you were to look at it through that perspective, the great thing about this is it does both: you're telling an interesting perspective that breaks down normal social barriers, and it's interesting, and it's a story. Everyday joe doesn't do this, which would naturally create attraction. But don't be worried about creating attraction, it's already there.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:00 PM
1

No, I would just say I heard it from my anthropology teacher, which is true.
/r/seduction01/10/12 02:57 PM
10

Exactly!
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:58 AM
9

Fixed, thanks!
/r/seduction01/10/12 02:58 AM
1

Made it more clear, sorry about that!
/r/seduction01/10/12 02:07 AM
19

Just sit down and start talking from the start of the italicized section. No need for "hello," "excuse me," or anything else.
/r/seduction01/10/12 01:03 AM
2

I think that's very unlikely. I heard the story originally from my anthropology 101 professor. This was at a small commuter college in a small city. She was speaking of her first hand experience. Who knows, though!
/r/seduction01/10/12 12:42 AM
1

Well, I think it's about time we got this sorted out. I've noticed on most of my main posts, and many of my replies, you've voiced an opposing opinion. And I'm almost positive I've done the same to your comments. So... I think you'll agree that you do need experience to make sense of something. I can't count the number of times someone older than me has told me something, I laughed at it and thought it was nonsense, then when I reached a similar age, I realized it was actually spot on. An exampl…
/r/seduction30/09/12 08:38 PM
1

Nothing but satisfy my curiosity.
/r/seduction30/09/12 07:44 PM
1

How often do you go out?
/r/seduction30/09/12 06:46 PM
3

Why did you go to a prostitute? Because you couldn't stand the thought of being a virgin. You cannot escape biology. You can tell yourself you enjoy reading books, watching movies and browsing the internet on the weekends. But if that was true, you wouldn't be posting on here. Stop deluding yourself.
/r/seduction30/09/12 05:28 PM
2

Ah, self-delusional. ;)
/r/seduction30/09/12 05:17 PM
1

So why are you here?
/r/seduction30/09/12 05:15 PM
1

Let me tell you this: The life you live is constant perpetual pain, and it will never go away. You get small amounts of enjoyment out of your lifestyle, but never permanent, long-term satisfaction. No matter what, you'll constantly be reminded, every single day, that you have the potential to be exponentially greater than you are right now. This will never go away in your current lifestyle. So you are choosing perpetual and endless pain. The alternative: A lifestyle where every day, you're movin…
/r/seduction30/09/12 05:11 PM
1

I have no clue what you mean by that.
/r/seduction30/09/12 05:00 PM
1

You're allowing your past to govern your present. Every moment that passes, you die, and are reborn into the present to do whatever the hell you feel like doing. The only one who holds you to your past is you. So lose your attachment to the past. Use it as a reference point and nothing else (ex: in the past, I did this and got X result. I want Y result, so I'll change what I do in the present). Stop thinking things like "used to be" and "done better". There's no such thing. There is literally no…
/r/seduction30/09/12 04:59 PM
2

Well, let me start out by saying this – it's a TON of work. It's a journey. I'll tell you this, I've been deeply entrenched in seduction for years now, and I'm not yet where I've always wanted to be. But I'm very close. I joined the pick-up community looking to get laid. And instead I found enlightenment. Pickup is the best way I've found—bar none—to delve into the human experience. What makes it all tick. What is society. Why do I feel the way I feel. What makes me do this. Why did I react that…
/r/seduction30/09/12 04:55 PM
3

For me, once I'm "out", it's like I've hit a reset button. I have to start over again. I can try pumping myself up throughout the day, but I'll still be starting from square one at the beginning of the night. Fortunately, the only thing that gets me into my zone is approaching girls when my mind and body scream, "NO YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Who's dumb now? ;)
/r/seduction30/09/12 01:48 AM
5

Haha – no, I meant, the way you described it feels similar to how I would describe it. And I'm not trying to get you to do anything. ;)
/r/seduction28/09/12 09:34 PM
3

Feels similar to me.
/r/seduction28/09/12 09:24 PM
2

I think that's very likely, although I really have no clue how any of this works... just a million theories, give or take.
/r/seduction28/09/12 09:09 PM
1

Try it – try tapping your toe, then try drawing with your fingers. You tell me!
/r/seduction28/09/12 09:05 PM
9

I'm torn. I remember once I heard, "all rules in seduction are made to be broken." That has rang true time and time again. I can't count the amount of times I did something I thought was 100% against what I should've done in regard to seduction, yet it ended up working in my favor. I've also realized something else – despite my constant striving to put myself above fate, it doesn't always work that way. So now I've changed course. Now I play along with fate. I do everything on my end to make sur…
/r/seduction28/09/12 09:04 PM
6

Absolutely. My life took off when I realized this. It's funny – now people tell me I have balls to do what I do, go up to girls and grab them right off the bat (a strategy that doesn't always work, by the way). But really, it's because I'm a huge pussy. If I don't escalate the second I have the thought, I never do. Well, can't say never... working on that. ;)
/r/seduction28/09/12 05:22 PM
4

Absolutely. You still need to make things happen for yourself (and in these stories, the approach came before patience, remember that). But patience is a form of surrender to life and fate. You say, "look, I'm willing to put myself out there," and then you see what life spits out. Then you deal with that.
/r/seduction28/09/12 05:20 PM
13

Patience always works out. That doesn't mean you always get the girl. Patience is a mental state... how you feel in the moment. Picture how you feel when you say the word. It's like a mountain. Immovable, calm, relaxed... There's a big difference between being patient and waiting with anxiety. Anxiety reveals itself with toe tapping, fidgeting, elevated heart rate, etc. Patience is the opposite. Patience is like waiting, but without the waiting. Waiting is anxiously anticipating something in the…
/r/seduction28/09/12 05:19 PM
18

Choice two is to ACT when you feel EA hit. Use EA as a CUE. Not sure when you should try and touch her leg or put your arm around her? When you get the feelings of EA. Do it THEN. The key, I believe, is to use it as your cue to man the fuck up. So next time you get those feelings in your gut while your chatting it up with a cute girl, remember they signify its time to make a choice. Train yourself to make the right one, make it your catalyst. Absolutely golden – this isn't "inner game circle jer…
/r/seduction28/09/12 02:02 PM
1

So your boundaries and sense of respectability come externally, from the woman? Confidence is not found in expecting other people to conform to the limited worldview you've set up. Confidence is found in internal changes, which guarantee you retain control of yourself regardless of what's going on in the external world.
/r/seduction28/09/12 01:59 PM
13

What is the past? It's a figment if your imagination. It's not real. You may think, "if I go up to her, she'll remember she rejected me." And because you go up to her with that attitude, she'll react exactly how you expect. Instead, realize your slate is wiped clean every second that passes. You are not your past. Use your past as a reference sheet, but don't attach your "personality," your SELF to your past.
/r/seduction28/09/12 12:33 AM
3

Good shit – would love to hear some insights you've gained yourself along the way.
/r/seduction28/09/12 12:30 AM
30

This is a self-love issue. Groucho Marx said it best: "PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER". When you're chasing the girl, she doesn't like you, so you're trying to win her. But then when she likes you, you think "how could any girl like me?" And she loses her value. This will happen with any and every girl until you diagnose the issue. This is why they say you can't love someone until you love yourself. And you can't be lo…
/r/seduction27/09/12 04:31 AM
3

Why don't you try employing a bit of silence? You like talking, so do we all. And that's why she's talking over you. So listen. And listen some more. And when she stops talking and it gets awkward, look her in the eyes, look at her lips, then back to her eyes. Let her talk, who cares? Talking is overrated.
/r/seduction27/09/12 04:26 AM
2

Why do you need to prove yourself to a girl? DHV's are a losing battle.
/r/seduction27/09/12 03:54 AM
3

Sure – you're a different person. Doesn't mean you have to live his life, just observe what he does and decide how you—under your value system—will choose to use it.
/r/seduction24/09/12 03:06 AM
14

So what's he supposed to do? The issue is, once you've "got it," it's hard to turn off. Why? Because "getting it" is a personality shift. When you've got it, you've got it. Great news for everyone on this board. So you might not be able to beat this guy – NOW. But you can learn from him. I once had a friend who would hit the bars with me. He was a massive foreign ex-military guy. The most badass dude I've ever known. Suffice to say, I could get away with doing anything in a bar with him around. …
/r/seduction24/09/12 02:45 AM
1

No, it's what its always been. The reason "seduction" and "pickup" exists is to help men get over their insecurities. If we didn't have insecurities, we wouldn't need pickup. Everything in pickup is about dissolving insecurities.
/r/seduction23/09/12 08:14 AM
4

No offense to you, OP, but can we have less of these kinds of posts on seddit? People come here because they are going out, looking to approach women. So these people come here and see posts like this...it kind of kills the positive vibe. There should be a separate subreddit for people trying to overcome their insecurities. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Positive vibe? That sounds awful saccharine sweet. The world does not consist of positive vibes – you have to create those yourself. If a reddit post takes …
/r/seduction22/09/12 05:31 PM
7

Apparently not, because you left a comment.
/r/seduction22/09/12 05:29 PM
1

Amazing. Thank you.
/r/seduction22/09/12 05:45 AM
1

This is amazing, thank you for posting. Can I ask, how old is he?
/r/seduction22/09/12 04:48 AM
1

Haha, man – you'll see. he's rich and has gotten laid many many times Well, exactly!
/r/seduction22/09/12 03:34 AM
8

I'm going to a party, where there is a hot tub and I will be asked if I want to go in. I will not under any circumstances go in. Then don't. And continue to live a life of mediocrity, just like almost every other guy in the world. What do you want? You're on /r/seduction – you want SOMETHING. Women are attracted to confidence. It's a vague and obscure "one-size-fits-all" word. But what it means is you value your own opinion of yourself over everything. Women don't care about what you look like –…
/r/seduction21/09/12 09:27 PM
15

Like, "look west and see the sun set." You wouldn't say, "that's complete bs and is untestable." You would simply look west and see the sun set. That's what the book is like. – What are you looking to do, find the truth, or prove to people logically you're correct? I know how fun that is – I spent countless hours in facebook arguments. Turned out I was ignorant and preventing myself from experiencing happiness, all under the guise of being "rational." By searching for approval from others, under…
/r/seduction20/09/12 01:16 AM
27

A hardcore christian could say, "I read 'the greatest show on earth' and stopped reading it because I honestly think it is BS." What am I trying to say here? Be careful skepticism doesn't limit you as much as religion limits the fundamentalist. You say the book doesn't make sense from a scientific or objective point of view. Is that just what you're saying, or is that what you've deduced by using the scientific method on the book's content? The reality is, the book doesn't even offer anything th…
/r/seduction19/09/12 11:07 PM
2

Just bought it, thanks for the suggestion! Completely agree with your last sentence.
/r/seduction19/09/12 07:00 PM
8

Read the "Power of Now," changed my life – loved it. I've been hesitant to pick up "A New Earth", though, because I heard it was mainly the same stuff in Power of Now with a different title. Is it different enough that I should check it out?
/r/seduction19/09/12 06:53 PM
5

It's because we all came here looking to get laid, but we found enlightenment instead.
/r/seduction19/09/12 12:42 AM
0

Your personal observation is biased and is not in touch with reality.
/r/seduction18/09/12 06:33 PM
5

Be honest. You had a reason for saying 24, tell her.
/r/seduction16/09/12 03:02 AM
1

No seduction, do what's fun for you, share the fun with those around you.
/r/seduction16/09/12 02:53 AM
8

Now you've reached the root of the problem – nothing matters but what you think of yourself internally.
/r/seduction11/09/12 05:37 PM
3

No, because then you conveniently think you have an excuse: "I'm unattractive so I don't have to lead things the entire time because I wouldn't get anything anyways." It's the same problem.
/r/seduction11/09/12 05:34 PM
1

Actually, being interesting has nothing to do with you. It has to do with realizing what people want: to be heard. Every human being wants to be heard, but no one ever is because we're all so damn busy talking about ourselves. That's the secret, to actually listen. Also, the top post is right.
/r/seduction07/09/12 02:13 PM
13

I was sleepy, ready for bed, and unexpecting that my flirting would get her to walk over to my apartment at 2:30 . Expect it from now on. She was calling me little boy, saying she'd teach me how to fuck, dirty talking that just made me feel fragile and unconfident. That's actually pretty sexy. Realize you took it as an insult to your ego. But this is what girls do. They test. They test, test, test, test, test, test, test, test. There is NEVER relief from a woman's test. If you're in pickup tryin…
/r/seduction06/09/12 09:41 PM
1

What if both of you have the same fear?
/r/seduction06/09/12 06:19 PM
4

It's not shit, it can be very useful depending on where you're at. But Barncore is absolutely right. By copying mannerisms, you're showing the world just how submissive you actually are. Determine what feels right to you in a situation, then do that.
/r/seduction06/09/12 06:15 PM
3

The key is to realize that "being yourself" means BEING WHO YOU WANT TO BE. There is no YOU – there is no strict guideline that defines who you can or can't be. There is only you giving yourself a strict guideline! You have no "base personality." She is seeing the REAL YOU, because you can't be anything but the real you! If you don't like how you're perceiving the "real you," simply change your thoughts and watch how the world molds to your new perception.
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:08 AM
0

Women don't remember the past. She doesn't see you as "this sarcastic flirtatious guy from class." That's what YOU see her as seeing you as. I know, a mouthful, but read it until it sinks in. YOU are the one limiting who you are. You can easily be the needy, boring nice guy. Or you can be the suave sex master. Or you can be the guy who has his life under wraps and is absolute relationship material. It's all up to you. Don't let the past govern who you are NOW. If you want to be someone else, the…
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:06 AM
1

You don't have to change yourself at all. You only have to remember who you really are. Just Be Yourself
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:53 AM
2

I think seduction has always been open to both men and women throughout history, just the number of men doing it was extremely small. There have always been great seducers of both genders.
/r/seduction05/09/12 07:04 PM
2

Great post. Confidence is impossible when you're "in your head."
/r/seduction04/09/12 09:49 PM
5

Remember the sole purpose of techniques is to create internal change. By using a technique, you can do something you normally wouldn't be able to do (e.g., openers allow you to start a conversation with a girl out of the blue, something 99% of men don't know how to do). But techniques aren't everything. Use a technique, learn from it, change internally. And by "change," I mean further dissolve the social matrix. You never need to change, you simply need to remember what it's like to be yourself.
/r/seduction04/09/12 03:23 AM
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Being "alpha" has nothing to do with being a douche. In fact, you can track your progress – if you feel like a douche when you think you're being "alpha," you're not being "alpha." Reason why I keep putting that in quotes is the concept comes back to bite us. Out on the town, we're always thinking "am I being 'alpha' right now?" It's ridiculous. It's really about being a man with a purpose. Someone who has defined what they want in life, has absolute iron integrity and has boundaries for those h…
/r/seduction04/09/12 01:23 AM
1

So you are? The friendzone is caused by her wanting sex when you don't. You want to hold hands, kiss and talk to her all night long. Meanwhile, she wants someone who will fuck her senseless AND hold hands, kiss and talk. If you only want to do one of those things, you are incompatible with her. The reason why I ask if you are afraid of sexual rejection, is because if you are, it may be preventing you from escalating. This would land you right in the friend zone, over and over again. Also, there'…
/r/seduction03/09/12 05:31 PM
1

Hey, I get asked the same questions fairly often. No problem with that, it's good news because it means we—as humans—are all the same. So I put up an archive with a bunch of Q&A. I think there are some articles on there that may answer your question. Take a look at these: • Why Looks Don't Matter • Q&A: Ugliness • Q&A: I have no social value Let me know if they help. If you still need some advice, hit me up here on reddit or through the contact form on the archive site.
/r/seduction03/09/12 05:28 PM
0

Are you afraid of sexual rejection?
/r/seduction02/09/12 06:15 AM
0

What about sexual rejection?
/r/seduction02/09/12 06:07 AM
1

"trying" is failure.
/r/seduction01/09/12 04:58 PM
2

You're one of the lucky ones. It's easy to wish you were a "natural" – someone who's never had any problems with women. But to wish that is to wish a life of mediocrity. To reach the highest levels, we need to come from the lowest. It's Newton's law – everything has an equal and opposite reaction. Coming from a point of absolute desperation, where, due to how we've created our societal matrix, doing what we're biologically programmed to do is impossible, this is the edge of freedom. You are so i…
/r/seduction01/09/12 03:54 PM
8

No, you succeeded. And that's all there is to it. Do you realize how few men ever walk up to a girl and even say "hi"? The number is very small. By simply going out with that intention, you've already taken a massive leap forward. In seduction, there are no backwards steps. There is no possibility of failure. YOU CAN'T FAIL. As you long as you put yourself out there, like you just did, you'll continue to get better, and better, and better. It happens while you're not aware of it, really. You thi…
/r/seduction01/09/12 03:51 PM
7

Why do you subscribe to Forever Alone? Is that really what you label yourself? If so, why would you be anything BUT forever alone? Think of how impossible it is for your life to change if you don't change your own opinions of yourself. No one else is going to do it – no one else can. How can you expect your life to change if you give yourself a rigorous label that literally says, "I'll be alone forever"? I'll make the fat joke about myself before anybody else has the chance to. You are pitying y…
/r/seduction31/08/12 03:07 PM
28

You don't wish you took the blue pill. You wish you could go into a reality where the "blue pill" is exactly how you think it is. Life's better now. Make of it what you want. Don't you realize? You have that power. Why wish your life could be anything other than what it is? If you want something different, simply reshape your life to match what you want. You've already done it once. Why does anyone live a life they are unsatisfied with? We have no trust. Trust in life. We feel like we are govern…
/r/seduction31/08/12 03:34 AM
1

LOL. You are funny man, I just laughed at this. What the fuck is the point of being funny anyway? As someone who is "naturally funny," it's held me back plenty of times. Right now you think if you were funny, you'd have it made. Not true. Humor is an asset but so are a million other things. Not to mention girls laugh so easily you don't even need to worry about being funny to "be funny." Just be secure about yourself.
/r/seduction30/08/12 02:51 PM
2

Hahaha, happens to me man, only difference is hardcore diarrhea and a fucking dry mouth. Just laugh at it. You're nervous, it's a feeling you've gotta get used to.
/r/seduction30/08/12 02:45 PM
2

Most people start out learning the "basics," then applying that when they go out. I recommend against that. Because many of what's taught in the seduction community is actually harmful in the long-term. By harmful, I mean it's actually a roadblock in getting to "the next level." So what would I recommend tonight? Doing everything you want to do. Never holding yourself back. If you get there and want to talk to a girl, walk up and talk to her. If you want to ask the bartender how his night's been…
/r/seduction29/08/12 03:50 PM
11

UNBELIEVABLE. Seriously. Like, you literally can't believe how amazing until you try going out with a hot wing woman.
/r/seduction28/08/12 04:35 AM
8

And I will push people out of The way to get what I want. This is the most difficult way to get what you want.
/r/seduction27/08/12 03:54 PM
0

As if that could possibly be a bad thing.
/r/seduction24/08/12 09:17 PM
-1

What's wrong with sleeping with someone on the first date?
/r/seduction24/08/12 08:48 PM
0

You're a good writer. Fuck the mechanics – writing is about saying what you want to say, which you did perfectly. Write more shit and make it longer, I enjoy reading it. And by the way, this dude is a fucking pro – that eye contact thing is pretty fucking rare. Because it seems awkward. Holding eye contact is pretty unnatural because for guys, we usually just automatically look away when a girl holds eye contact. And when it's just a guy and a girl alone, guys will rarely be okay with holding ey…
/r/seduction24/08/12 08:47 PM
24

L'esprit de l'escalier, the wit of the staircase. Looking back, you'll always know something you "could've" said that would've been better. Or would it have been? At some point you need to stop fucking around with playful banter and get down to the fucking point. You're male, she's female – you both want to fuck already, why waste all this time on banter? Honesty is the absolute best way to "keep your power." "Are you trying to fuck me?" "Yes" You basically said this, but like you said, you "put…
/r/seduction24/08/12 07:50 PM
4

"Change your life" is an understatement. Get ready.
/r/seduction24/08/12 05:08 PM
1

Actually, calling you "creepy" often means she's getting turned the fuck on but thinks she shouldn't be. So she escapes. Creepiness is about sexual tension. In some cases, it's "taking it too far," which really means you've escalated the tension more than what was "appropriate" at the time. e.g. she was getting attracted to you and didn't want to be. Could be because you're not "her type," cause she has a boyfriend, cause her friends were all around... limitless reasons. Don't let it get to you.
/r/seduction24/08/12 03:42 PM
2

You never take steps back as long as your putting yourself out there. Never. So you took three steps forward. Stop being scared of "creepy" and see it for what it is -- a good thing. Some girls will like you, some won't. By being "creepy," you only leave the door open for two possibilities: 1) she thinks you're creepy 2) she gets fucking turned on Here's what "creepy" means -- that you're turning her on and she doesn't like it. Happens all the time at bars. Don't worry about it. Being creepy is …
/r/seduction24/08/12 01:35 PM
0

This is amazing. I'm seriously mind blown by the thoughts you have. Please keep 'em coming! Learning a lot and it's damn entertaining...
/r/seduction24/08/12 01:20 PM
8

Let's flip this around and think about how people on this subreddit label women as "HBs" and then assign them a numerical value which evaluates how attracted an individual is to that person. Assume all women think exactly the same as men?
/r/seduction24/08/12 02:22 AM
11

r/Seduction is such a great thing because it's straying far away from "pick-up" companies. The concept of a "bootcamp" is flawed to its very core. People are starting to realize this. They're also starting to realize that 99% of "pick-up" is actually internet marketing.
/r/seduction23/08/12 10:51 PM
2

There's plenty off really good looking guys who are terrible with women. ABSOLUTELY. And this may be the biggest secret held back from those who view themselves as "unattractive."
/r/seduction23/08/12 10:48 PM
2

Explain.
/r/seduction23/08/12 10:23 PM
54

There are two types of people who say "Looks Matter." People who already view themselves as attractive. They see the success they get, say "damn, I'm lucky I'm attractive." People who view themselves as unattractive, experience little to no beginning success, and decide it's impossible to move forward without good looks. So who says "looks don't count?" The people who have done the work. The people who have done what this community is actually built around: going out, repeatedly, and using a sci…
/r/seduction23/08/12 08:44 PM
1

Are you INSANE man?! Stop asking questions and start living! What the fuck do you want? Get it! Who cares if you "weird her out?" You're only going to weird her out if you weird your own self out. If you don't want to be weird, then stop calling yourself weird when you do something "weird." It's that simple. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. That's life – not your social bubble construction you've created for yourself.
/r/seduction23/08/12 07:32 PM
13

Luckily that doesn't affect the quality of information. ;)
/r/seduction23/08/12 06:45 PM
5

You're right. I wouldn't be surprised if they do expect that. Think of most dudes. Course it's not our fault as men... the media has brainwashed us into becoming emasculated nice guys who don't want sex. But once we're aware of the matrix, continuing to exist in it is a choice.
/r/seduction23/08/12 06:45 PM
1

You are your only enemy. So the question is, what are you like? I know for me, I get fucking scared and nervous to escalate the longer I take. That's why I escalate right off the bat now. Grab a girl around the waist immediately. Grab her hand. Touch the small of her back. Anything, right within the first 15 seconds. But it's not for her. It's for me. I know that if I don't break my comfort zone bubble, I'll be in it all night and it'll fuck me up. So I just break it right off the bat. It's funn…
/r/seduction23/08/12 04:42 PM
1

Well it is "pretty obvious," which is why I ask. If you wanted her, why are you waiting for her to give you the green light she's never going to give you? ("I want you to fuck me right here, right now, immediately") Sometimes we're afraid of what we say we want. But maybe in your case, you're afraid of "fucking up with this girl." So you're probably going to. Who cares? Life goes on. Funny enough, the only thing that would fuck it up with this girl is to continue doing what you're doing. That is…
/r/seduction23/08/12 04:34 PM
36

It's because "seddit" changes lives. Is it any wonder people keep coming back?
/r/seduction23/08/12 03:44 PM
1

Oh god I love this community. So amazing to see where I came from and where I am now. It's not "pick-up," it's massive and total life transformation. She's not "coming onto you." She wants you to fuck her silly. Now what do you want?
/r/seduction23/08/12 03:43 PM
28

Nah man, it does neither. Don't take what they say at face value. Realize you do this exact thing all the time. We even have a name for it, "false time constraint." She's testing to see if it'll upset you. And it does. She was testing to weed out guys who get upset by that kind of thing. And you did. Just say, "okay," then go to the date as if she never texted you in the first place. Literally delete it from your mind. It's just a date as always. Getting her to show up is basically the entire ba…
/r/seduction23/08/12 03:40 PM
1

Women lean on men emotionally. That's how it works. Here's how it goes: You put your arm on her thigh. She looks to YOU to figure out how to react. If you're reacting awkwardly to it, she realizes it's okay to act awkward about it. But if you act like nothing's wrong and everything's normal, she's not going to be the one to object. You set the standard. If you object, she objects. If you don't, she doesn't. So don't worry about her, worry about you. How do you feel about what's going on? Not wha…
/r/seduction23/08/12 03:06 PM
2

Don't get too caught up in "what do I do next." Remember that male/female sexuality happens completely naturally. There's nothing specific you need to do besides simply enjoy the interaction. That being said, if in your head you think, "I want this to go somewhere," realize it's up to you to make that happen. And also realize that you can make that happen any way, shape or form you'd like. We sometimes think we have to do things how everyone else did. If this entire community advocates "kino" by…
/r/seduction23/08/12 02:15 PM
2

Join something with other people. Yoga, ballroom dancing, improv. It can seem scary, but it's a fantastic way to meet people and will get you out of your comfort zone.
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:47 PM
1

Two things: 1) like yourself. You may not based on the content of your op. Most people don't. But why would someone else like you if you don't like yourself? 2) listen. There's nothing you need to DO. People think they need to be "interesting" so they can have all kinds of things to talk about. But everyone feels that way, so the key is to let people do what they want and listen to them talk. Pick up the book "just listen."
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:45 PM
1

Only you know how to deal with your behavioral issues. Be honest with yourself and dig deep: what do you really want? And what fears do you have that are stopping you? Then address the fears and watch as you get what you want.
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:41 PM
4

instead of changing yourself, change your belief. that is exactly what I said... Do you mean what you said? Just clarifying. Because I didn't say that. In fact, changing your belief is literally changing yourself – that's the entire point. Most people think the "law of attraction" is magic. And no one can fault them for that, because the media has done so well at promoting it as a "magic pill" to cash in on the general public's discontent with modern day living. People think, "if that were real,…
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:14 PM
0

No, actually. That sentence you wrote is not insulting or attacking in any way either. I didn't say they are the #1 determining factor. I said looks matter because evolution. You can try and flip the script on me all you want by stating that I'm avoiding something, while you outright ignore years of compiled evidence and scientific studies that refute your short-term motivational shenanigans, but that doesn't change what is and what isn't there. Try again. I never said anything about the validit…
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:06 PM
1

Neither. I'm asking from a practical standpoint. What is "confidence"? What mechanics are at work that cause it? What starts the process, what keeps it going, why does confidence come and go... That's what I want to know. Dissecting the "concept" to its base level, in order to get some practical insight from it.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:00 PM
1

Dammit. ;)
/r/seduction22/08/12 01:20 PM
0

What I said is not an insult or an attack.
/r/seduction22/08/12 04:00 AM
1

That was beautiful.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:52 AM
1

Maybe you should read "Old Yeller." ;)
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:34 AM
1

Disagreement is always good.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:33 AM
1

Rockstars from the 80's, mainly. Focus on their vibe, how they hold themselves, not on anything else.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:33 AM
1

How is that a contradiction?
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:32 AM
1

Possibly, although I feel "confidence" is a blanket term with little to no practicality.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:32 AM
1

I actually haven't. That being said, a huge number of us are actually narcissist, and it's very likely someone who calls another "narcissist" is, themselves, a narcissist.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:31 AM
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That is clearly the belief preventing you from thinking you're attractive. And if you think about it, you'll see this to be true. Even on days when you look good, you still say, "yeah, but I'm short." Concentrate on how you feel when you go out. When a woman rejects you, do you think "if I was only taller"? How do you feel in interactions? Is your height in the background, no matter what? This is clearly affecting your self-image, which is clearly affecting every interaction you're in. I feel fo…
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:31 AM
1

If that's what you think.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:25 AM
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It's easy to say that and avoid introspection. I understand. But life is found underneath the surface.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:24 AM
1

Sometimes what sounds "too good to be true," is true.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:24 AM
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with being rational and open minded. As far as life philosophy goes, one of skepticism and rationality will lead to a much higher level of experience than a life led by dogma or religion designed to control. But it's still a belief system. And in many ways, skepticism can be just as limiting as religion. In fact, it can be even more limiting because it's justified by the outside world. Science and skepticism are the eternal "right." But it accounts for very littl…
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:23 AM
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With that said, I would add that it's often easier to change one's behaviors than change one's beliefs, despite the fact that it would "seem" otherwise. YMMV. Absolutely. In theory, instant belief change is possible. I'm not even close to that stage, though, and I realize just how difficult it is to escape societies chains. But it's possible. And isn't that amazing?
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:15 AM
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You're not incorrect. You're actually correct. To you. See, you have the belief that you can't compete in a club. So you can't. Do you think you would be able to? Do you think you could have your current mindset, go into a club and thrive? Go into a club and "win" over "tanned muscular guys?" Now THAT would be magic. Not the reconstructing of beliefs, but actually getting results when your entire brain is wired against success. That would be magic. But it doesn't happen.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:12 AM
2

What's "feel-good wishful thinking" about it? Is it possible that something may sound "too good to be true," preventing people from latching on the idea, yet in it is true? Wouldn't that be a shame?
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:10 AM
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You only need to learn from your own mistakes if you refuse to learn from those who have gone before you.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:09 AM
2

What did you get caught on? I'd like to explain it using different terms, if you'd let me.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:08 AM
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Call it something else then, no problem. What I say is not a hypothesis. It is nothing more than an observation of natural processes which are already at work. It is not "evolutionary psychology" which teaches you why you can get women if you're an "alpha male." It's simple observation. Saying "pseudo-psychological" does two things for you – makes you appear rational in front of everyone, and enables you to avoid doing any restricting of your beliefs, which is exactly what you want to avoid. Bec…
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:08 AM
2

if you're in one of the most famous rock bands of all time and rich. This is the all-important concept. There is an IF. Looks don't matter. You can write it off as "most famous rock bands of all time and rich" if you want, but it seems more productive to say, "why do those variables cancel out looks?" Clearly there are more important factors then looks. So the question is, how do we get these factors, and how much do we need? And then the question is, is it really fame and money that cause attra…
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:03 AM
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Nope. Read again – if you still feel that way, let me know why. Would love to clarify it.
/r/seduction22/08/12 03:00 AM
2

I am.
/r/seduction21/08/12 01:45 PM
1

What is confidence?
/r/seduction21/08/12 01:32 PM
1

Wish that were true. Why are you choosing to be creepy.
/r/seduction21/08/12 01:32 PM
1

That's the point. Attraction is nothing but a definition, defined by you.
/r/seduction20/08/12 09:57 PM
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But you are going overboard with that 500 pound, acne-ridden, unwashed guy. I feel that it encourages guys to not working at themselves at all and focus on you just have gotta belieeeve. It'd be much more difficult for a 500 pound, acne-ridden, unwashed guy to restructure his belief system, so he believes he is attractive, than if he simply went to the gym and matched societies definition of attractive. "Belief" sounds easy, because it's presented that way through the media, thanks to certain se…
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:43 PM
1

That's what you think.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:38 PM
1

Replace it with another word then.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:35 PM
1

Do you feel unattractive? If so, why? What is your basis for feeling unattractive? (aka, brad pitt has great hair, I'm balding at 20, brad pitt is attractive therefore I must be unattractive)
/r/seduction20/08/12 03:30 AM
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Don't be surprised when you're proven right by reality.
/r/seduction20/08/12 03:26 AM
1

Absolutely.
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:57 AM
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Ah, YES! Man, I was this close to including "what about shy girls?", but didn't because it took up a lot of space. One thing, especially with girls, is they can be shy and still believe they are attractive. This very rarely happens with men, as "outgoing" is generally viewed as an attractive trait (which, by the way, has nothing to do with physical looks). Also, this brings up other issues. Because we're broadcasting lots of signals – not just attractiveness. For example, you could meet a shy gi…
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:57 AM
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No, you wouldn't be. Your anxiety is caused by a personal opinion, which means you have complete control. You realize this?
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:39 AM
1

So you have, then?
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:39 AM
1

What sounds unbelievable about what I've written?
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:10 AM
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by having excellent game What does excellent game mean to you? Is it a bunch of clever things to say? By choosing Stephen Tyler as an example Not an example, a reminder that looks will neither make or break your chances at seduction success. Although he's also a good example, listing him as an example is a bad idea, as it makes people think "well, then you need to be rich and famous," while disregarding everything else mentioned.
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:08 AM
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Good. Sometimes we say "I love my life," but we really think "I hate my life," underneath a false sense of bravado. Glad you've found what works for you.
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:07 AM
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What about his looks? ;) EDIT: Just realized you posted the first comment in this thread. So you didn't even read it?
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:06 AM
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What are the others?
/r/seduction20/08/12 01:02 AM
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I'd really like to believe in that, keyword believe... Well you can, if you want. How are you doing, by the way?
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:52 AM
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No, you're not dumb. Just one question – why 200%?
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:51 AM
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but it's a way of reconciling the fact that your facial attractive matters, but not nearly as much as you think. instead of worrying about how you look, why not try to improve the other three components? (ie body, personality, and prowess) This is exactly what I'm talking about. By altering the scale you use to judge yourself, you can convince yourself you are attractive, at which point you'll start broadcasting the signal of being attractive.
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:50 AM
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One major flaw: what about looks that actively influence interactions in a bad way? Like a guy who is missing 5 of his front teeth? Do you think a girl would like to kiss him because his game is smooth? Not because of his "game." Because of him as an individual. I'd go as far as suggesting his missing teeth would give him an advantage.
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:48 AM
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You're trying to undermine everything evolution has shown us about sexual attraction on the basis that a rich rockstar can get laid? What has evolution shown us about sexual attraction? And no, that's not the point. The seduction community says "looks matter." Then you show a rockstar and they say, "Oh, well of course they don't matter for a rockstar!" But why? That's the point. And I think he has a much stronger pull with the general female population than our friend Tyler does. Not sure where …
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:45 AM
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Did you read it?
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:40 AM
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You know exactly what aspect of your personality makes people perceive you as someone who thinks they're better than everyone else. First, realize this: you project everything. You hide nothing. You may think you can hide things since people aren’t picking up on them. But that’s simply because they aren’t tuning into the wavelength you’re broadcasting, not that you aren’t broadcasting anything. People are picking up on something you're broadcasting, what is it? The question is, would you prefer …
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:38 AM
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What are these laws, and where did you learn them?
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:36 AM
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"These guys" are just like you. Aka, human beings with their own insecurities and issues. You are placing guys at a club on a pedestal. You're afraid of them. That makes you human. No problem. That being said, your fear of men is holding you back from success with women. Have you ever gone to a club, met a girl you really liked, the girl was really into you, then a tanner muscular guy came up and swooped her away from you easily?
/r/seduction20/08/12 12:35 AM
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Sounds like you enjoy the cocky aspect of your personality. So why is something you like preventing you from getting the better looking girls?
/r/seduction19/08/12 11:49 PM
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But this will be very, very difficult to believe. In society, we’ve repeatedly heard only thin people who smell good and have clear skin are attractive. So in order to fully believe you could be the opposite and still be attractive, you would need to utterly destroy all your beliefs and rebuild them from the ground up.
/r/seduction19/08/12 11:48 PM
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Well I am. The attitudes we have towards sex and relationships in society are very harmful. It's those attitudes which lead to manipulation and dishonesty. Someone who lies to themselves to become attractive is only hurting themselves, yet they don't see it that way because they've been taught the exact opposite by the media. I'm sympathetic towards that.
/r/seduction19/08/12 11:47 PM
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Is cockiness the real issue?
/r/seduction19/08/12 11:29 PM
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Yes.
/r/seduction19/08/12 10:47 PM
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I'm not justifying it, just stating how the process works -- how there is no manipulation other than self-manipulation in seduction. Which is why dishonesty is harmful to both parties.
/r/seduction19/08/12 10:15 PM
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We actually agree completely. Read what I posted.
/r/seduction19/08/12 09:52 PM
0

Same concept applies, replace "racecar driver" with "someone who wants to be in a long term relationship."
/r/seduction19/08/12 08:46 PM
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But you do want it some times. I'm talking about men who are scared of sex, so as a result never actually want it. They never push for sex because although they think they want it, they're more scared of the consequences than what they perceive as potential benefits. This is due to how we tie sex with social worth.
/r/seduction19/08/12 05:53 PM
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No, they're manipulating and lying to themselves, enabling them to get the girl they want. If you have the belief, "girls only like confident men who can drive racecars," then you'll define your own version of attractive as "confident and racecar driver." Therefore, you'll never be attractive until you meet your own definition. But you could go up to a girl and say, "Hi, I'm a racecar driver," even if you weren't. Now you can meet your own definition of attractive, allowing you put out an attrac…
/r/seduction19/08/12 05:44 PM
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One of the techniques that just kills me regarding PUA is the negging. Really? You have to passive-aggressively insult a girl, who probably has self-esteem issues anyway, in order to make her lower her self-esteem some more? This is, hands down, the biggest misconception women (and everyone else not actively involved in the community) has: that pickup techniques and "tricks" are meant to manipulate women. That manipulation is what "pickup" is all about. Here's the actual truth: Pickup techniques…
/r/seduction18/08/12 01:59 AM
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Can I ask you how your first time was? Uncomfortable?
/r/seduction17/08/12 07:49 PM
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Just thought I'd pitch in here – when reading the post, focus less on the technicalities and more on the mindset. Here's what I mean: By simply thinking "there is a secret society and I'm in it," you put yourself in it. You've made it real in your mind and accepted it, now you'll make it real and put it into reality. It's not so much about what you do, it's more about accepting that this thing exists. If you do that, it does. Here's the mindset you should get from all of this: I make the rules. …
/r/seduction16/08/12 09:23 PM
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LOL. God this is funny. Socially acceptable "pickup" advice. Making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's on everything that could potentially offend anyone. "GQ's Guide to Pickup" 700 words that will do absolutely nothing to improve your life. Problem isn't that it fails to list "techniques," it actually has okay "openers" (aka my favorite, "hi"). But it fails to mention that picking up women has nothing to do with techniques or what you say, and has everything to do with transforming your enti…
/r/seduction15/08/12 10:38 PM
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Let me tell you something crazy: The friendzone isn't her, it's YOU. That's right. A girl never puts you in the friendzone. You put yourself in the friendzone. Now before you go inside your head and think, "YES! This means I can get my one-itis!", it doesn't. And with about 50% of the girls I'm friends with I end up hooking up with them/having sex with them anyway even after I think I was friend-zoned. See, it's you, not her. Here's a tip: forget the entire concept of the "friendzone." Just dele…
/r/seduction15/08/12 10:30 PM
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Women in the past have told me that they are not an issue, however, I am really starting to think that they are hindering my dating life and feel that I'm being judged by their appearance. Walaah! You already know this, but the problem isn't your teeth, it's your attitude about your teeth. Fix that and you could have dentures from 1850 and get laid like a rockstar.
/r/seduction15/08/12 10:15 PM
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This is an over-complication.
/r/seduction15/08/12 01:12 AM
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It's only a problem if it's preventing you from getting where you want to go. What you want most is a woman's affection. You don't realize it, but you DO want sex. You prove this by looking at porn 5-6 times a week (and let's face it, you probably do it more than that, you just don't want to say). The reason why you want cuddling, kissing and hand holding is because you can't get that from porn. But you can get "sex" from porn. That's why you don't want it with a girl – not because you're gay, b…
/r/seduction14/08/12 09:46 PM
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That's natural. What's unnatural is thinking a human being could ever want to "be" one unchanging career for their entire life. Luckily that's exactly how we've built our society...
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:07 PM
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You're not gay. But how often do you look at porn? For curiosity's sake. Glad you picked your career. I recommend focusing on what you want to do, not so much the technicalities of it (how much will I get paid in X years, will this give me enough to retire, etc). These details sort themselves out. And even if they don't, the only thing that's certain right now is you have literally no chance of predicting something bad, should it actually happen.
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:04 PM
1

I wouldn't mind if you did that.
/r/seduction13/08/12 10:27 PM
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Solve me. Please. Stop deluding yourself – you already know the answers you seek, and you already know exactly what to do. You won't find answers here, at best you'll find something that will give you permission to find the answers you have inside of you. hooked up with her a couple years ago at a Christmas party. I was sober, she wasn't, but she confessed a few things There's more to this. How could you hook up with her at a Christmas party but now you can't show any interest whatsoever? Are yo…
/r/seduction13/08/12 08:46 PM
7

I've been studying life, something Buddhism has a lot in common with. ;)
/r/seduction12/08/12 05:10 PM
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The solution came when I read my own question, "what do we want?" I realized that I never define what I want. The reason for this is if I do define it, but somehow don't get what I want, then I've failed. Example: Planning to go out. Instead of the usual, "let's see what happens," I define what I want: I want to make out with at least one girl. But what if I go out and don't make out with any girls? That's what I'm afraid of – that's why I don't define what I want. Because I'm afraid that if I d…
/r/seduction12/08/12 04:38 PM
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Ahh, welcome to game – where you can blow past your comfort zone and still, remarkably, feel unsatisfied. The ego says, "more, more, more." You should've asked for her number, you should've grabbed her hand and eloped, you should've blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Where before it was, "if I can just open a hot girl I'll be satisfied." Now it's, "if I can just get a hot girl's number I'll be satisfied." Absolutely wild how the ego works. It's good on one hand – you'll start improving very qui…
/r/seduction12/08/12 07:09 AM
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Man, you might not realize it, but creepy is a helluva lot better than "all the girls think you're a really nice guy! :D ;D ;D!" Creepy is actually good. It means you're pushing something. So now you know girls think you're a "total creep." What does that mean to you? You now have the ability to start from fresh... you're facing every guy's worst nightmare. And you're still alive. Who cares what they think? You've got your entire life ahead of you. Being creepy is good, you'll be a pro in no tim…
/r/seduction10/08/12 03:37 AM
2

You are creating two personalities for yourself: the you online and the you offline. This is creating massive anxiety which will manifest as soon as you meet a girl in person. Honesty trumps anxiety. If you want to lead the double life, be prepared for the consequences.
/r/seduction09/08/12 05:38 PM
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Also, it's worth mentioning there's another problem that comes up in this community: some men don't want to get laid enough. It's so funny how the media has portrayed us men. Like we can't get enough of sex. Like that's all we want. I remember when I lost my virginity. I was so damn nervous and anxious I couldn't get aroused. I was definitely attracted to this girl, but my nervousness got in the way. And you know what? She thought it was her fault! Why? Because men are sexual machines who want t…
/r/seduction09/08/12 05:35 PM
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Haha! AWESOME man. You're discovering the power of eye contact. It was a job interview, she had all the power, but through eye contact you shifted the balance of power. Be proud of your unwavering eye contact. If you feel the tension is too much, sure you can look away... you don't have to though. Hold eye contact the entire time, she starts looking away... bet you get the job no problem. ;) She probably felt sexual tension too, since it naturally exists between men and women. Now that's funny.
/r/seduction09/08/12 05:20 PM
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Remember, it's all how you feel. If you're not having fun, there's no way to fake the vibe of having fun. Girls will be able to tell instantly you're not having fun when you come up to them. Don't let that scare you, because it is very powerful. What is a fun night for you? For me, it's when I talk to girls and push my boundaries. A lot of times, I can get rejected like crazy and still have a fun night if I did everything I wanted to do. For me, a bad night only happens when I wanted to do somet…
/r/seduction08/08/12 05:16 PM
2

Ahhhhh yes! Silence. It's so funny – I waited so long to try that. I always worried that she'd just leave me if there was any awkward silence, so I just talked whenever there was silence. And then, one time, I tried being silent. It was awkward. But I kept being silent. Finally, she broke the tension. And I realized that's what it is. It's not awkwardness, it's sexual tension! She was feeling attraction, so she broke the silence first. Silence builds sexual tension.
/r/seduction07/08/12 05:24 AM
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No no no no no no no no no. It is not obvious to others. And with something as fluid and ever-changing as seduction, I don't know if it's even possible to ever "get it." Reading information—and I hate to be the one to break it to the community—helps very, very, very little with actual interactions. I remember when I tried to read my way into being a sex god, so when I lost my virginity it wouldn't be embarrassing. Yeaaaah. Actually I was so fucking anxious and nervous that I froze up and couldn'…
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:29 AM
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You have a hard time spitting game because your concentration is split. You're not focused on the interaction, so it's naturally going to go downhill. That doesn't happen when there are a bunch of people around, because it feels normal and even if someone is listening in, you can't be sure. But when it's you, a girl and a bouncer, you KNOW the bouncer is listening in, so you become conscious of it. A good tip is to bring the watcher into the conversation some way. Just very briefly. Say somethin…
/r/seduction04/08/12 07:08 PM
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Hey man, I've got a few tips for you. But first, you're doing the right thing. Don't view seduction as an individual night. View it as a road. Every time you go out, every time you talk to a girl, every time you move out of your comfort zone, you're taking another step. There are NO BACKWARDS STEPS – at least not what you think. A lot of guys think, "Oh, I went out tonight and had a terrible night, I must've taken a few steps backwards." NO. You only take steps backwards if you do not go out (ev…
/r/seduction04/08/12 07:03 PM
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Giving someone life changing spiritual advice is cheesy? Prefacing your sentence with, "it may sound X" guarantees the person reading it will do so through the lens of X. Not picking on you, everyone does this kind of thing all the time. But if we're aware of it, we can say what we want and make sure other people hear it in the way we want it to be heard. And what is cheesy anyways, while we're at it? Why do we have a social stigma around heavier things? Spirituality, love, trust, compassion, em…
/r/seduction04/08/12 05:15 PM
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There is no getting over the fear of approach. When you "get over" approach anxiety, you've really just come to terms with the fear. The fear is caused by uncertainty: "What if she rejects me?" After you approach a number of times, you realize the worst possible results that come from approaching are no where near the potential upside. So logically (and emotionally), you understand approaching is always beneficial. That's what getting over approach anxiety is. — I remember I heard that before I …
/r/seduction04/08/12 04:48 PM
1

There is no way to mimic serendipitous moments. Here's why people think it's possible: They attempt to mimic a serendipitous moment, and in the process, actually end up accidental creating a real serendipitous moment. You don't need to mimic serendipity either... by listening to yourself at all moments and doing what you truly want to do, serendipity follows like a friendly shadow. Actually, it almost feels like serendipity is the leader, and we're the followers.
/r/seduction02/08/12 05:50 AM
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Learn from my mistakes – NEVER OPEN WITHOUT SMILING. Oh fine, I'll tell you what happened. I went up to a girl figuring worst case scenario, I'd make her day. I probably ruined it. Smile.
/r/seduction31/07/12 02:59 AM
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Here's what blows me away: You lost count at sixty women in your early 20s. Awesome, you must have a TON of fantastic knowledge. An unbelievable amount. Why do you post on /r/seduction to stroke your ego instead of actually offering actionable advice? After 60 women, do you really need to post on an online message board about how great you've always been with women? Do you feel validated? Why don't you share some insights? I (and I'm not the only one) would love to hear some real, actionable adv…
/r/seduction30/07/12 02:31 AM
1

Yet you still do, and everyone knows why.
/r/seduction30/07/12 01:52 AM
2

As long as there has ever been an ugly man with a hot significant other, looks mean nothing in seduction. Because whether it's money, fame, or success that's causing the woman to be attracted to that man, it's proving that women value some factors over looks. So if you can get those factors, it doesn't matter what the hell you look like. There have been PLENTY of ugly rock stars.
/r/seduction30/07/12 01:46 AM
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Now look at it from the angle of a complete beginner. A complete beginner needs to approach. Then make eye contact. Then talk in a way that makes the frame sexual. Then escalate to back it up. Then have the confidence to make a pull regardless of logistics. Maybe you can do all that now. But to a beginner, approaching is—hands down—the easiest part of seduction. So you say you can do all those steps, and you're STILL dealing with suffocating approach anxiety? I don't think so.
/r/seduction30/07/12 01:15 AM
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No, I get what your saying. This is literally copy/pasted from my journal. That was a quick internal dialogue I had with myself to get to the bottom of what I was feeling. "Hot girls," to me, means a girl I'm very attracted to. It doesn't mean looks alone. But I really don't think the phrase "hot girls" sounds that shallow. I don't need to feel shallow for viewing girls through the lens of sex.
/r/seduction29/07/12 10:47 PM
2

Substitute "laid" with something you want but currently don't have. I think it's a universal concept, let me know.
/r/seduction29/07/12 10:33 PM
2

Oh puhhleeeease. ;)
/r/seduction29/07/12 10:29 PM
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We focus way too much on approaching. It is—hands down—the easiest part of seduction (it's not even seduction). Yet we have such a massive emphasis on it. "Approach Anxiety" is one of the most common terms mentioned around here. But approaching is easy. Anyone who's done it knows that. All you do is walk up and eject something from your vocal chords. And the problem is, just from approaching, you can get an ego boost. Because it's something not a lot of people are doing. So you become complacent…
/r/seduction29/07/12 10:05 PM
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It's incredible the kind of insights comics can give. Thanks for posting.
/r/seduction29/07/12 09:50 PM
4

I can taste the insecurities.
/r/seduction29/07/12 09:47 PM
1

Perfect. Commitment is something I'll be experimenting with, as well as making sure I see everything to its true conclusion.
/r/seduction29/07/12 09:47 PM
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It's going to be difficult. But here's the good news – you aren't alone. A LOT of people go through this. We've been around our families our entire lives. So although we've changed a lot during that time, our families have seen us change. To them, we've always fit within a "mold." Your peers view you in a similar way, but since you're not around them 24/7 (and you weren't when you were developing as a child), they haven't put you in such a strict mold. Now, before you take this to mean you're th…
/r/seduction29/07/12 01:12 AM
5

Most people go into with interactions with little to no sense of control. Sometimes an interaction goes well, sometimes it doesn't. We think that's normal – that's just how a conversation is. But that's actually not true. A conversation revolves fully around you. You can go up to a group of people and have an awful, awkward conversation, or you can have an incredibly deep and enlightening one. What changes? The attitude going in. If you approach a group of people thinking, "these people look lik…
/r/seduction28/07/12 10:51 PM
1

Yes, you do want that – why else would you post what you just posted? To anyone on the fence about it, don't let this comment turn you off. How to Win Friends and Influence people has been described as "simple" and "common sense" over and over and over. That's why I didn't actually read it until last year. After I finished, I wanted to kick myself for not reading it earlier. Fantastic book, will absolutely change your life in a positive manner.
/r/seduction28/07/12 09:41 PM
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This is not a unique story – psychedelics break you down and let you pick up the pieces. Here's the good news: you're out of the woods. Been there, done that, and when I was "better," it lasted (still with me, actually). And yes, life's better than ever. It's why I recommend psychedelics to anyone and everyone. No, it's not easy. In fact, one of the most difficult things you can do. But it's worth it.
/r/seduction28/07/12 09:36 PM
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I feel like Love Systems could get some traction in this community if they weren't so obsessed with pushing their brand.
/r/seduction26/07/12 03:23 AM
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You are the pursuer. Look at your frame. You really want this one girl to like you, so you're holding yourself back to make her think you don't really like her, so that she'll come after you. It's not going to work. I promise. You think this way because you don't have many options. That's okay, really. It's part of growth in this area. Women will chase you when they realize they aren't the only ones. Women love it when a man escalates them. They love it when they meet a guy and within thirty sec…
/r/seduction26/07/12 03:20 AM
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Well why are you wondering if you don't think you need them? ;)
/r/seduction21/07/12 12:50 AM
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You don't need gimmicks to attract women.
/r/seduction21/07/12 12:37 AM
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There is no real alpha. A conversation is not something you can calculate. If you're at the point where you're thinking, "do I respond seriously," you're not focused on the conversation, so it's not a conversation. At night, there are a few girls who will instantly like you for who you are. You'll be able to see this. When there's mutual attraction, you don't have time for "how do I respond." So the game changes from worrying how to respond, to weeding out all the girls who aren't into you so yo…
/r/seduction20/07/12 06:10 AM
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Look at the ego on this guy. ;) I have been in only four relationships in my entire life (yeah, pathetic), and have had a few one-night stands here and there. If you say so. But that's not what you think. You're proud of your one-night stands and relationships and often compare yourself to your co-workers, who likely haven't had any one night stands. And you should be, really. Don't insult yourself to appear humble, because you'll start to believe it. My ex left me last week because we kept figh…
/r/seduction20/07/12 02:26 AM
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I don't see on here people being told to go out and become interesting. Because that is a very impractical piece of advice. In fact, going out and "becoming interesting" because you want to attract women defeats the purpose. That being said, it can cause a transformation. You go do things to get better with girls, in the process learn you don't need to draw your happiness from women, then become more attractive. Of course, if you go into it with the idea of getting the transformation, you're als…
/r/seduction20/07/12 02:15 AM
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No. Nothing you do is weird, you don't need validation. And you'll be creepy as long as you use the phrase "hopefully this doesn't come off as creepy." It's because you instantly make me view what you're writing through the frame of creepiness – something I wouldn't have done naturally. It is natural. Funny thing about society, we alienate almost everything that makes us happy. Men love to be touched by other men (we just don't like people thinking we're gay). Women love being touched by women. …
/r/seduction20/07/12 02:11 AM
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You might be uninteresting.
/r/seduction18/07/12 01:20 PM
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Well, who else to blame? You're viewing someone as uninteresting instead of interesting.
/r/seduction18/07/12 01:19 PM
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Dude, you only took steps forward. You NEED to see it like this. Here's what happened: you approached some girls for the first time and impressed the chick you were with. That's a HUGE deal. That's like you 2.0. And then the "complication" that is so insignificant I feel I don't even need to mention it. You saw your ex and went and talked to her. So what? You feel bad because you still have feelings for her. It makes that interaction take front row in your mind. You have the whole night behind y…
/r/seduction16/07/12 04:33 AM
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Amazing post. It is really all about getting out there. Because nothing you can read will ever prepare you for the real thing. Might sound depressing, but it's good. It's an adventure. In 2 years you'll get dinner with a girl you haven't seen in a while. A girl you liked but were too chicken to make a move. By the end of the night, you will have hooked up with her (or, at least know you could've), and then you'll have your epiphany. You'll realize you don't even like her anymore, and you can do …
/r/seduction16/07/12 04:22 AM
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Were you horny when you approached? Did you think about fucking each girl as you talked to them?
/r/seduction18/06/12 03:39 AM
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Nice excuse. You can be a social introvert. In fact, I think it's preferable to a social extrovert. Jesus, we need to get rid of the labels "introvert" and "extrovert." People just dig themselves into meaningless holes for absolutely no reason. Being an introvert literally means nothing.
/r/seduction04/06/12 08:25 PM
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Must be. Now you can sit back, relax, and never worry about picking up a woman again. Because only good looking people succeed. Yeeeeeeah.
/r/seduction04/06/12 04:02 AM
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What is "truly ugly?" There is no universal ugliness. What was attractive 20 years ago is now ugly. There is no essence of ugliness, therefore you can never be "truly ugly." Remember, ugliness is an attitude. Here's what Isadora Duncan, a dancer, said about Gabriele D'Annunzio: "Perhaps the most remarkable lover of our time is Gabriele D'Annunzio. And this notwithstanding that he is small, bald, and, except when his face lights up with enthusiasm, ugly. But when he speaks to a woman he likes, hi…
/r/seduction23/05/12 06:46 AM
2

The Power of Now
/r/seduction18/05/12 03:33 AM
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Why is that?
/r/seduction17/05/12 06:21 PM
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But why isn't she comfortable in social situations? What's telling her to not be comfortable? Ah, now I understand what you're saying. Yes, it's true. Being yourself won't give you magical learning powers. You won't be able to pick up the guitar and become Jimi Hendrix literally overnight. Some people know playing guitar is what they've always wanted to do. But they never touch a guitar because, "it's too hard, I'll never be like Jimi Hendrix anyway." That's the ego – what's stopping you from do…
/r/seduction17/05/12 06:18 PM
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Is that true, or is that what you tell yourself?
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:18 PM
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It's why I said a reply, not a rebuttal. I liked what you said, just thought I'd add my own perspective.
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:17 PM
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Yes, rejection definitely is painful – to the ego. You're right. The ego isn't a horrible thing. That would imply negative intent. In reality, the ego has no intent. It simply creates beliefs and rules according to how you react to your environment. The method most commonly used for raising children creates a negative ego. This is actually good news – it means your ego can be just as strong of a positive force as it is a negative force. But for this to happen, you need to retrain it. You retrain…
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:16 PM
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The length of time depends on how long you think it will take. Let me explain. Most people realize anxiety disorders can be overcome. They read about people who struggled with anxiety for 30 years, but slowly overcame it. They see the light at the end of the tunnel. They realize they can beat anxiety. But it will take time. Why do they think this? Because it was the case for everyone else; why wouldn't it be the case for them? They impose an unnecessary time limit on the recovery process. Instan…
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:11 PM
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If you look at all the guys in the seduction community who are relatively good with women, I think you'll find that almost none of them are not going to be objectively unattractive for any reason. It's because "attractive" is a state of mind. Take your fat, bald, unemployed man. He goes home to his mom's basement; the place is a mess. Clothes everywhere, half eaten bowls of cereal... He's constantly angry, wishing the world would warp itself to deliver him from self-inflicted suffering, with abs…
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:00 PM
1

On the reading list. Thanks!
/r/seduction17/05/12 04:49 PM
2

Awesome video. It's funny – all we've ever experienced in life is what's in front of us. The present moment. It's all that's real. Yet we all are much more acquainted in the imaginary world of our minds than we are with actual reality. In fact, actually living in the now is a foreign concept. It's true, there's no pain right now.
/r/seduction17/05/12 04:49 PM
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But why do you want to work on your inner game? What's telling you you want to do that?
/r/seduction17/05/12 04:45 PM
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Is your first thought when you see a "whore" (what is that, anyway?) to rape? Or are you saying that if you had no ego, every time you saw a woman you'd instantly rape her? Deep down, that's what you truly want to do?
/r/seduction17/05/12 04:44 PM
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When someone asks, "what do you want to be when you grow up," what do we think? We don't think what we actually want to BE. We think of an answer that's "realistic." This is why you get people saying, "I don't know what I want to be when I grow up." It's not true. They know exactly what they want to be. Maybe an actor, maybe a teacher, maybe a bobsled driver. But for some reason, they forget these ideas because they (their ego) feel they're impossible. Only 1% of aspiring actors make it. Teacher…
/r/seduction17/05/12 04:41 PM
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How did Mr. FatBaldUnemployed get to where he was at? Did he want to be fat, bald and unemployed? If so, I see no problem – he's living the life he wants. If he wants to be thin, be comfortable with his lack of hair and employed, why has he allowed his ego to push his life in a different direction? If he wants to change, that's his TRUE SELF. If he wants to change but doesn't, that's because he's not listening to his TRUE SELF, he's listening to his ego construction. Also, are you saying it's im…
/r/seduction17/05/12 01:34 AM
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Psycho Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz talks about the effect (or lack thereof) plastic surgery has on patients’ self-image. There are two possible results: Complete life transformation – a patient comes goes through surgery because they believe they have a defect. Surgery happens, the "defect" is fixed, the patient's life is changed. They're more confident, outgoing and love life like never before. Lack of any change whatsoever – the "defect" is fixed, but the patient's life continues as normal. T…
/r/seduction17/05/12 01:30 AM
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A fat, unemployed, balding dude is not going to have any chance with with Adriana Lima. Did he get to this point by only doing what he wanted to do? By being himself? If so, isn't he happy? The point isn't to get Adriana Lima. How many men will even see her in person? The point is, should this man see Adriana Lima and his first thought is to approach, that would be him being himself. Ignoring it and saying, "I'm fat, unemployed balding dude – she won't like me" is listening to the ego. Social co…
/r/seduction17/05/12 12:20 AM
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I get, from your post, that your criticism of the mantra "Being "You" hasn't worked, so why continue to be you?" is that "you" is being clouded by anxiety and people not doing or stating their intentions and being true to their own desires; being driven by Ego and limiting beliefs. Not sure what you mean by this. Surely you can't be suggesting that everyone who is sucking with women (or life) is only doing so because they aren't doing what they want...? I am.
/r/seduction16/05/12 11:57 PM
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I explained that I kept coming over because I was attracted to her, but I never did anything because I was in an anxiety bubble. She understood completely (a lot of girls deal with anxiety – it's partially why the whole "anti slut defense" exists). We ended up having a short but sweet physical/emotional relationship. Everyone appreciates honesty – as long as it's really the truth. I could've made up some reason why I kept coming over to dodge the truth, but I wouldn't have been myself. She would…
/r/seduction16/05/12 11:26 PM
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No, be yourself means, "be your self." ;)
/r/seduction16/05/12 11:16 PM
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I didn't say that. I said be your self. There is no "best self."
/r/seduction16/05/12 11:16 PM
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Yes. ;)
/r/seduction16/05/12 10:21 PM
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Physical contact - by far. This pretty much eliminates the possibility of the friend zone.
/r/seduction11/05/12 03:06 PM
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This is EXACTLY me three months ago. Social, outgoing, could talk to random girls on the street like no one else in my social group could. But was still a virgin at 20, not unlike yourself. The truth is, you shouldn't care. After you have sex, you'll realize everything you worried about is false and sex isn't a big deal. That being said, you WILL most likely care until you go out and have sex. That's what I recommend. Even though sex is just sex, if you're anything like me, after you have sex it…
/r/seduction02/05/12 05:57 AM
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It's because we don't want just your "average dating life." I don't think I'm only speaking for myself when I say I want a life of abundance – something that 90% of people never get to experience. True social abundance. True relationship abundance. Being surrounded by people you CHOOSE to surround yourself with, because you enjoy their company – you enjoy who they are. A life where you don't have to be scared of a good looking girl. A life where you never need to ask yourself, "what if I'd gone …
/r/seduction30/03/12 10:32 PM
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Where do you get this done at?
/r/seduction28/03/12 10:38 PM
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Man, that guy spoke to my soul. That presentation was fantastic – no problem with pop-up ads whatsoever. Thanks for all this awesome material!
/r/seduction16/03/12 07:40 PM
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SMILE WHEN YOU APPROACH. The caps is to burn this into my head. Yesterday I approached a girl with the intent to compliment her, and most likely walk away (she was working). So I go up to her, tell her she's "incredibly attractive," but I'm not smiling. My body language is closed. I'm pretty sure I scared the hell out of her. Smiling/being open would change the outcome completely. So don't forget it. ;)
/r/seduction16/03/12 04:49 PM
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That's how I always feel, although I'm sure I'm a bit more awkward at it than you are. I want to get to the point when it's just automatic. It's become a part of who I am. That's how conversation is for me now, so I just need to do it with physical escalation.
/r/seduction14/03/12 08:45 PM
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Planning to take tango lessons soon. Thanks for the tip!
/r/seduction14/03/12 08:44 PM
1

Awesome. Thanks for that video – it's awesome... pretty sure it's exactly what I need.
/r/seduction14/03/12 08:44 PM
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I agree with you. But I'm going to come from a different angle here. I think the best thing you can do for her is to do what's best for YOU. Use the relationship as a way to express yourself with another human being. Be selfish, but not in a "it's all for me" kind of way. Be selfish, but realize that by taking care of yourself—and living your life at the highest level—you're enabling her to live her life at the highest level as well. If everything you do is for her, you won't be able to live you…
/r/seduction10/03/12 12:56 AM
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Your friend is a fucking asshole.
/r/seduction03/03/12 05:36 PM
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OP – same thing happened to me my (almost) first time. Girl was grinding the shit out of me and doing everything I would've wanted her to do, but my dick was just limp as a fucking fish. Found YBOP and did a self diagnosis. I HIGHLY recommend the link. Check out the "Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction" section.
/r/seduction29/02/12 04:36 AM
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What if there was no chance of the conversation being not interesting? Maybe you should go in with the frame that, no matter what is said, you'll find something interesting. Worked for me!
/r/seduction23/02/12 05:00 AM
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