Right. So this is my update post about learning daygame findings. Someone might share opinions on it.

So, these are my thoughts about being in a relationship as a daygamer, who's started learning daygame from zero (i.e., very little sexual experience & confidence), but mainly - what I learned. Just as a sort of a summary, for myself primarily.

As I observed, most people are either all-in-daygame (PUAs, like Krauser or Torero) or all-in-relationship focused (an average dude looking for a gf). There are some people focused on the topics of in-between, but these are not so much discussed generally, somehow (i.e., when you have some relationships and some daygame-, or other game-fueled polygomy of sorts). Since me myself am naturally a person who's about 60-70% "decent guy" (proper work discipline, career-building, etc.) and 30-40% "crazy adventerous guy" (drugs, parties, crazy ass stories), I tend to be more interested in the shades, rather than going all-in single LTR or one-day-lay. So, here I wanted to share my opinions on what I find useful as a person, who's very much interested in learning game (and daygame specifically) with multiple women, while still benefitting from some sort of relationships. I wanted to do so from the perspective of a guy who's had little game (hence, neither relationships, neither hedonistic pump-n-dump).

Right. So, there are the list of points to discuss.

1) You learn about the "full cycle of game", not just street-to-sex. Since I started active daygaming Sep 20 til Jan 21 (when I found a single girl to spend more time with), I've been on an average 1-2 dates each week (about 30 dates in total). Did 250 approaches (about 10-30 each week). Layed 5 girls (lay-a-month). With this girl, I understood more how the relationships work (which might come of use when addressing the female psychology).

2) You learn sex skills rapidly. Since I was bad, this might have led to me feeling less SMV otherwise. With a single girl and marathons of dates lasting 2-3 full days (sometimes, in the mid-week) and making this girl multiorgasm with 4-5 waves, 2-3 times a night, I kind of get the grasp of the process a lot better.

3) You learn about deeper female psychology, including their habits. Basically, you kind of learn how their periods proceed, how to make them orgasm during these, how do they make themselves look better, how do they shower and go to toilets. This shit makes you see women as humans. So, even HB9 is actually perceived as more of a person, rather than an "unattainable ideal" or something (which I felt in-before).

4) You satisfy affection and understand the experience of gaining it. Affection from a girl is a sweet experience, like sunbathing in the sunset of the evening on the beach. A girl that would like to keep a high value male in relation to her after sex can go extra miles to satisfy that man. This includes kissing passionately, cooking, cleaning. Of course, not like a slave and you might make her a chicha or something, but it's generally very sweet.

5) Your SMV increases because of self-evaluation. Basically, a girl who gives you affection because you are who you are as a man - is deeply gratifying. When you daygamed her, and she knows that you have options, and you are quite good physically as she is - then you don't have that feeling "I have to give her gifts to have sex with her". I mean, I brought her some gifts, but these are like a wine (I drank) or flowers drawn on the oatmeal cardboard I made in 5 mins (as a sort of creative punchline joke). Also, she wants to keep you happy (if you have some K value on top of r value). I might have summarised it not accurately, but somewhere in that vein...

6) Sex quality might be significantly better. Learning each other, when it's just a single girl may lead to a deeper sex. Again, since you as a daygamer should have options, then she should go an extra mile to satisfy you as a man. This girl had first facial, first anal with me, etc. Just because she wants me to be satisfied. Of course, this leads to 5) point above. Also, tantric sex is more easily achievable (i.e., when you play the sexual polarities of Ying and Yang to a level, when you and she orgasms for 5-25 minutes).

7) You get an "overall experience package", not just high from seduction & sex. Basically, cooking together, going for a walk in a creative space, smoking chicha before sex, making her blow you while you are driving a car, shared jokes. These may be more satisfying than grinding 30 approaches a week. I still want to return to this daygame grind. I love the thrill and the high of a hunt (i.e., when AA is actually not anxious, but thrilling). But, I also love new experiences. Some of these are only possible with a single girl. Some are not (e.g., going for an orgy is troublesome).

8) You learn communication and self-expression. Well, seduction is quite superficial, for beginners especially. I remember putting a crafted persona. With this girl, I've found my old-lost parts, like actually being more emotionally expressive, than I am with the first-dates. You basically have 24-48-72 hours with a girl spent communicating, unlike usually in a date you spend 2-5 hours. Obviously, the "sale is usually already assumed in relationships", and it's less about attractiveness stage. Still, you get to practice flirting, joking, etc.

9) Spiritual development & Inner Game. Related to 8). As you express yourself better, you kind of get a reassurance from a girl that you are actually attractive with yourself as you are (rather than a crafted persona). You may face inner game quirks and issues (e.g., that you are afraid for a girl leaving you). A girl also tends to promote your growth with her continually testing feminine essence. Tantric sex is also helping this (as you focus on being more masculine in the sex, this improves your masculine essence => improves attractiveness).

10) More time for value-building activities (marketing, rather than sales). If relationships in this case is post-sales service (which might be an important seduction skill), daygame is sales, then value-building is marketing. More time for studying, working, gym, eating, reading, becoming more well-versed, and the like. Some of these are K value (e.g., studying, working), but some imply r value as much, as for K value (e.g., gym, improving intelligence).

In conclusion:

Doing a period of relationships might be beneficial for a zero-to-hero daygamer. These benefits are expected to spill over into a daygame (I am still in my first relationships with a girl). However, there are also challenges that I think could be present. For example, going separate ways might be highly emotional and troublesome to the generally narcissistic and low self-esteem ego of the aspiring daygamer. Another example, is how to get the girl to extend the sexual horizons to include, e.g., three-somes, four-somes. Finally, it might be more challenging to keep the girl around, as generally you might tend to spend/invest more & more time/money in the girl, hence the risk of over-investment fear. Also, it's not entirely clear how to add more "daygame"/"r-approach" to the relationships that you have - do you just break up at some point? Do you deliberately make her hate you more than liking you to make her initiate the breakup? How do you get the emotions under control, given that you have already connected quite a lot? How do you not become a broken person forever pumping-n-dumping girls, because you needed to explore novelty in your mid-twenties? These are some of the challenging questions that I have now. You may contribute, if you have some ideas.