I've been doing this for two years now, but in a third world country; Iraq.
Here You can't direct aproach, there's no day or night game. everything is about social status and circles.
Why This Might Be Helpful to You:
Seduction is based on a few Branches, Direct and Indirect Game. when you first learn about this community you try to level both, so if:
DirectG = 40%
you can't advance anymore until you improve your Indirect Game with it. or you'll always run to the same situation. it's like a scale that you have to balance.
But i didn't have the Direct Aproach available so i worked my ass for the other, and advanced as much as i can, reached a level i didn't know about.
In other words maybe your game level right now is
Direct = 58% InDirect = 54%
Mine Might Be:
D = 12% InD = 80%
so i started focusing on my game from another perspective, i tried Direct approaching, turns out even if the girl likes you she won't act upon it. the only way you could go further is if no one was there to judge her which wasn't possible most of the time. so instead of approaching and failing i went full indirect and Anti-Kino on everyone. and so far I've succeeded dramatically, but it still has it's down sides.
cause the time i could have spent on Direct and couldn't went to the InDirect, making me more focused and in a constant learning curve.
In the next few paragraphs you might see some new ways of describing things, some old stuff with different point of veins and some new stuff that might not seem that important.
With practice all of this can be acomplished, just keep an open mind and start step by step. Any questions are welcome.
Any criticism is welcome as well (Unless it's about my language, This is my third tongue asswhipe.)
Let's Start:
First you need to step out of the world, this is how you'll seem be different. it goes like this, The world is in a constant cycle of pushing, they show you a new razor and describe it as the best one yet, only real men use this razor. and only men need it. now your mind will automatically go
"Duh, I'm a man need that to prove it to myself and show it to everyone"
and it's not you alone, it's you and three other hundred guys that fall for the same trick. this goes in getting girls too. when they feel like you're with them to feel "Like a Man" then they'll know you're not complete. they sniff that like no dog can.
So you need to be Basic. It's You, You then Her.
in other words You have to be a mountain that can't be climbed, she can try. but the snow will constantly make her slip. a mountain doesn't need a new razor, doesn't need to move around to find people for climbing it. it only needs to sit around and wait. when.
That's what peeks people's interest, the ones that don't try (Directly Atleast) will seem like a piece of puzzle that they can't fit anywhere.
and that's what females are supposed to do, to keep you in a mold, see your shape and define it, touch it and be able to shift it's shape. when they can't only then you'll be 'A Man' something that moves on it's on, does how it feels like and generates curiosity.
No, I Don't mean for you to go around and be an asshole to women, you have to be subtle. hear her out, smile and then do whatever the fuck you wanted in the first place. don't stay around for her, stay for yourself.
Feeding
You can feed people in four different ways.
- Financially
- Emotionally
- Sexually
- Physically
1. Financially: This is the first thing guys do to Get validation from girls, Showering with gifts and objects just to make her happy, no matter how happy she is, You just did what any other guy could have done. no matter how expensive and how hard it was to get it. most other guys could have done the same.
In the middle east, we just pay for the dates, hotel room and anything that isn't directly for her, but for the Both Of You.
2. Emotionally: Emotions, oh i can write in this subject till dawn (it actually is dawn; 5:15 AM).
there are three types of emotional feeding.
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Validating: This is the most powerful and most manipulative type, Experienced Radio show hosts use it to make a caller open up usually, it's a powerful thing to use. when you first meet a person and ask about them, the more you ask the better, it gives them validation. when they are unsure or in doubt you can easily validate them, fuck it, even when they buy a cup of coffee you can validate them, This is different from 'Kissing Ass' This takes you to actually listen and inform them about their action
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Sharing: This might be a better opener with other people, as it will make them more comfortable with you, and then you can start validating. Sharing thoughts takes some prior experience and feelings to give out after they share an idea or incident that happened with them. If they talk about a break up, you don't go saying 'it all will get better', No, you start describing that feeling of being hurt and lost, like a piece of your hear is broken. (Don't worry this won't make you weak, only relatable. it builds insane amounts of comfort and sometimes makes people attached, since everyone is hiding their insecurities, and you just described it to her. making her feel like you both have been on the same road, then she'll feel you've both been on the same road)
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Adding: After You have validated someone, only then you can add up thoughts to their mind directly, now they feel connected and understood by you, so it's a very easy process to accept thoughts and ideas from you. actually it will become a very valid thing for them to consider after you've discussed whatever it was. Now you can add up a thought like, How after you find another person to love and you both break up again, it feels like a piece of your heart was broken again right? (Make her guess when adding) when she answers yes, you explaining that no. breaking again only proves that it got healed the first time, and there's nothing stopping it from healing except us. (This will add up on the sharing and show you're more experienced, positive and a stable mountain that related to her earlier but didn't actually get your heart broken, you just accepted sharing her feeling but didn't necessarily have felt it before) Yeah yeah this is a great twist that you can master after a few tries, and it's very powerful, but practice is a must.
3. Sexually: I understand to get sexual with a girl you needed KINO, But here we don't have that. I tried and most of the time i failed, raising question and weird reactions, but then realized i don't need Touch to be sexual, i had a few other weapons in my arsenal
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Jealousy: when a girl walks by, checking her body and treating the girl next to you like a 'Male friend' and asking her to rate that girls Body/Ass/physique. or simply making a snob comment on how Other girls must hate this walking piece of eye candy. This will make her want Physical validation. You might be close to her mind and heart but her body needs that attention too. and you will give her that attention. In certain rare moments, in very low doses and with as much intensity as possible. But after that moment passes you'll act like nothing happened, EVER. that will start her mind to ask so many question. and she'll start proving herself to you. In anyway possible. ie. physically
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Body Language: An open, body language says a lot, it might seem intimating to some people but it's a very open sign of sexuality to girls, they'll always fantasize about the guy who's comfortable in his own body.
4. Physically: This is KINO, I've had experince with it, so far 1/8 would be uncomfortable with me if i start it directly and that one can be fixed by adding more comfort , it's all in how light you are and how indirect to use this. I advise you to read DiCarlo's (Kino) Escalation Ladder. and there are other PUA's that know better than me in that department
Now to conclude this section, you should know:
If she talks 50% of the time and you 50% then it won't lead anywhere, you'll be just another friend.
If she talks 30% and you the rest of the 70%, it obvoiusly won't work wirther. because you're investing too much.
If she talks 70% and you the 30%, you are on the right road, but still far from success, she'll see you as her emotional tampon.
you need to be 12% at the beginning and at the end also, she needs to fill the void that's left. not to in putting her under pressure, no but making her open up easily just by a few words of you. this will come by practice, lots of it.
so start with the 50% and learn how to decrease it by time, the point here is to make you a mystery, something they can't reach or understand but in the same time feel the ultimate comfort with. mystery creates that spark of sexuality and interest, comfort builds the trust that leads to Sex and Relationships
This is a key tool for you to use, it will make you different from the rest of the guys.
Anti-Kino Flirting or AKF:
The most important thing in this department is subtlety and making her think and want to find out, acting casual after something subtle is the best thing you can do, it will make her wonder. it's like teasing on another level. if she confronts you, teasing her with words is the best thing to do. "What you want something to happen between us that BAD?" in a joking matter way, or you can agree and amplify.
making her feel like there's something growing between you that she can't control
This can go on multiple levels, the most important of them goes to body language's Eye Contact, Your eyes can say a lot more than you think, keeping eye contact while talking is a sign of attention, but that isn't flirting.
Take it like this, There's a guy talking he's obviously superior than both of you, babbling about whatever having everyone's attention. when you take a your focus away and put it on her, Looking at her will show a sign of subtle interest, you two will share a moment, or at least in HER mind you will.
But remember this, when you feel like you've gone with her far ahead enough and its your turn to make a move, something will tell you not to. to wait and play around with her a bit more before making a move. And the next thing you know, you're sitting in your room looking for a Pornstar that looks like her with a box of clean-X.
Make a move when you know the time is right, don't hesitate, and don't back down making excuses of how it's too soon.
Honestly there's more to AKF but nothing comes to mind right now, so i might continue this section with another post, determining if this one was helpful at all to you kids.
Avoiding the FriendZone:
Oh this is such a big problem to guys, not realizing how simple it is to avoid it.
There are even PUA artists who claim that if you don't do anything with a girl long enough you WILL fall in that zone. it's unavoidable. well it's not, no really it isn't. Let me put in an analogy here for you.
Remember my commercial example from above?
I offer a product and imply that only real men have this. And if you are one; buy it as soon as possible.
It's the same concept for girls. If she has walked up all the steps to be a successful and a happy women. You show her that there's one last hidden step; YOU. And if she wants to be a real woman. Really happy and self accomplished then she needs to step on you too. But if the last stair is too high she won't bother cause she knows she might fall and lose it all. If the step is too close to her current one then she'll see there's nothing on that stair worth her time or different from the rest of the stairs, so she won't bother. You need to make the stair at her eye level. Low Enough to grab her attention but high enough for her not to see the top of it.
That's what's called attainability
Your job is only making that stair look appealing and different. And if she hesitates then it will gradually move forward without telling her. In the end you're a stair, if the person you want doesn't step on you then, you move on. Not talk about it or complain. There will always be others that need an extra stair to step on. And its always your choice if you let them or not. Weather they stepped and moved on or stepped and never got off. It's entirely your fault.
Women who are less experienced will always seem intrigued by your stair height and level. Cause at Max they've reached maybe 3 steps up in life.
But experienced one's might have seen lots of stairs but didn't bother. Or did and got disappointed on how the stair started crying when they were about to step off.
Be the stair, the rock. The emotionally stable one that can't be moved unless he wants to. Stairs don't answer question. Don't think about shit tests and are there only to raise you up, or slip you down. It's your choice if you want others to try their step on you. And its also your fault if they hurt you after stepping off.
If you're FriendZoned, then you're too close to her current step. If you're the best guy in the room and she's not receptive of your actions, then you're way too high for her to be interested.
Level your scale and success will follow.
OK guys, I'm done for tonight.. or day. I'm going to bed.
I still have a few other subjects that i want to discuss and explain, one of em is Text game, I'm making a step by step guide with multiple methods and examples to use.
Conversation methods and techniques, Launching into state and options. and a few more. if anyone can use what i have learnt then I'll write up more. Questions are welcome and also criticism.
Note: If you guys can do me a solid and rate my English writing, i want to know what is good and bad in it, what to improve and isn't necessary.
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