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Meh, disagree. I found the Red Pill somehow through PUA and RSD shit cause I was a smart kid who was awkward as fuck. Blue Pill with a sex life seems way worse to me. There's plenty of stories of guys getting fucked over by girls and that being their Red Pill moment. Or worse, you end up supplicating to women for your whole life and never have a Red Pill moment. I'm happy I found it when I was young.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/20 09:17 AM
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Sociopathic behaviour How is that sociopathic behaviour?
/r/TheRedPill10/12/18 04:32 AM
4

Justin Bieber wasn't effeminate, he was just young.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/18 01:09 AM
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Here's the most recent one I've seen him use: http://i.imgur.com/vWgESi6.gif
/r/TheRedPill24/11/18 12:22 AM
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/u/GayLubeOil's chart about IQ he likes to post pretty much describes what you're talking about and I find it fascinating.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/18 09:33 PM
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All women are non-confrontational. They hate arguing and they also suck dick at it.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/18 07:06 PM
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How is telling the girl your boundaries not setting them?
/r/TheRedPill19/11/18 03:59 AM
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Either if you want to "break rapport" (I.e You want to convey a negative feeling. Almost like socially punishing the girl for something she said/did) or so that it's not weird (I.e If she looks away). Also if you just feel like breaking eye contact for whatever reason. This is applicable to everyone not just women.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/18 05:01 AM
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Look at yourself in a mirror and say, "Look at me. I am the captain now".
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 09:45 AM
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Talking to people all the time is mentally and emotionally exhausting for most. My thinking is people who lean towards Red Pill also find human behavior in general as interesting. Not just for sexual strategy but out of their raw curiosity. Well, that's me to a T. I think nearly all people are fucking assholes. But then again, I enjoy fucking with people. When you find it amusing, you'll do it because you want to do it. It's like a little sport. I get this and sometimes yeah it's definitely fun …
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 09:41 AM
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The way i broke the cycle was fucking some 3/10 landwhale from tinder and slowly moved up to now plating 6's What's the purpose of 'moving your way up' from a 3 to a 6? It sounds like you started fucking unattractive girls and slowly moved your way up to somewhat attractive girls.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 05:53 AM
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Not sure if /s but in my experience most women's 'problems' are rather stupid and they don't want help with them, just for you to listen and agree. If I had a girl friend who actually wanted some help with a real problem then sure, I'm going to help them but otherwise I ain't got time for that shit. Women will talk your ear off if you let them.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 05:40 AM
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If someone is complaining about the nature of women these days then I don't think they have fully swallowed the Red Pill. I don't believe that most guys on this sub bitch about women 'jumping around', they accept it and work with that situation. That is the whole point of TRP, not to bitch about women. Men are encouraged to sleep with women, period. Whether they are taken or not is not a factor in RP sexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 05:37 AM
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I think that this denotes an ulterior problem, one that speaks about actively deciding not to "play" the game. Most definitely. There are so many dudes out there that are either ill equipped to deal with women on a basic level that they are checking out (At least this is my hypothesis). Any average (Or even below average) girl that knows how to put make up on has such a large leg up over an average dude I'm not surprised this is occurring. Most girls start getting male attention from the time th…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/18 06:04 AM
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You do realize a shit ton of current RP concepts are based on evolutionary psychology, right?
/r/TheRedPill31/10/18 11:18 PM
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This sub is not about lifting all guys up, it's about male sexual strategy. What he did was absolutely perfect. Show he can play nice with the more beta dudes but keeps his alpha frame at the same time. Letting another guy crash and burn doesn't help you at all. The way he did it, he can leverage the situation to give himself more social proof and cement himself as an alpha to the girl.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/18 10:45 AM
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Going to the gym is the opposite of boring for me. It's both a mental and physical exercise, it requires good technique and you can push yourself hard. I don't understand how anyone who lifts weights and actually tries to progress gets bored unless they are deluded into thinking they would get ripped fast.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/18 10:27 AM
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Uh, where is the evidence to back that up? I believe the reality was the complete opposite. Men were promiscuous and women were monogamous in the sense that they would only be with 1 man at time.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/18 10:19 AM
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By checks your boxes do you mean for an LTR or just for a plate?
/r/TheRedPill29/10/18 09:05 PM
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I think the definition of plate is rather loose. Rollo seems to use it as a catch all term for any girl you're at least talking to.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/18 07:36 AM
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But you can be the prince of whatever small group you are, you just need her to get into that group and see everyone loving you. Sounds like social circle game in a nutshell.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/18 07:34 AM
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It's 'domain dependency', as Rollo puts it.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/18 07:33 AM
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So you think a grown man is acting like a man if he flakes and throws fits? Doesn't seem very fallacious to me.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/18 07:29 AM
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I think this mainly comes from Rollo using the word. Although, when you look up the definition this comes up as well: the quality of being self-centred or selfish. Which perfectly fits with how most people use it with regards to women.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/18 07:27 AM
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White and light blue aren't bright colours. Red, yellow, etc are bright colours. I agree with what you're saying but I think you're talking more about contrast.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/18 11:10 PM
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I assume by "enjoy the decline" you mean the decline of intersexual relations. It might take a while but the way I see it it can self correct in 2 ways. Either women get too fucked off with beta men or beta men get too fucked off with women. I honestly don't know what will come first. 90% of young girls are fucking 'thots', vapid and blatantly hypergamous but dudes take it like a dildo up their ass and the chicks seem happy with their bitch boys so idk.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/18 02:03 AM
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Actionable advice: Listen, but don't heed what women say the same way you would do with a child. Expect nothing from them and you won't be disappointed by their solipsistic actions.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/18 01:45 AM
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I understood that you agreed with me. I was quoting you to show someone else had the same POV as me.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/18 06:51 PM
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Thanks for the patronizing lecture. It's entirely possible for you to be 'successful' and still be shit with women or to not be in ideal situations unless we are defining successful as Dan Bilzerian level of success. Someone even replied to me saying exactly that. While I agree that having a primary mission and purpose in life other than women is vital, some men on here take it to the extreme and ignore the fact that Game actually exist. I was a dating coach for several years and I had more than…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 10:33 PM
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In the end he have to make a value judgment that if the outcome he is getting is worth the effort and pain he is putting in. A normal person who happens to be average or below average looking, will lose more self esteem and more time with each rejection. But in the end if he gets pussy that boosts his ego and make him happy, then it all balances out. Personally, I think that is an utterly stupid way to spend your time and energy. Yes, you'll get laid but the amount of effort you have to put in f…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 08:30 PM
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Sounds like a bit of "PUA woo woo magic", as Rollo put it. I am confident in myself. Hell, a lot of my friends thought I was arrogant when they first me. I'm mentally 'fit' and physically in shape. I started lifting ~1.5mo ago and love it both physically and mentally (And spiritually ofc, Church of Iron <3). Problem is, I'm also young as fuck (20) and in university currently so have no financial wealth and no career. Uni culture is also not very conducive with improving yourself and is built on …
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 10:09 AM
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I'm not doubting that at all. But do you think that level of attractiveness is attainable for all guys? And if so, within reach in a reasonable time period since the first comment is suggesting you forget about girls altogether. Even if all of the above is true you still need to put yourself in situations where they can open you, no? If you work as a programmer, have male dominated hobbies and don't enjoy nightlife then you have next to no exposure to women.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 08:09 AM
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I disagree with the notion you'll magically take action when you're 'ready' (Whatever that means), but that is besides the point because it's not what he was implying.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 04:45 AM
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So you are saying if you take zero action you will still get women if your house is in order because they just come to you. How do women have the chance to come to you if you don't put yourself in situations where there are women available? I don't see how having your shit together negates the need to take action in some way unless you are already surrounded by women (In which case you need no help), happen to have hobbies/participate in activities where women are in abundance or have a social c…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 03:16 AM
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“Women are not your goal, better version of yourself is” Just improve yourself financially, physically, mentally and forget about the girls. And then what? Girls won't just fall into your lap most of the time.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 01:47 AM
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I tried that at one point for a month or two but didn't feel a change in my general attitude so stopped holding back. Maybe things are different now that I'm lifting.
/r/askTRP19/10/18 11:25 PM
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Calm the fuck down. Your normal. It's not something I'm overly concerned about lol. It has just been on my mind lately. Your friends are prob blue pilled af Yes, definitely. Regardless if you think its a coping mechanism then test that theory. Go fuck women. If it comes easy then your good. If you have trouble then most likely it was a coping mechanism for not getting laid. Inaction is cancerious. Thanks for the input. I like that idea.
/r/askTRP19/10/18 10:52 AM
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I don't really know or understand what my issue is or if I have an issue. That's kind of why I posted, to try and get other perspectives on this. I feel happy and fulfilled in my life as it is, it just feels kind weird to me that I am not keen to chase women when it's what all my peers are doing and it seems like something that should come naturally to a man. It's not that I'm not horny, it's that my horny-ness isn't enough to overcome my apathy. Do you think it's normal to feel this way? I've t…
/r/askTRP19/10/18 10:45 AM
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How old are you?
/r/askTRP18/10/18 10:41 PM
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What I meant is do you think young guys effectively go 'monk mode' and do focus on the things you listed or still spend time trying to get girls and just accept the odds aren't in your favour while also working on yourself.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/18 07:13 AM
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What I should have done was told her NO when she asked to come over every day, limited it to a couple nights a week and spent that free time making friends and picking up other girls Yeah if you spend that much time with anyone you're going to form a connection with them.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/18 03:42 AM
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Is there any science on pair bonding or is this a 'broscience' RP theory?
/r/TheRedPill15/10/18 03:30 AM
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What should young guys do then, in your opinion?
/r/TheRedPill15/10/18 12:34 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that man :/. I don't really know what to suggest other than slowly build yourself up. Rome wasn't built in a day, it takes time to develop an IDGAF attitude. Hopefully you can overcome the trauma you've sustained and come out the other side a better man :)
/r/TheRedPill12/10/18 08:56 PM
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quibbling dominance-sorting banter... There should be no dominance-sorting banter. You are the dominant one who sets the frame. If you can't be bothered with her stupid comment then you show her that with your body language and words (Optional). Most of the time if you give people (Girls in particular) the cold shoulder they wonder what they've done wrong and get nervous which works in your favour.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/18 08:42 PM
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When you go further, though, to society-wide issues, there is no escaping the need to examine things further. I assume you're talking about the same sort of thing Rollo Tomassi talks about a lot with the Feminine Imperative and such?
/r/TheRedPill12/10/18 07:44 PM
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Out of interest, how many girls do you approach to get those dates? I.e. what's your success rate.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/18 12:23 AM
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What sort of work do you do, what's your skillset and how'd you acquire it? I did programming in high school and think I have a solid base of knowledge (I've done a bit of OOP and the basic concepts are like second nature to me). I'm in uni for engineering right now but programming has always interested me.
/r/MGTOW05/04/18 08:58 AM
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Well I don't think you can go much more basic than those things.. Trial and error will always help you
/r/seduction05/10/16 12:07 PM
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There's no magic pill. I guess Tinder/online dating would be your quickest bet, but ultimately building a social circle would benefit you in the long run
/r/seduction15/08/16 04:02 AM
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I think double entendres are better than straight up innuendos for sexualising. IMO, sounds like you should make it more personal and related to her rather than just common interests. Her passions/goals/views something like that, because then you can create an emotional connection. I'm also a big believer in having a sexual vibe about you. The way you're talking and looking at a girl. People say it on here a lot that it doesn't matter what you say, IMO this is true. Eye contact, tonality and tou…
/r/seduction11/08/16 08:21 AM
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He's saying being vulnerable isn't blurting out lets go on a date as soon as you've met the girl even thought I guess you could say it's showing intent
/r/seduction11/08/16 08:02 AM
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To me its more about there actually being the interest in such a guide rather than the need for attention, though I guess that there will be a lot of people interested in something like that. Which leaves me a little confused about why he said 100 up votes..
/r/seduction09/08/16 10:46 AM
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I don't know where in this sub you're getting the idea that looks are above all else. Looking good, dressing sharp and having good hygiene are all recommended but in terms of genetics it's more along the lines of use what you've got. 'Game' is such a broad term when you're basically trying to describe living a fulfilled life as an 'alpha' man and being the best version of yourself.
/r/seduction09/08/16 10:36 AM
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I feel like that was satire..
/r/seduction09/08/16 04:43 AM
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IMO, arrogance is "I am the best" whereas confidence is "I am comfortable with myself". Arrogance is kind of a proving mindset, like you have to prove to everyone you're great. Confidence is just knowing you're cool/chill/whatever without having the need to tell other people.
/r/seduction07/08/16 11:31 PM
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I don't think either are bad at all since you're still taking action, obviously over time you can progress to a direct approach. This is coming from a guy who still struggles to approach, though. Maybe a more experienced guy will have a better way to go about it.
/r/seduction06/08/16 01:19 AM
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Like asking for the time? Or just an observational opener?
/r/seduction06/08/16 01:08 AM
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I'd only cut a girl off if I needed time to get over her
/r/seduction31/07/16 08:21 AM
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I'd have to agree with you. It's one reason why I take everything girls say with a grain of salt, often they're just doing/saying what their girlfriends say or gut instinct/whatever they feel like. At least in my experience
/r/seduction31/07/16 08:20 AM
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Vulnerability doesn't mean spewing out all your personal stuff. It just means (In my eyes) showing your intent honestly. Mystery is more about what you do and act. Unpredictability. They're different and I think you can easily have both
/r/seduction21/07/16 03:55 AM
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Umm what. He is fucking her, but he doesn't know if they're compatible
/r/seduction20/07/16 12:52 PM
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Talking about fucking each other seems weird to me if you haven't already fucked her..
/r/seduction20/07/16 09:22 AM
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From my very beginning point I just internalised the mindsets. I was like, "Hey yeah why should I treat women like they're special just because they're women? (Pedestal for an example). That worked for me at the start and made me overall more confident as a person. Luckily for me the girl I was chasing had almost no experience and was attracted to me (She'd made a rule to herself no guys that year, though). So for almost the entire year I hung out with this girl, not making a proper move for mor…
/r/seduction17/07/16 07:44 PM
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I think of teasing and bantering as basically the same btw. I teased her about her accent since she was British, that she didn't talk to her parents and I did all the work and why she was special in her eyes. There wasn't much talking man, I think I talked to her about where she lived and how she was so chill with me approaching her and maybe one or two other things? I think the talking is really just a vehicle, I talked about whatever I wanted to in that moment. If I wasn't talking I wasn't jus…
/r/seduction17/07/16 09:31 AM
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That's why I say it's partly luck and the girl being down for it. I do think I got lucky, but me knowing some of the seduction stuff definitely helped. Also what helped a lot IMO was the fact I made strong eye contact multiple times with her, by the time I sat down in the restaurant it was almost like an inside joke to me. That doesn't usually happen since you'd normally approach almost immediately
/r/seduction17/07/16 06:08 AM
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Eh dude I'm pretty sure it's a combination of luck, having balls, knowing stuff and the girl actually being down for it. I'm no dime when it comes to physical appearance (IMO) but I am in shape. I think you're slightly missing the point of the FR though. No fucking way that went as well as it did without at least holding the eye contact even if I was a 10
/r/seduction17/07/16 05:22 AM
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Dude doing kickboxing/MMA is awesome to me haha. I'd be fascinated rather than scared
/r/seduction17/07/16 03:19 AM
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I don't feel I have enough experience or pushed myself enough to warrant settling with a girl right now. I think I would have taken the loss but surprisingly she said she'd try it
/r/seduction17/07/16 03:15 AM
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Dude confidence is very attractive to women, but IMO it comes after you sort your shit out. I think of it as the by product of being attractive/having attractive qualities or traits. Maybe you're thinking of confidence in a different way to Manson?
/r/seduction17/07/16 02:26 AM
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This is basically all answered in the sidebar I think... If not there's a bunch of PUA material out there for the basics
/r/seduction17/07/16 01:37 AM
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I'm 18, she looked around my age but I don't know haha. That was my last day there :(
/r/seduction17/07/16 01:35 AM
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There was definitely a thread there with the "I have Irish blood in me". You can ask her about that. The "You're looking pretty pale" was really nice IMO, good observation that kept the convo going and gave you another thread of work with, albeit if you didn't use it haha. Remember you just approached a total stranger, you need to make some friendly talk to build a little rapport before you start 'hitting on' her. Banter and teasing is the best way to build attraction and flirt, that's how you c…
/r/seduction16/07/16 09:31 PM
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IMO, it all depends on your personal style. If you're high energy then yeah being excited and bubbly might work, but no point trying to be excited when you're naturally a quiet person
/r/seduction16/07/16 08:11 AM
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That's the hook up culture rather than pick up, IMO
/r/seduction14/07/16 11:29 AM
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Though this is a harsh rejection, you can reduce the severity by the way you go about showing interest. Dumping all your feelings onto her at once is generally not a great move because it puts her under a lot of pressure and if you hadn't shown previous intent it'd probably freak her out a little because she only thought of you as a friend. Anyway as other posters have said it can only get better for you from here :)
/r/seduction12/07/16 07:10 PM
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Putting her hand on your private part......shows that you have balls I laughed, well done OP
/r/seduction12/07/16 04:03 PM
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I'd have to move country ha. Which I can't do cause uni :/
/r/seduction07/07/16 09:55 AM
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Doesn't make her out of your league. Most people don't think about leagues in the way you're thinking right now, not to say I disagree with you.
/r/seduction04/07/16 09:25 PM
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Doesn't make her out of your league. Most people don't think about leagues in the way you're thinking right now, not to so I disagree with you.
/r/seduction04/07/16 09:23 PM
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He's saying you're being more specific with your 'leagues' than most would. Most dudes would simply LOOK at the girl and if she's hot then she's out of his league, nothing to do with their status or other qualities.
/r/seduction04/07/16 08:56 PM
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Throw it out if you geniunely mean it, or as a playful/sarcastic remark. It doesn't seem like a very special line... Just a neg really.
/r/seduction04/07/16 08:50 PM
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Ok. Well you definitely need a hobby haha. Something you can be passionate about and something you find interesting. That's part of building up the person you want to be. Adopting new mindsets is also important and should help you move away from you current self because they'll provide fresh views on things which will change how you act. This was a big thing for me when I found the "pick up" material. Just in terms of my life, it helped me. Well, if you want to express your personality you have …
/r/seduction04/07/16 07:26 AM
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Dude. That stuff is thing you ADD to interactions to change them from platonic to sexual. If you can't hold an interesting platonic interaction you can't have an interesting one where you're showing interest the girl Sounds like you can't keep a conversation going if it's awkward and boringness could be lack of passion in the conversation or shitty topics. Possibly both. Look up conversation threading, either in seddit or just google.
/r/seduction04/07/16 07:01 AM
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That is social skills bro. Social calibration. The "game" is generally to do with things like building attraction, showing value, qualifying and building comfort. But you need the social skills to go with it...
/r/seduction04/07/16 06:40 AM
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Get yourself a small routine to help out at start then. Eliminates your not knowing what to say and serves to get you into the conversation, after that you can continue naturally.
/r/seduction04/07/16 06:36 AM
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They aren't agreeing because he says he has a gf. They're agreeing despite it
/r/seduction03/07/16 05:42 PM
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Yeah you're right and I get that. I'm asking how can I begin to make it part of my reality
/r/seduction02/07/16 02:35 PM
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You said you haven't been to a nightclub before so this guy might have more field experience...
/r/seduction02/07/16 08:46 AM
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Um no I can't realistically imagine results. It still seems like a bit of a fantasy to me, I don't know how to get rid of this mindset
/r/seduction01/07/16 09:32 PM
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A small thing that stands out to me is your text to them. Sending "hello" or "what's up" isn't good IMO. It's boring and they're either going to reply with something like, "hey not much" maybe with a "how about you" chucked in there, or actually start telling you about what they've been up to. Use some callback humour or some sort of reference to your previous interaction in your texts
/r/seduction01/07/16 09:03 AM
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There are a lot of harsh people on the sub, but sometimes they're right. I don't think you were 'droning on about your awesomeness' though. I don't like the movie date because I could go to it with anyone, you don't really interact with the person for the whole time
/r/seduction20/06/16 01:15 PM
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I'm trying to understand what I've actually done to create the situation that I've got right now... I'm not overthinking shit like does she like me. I was carrying condoms, she insisted she be on the pill anyway though. I asked her if she wanted to have sex and she said she wanted to but needed to be on the pill. I'm not trying to be mysterious, I'm interested in understanding why she feels that way so I can work out what things I did caused it. I'm sorry my vernacular isn't the same as yours To…
/r/seduction20/06/16 12:14 PM
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I'm 18 at uni as well man. I think it's different for people our age because everyone is constantly on social media and chatting via messages. I'd say as long as you aren't texting about pointless shit then I'd say go ahead and text em. Some girls like to text and they'll want to text you a lot so let them
/r/seduction20/06/16 10:51 AM
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Looks mean nothing without a person behind them. From your post it sounds like you haven't browsed the sub much yet
/r/seduction20/06/16 04:13 AM
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I don't think you have to be happy with your current situation. But make sure that once you have some success, (Which I guess is effectively the same as improving) you actually celebrate it. I do think while having your happiness tied to your improvement could be good to start with, but if you start plateauing you might not be as happy. Eventually you want your happiness to be tied to nothing and come completely from within you
/r/seduction19/06/16 09:00 AM
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Have a routine then. Work out something you want to say and do it. Once you've got into the right mindset you can leave the routine behind and improv it when you approach
/r/seduction18/06/16 01:45 AM
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Accept and then improve. Accept your position right now and make the decision to improve upon it
/r/seduction18/06/16 01:44 AM
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Wow that's actually really cool. Sounds like having an experienced guy there to help you out made a big difference. Nice job OP and hope you keep it up :)
/r/seduction17/06/16 09:53 PM
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The only description that makes sense to me is the Guru. All the others seems pretty vague
/r/seduction17/06/16 09:48 PM
1

That sounds pretty corny to me and putting a bit of pressure on it like its a big thing
/r/seduction16/06/16 11:11 AM
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Classic overthinking. Do something man.
/r/seduction15/06/16 10:16 PM
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Really? I've always thought of a pull as taking a girl to a different setting. Like club > coffee/home/not another club/whatever
/r/seduction15/06/16 10:14 PM
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As a guy, it's way more uncomfortable to walk with my arm wrapped around a girl compared to just holding her hand. It's just some form of intimacy that's easy to do when I'm walking.
/r/seduction15/06/16 09:58 PM
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On the thoughts, I find most of the time I'm in 'state' I'm not thinking about anything and stuff comes out of my mouth only when I need it. For me the hardest part was speed of talking because sometimes I'd just talk a lot, quickly
/r/seduction15/06/16 09:17 PM
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So when they congratulate you, that's when you should deal with it... It's not hard. Either exaggerate and be like yeah we're getting married next week to joke for a little more, or just tell them like, "Oh [Friend] thought it'd be funny to do this".
/r/seduction15/06/16 09:14 PM
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If you don't pull a move and you want something more you're just hurting yourself in the long run. Being friends is playing it safe, why not just make moves and she doesn't see you like that then become friends with her if she's cool
/r/seduction13/06/16 11:11 PM
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Dude, if I could either get 20 hot girl friends or fuck 20 hot girls I'd choose the friends because then you can meet more and they might be really cool. Generally dudes get friendzoned when they're after a girl they want though, not just a passing impulse. It's basically when you put the girl on the pedestal and then you're too scared to show intent, IMO.
/r/seduction13/06/16 10:17 PM
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Because you're not fucking the girls... That why people don't like it.
/r/seduction13/06/16 10:11 PM
6

If he had a positive attitude he would begin fixing his problems
/r/seduction12/06/16 05:00 AM
11

You could have 4 dates, morn and night for 2 days, not touch her once and I'd say you're going too slow still. It's not about the length of time between 'dates'/hangouts/meet ups whatever you wanna call it. It's how much you escalate when you do spend time with her. I think you're going slow because: You met her 3w ago then asked her out and met up a week later. That's a month after you met her You didn't kiss or hold her hand. To me, that's slow but I concede that some girls wouldn't be comfort…
/r/seduction11/06/16 11:10 PM
2

I'd default to, "I'm being a pussy" because you're biased. You can't tell why you're doing it, so if you don't try then you won't ever succeed if you are actually into the girl. I've been in this situation before and decided I was a pussy, turned out I was and it worked out for me. Oh and one other thing, sometimes escalation will create some attraction for you.
/r/seduction11/06/16 10:25 PM
8

I don't think you need to call it a date, as long as you show intent and escalate a little. IMO, you're moving a bit slow but good luck.
/r/seduction11/06/16 10:21 PM
3

Depends. There are things that people will feel awkward doing but they actually should be doing it. Like eye contact for instance will feel very awkward for people who don't make and hold strong eye contact often
/r/seduction11/06/16 12:25 PM
1

To express some intent
/r/seduction05/06/16 11:13 PM
0

That's a bit of an arrogant point of view. In your own country of course you think that every other country has an accent and you don't, but that's not true. There is no "neutral" worldwide accent.
/r/seduction05/06/16 01:33 AM
20

Everyone has an accent, we just don't notice it
/r/seduction05/06/16 01:24 AM
4

It's fine. The more in depth the better IMO
/r/seduction22/05/16 08:09 AM
2

You might have it, but you clearly don't believe it or have adopted in into your mindset otherwise you would be taking action. Example: You understand and believe that opening a girl is no big deal, it's you expressing the idea that you could potentially be a match. So you take action and open girls. Versus, you understand that opening girls is no big deal, but you do not believe it so you let your brain convince you otherwise. But part of the whole thing is that actions and reference experience…
/r/seduction22/05/16 04:12 AM
1

This is only good if you ease into it. I can't remember what the term for it was, but if you jump into the deep end it doesn't neccesarily ease your anxiety.
/r/seduction22/05/16 04:04 AM
1

I'm not sure you need a therapist... Some self reflection and maybe talking with friends if you need to should let you figure it out. Though I can guess what the problem is.
/r/seduction21/05/16 11:39 PM
1

So, you rocked up to a club that was dead, you weren't in state and didn't try to get in state and because other people weren't doing stuff you didn't do stuff either. IMO drinking does one thing more than anything: reduce inhibitions. Saying the rave was "the most annoying thing for you" doesn't actually describe what part of it you didn't like. Loud music? People packed together dancing? That's what I love about clubs. You have to actually immerse yourself into whatever you're doing before you…
/r/seduction20/05/16 05:06 AM
1

In the context of seduction I like to think about this as similar to limiting beliefs but also in terms of just jumping in and taking action. You don't know what will happen, so jump in and find out.
/r/seduction20/05/16 04:54 AM
0

To me it's both of you having fun in a "Man to Woman" way. Teasing and banter that's slightly sexual. Tonality and eye contact is a big part IMO
/r/seduction17/05/16 02:38 AM
1

Ahh. I see it as a bonus. Like your average person doesn't do this stuff so I want to step up and be a cut above.
/r/seduction17/05/16 12:18 AM
7

See an attractive woman? Bam, approach her in 3 sec or less. You just count down then go.
/r/seduction16/05/16 10:53 PM
1

I disagree that you don't need to know about self amusement, etc. Even 'naturals' know about these things, just not consciously. Approach anxiety will always be there, so will being concerned about what people think about you to a certain extent. It's built into us, there's no one with zero AA and who doesn't give a fuck all the time. I've seen RSD vids where the instructors have been giving an example of them going out and they've been saying, "Yeah I was in my head a bit to start with". IMO, i…
/r/seduction16/05/16 10:51 PM
1

Is this night game? If so there's plenty of things you can do to continue the interaction with little effort like moving the set to get a drink, dancing or even just being silent and letting her do a bit of talking. For Daygame you can just ask more questions that aren't the normal interview type. Comment on things she's wearing/her behaviours. Also 4 girls probably isn't enough to get you warmed up during the day since it's not so high energy. Something from RSD Julien is to comment on people a…
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:37 PM
1

This seems like your problem. Once you run out of interview questions the interaction doesn't progress. You need to ask less boring questions and more spontaneous, random ones. Or make statements that lead into conversation.
/r/seduction16/05/16 11:58 AM
1

This. You can't just machine gun them out at her, you have to do it in the right way.
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:32 AM
1

RSD in general all of them are big, personal preference on who you like most. Sacha Daygame. Mark Manson for his book. That's who I think of off the top of my head.
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:32 AM
1

I think this is more a motivational article rather than one for improving your game. Also a reminder to guys to actually take action. When he says the traits don't matter, I do not believe for a second that's true. An attractive man does NOT just have confidence. Confidence is the by product of having those traits, you can't skip those and go straight to confidence.
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:29 AM
2

You say you're a not a club guy, but you've never been to a bar. I understand that's possible but it seems a bit weird to me you've been to clubs but not bars... Or do you just think you're not a club guy?
/r/seduction16/05/16 02:36 AM
3

Why do you need the products? RSD has so much free material it's just ridiculous.
/r/seduction16/05/16 02:25 AM
1

Can you elaborate a bit more? Do you mean things like, where you're from or do you mean things like favourite colour or do you mean more general than that?
/r/seduction16/05/16 02:05 AM
1

By logical I don't mean routines. I just mean more technique orientated. For instance RSD Luke preaches tease/break rapport > qualify > reward/punish depending on her response. I guess you could say that it's a routine, but it's not going to be exactly the same every time. I understand what you're saying about long term self development though.
/r/seduction16/05/16 01:57 AM
1

If you're loosened up and on a social mood it will come naturally. You can always just go up and say hey how's it going or hi my names ___. The open doesn't matter as long as you open.
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:34 AM
1

It sounds like you're running a routine that after 10min is over. Do you talk about the same topics for every conversation?
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:31 AM
0

You don't know that though, you just think it. What if it's actually their little way of telling you they're into you? I'm not saying spam approach girls because every single one of them might be into you, but that thinking could limit you from approaching a girl you think looks super cool just because, oh she's giving me an IoD.
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:28 AM
1

To be fair, there's a boatload of material on all those newbie subjects all over the web and here on seddit. I honestly find material like this article only good for reminding me of my mindset and maybe some motivation.
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:24 AM
5

Do it more. That's literally the only way to get better. Understand that it's not creepy to make eye contact with people, it's part of communication. Strong eye contact =/= staring. Walk down the street/mall/whatever and just try to make eye contact with strangers, chances are a lot of them won't even look at you. If you flinch away when you make eye contact, hold it for slightly longer next time. Keep doing it until you're comfortable.
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:22 AM
1

I don't disagree, approaching is fucking hard to get into but I think you're overthinking this. I'm doubting that random girls will cover their boobs just to give you an IoD so you don't approach them on the street, unless you look creepy. The question is, have you approached girls when they do this? Because that's the only sure fire way to find the answer to your question.
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:18 AM
2

I have no idea. I don't know how you acted when she was over. Maybe you didn't show intent or didn't escalate enough or create enough attraction, it's almost impossible to say without being there. I think you should think through the interaction for yourself and think about what you could have done because then you'll learn from that experience.
/r/seduction16/05/16 12:06 AM
5

Nothing happened because you did nothing. You touched her a little, that's all. You needed to escalate, or build attraction if you thought she as the into it.
/r/seduction15/05/16 11:50 PM
2

Fuck me sideways, does it even matter? If you want to approach just approach.
/r/seduction15/05/16 11:45 PM
2

Or they are 'better' than you for another way to describe it
/r/seduction14/05/16 08:30 AM
2

I think I've read about freezing the girl out in this situation saying something to make her feel comfortable with you.
/r/seduction13/05/16 07:38 AM
2

I get flak for not drinking at pres, but once I'm at the bar/club with my friends no one cares. Sometimes I have a couple of drinks just to get people off my back, but other than I don't really drink. As long as you've got a drink in your hand people generally don't look twice.
/r/seduction13/05/16 05:53 AM
1

So he was into her and she might not have been into him. IMO the guy have joked about them being together to play it off, but still build the idea of them being together.
/r/seduction11/05/16 02:27 AM
2

Sometimes it's just too much even if they find it funny, later on they might go, "TigerChirp just teased me/gave me shit for the whole date :/"
/r/seduction11/05/16 02:25 AM
3

You say you're cool with his decision, that's good. For me, I'm happy just because that's me now. I'm a fucking happy person. If you're neutral on his decision simply be happy because of YOU. You don't have to be ecstatic about HIS wedding
/r/seduction11/05/16 02:22 AM
1

I met a girl when I was a complete chump and didn't want to fuck it up. I found pick up and then the mindsets of pick up basically revolutionised my whole outlook on people, myself and life as a whole really. I started learning to get the girl but in the end I was (and still am) learning because I wanted to better myself.
/r/seduction11/05/16 02:17 AM
3

They attracted a woman because they were attractive. You don't have to have sex to be attractive.
/r/seduction10/05/16 09:18 AM
1

Umm no. I'm not jacked but I'm definitely in shape and feel good about it.
/r/seduction10/05/16 04:57 AM
2

The only way I see it having happened is that she was always into him and then he made a move.
/r/seduction10/05/16 04:16 AM
4

Who cares what they think man? It's sounds so cliche, but it's fucking true. You can be a confident, charismatic, well dressed man without having had sex no? It just so happens that most of those men have had sex because they attracted a woman.
/r/seduction10/05/16 04:15 AM
2

I use silence sometimes and get the "what?!" reaction (Not because I'm trying for that reaction) and then continue with regular conversation. Do you try to build on that reaction and escalate/get make flirty/etc? Or just keep conversing normally sprinkling it in and slowly building the tension?
/r/seduction09/05/16 10:38 AM
3

In my opinion, that's just not practical. It's basically asking for a magic bullet but I guess if there was one thing I'd say, get your life and mind in order.
/r/seduction09/05/16 10:31 AM
2

It's got nothing to do with age, it's just people skills. Some people learn young, others when they're older. But in the end pretty much everyone can learn the skills.
/r/seduction09/05/16 05:19 AM
1

It sounds like you need to work on self amusement. In your future conversations with people, try to amuse yourself with the topics, banter, whatever. When you have a good time you draw other people into that mood as well. Of course self amusement isn't everything, but it sounds like it would help you
/r/seduction09/05/16 05:17 AM
5

The way you worded leaves room to interpret it as you were volunteering to meet women, I believe that's what the other poster was getting at
/r/seduction09/05/16 05:15 AM
1

If you're alienating them I think it will be the way you talk about it. Travelling let's you experience so much that you can share with others. I view talking about my experiences as giving value, so the more I have the better! Maybe you aren't coming from a value giving mindset or talking very superficially about your travels
/r/seduction09/05/16 05:12 AM
1

Sometimes I flip the question back onto them, I can't think of an example right now though.
/r/seduction09/05/16 05:08 AM
1

Yeah I've only been out a couple of nights though. Been to Bar101 for an event and then 1885, Roxy and Bar101 again a different night
/r/seduction09/05/16 02:18 AM
1

It could be that when you go for a girl you fall out of that party/fun guy and act different because it's an attractive girls you're talking to.
/r/seduction07/05/16 10:40 PM
1

Live in NZ as well, ChCh for uni now but visited auck and been out a few nights? I'm actually interested to know how NZ clubs compare to other places in the world. Feels real small time... Social circle seems to be the best way at uni though so I can't talk about cold approach in a club
/r/seduction07/05/16 10:37 PM
2

I love this quote. It really resonates with me
/r/seduction04/05/16 09:37 PM
6

What I got from that article is trying to offer advice to a woman results in them being annoyed at you for not understanding their point of view. If you can only affirm women, how can you solve problems with them? That's my question.
/r/seduction04/05/16 08:43 AM
1

You don't understand his view because you've basically said, no your way is wrong you should approach more and put yourself out there.
/r/seduction04/05/16 01:49 AM
1

Trying to understand this mindset, you're saying you don't interact with people in such a polarising way that they either reject or accept you? What do you mean results orientated? Like, I got the girl or I didn't instead of, I got rejected or I got the girl?
/r/seduction03/05/16 09:41 PM
2

You're not being fun or engaging towards the girl. You need better conversation topics than what she does for a living. Talk about literally anything that you want.
/r/seduction02/05/16 01:25 PM
1

Meet and talk to new people as much as you can. Go to social events as much as you can.
/r/seduction02/05/16 02:37 AM
1

Make your social circle as big as you can and fill it with as many hot/interesting/funny girls and cool dudes as you can. Social proof means a lot
/r/seduction02/05/16 02:26 AM
2

Fuck yes man. The mindset of pick up gave me confidence and let me see my true value as a person. Once I changed, I never looked back
/r/seduction02/05/16 02:23 AM
1

I've just turned 18, at uni, been looking at stuff for a while and it definitely seems to me that social circle is the best way to do it at our age. Course at parties you can talk to anyone, but you already have the social connection of both being at the same party. I don't think there's things you should ignore, but use the social aspects of game more than the techniques
/r/seduction02/05/16 02:19 AM
22

Only an engineer would write a literal field report about his night out haha
/r/seduction01/05/16 11:15 AM
1

Be fucking spontaneous. Do shit just because it's funny, always be thinking "how can I make this epic?".
/r/seduction01/05/16 04:01 AM
1

You could become a social person though. It's a choice you've made to not be social. To me, dealing with it is the worse way to go. It's trying to band aid your problem instead of fix it. By fixing it you can become a better version of yourself
/r/seduction23/04/16 11:28 AM
1

They don't sound like great friends to me...
/r/seduction23/04/16 11:26 AM
1

You're right, bitch is short for female dog not women. Cool. Nice that you believe that. It doesn't really matter in the scheme of things. Its a minor fucking detail and doesn't have anything to do with seduction apart from the fact that it makes people's life easier when writing a FR
/r/seduction23/04/16 11:25 AM
1

If they're your friends, they should be more than happy to talk to you and try to help you out. Maybe you need to work on making stronger connections with people?
/r/seduction23/04/16 06:11 AM
1

What. It's just a short hand way to say things man. What you're suggesting is like saying oh because you use text language you're clearly an idiot because you don't think in full words
/r/seduction23/04/16 06:10 AM
1

Not impossible, but it's damn hard to meet people when you have no friend and don't put in any effort to make any
/r/seduction23/04/16 06:07 AM
1

Bro, it's just jargon. Don't think more of it than that.
/r/seduction23/04/16 05:57 AM
1

Ha /u/DaygameCoach is right. "Come back in 5 years when you're ready to improve yourself and be genuine with women". To me, most of what is being taught is about recreating yourself into your ideal man. Improving yourself so you can be a confident individual who gives others value. Sure there are some techniques which can help attract women such as push pull and the likes of that, but they ultimately create a fun, exciting experience for women. I don't see how any of this is deceitful and not ge…
/r/seduction22/04/16 09:40 PM
1

You have to a open to new ideas and perceptions. Read the sidebar to start with if you want to begin making a change
/r/seduction22/04/16 07:43 PM
1

I didn't used to be a touchy person, but I've grown to enjoy showing affection through touching. I'm not sure what else to say other than try to incorporate touching into interactions with everyone. Someone says something funny? Touch them on the arm. Give people hugs, give them high 5's when you agree with them or they do something cool
/r/seduction17/04/16 11:05 AM
3

Can you give an example of the right amount of intent?
/r/seduction16/04/16 09:59 PM
3

Well, if you keep believing that nothing is going to change. You have to actually, want to change and believe that's possible
/r/seduction16/04/16 04:02 AM
1

Is touching & eye contact enough intent? If not can you give some examples
/r/seduction16/04/16 04:00 AM
1

The fact that you put her on a pedestal because she was hot
/r/seduction16/04/16 02:30 AM
12

Context
/r/seduction10/04/16 11:27 AM
2

Confidence in life doesn't neccesarily equate to confidence with women IMO. Read the side bar, learn about kino, eye contact, etc.
/r/seduction09/04/16 06:56 AM
1

Yes, I enjoy making eye contact and smiling at people. I don't smile because I have to.
/r/seduction07/04/16 08:40 PM
3

Ah yes missed that at the top. Nevertheless, I just found the fact that the experiment was no smiling just eye contact interesting. I've found that when I smile most people smile back, but I can definitely understand the compliance aspect
/r/seduction07/04/16 08:17 AM
24

The one thing which stands out to me in this post is tha fact you're saying not to smile. It seems weird for me to not smile when I make eye contact with someone.
/r/seduction07/04/16 05:12 AM
1

Would you prefer not knowing what you did wrong and leaving them behind, or possibly finding out and learning from it and maybe seeming strange. If they're not part of your life now anyway I'd definitely try to find out so I can improve
/r/seduction06/04/16 02:23 AM
3

I think pursuing would be a better word than chasing for the OP
/r/seduction03/04/16 08:44 PM
1

Did I write in my post that I disagree with men making the first move? No. What I'm saying is there's no good reason for only men to approach, women would have a better chance with a partner of their choice.
/r/seduction02/04/16 06:42 PM
1

Fair enough if it pertains to you. Personally, I enjoy leading and wouldn't take a woman setting up a date as the opportunity for me to be lazy and not make anything happen again
/r/seduction02/04/16 06:06 AM
2

Why can you not just text him as set a time yourself? You can make it straight forward, no bullshit for both of you.
/r/seduction02/04/16 05:54 AM
1

Could that not also work in reverse. If a woman is interested in a man there is no excuse why she should make the first move. Though it may be socially accepted for the man to approach the woman women are missing out on opportunities through this, so don't complain that men don't make the first move when women are just as capable of making something happen.
/r/seduction02/04/16 05:51 AM
2

What do you mean by this? Get our lives together so when we are 25 we have a good base? Interact with lots of women to get experience?
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:09 AM
1

Would say a scam.
/r/seduction19/03/16 11:36 AM
5

Dude she's purposefully fucking with you. She's being fucking petty, don't worry about her at all.
/r/seduction18/03/16 09:04 AM
1

I was taking that from the video, summing it up the best I could. That's RSD Todds view on negs. If you're saying he's plagiarising from mystery fine, but I was both showing the video and asking for help on this technique
/r/seduction12/03/16 05:29 AM
1

What sort of advice is poor advice which wouldn't work on you or anyone you know?
/r/seduction06/03/16 07:47 AM
3

Does it even matter if you get lipstick on your face? Not really
/r/seduction26/02/16 08:21 AM
-8

Right... But it's kind of useless to anyone else isn't it?
/r/seduction26/02/16 02:38 AM
-4

Is it that big of a deal? I've taken out the conversation but could you enlighten me?
/r/seduction26/02/16 02:31 AM
10

Why do you have to take a girl out to do something that costs money?
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:21 PM
1

I think of the flairs as like a reward for good FR's and posts etc. Not a be all and end all. But some people would inevitably think that someone who has flair is 100% correct all the time. I do think that people would listen to flaired > no flair, which would be an issue though it would be good to acknowledge people ls contribution to the sub
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:19 PM
2

Sounds like a great idea!
/r/seduction25/02/16 02:52 AM
1

I look forwards to the slightly harder challenges, keep them coming :)
/r/seduction25/02/16 01:33 AM
1

I think I'd prefer body weight training over weights, but as soon as I can go to my uni gym I'll start doing something
/r/seduction19/02/16 09:36 PM
1

Hmm well I don't really feel stressed, I've just been chilling out before lectures start
/r/seduction19/02/16 09:35 PM
1

Once every 2 days/daily so I might just still be adjusting back to normal
/r/seduction19/02/16 09:34 PM
1

I don't lift weights, but the Uni does have a gym so maybe I'll join. I have been eating big meals but we eat what we get given so I can't really control that
/r/seduction19/02/16 11:50 AM
4

Lol nice satire
/r/seduction16/01/16 10:06 AM
1

Pretty sure his first post was satire, bro
/r/seduction16/01/16 05:22 AM
1

RSD Luke RSD Max RSD Todd
/r/seduction16/01/16 01:46 AM
1

What he's saying is that going for women can fuck up your self improvement and you'll improve a lot more if you leave them out for a little while. By the way, a thing I've seen taught on the sub is that women are not necessary, only an addition to your already cool life. Because dependence on women is not fun for you.
/r/seduction14/01/16 09:28 PM
1

Ha wow. I think if I called any of the girls I talked to peasants they'd be fine with it. That's not even really offensive. I'd say as u/jb_trp said, let her text you. You've done nothing wrong.
/r/seduction10/01/16 08:30 AM
2

Until she's gives you a hard no is a better point I'd say
/r/seduction08/01/16 04:48 AM
2

Check out r/highseddit. There's a cool as dude called Justin who runs a YT channel and lives in Toronto I'm pretty sure, don't know whereabouts though. You might be able to go out with him if you're close. His reddit name is LyingPervert and he posts on /highseddit occasionally
/r/seduction08/01/16 04:46 AM
5

Something tells you you aren't a regular on this sub...
/r/seduction06/01/16 03:29 AM
1

Nuff said then haha
/r/seduction05/01/16 05:12 AM
1

Agree, I'm often high energy but sometimes I do just like to be quiet and chill. Really depends on your mood.
/r/seduction05/01/16 05:11 AM
2

Bro I love it when girls do that. It's just her being playful with you.
/r/seduction05/01/16 05:09 AM
5

Ahh the comments make a lot more sense now haha xP
/r/seduction05/01/16 03:16 AM
2

Sorry to digress from the topic, but I'm interested. I think 'saving' yourself to someone you care about is contrary to what others have said on this sub reddit. Why would virgins regret being with someone for just a hook up say for their first time? I'm a virgin myself so I have a vested interest you could say :P
/r/seduction05/01/16 03:15 AM
3

Chur another lefty :P. I prefer to turn to the left as well
/r/seduction05/01/16 03:07 AM
1

Try r/collegepickup. It's the new uni seddit I believe
/r/seduction03/01/16 09:02 AM
3

I like your, "so when am I coming over?". But in future if you offer a choice of days, or say "when are you free" you'll probably get a better response. Just be chill man, the date went well. She'll get back to you if she wants to see you again. Keep in mind people forget things so if she's not texting you give it another go before you stop pursuing
/r/seduction02/01/16 10:54 AM
10

Sidebar. Also check out r/highseddit But to be honest, you're 13. That seems awfully young to want to learn pick up. I'm not sure the girls you interact with would actually be onto enough to respond to the seduction techniques taught on the sub reddit
/r/seduction29/12/15 03:54 AM
1

Yep I agree. First kiss I fucked up trying to kiss her, she was shorter than me and I ended up just brushing noses with her haha. But then we kissed after that. OP you're letting her down. She WANTS you to kiss her. She really does. Don't keep her waiting.
/r/seduction19/12/15 05:03 AM
1

How do you make a girl feel special? Unique, genuine compliments is what I think, but what about how you act and talk to her?
/r/seduction19/12/15 03:47 AM
4

Uhm to me that seems like she's almost got a megaphone shouting in your ear, "I'M HITTING ON YOU!!!". You don't have to find her fascinating, just attractive. I remember when I hadn't kissed a girl (Not long ago) I didn't know if I wanted to pursue her because I didn't know if I was attracted to her. I was, I was just making bullshit excuses not to. I think you're in the same boat man. Don't let not knowing hold you back :)
/r/seduction18/12/15 11:58 PM
1

Thanks for the reply man. Yep I agree I've got a little one-itis. So you're saying if she's not DTF I should move on? She's a virgin and likes making out with me, won't let me go further though. Asked her what was up and she just said, "I don't want to". Not sure if that means she's not attracted to me enough (seems unlikely...) or she's just doing her virgin thing...
/r/seduction17/12/15 09:47 AM
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When I'm in my social mood I'm rather spontaneous unless what I'm going to say may offend people (In my view). I think as you say it's both about spontaneity and knowing automatically what to say. I have no clue how I know what to say. It just literally pops into my head and I don't even think before saying it, I'd say almost all the time it comes out just how I want it to. Probably because I'm fully relaxed so saying exactly what I want to say if that makes sense.
/r/seduction14/12/15 09:10 AM
1

Why have you been waiting for a signal? Why not escalate all the way through, until you get rejected or have sex? I was limited by me thinking she wasn't the kind of girl who I could keep escalating on because she was so shy. Also limited by the narrowness of my thinking. I fully agree with this part haha. Did she tell you? And if so, how did you deal with it? I mean, people say so many things they think they want, but it is rarely what they really want. She did tell me. I really just ignored it…
/r/seduction08/12/15 06:45 PM
2

It's outdated because it more for ONS kind of things. More outer game focused. What RSD and Seddit tries to teach is inner game. Strong core values that make you naturally attractive women, outer game is the thing that brings that inner game into the spotlight.
/r/seduction08/12/15 09:47 AM
1

I wouldn't be surprised if she was falling because this usually doesn't happen to her. But then again, from what you say she seems to be on and off with this behaviour. I really think that you need to try to determine for yourself if she's being genuine because a bunch of dudes on the internet can't be there to see her say it to you :P
/r/seduction08/12/15 09:44 AM
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I like the idea, but you are investing an awful lot into a person on a first date. I guess if you already know they aren't an asshole it would be fun, but I wouldn't want to be used on a date like that
/r/seduction08/12/15 05:17 AM
1

Fuck yeah I would. 1) I'm confident 2) I like messing around 3) I make everything more fun
/r/seduction05/12/15 02:48 AM
1

I know a girl just like this. She's super shy and doesn't like PDA. Super introverted and bloody hard to make something happen. It could be a bit of work for you
/r/seduction03/12/15 09:36 AM
1

I agree this guy sounds like a dick in this situation after re reading the OP. He doesn't seem to have the OP's best interests at heart and like you said, just getting some cheap laughs.
/r/seduction30/11/15 08:29 AM
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In one way he's a dick, in another way he's pushing the OP into unknown territory for him. Which is good because it's a new situation. OP, you just have to learn to own the moment. I used to get awkward about things like that, but now I just think, yes this is putting me on the spot, yes I'm ok with this and I show it though my words and body language.
/r/seduction29/11/15 12:33 AM
1

Honestly you may not be able to at all. Some shy girls give you nothing. It makes it pretty annoying
/r/seduction29/11/15 12:29 AM
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Are you sure you're in the right sub?
/r/seduction23/11/15 09:44 PM
1

Bad example, I know. But I couldn't think of anything else
/r/seduction22/11/15 04:54 AM
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But if you change it around it could work. If you say, pull my finger! Or whatever, then say, I thought you needed some cheering up
/r/seduction21/11/15 07:05 PM
2

You can begin by leading her around the museum by holding her hand, then escalate to your arm around to point at an exhibit or something
/r/seduction19/11/15 05:33 AM
3

There's an escalation ladder so girls don't freak. The point is to be calibrated so you know how quickly you can progress with each girl. Some girls might be fine with heavy kino rit off the bat, especially in a club setting. Others may only let you lightly touch them until you gain their trust. Assertive does not mean they have no choice, it means the man is simply leading the way. Women can at anytime say no to make the man (hopefully) stop. When you have people who don't stop, they are I cali…
/r/seduction19/11/15 05:30 AM
2

"I wanted to know if you were as interesting as you looked"
/r/seduction17/11/15 08:33 PM
3

Nope, same here to some extent. I don't really enjoy conversations with people that aren't on my level and it's much more fun when I can discuss things with someone of the same intelligence as me :)
/r/seduction16/11/15 05:03 AM
2

Strong eye contact and kino bro. Basically your bread and butter for escalation
/r/seduction16/11/15 05:00 AM
1

Probably feels weird because you're creating a little tension. Is it still weird if they smile back?
/r/seduction15/11/15 05:10 AM
1

This is good :P
/r/seduction11/11/15 08:43 PM
7

I think people need to stop taking nice guy literally though. On seddit nice guy is basically used to describe a type of guy who isn't their own man yet.
/r/seduction11/11/15 08:10 AM
4

Ok here's a question, do you want to hug her??? If the answer is yes and you've already built a connection, go in to hug her man. You're on the level to hug when you think you're on the level to hug. It's just like a kiss, but smaller scale. Also friends hug, it's just being friendly if anything.
/r/seduction08/11/15 07:57 AM
1

I can imagine a sly smirk accompanying the, "your loss" that might work with it, but other than that I agree its hard to make it sound neutral.
/r/seduction08/11/15 07:55 AM
2

Let's hope so...
/r/seduction06/11/15 08:07 PM
2

slow clap
/r/seduction06/11/15 03:58 AM
1

Love it. Now you gotta live by them ;)
/r/seduction05/11/15 02:29 AM
1

It actually took me a couple of reads for this to truly sink in. Women are ONLY a bonus, not our lives. I can live my life without women and still lead a great life :)
/r/seduction05/11/15 02:23 AM
3

I think overconfidence could easily be confused with cocky-funny since cockiness is kind of overconfidence in itself.
/r/seduction05/11/15 12:55 AM
1

For me it's all about getting creative. It's like, what can I say which is mildy related (or unrelated) to the current topic that I can spark up an interaction with. This along with self amusement does wonders
/r/seduction02/11/15 09:00 AM
1

If you've previously talked to her, and you're into her, why would you not just ask her out...??? Or is that too desperate
/r/seduction28/10/15 04:44 AM
1

Hmm possibly asking her out??? :P
/r/seduction27/10/15 04:16 AM
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Excuse me, is too damn polite and it makes you have a weak frame from get go, thats why people don't like it. Maybe say to her, hey slow up I want to talk to you for a minute :). Then talk to her
/r/seduction26/10/15 04:23 AM
3

Doesn't matter. If you knew what her intentions were would it change your game??? Don't think so. Just escalate and see what happens.
/r/seduction26/10/15 04:21 AM
1

I think I'd agree with your way of doing things :). I enjoy the different dynamic females give me rather than the same old guy stuff.
/r/seduction26/10/15 12:29 AM
1

Reassure her that she can open up to you. Or you could take a hard line approach and say she needs to open up or this isn't going anywhere.
/r/seduction25/10/15 06:28 AM
1

Possibly being more sexual in your pursuit of a girl and make it clear you want to fool around, but not anything long term.
/r/seduction24/10/15 03:40 AM
2

I agree, nothing wrong with it. Just something to get the conversation rolling
/r/seduction10/10/15 08:42 PM
3

I think that, accept it happened and move on, is a better way of thinking about it.
/r/seduction10/10/15 06:30 AM
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Lol
/r/seduction23/09/15 06:13 AM
1

I 100% get that. I met a girl that I really connected to like that a little while ago and I was acting like you are now haha (I'm a youngun as well XD). It's cool to meet someone you really click with, but it's no fun when all you can think about is this girl you don't wanna screw things up with, I know from experience :)
/r/seduction23/09/15 06:06 AM
2

The thing I really don't get about chicks on tinder described in posts like this is them saying they don't you well enough to go out with you. You go out with someone so you CAN get to know them better XD. Anyway, back to OP. You really need to meet up with her if you want to go anywhere. Stop freaking out about this one girl, it's not healthy and chances are there will be other girls like her out there :)
/r/seduction23/09/15 03:59 AM
1

In those two example, they're basically just using you. Also in those two example, the other person is initiating this. I was talking about you initiating helping people because that way you decide if they need your help or not. I get where you are coming from though because it sucks when you try to help someone then they just stab you in the back after you've done it :/. Those sorts of people you're dealing with are leeches. When you were helping those people you were in a way giving value, but…
/r/seduction23/09/15 01:26 AM
2

I'll just look into a coupla things you said. The focusing on other people doesn't return an investment stuff, I think I used to be like that. Why should I help this person, what do I get from it???. Thats actually got nothing to do with helping them though. Thats you not wanting to help them. The only guaranteed return you get for generously giving you help is that YOU feel good for helping this person. You aren't focusing on other people needs, you're doing it because you're a kind generous pe…
/r/seduction23/09/15 12:04 AM
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Bro, that stuff only matters as much as you let it matter. Don't tell white lies, own it and then make that change.
/r/seduction20/09/15 01:12 AM
2

It basically means you're giving them a little piece of yourself. This is special because no one else can give someone can do that. No one else can give other people an insight like you.
/r/seduction19/09/15 07:19 AM
2

Would they still think its creepy and invasive if a hot guy was doing it??? I'm relatively sure one do the top reddit posts says that girls love being approached everywhere. I guess its down to each girl and down to how the guy approaches.
/r/seduction18/09/15 10:39 AM
3

Instead of leaving your friends, why don't you guys just make one big group. Then you and your friends get to know her and her friends. Since you don't know her friends, you need to get to know them a little or at least show them you're a cool guy haha. Her friends 'approval' is good for you. From my perspective, a football game isn't the best hang out spot. Maybe stay there for a bit then isolate her by taking her somewhere else so you can escalate.
/r/seduction18/09/15 03:48 AM
6

"Hey, whatcha listening to"
/r/seduction18/09/15 03:02 AM
1

If you're going for a kiss you should have already been kinoing her, building rapport, etc. Not just talking. If you're asking is it ok to go for a kiss while you're talking to a friend. JUST TALKING. Then no, that doesn't show a lot of social awareness at all. If you've been escalating then sure go right ahead, be bold. This is the escalation ladder by the way... http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/vhie130501/16768511-vindicarloescalationladder
/r/seduction18/09/15 01:40 AM
4

I think he should step back and let her do something now. If she wants to make something happen, she will put in a bit of effort. Doing that also shows that John ain't needy :)
/r/seduction18/09/15 01:30 AM
2

Why don't you talk to those girls that say hi to you around campus then if you're trying to be friendly...???
/r/seduction18/09/15 12:29 AM
0

Friends are good as well haha. If you're a bit shy and nervous you probably need to start off by being friendly, once you've got your confidence back you can start to move into a more seduction focused mindset.
/r/seduction17/09/15 10:04 PM
2

You can clear up misconception by showing intent with a compliment for instance. The confidence is in everything you do, not just saying one thing. You do what you want to do, over time you'll work out your own style :)
/r/seduction17/09/15 08:54 AM
2

It's not bad per se, but asking someone to hang out comes with a lot less pressure. Or saying something like, hey we should have drinks on Friday. Instead of saying, we should go on a date on Friday. Hope you're getting the gist of what I'm saying.
/r/seduction17/09/15 08:25 AM
2

This, this, this. I'm guessing however you're talking about social circle game OP since you know them, but not well. You don't have to phrase it as a "date". Just ask them to hang out, then escalate.
/r/seduction17/09/15 06:56 AM
1

Tauranga
/r/seduction17/09/15 03:58 AM
1

A question, a statement about whats around, anything really. Preferably something relevant to the moment like an observation, but go wild with your openers :P
/r/seduction17/09/15 03:56 AM
1

This. Also don't tell her you like her such as, "I like you". Show it through compliments and your actions.
/r/seduction15/09/15 08:01 AM
6

I think it also comes down to the escalation ladder. If guys are going touching them on their backs very soon after they've met them without touching more innocent places first it would probably creep the woman out a bit. Putting your hand somewhere and leaving it for a bit is a lot different to just touching and retracting.
/r/seduction15/09/15 04:52 AM
1

Wow. This really hit home for me, a bit of a revelation. Thanks heaps for positing it haha :)
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:11 AM
2

Gender difference doesn't mean that men and women have to have different ideals, value systems, etc. There will be a guy with the same core values as you! Who understands your point of view. Maybe trying to change the demographic of people you interact with could bring fruits to your search (If you do want to find a like minded person). For a man, "ugly" is basically the opposite of what it is for a woman if you take a certain perspective. Think of it like this, an "ugly" guy will come off as cr…
/r/seduction13/09/15 10:57 AM
4

Or maybe you're making "guy jokes" with the chicks. If you get what I'm saying. You do have to calibrate to the situation so that could be the thing
/r/seduction13/09/15 02:51 AM
2

You have got to create the sexual tension. If you aren't feeling it, make it happen. There's quite a lot on seddit about that. I reckon check it out.
/r/seduction12/09/15 07:32 AM
1

You literally just move your hand to her arm, touch it, then move it off after a second or two haha :). More than likely it'll be weird at first, but the point is for it to become natural
/r/seduction08/09/15 09:43 AM
1

At highs in the conversation like when you're laughing or having a good time with her, just touch her arm. Thats probably the most basic kino. You might cringe about doing it now, but it should become natural after a bit of putting it into practice. Here's the Di Carlo escalation ladder. I think thats as instructional as its gonna get so I hope it helps haha :) http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/vhie130501/16768511-vindicarloescalationladder
/r/seduction07/09/15 10:28 AM
1

Looks matter more in terms of clothing choice and such rather than genetics. I don't really think its something you "pull off". Talking isn't your only weapon either. Kino is great as well :)
/r/seduction01/09/15 04:16 AM
1

Read the side bar. Forget girls for now and improve your life first. Being good with girls is part of that improvement, but you need to start from the bottom.
/r/seduction31/08/15 07:19 AM
2

Agree with this. Even if you did think she was pretty/beautiful/hot saying it after you've just corrected what she heard to me seems a bit convenient for you to add it in. Save it and give the compliment by itself at a different time :)
/r/seduction25/08/15 06:27 AM
0

"I guess nothing's happening this week/day/whatever then". Something you could use to get her attention, but not in a needy way.
/r/seduction24/08/15 06:43 PM
1

In my opinion, being alpha (As it's used on seddit) is one of those things you can't try to be, you just are or you aren't. It'll come over time as you grow personally and become more sure of yourself. Start with confidence and go from there
/r/seduction24/08/15 06:38 AM
1

To me that line almost sounds like you're seeking her approval (I don't think you actually are though). Why not give her a few days and set up a meet like that instead of asking her if you're gonna see her.
/r/seduction24/08/15 06:31 AM
1

If people think that improving your interactions with women is creepy, then screw them. It isn't creepy to us so who cares what other people think :P
/r/seduction24/08/15 04:44 AM
2

Read the side bar, begin improving your own life, create a positive self image, learn some seduction techniques, ask lots of questions, go out and try shit heaps. Just decide on one thing. Like, I'm shit at approaching, I have AA, I want to get better, and go from there :).
/r/seduction23/08/15 06:52 PM
2

Think social before seduction. Do you have a lot of friends??? Are you a fun guy who can converse well??? To be able to pick up girls, you gotta be good at the base stuff, which is socialising with people.
/r/seduction23/08/15 08:31 AM
2

Yup. Date or not, your game doesn't change
/r/seduction23/08/15 05:49 AM
3

Get some hobbies, play a sport, go to the gym, meditate, yoga, whatever haha. Think of something you'd like to do, then set about doing it during your free time.
/r/seduction23/08/15 12:32 AM
1

Whats always said is make it an exchange rather than one of you giving the other your number. Doesn't matter who gives their number, get the other person to give you a missed call or text.
/r/seduction23/08/15 12:28 AM
2

I'm not sure what your intentions are here... Practising kino??? Hooking up with her??? Making her your girlfriend??? If she's insecure and has to have a boyfriend at all time are you sure you want that kind of girl??? Anyway back to your question. I personally think you can kino anywhere because it is natural to touch people. More intimate kino is different but friendly, light kino is fine I think.
/r/seduction22/08/15 09:02 PM
1

Sounds like she's interested to me. Talk to her again then ask her out for a drink, coffee, etc ASAP is my advice
/r/seduction22/08/15 07:34 PM
2

To me, that sounds great for conversation. Telling people about new experiences is always fun :)
/r/seduction22/08/15 04:56 AM
3

Sounds like you've got the right idea :). You know you're getting better and you're having lots of fun doing it. Well done for doing what you did bro. Even an RSD guy, Todd thinks his game sucks, I don't think I'm hot shit either. But I know I wanna keep getting better :)
/r/seduction22/08/15 04:55 AM
1

Yep, stuff like lord of the legos said. There's not a lot more to it than that :)
/r/seduction21/08/15 06:26 AM
1

Talk about something you want to talk about, or just mess around and have some fun talking to her. Honestly, you can have a lot of fun from a completely super random question.
/r/seduction19/08/15 09:41 AM
1

She clearly wants to see you again, so I'd just go with it and you can figure out what you want to do with the situation further down the line. If you're into her show your intent and go from there.
/r/seduction19/08/15 06:06 AM
2

Show your intent, but also show her you have other options. Show her you've got things to do outside of talking to her. To me, it's all about the vibe you give off when you're talking to the girl. A needy guy and a non needy guy can say the same thing, yet one will seem needy because of the intent behind it. I think in the end it comes down to an abundance mentality.
/r/seduction18/08/15 09:42 AM
1

Meet up with her instead of messaging her. Stop worrying about her replies and the time between them. Messages are nothing compared to a real life interaction with someone, so meet her and then talk, kino show intent, whatever.
/r/seduction18/08/15 09:40 AM
3

Julien's an RSD guy :)
/r/seduction16/08/15 07:30 AM
2

Think about what makes her an interesting girl, then ask her questions about the things that make her interesting to you. Don't make conversation for the sake of it. You don't have to be constantly flirting, just learning more about someone is good as well.
/r/seduction16/08/15 12:41 AM
4

Being prepared =/= pedestal
/r/seduction12/08/15 08:17 AM
1

How to never get shot down: Never try to get a girl :P
/r/seduction10/08/15 08:08 AM
1

Yep, nothing compares to real life interactions. They're way more fun as well!!! Maybe you could ask her to hang out, but I'm not sure if that time has passed now.
/r/seduction10/08/15 08:07 AM
1

A lot of it is simply self improvement rather than creating attraction. Women would probably still benefit from reading, just less so than men. I don't know of any version for women though.
/r/seduction10/08/15 08:01 AM
1

Any particular reason why you only kiss only at the end of the date??? Kiss her because you want to, not because you think you need to :). If you're having trouble escalating check out this little gem: http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/vhie130501/16768511-vindicarloescalationladder Escalation is basically just slowly building up. I think that the easiest way to initiate a kiss is either using the wait method, or strong eye contact.
/r/seduction10/08/15 07:53 AM
1

I just think of my life, values, personality, moral code. Stuff like that. If I ever forget what an awesome person I am, I go back to thinking about that stuff :). For me it was easy to become confident in myself, I don't know why
/r/seduction02/08/15 07:55 AM
2

It means nothing until you've done something. You can make it mean something :P. Flick her a message, just cause she's got a guy already doesn't mean you cant talk to her haha
/r/seduction26/07/15 06:09 AM
1

If your mentality is shit, your results are gonna be shit. There will be a point in time that no matter how good you are at seduction, you won't have a girl, or maybe only a small amount (E.g. You're going through a dry spell). Thats when the abundance mentality kicks in.
/r/seduction25/07/15 07:52 PM
1

Generally a bit more specific I think. It's really about showing the girl how you feel. E.g. You are attracted to her.
/r/seduction24/07/15 08:23 AM
5

Uh, why... If you want to be exclusive, let her know. If she just wants a fun fling then you sort shit out. I think the longer you wait, the worse especially if you don't know you're on the same page as her.
/r/seduction24/07/15 08:17 AM
2

I think the best thing to do for now is just wait. She might be amazing, but will double texting her help your situation in any way??? It seems unusual she would just cut you off like that after a couple of days unless she was already not liking it. In the scheme of things, 5hours is not much :)
/r/seduction22/07/15 09:40 AM
1

I was in your situation, meeting up with a girl, no fucking clue how to kino cause it seems weird. Check out this article though, it's pretty interesting http://www.quora.com/How-can-I-accelerate-my-personal-growth. If you want to get better, just try shit. She's your friend so it shouldn't be too bad if you messed up a little with the kino. Kino is supposed to be natural so just do what comes naturally. I watched a video and a concept that really helped me was you let the feelings for this girl…
/r/seduction22/07/15 09:34 AM
1

When you say she ignored it and, just stopped replying, how long has it been since her last message??? Maybe she's just busy at the moment and so can't reply as quick.
/r/seduction22/07/15 09:23 AM
3

Seems a bit 0 to 100 if he's having trouble making the date sexual then goes in for a kiss...
/r/seduction13/07/15 09:40 PM
3

Nah friendzone is before rejection. Basically you don't make a move, so you get friendzoned, not rejected.
/r/seduction08/07/15 09:14 AM
2

From my limited knowledge, talking about something thats important to you/something you're passionate about/something a bit sensitive are ways to build emotional attachments. The way I think of it is you're literally sharing your emotions with someone, then they reciprocate and you're getting an attachment.
/r/seduction07/07/15 09:20 AM
2

Haha the thing with the interactions is if you don't know what you are doing its much harder than having some helpful knowledge, which I guess you could say is "game". It's generally not manipulative (Some things you can do are questionable), you cant force someone to be attracted you :P
/r/seduction06/07/15 11:16 AM
3

You can't treat people like objects because they realise they're being treated badly so nothing will happen. What makes you think this sub reddit encourages people to treat women as objects??? :P
/r/seduction06/07/15 11:09 AM
7

To add to that, it depends on the mood. You don't want to necessarily be held back and reserved at a party, whereas for a date/day game it could be more appropriate and help. I've heard Max from RSD talk about being passionate with what your talking about because something I cant remember :P. The point is I think you can be talking fast/enthusiastically etc and do just fine :)
/r/seduction06/07/15 11:06 AM
2

Seduction is mainly about improving yourself and then letting your qualities shine through I think. There are some psychological aspects though, like qualifying for example.
/r/seduction06/07/15 10:41 AM
1

I don't think you have to do that. OP, if you're already hanging out with her, then just sprinkle in some compliments, touching, etc to show your interest. I think chilliehead's response is good :)
/r/seduction05/07/15 08:09 PM
1

Haha wow!!! I need to see that happen for myself... :P
/r/seduction05/07/15 06:02 AM
2

The setting might have something to do with that. In somewhere like a bar the unattractive guys might touch you once, see you don't like it then stop. The attractive guys might treat it as a shit test and keep going, or they could just touch you more to try to build rapport, or they might just be a touchy person :). Though if you tell them you aren't touchy then they keep doing, I don't know what to say... :P
/r/seduction04/07/15 11:42 PM
1

Wow thats awesome bro :). I woulda thought parents would just pull her away and walk off??? :P. Did you just treat them as though they were the girls friends??? Introduce yourself then focus on girl???
/r/seduction04/07/15 09:26 PM
3

Haha yeah I've been on seddit and such for a little while now learning :P, but "Models" sounds damn good. Parents currently got no clue I want to learn about attracting girls and I haven't been with any girls really, thats the only reason why I think they'd think its weird. I already tried to get a free ecopy :P, but I prefer a real book, so I guess I'll just talk to them about it :)
/r/seduction04/07/15 09:21 PM
1

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by taking the lead in a conversation. Do you mean like, let's talk about what I want to talk about??? Often it's easy to do that by posing a question. "Have you heard of xxxx???", "What do you think of xxxx???". Or inquiring into things the other person says. This is basically conversation threading. For example, yesterday I got a ride back from my football game with someone who lives near me, but I did not know them one bit. He didn't play in the game, so my f…
/r/seduction04/07/15 09:13 PM
3

I'm 17 and have heard about "Models" but I think my parents would think it's weird me ordering this type of book :P. How'd you manage to get a copy???
/r/seduction04/07/15 08:51 PM
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The more you approach the more natural it'll become. I'm 17, haven't really started approaching because where I live I actually cant without driving for 20-25min :P, but that being said I've practiced my social skills and especially kino-ing and now it feels natural for me to touch people on the arm, shoulder, whatever during conversations :)
/r/seduction04/07/15 08:49 PM
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LOL stop overthinking it OP :). If you're having fun with her and you like her, keep doing it :P
/r/seduction04/07/15 08:14 AM
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I meant self improvement like being in good shape, being a good person, etc that aren't seduction techniques. I do realise that it's always making yourself better and that it translates into all other areas of your life because I feel the change in my life already.
/r/seduction04/07/15 08:06 AM
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I'm 17 as well. Just get your confidence up, get a good vibe going, be super social. A lot of the stuff on seddit has been good for me to either tuck away for later, or help me build my persona. For example, body language, eye contact, flirting, kino. A lot of people have said that it's more about self improvement for us younguns :P
/r/seduction04/07/15 07:44 AM
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I reckon a bit of cocky but in a teasing funny way can help. I think it kind of helps with the flow of the interaction. So you can be yourself and deal with rejection better.
/r/seduction02/07/15 06:45 PM
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I'm currently realising that one of my best friends is just being an absolute cunt to me all the time now and what I'm doing is just talk to him less. If he says something stupid or derogatory, I ignore it because he's not worth my time. The way I'm doing it is just talking to him less and not really treating him the same way I did before. I think as you progress you'll naturally outgrow your friends if they aren't trying to improve themselves.
/r/seduction02/07/15 06:39 PM
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For me the alpha concept was self worth, self respect and confidence. Basically, I am a good/interesting/funny/etc person and I'm not going to let someone else cut me down. That doesn't mean to say I'm perfect and not going to keep improving. I think that the commanding attention is a good thing in some ways because it not, LISTEN TO ME!!!, commanding, it's offering value to others around you in a confident way. I like to think of it as more passive commanding than actively commanding people if …
/r/seduction02/07/15 06:32 PM
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I don't think you should limit yourself like that. Why not try for a really beautiful girl if you like her???
/r/seduction24/06/15 04:50 AM
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If you're talking to them why not isolate them and take them away from all the loud noise. Just dance otherwise.
/r/seduction23/06/15 01:37 AM
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It only works if you say it right. I can't really explain that part, but just throwing everything out there is a bit weird. This helps to polarise a girl so that you can figure out if she likes you or not. I think it does work, but don't go overboard with it.
/r/seduction22/06/15 10:43 PM
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Just ask casually, don't be quick fire. People will generally answer your questions if you seem interested in the answer
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:52 PM
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Ahhh, you picture it. Have you actually tried it yet??? So many things on seddit seems crazy to think about, like touching girls. It just seems so weird to touch them heaps and in this place etc!!! Until you start doing it. Just try it out :) The point is just to lead the conversation into learning more about her
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:48 PM
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It's teasing her, also making her qualify herself to you. If you act confident like you're worth it and say it playfully, I don't think there's any reason why it would go down bad. Also you gotta realise not every girl that you like will like you, so polarising her can be good.
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:46 PM
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For a relationship, its good to weed them out so you get what you want. If you're just looking to hook up or something then sure maybe it's ok.
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:44 PM
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Well there are lairs listed in the sidebar. If you aren't near any of them just post your approx location and I think people could be willing to meet up with you to help.
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:41 PM
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You're talking about removing his filter??? Because that will help polarise the girls into whether they like you or not. If they don't, then move on. Another thing, are you kino-ing a lot/right??? Because kino is very helpful. Getting friend zoned as opposed to rejected is basically that your intentions weren't clear enough. If you want to be her friend, great, but if you wanted a relationship be willing to walk away with nothing :)
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:39 PM
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16 year olds don't know shit. They might not be weird or awkward, but they just don't know stuff about everything whether its girls, life, etc. I'm 17 and just starting to get confident and love myself and I don't know a lot about the life ahead of me. I browse seddit, but as HeIsMyPossum said, a lot of it is for adults and can't really help us teens. I think whats best at our age is just being super social, super confident, grounded and don't think like, "Damn I need to get a girl". Build your …
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:35 PM
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All of those bloody ladies... And to think that some guys will actually follow this because they don't know any better makes me a bit sad :(
/r/seduction22/06/15 08:53 PM
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If you're comfortable, she will be comfortable, assuming she likes you. If she doesn't she's not worth your time anyway. You are attracted to her physical features though, you know nothing else about her. You go and talk to her because you wanna see what her personality is like, etc. Or to hook up, whatever you motive is. But you can't deny the physical attraction.
/r/seduction22/06/15 08:45 PM
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It seems a bit "nice guy" if you know what I mean... It could be a sticking point in the future if it is too much Mr. Nice, but if its working then keep doing it I guess :)
/r/seduction22/06/15 07:17 AM
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In my opinion, a really good way to kino is to move the girl around. By this I mean both change the location and physically move the girl, not necessarily at the same time :P. When you move to a different location you can easily slip your arm around her waist, on her lower back, around shoulder, etc depending on your current level of kino. Moving her is easy enough, just find an excuse then pick her up. It's normally lots of fun for both of you :)
/r/seduction22/06/15 01:39 AM
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I saw a great post about getting numbers the other day. It was something along the lines of, set up a date then get the number as the way to exchange info about the date. By test I guess you mean shit test from the girl. Check out the sidebar, it has very good info on that. I don't really get what you mean by an orbiter. Yeah thats the right kind of attitude, but don't think of it like being an asshole. Thats being your own person :)
/r/seduction22/06/15 01:35 AM
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First of all, stop thinking about it as becoming more of an asshole!!! Because you aren't!!! Being more assertive is easy, make statements rather than posing questions. "Do you want to hang out this weekend?" "Let's hang out this weekend" Very simple example of being more assertive. You're still suggesting an idea, but your being more assertive about it. What you say still means the same thing, but you want to present yourself in a more more powerful way. The difference between being a dick, and…
/r/seduction22/06/15 12:03 AM
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Haha HB means hot babe. It's just used to describe how hot the girls in field reports or advice posts are. The scale is from 1-10. It's only used so that we can get an idea of what sort of chick they are talking about.
/r/seduction21/06/15 11:55 PM
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You don't reframe day by day. You reframe once, and keep your frame. Then after time you become that frame you made and it's no longer a frame, it's you. The imagining is good, it gets you pumped up to go out and have fun. But I don't think that creates a good self image, because it's all imagined. You need the real practical experience of, yes I can do this, rather than just imagining it. Another thing is that things aren't going to happen exactly as you intend. Thats the fun of the interaction…
/r/seduction21/06/15 11:08 PM
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I think iikes12 means the 0.5 bit. The HB thing is slang, you don't really need to be exact down to the 0.5 with it :P.
/r/seduction21/06/15 10:58 PM
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Everybody is going to be a bit like that at some point, no matter how good their inner game is. Building up some social momentum/extra self esteem is always good no matter how good your inner game is anyways :).
/r/seduction20/06/15 09:28 PM
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It's not mandatory, but in my opinion it's easier to keep your frame/mindset if you have mutliple options.
/r/seduction20/06/15 09:16 PM
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I'd say if you guys regularly made each other food, then what you did would be a dick move. But from what you are saying you kind of did a lot for them, so I think you did a good thing there :). You stopped being their bitch. That doesn't mean you don't have to stop being kind, generous, etc. In my mind it means you decide to do something because you want to. If you don't think your friends deserve you to make them food, don't do it. To me it feels really good to take control of myself 100% like…
/r/seduction19/06/15 06:31 PM
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What he is talking about is an abundance mentality. If you're stuck on one girl then you won't be able to get her because you are TOO focused on her. You put her on a pedestal and it hurts you. You might start worrying about if she'll stay with you, or like the OP start changing your schedule to fit hers. By having mental abundance, you don't worry about girls because you KNOW you can get other girls and this one is a big deal. To be successful with a girl you don't necessarily need physical abu…
/r/seduction19/06/15 10:19 AM
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For the conversations going dry part, thats about being aware of the conversation you're having. E.g Where it's going, things you've only touched on and can go deeper with, etc. You can also use your surroundings to provide some topics. Now be careful about putting this girl on a pedestal, cause it sounds like you're doing that a little bit. You shouldn't try to be more playful and fun just around her, do it around everyone!!! :). This will help you with her, other girls to come and making frien…
/r/seduction19/06/15 10:11 AM
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Just wow. This is a really interesting post :). I like what you said about lowering the amount of talking you do, and the anti kino makes a lot of sense. So you think the 'friendzone' is just to do with social status? If you're too low they won't think of you as more than a friend. But if you're too high they won't bother with you because you're out of reach?
/r/seduction12/06/15 07:02 AM
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Just talk? About anything. If you're in the same classes, start the conversation using something topical both of you will know about. You can progress the conversation into more about her after you've been talking for a bit.
/r/seduction10/06/15 04:24 AM
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From what I understand of alpha behaviour it doesn't dimish women, it just shows the man is 100% in control of themselves. It doesn't mean, girl gets zero choice she's doing what I want. If the guys are trying to impress you they are not really displaying alpha qualities and probably have weak 'inner game'. Again, introducing themselves like a 'resume' of sorts doesn't show very alpha qualities because they're a bit needy for qualification (At least this is what I'm getting from it). I can under…
/r/seduction07/06/15 05:34 AM
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