This is a FR for newer guys like me, I think it really shows how the simple stuff helps enormously. I realise it isn't a generic FR and is a situation that Seddit teaches us to try not to get into, but the seduction principles are sound. FYI I'm 17 and minimal experience with girls.

Very shy quiet girl who has next to no experience with guys. Met her at the start of this year. I was into her from the get go, but hadn't found seduction yet so was a pussy and did shit all until months later, which was met with a bit of resistance even though she was into me cause overthinking. So this was a real breakthrough for me.

Onto the FR!

Quick background: I had decided to not contact this girl because she couldn't make up her mind and it was pissing me off. I was escalating only for her to not give me any sort of signal in return, even though she liked me escalating. Her dilemma was she just wanted to be friends because we're both going to uni a little while and she didn't want to get into anything.

Fast forwards a few weeks after. I cut myself off from her and I'm at one of my friends 18th, when another friend there though it would be a good idea to invite this girl over cause me and her had a thing and she lives close by. She dated the guys who's birthday it is a few years ago and they're friends now so he said she could come.

She turns up and I really don't want to talk to her cause I was sick of her indecisive shit, so I go about my own thing. But everyone is bugging me to go up to her and talk, trying to tell me to, "just do it", which was annoying (Confidence is a non issue for me, but I just actually didn't want to talk to her).

At some point in the night I just thought, fuck it I can't keep ignoring her cause otherwise people will make a big deal out of it. She was sitting down, I went over to her and sat on her lap :P.


Reasoning: I thought it would be funny haha, self amusement. It's bold, I decided if I was gonna do this. I wasn't gonna half ass it.

Result: She says she has to go to the toilet basically immediately after I sit down hahaha (She told me after it wasn't an excuse and she really did, but it did feel a bit stink).


From then on, other people at the party tried to push us together, like everybody leaving but them, never have I ever's directed at us. Through all this, I was starting to catch feelings for this girl again. After all our partying just before we were going to bed at 4 in the morning, I said to her, "I want to talk to you. Tonight, or tomorrow morning before you leave?" She said tomorrow, but knowing her she would try to wriggle out of it.

I wanted to talk to her about not seeing her at all anymore if she just wants to be friends because I couldn't just be her friend when I was still attracted to her. I had to set these boundaries for my own sanity because I was sick of letting her sit on the fence. I previously thought this was going too far, but now I see that I really didn't need that in my life. I was more than happy to live without her I my life if she didn't want to fool around.

Tomorrow rolls around and I try to isolate her early but she has the excuse of she's too tired. I tell her, come on, let's go talk now a little later. She replies with, I don't even know what you want to talk about (A lie, she told me after that she had an idea, which was spot on what I did want to talk about haha)

I only got to talk to her literally as she was leaving and only because I went up to her car, opened her door and said, "It's important to me that I talk to you". I talked to her about her unresponsiveness later, she said that's what she does haha. Run away from things :P. But if I hadn't gone up to her as she was leaving and said that, she would have left, I would have still not set out my boundaries and none of the fun that we both had would have ever happened. Take chances guys. Have the balls to do the things you want to.


I have to say, it was fucking hard to tell her I didn't want to see her again, (We have great chemistry and get a long really well) but it was good. I was proud to set that boundary and express myself. I guess that vulnerability for ya, it's tough but pays dividends.


And oh boy did it pay off in this case. After I said that we started talking more. I told her about how I couldn't deal with being attracted to her and ignore that, basically just being telling her exactly what I was thinking. I wanted to talk to her more since this would be the last time talking to her and I wanted to find out some things for myself so I can further improve, so I said for her to come out to my house and we can talk some more.

She came after lunch to my house, I had the intention of just talking to her only, but I was still attracted to her. I kept playing with her hands and ears, touching her arm. Honestly, I never thought about it I just did it. I got to the point of asking her one more time if she wanted to be just friends, and so we wouldn't see each other. I think I leaned in towards her over her shoulder just after I asked because I remembers her saying, "You always make it complicated", meaning that I escalate haha. I found that amusing :P.

From there it was easy. I framed it as, did she want to have some fun with me, or did she want to just be friends. While she was making her mind up, I asked her if she wanted to end the year with a bang ;), which was a completely unintentional pun XD. I got her lying back into me with her head on my chest, and I kind of ran my hands down her lightly, brushing her boobs. I think I went back up to grab them after that :P. It was surprising to me how relaxed she was about letting me play with her tits. So I think the lesson here is, play to win, take risks and reap the rewards.

After satisfying my child like need to squeeze and play with her boobs, I felt like she had finally opened up to me almost fully. When I got her to stand up I grabbed her ass and she made a joke about her Latino er, 'features' ;) (A running joke between us). I kissed her all over her neck and face, traced lines on her back, played with her hair. I used to think that making out was the only thing I could do, I was so narrow minded. That day I learnt that I can do what I want. I shouldn't be restricted by my own narrow minded ness.

This sort of stuff happened for the next few hours, at one point moving to her car where I learnt that boobs make a real nice pillow :P. For the first time this girl had actually showed affection towards me, all the other times she had really been on the fence. But now I had a genuine connection with her that we could share. For all you guys on the sub, that's what I hope you find. A great connection with someone you really enjoy time with, hot girls are great, but I think this sort of feeling is unique.

This post really dragged on more than I thought it would. I guess the TL:DR; would be: take action, set firm boundaries, play to win and enjoy your interactions.

In January I was a nervous kid who knew nothing about girls. I'm proud to have come this far and I want to keep pushing forwards and I wish all of my bros on this sub the best of luck with their own endeavours in seduction :)