Best way to do this? I have usually never had trouble with this but the last girl I dated on dates 3 and 4 we made out pretty heavily with some hand action on each side. I never could close the deal however and then got friendzoned a week or two later I did really like this girl so kind of a drag. I'm making sure I don't fall back into oneitis though and have 2 dates lined up for next week

We had been just using our hands for only 15-20 minutes and I said "You wanna go back to my room?"....I probably just went for it too soon? Probably would of made more sense to get her off on the couch and make her wanting even more huh? Probably should of just said "Lets go back to my room." and assume the sale so to speak as well. Any other tips?