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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I disagree. Porn satisfies my physical needs but it doesn't satisfy my emotional wants and needs. I've only ever had FWB relationships and the reason I started game was to seduce women I could be in a relationship with so I could get that emotional connection, the sex has always been a fun thing I can do with a woman.
[–]HowGreatIAm 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I understand your point. To clarify, I never meant that porn can adequately replace girls in your life. If it could, then not so many people would be concerned with getting laid or getting a girlfriend.
The problem is that, chemically, porn/masturbation releases as much dopamine as sex. In other words, your subconscious(?) brain can't tell the difference between porn and real sex, chemically. As you get used to higher and higher levels of dopamine due to the ease of acess of a whole variety of porn, social interactions with girls don't seem as exciting or attractive anymore. You've already "gotten your fix."
Sure, on a conscious level, you still want to go after girls, whether it be for sex or a relationship, but your motivation and confidence will be hindered. Sometimes, it's hard to notice until it becomes a serious problem.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand YOUR point, but I again disagree :P
Maybe it's just me, but sex with a girl is far more dopamine inducing than porn. I'm weird, I love fingering girls, eating them out and getting them wet in general to the point they sit up mid orgasm and say in the most demonic tone "I want you to put your dick inside me and fuck me until I can't walk". That is something porn can NEVER give me. Sure, it can give me a release, but it never makes me go "You know what? Screw approaching girls, I'm good for now"
I get where you're coming from and I've done the whole nofap thing, but I found when I wasn't masturbating I was more self-conscious about my game because I wasn't getting a release at all so all the pressure was about making my game flawless so I'd get my dopamine fix.
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[–]HowGreatIAm 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I started nofap a week ago, and haven't watched porn or masturbated since. Previously, however, I had been watching porn/masturbating regularly for 8 years.
Your Brain on Porn lists the several negative effects that porn addiction can cause. Again, it's up to you to decide whether you are "addicted" or not. In my opinion, however, if you're asking this question--subconsciously, you already know that something isn't right.
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[–]HowGreatIAm 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A lot of people on /r/nofap are only there because they already have porn/masturbation induced ED. So yeah, I would say that it can be hard for "normal" people to relate to them. You can see why they need to quit the habit/addiction though.
On the other hand, why I joined /r/nofap is two-fold. First of all, masturbation is an addiction for me. I don't think I "overdo it," but at the same time, I've always had trouble not masturbating at least once every two days. That's not acceptable anymore for me. I should be able to control my desires. Secondly, while my sex drive certainly doesn't evaporate due to porn/masturbation, I think my overall sociability and confidence does.
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA -1 points0 points1 point 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Abstinence is the ultimate addiction." --Larry Flynt
You have substituted one addiction for another. Don't even pretend you have some superior way of living.
[–]d41d8cd 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everything is good in moderation, nofaping is an extreme solution IMO.
Also it won't make you want women less if that's what you're implying.
[–]WhatsFairIsFair 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with this.
Think about it. If I don't watch porn for a while the desire increases substantially and makes me really want to masturbate. However, maybe I can turn all of that desire and energy into amping up my game instead of into a balled up tissue in the trash can. I used to masturbate every day and approaching women wouldn't matter because I would look at someone and go "oh man, she's so hot" "I'm going to go masturbate to something like that when I get home." It negates the motivation for picking up women. Not all of it, but a small amount of it.
I even go as far as to watch porn but to not masturbate like an hour before a date or something. Gets me in the mood with the right mindset. It doesn't mean I'm looking to fuck, it just reminds me to put sexual tension in the date.
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA[M] -1 points0 points1 point 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have had it with you nofaps. Go take your orgasm denial fetish back to your own subreddit. If you eunuchs don't stop promoting your subreddit so aggressively in seddit, I'm going to take aggressive action to prevent it.
[–]gmansims7 points 14 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I actually started nofap about 6 weeks ago and I can say there are positives and negatives.
I don't consider myself really "addicted" to porn (no porn ED or anything, just something I was spending too much unproductive time doing).
The first few weeks were great, I went to a bunch of social events, going out more etc. But after that, I started spending more time playing video games, surfing the web, looking at soft core images, edging, etc. I didn't feel any better and felt like I was wasting time again.
At this point in my experiment, I've tried to cut down on my unproductive web-surfing and gaming and increase "real-world" skills like playing guitar and spending as much time with other people as possible.
I would never try to convince anyone else that fapping is bad or hinders game, but I've found that trying to cut down on unproductive uses of my time (much of which was porn related) helped me in a lot of small and unrelated ways. Hope this helps - best of luck.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
not me. But I'm quite aware of the differences between porn and real sex. I think that helps. Plus, masturbation calms me down, so I think more clearly
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I just don't see it as an issue. It's a thing that I do, just like playing guitar or Starcraft 2 or working. It's just a thing in my life. It's not a big deal
[–]makinplays 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It decreased my confidence, libido, and motivation to approach girls.
It may do different things for different people, but for me personally I have been told by no less than 5 people out of the blue that I'm like a different person lately and seem a lot happier. I only started /r/Nofap at the start of the month. I won't be stopping!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To each their own brother. What works for us, works for us :)
[–]makinplays 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha oops, meant to just reply to the thread! Very true though, everyone's different.
[–]KickinRockss 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You may be right my man but I'm more inclined to think that was all placebo. I'd even go on to say that new guy you are now is simply you deciding to be AWESOME.. Although I guess maybe some people just get happier once they stop touching their weenies... but for me I'd just get sadder =-P
[–]MrAlterior 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course we all know the differences
I can confirm that this is not true.
I don't pursue girls or sex eagerly enough or something. I just don't know what it's like.
No. Why would it? The only people who really get fucked by masturbation (besides anyone with hands) are people who are straight up addicted to it.
[–]Gfresh404 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not so much my game as it does my overall drive to approach girls - so ya I guess it does
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it does. Watching porn is also a waste of time.
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