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[–]Big_D_yup 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just read what you wrote.
[–]SaintTriangleFace 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's fucking with you. IMO, the negatives here far outweigh the positives and she sounds like a pain to be around. Drop her and move on, she's clearly only causing you frustration.
[–]samonesto 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
She really misses her ex when she is drunk, and you are there soo
Sorry but she doesn't like you, find another girl.
[–]helpfuldoorstop 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems like samonesto is right on. My suggestion, own the freindzone.
Accept that she doesn’t like you, move on, but don’t shut her out of your life. Be one step ahead of her, she might be trying to put you in the freindzone so she has someone to confide with since she still thinks about her ex. So do that (without explicitly telling her) and keep improving yourself. Since she’s using you for emotional support use her for practice with flirting and getting comfortable around hot girls.
Some people might say “you should never use someone” but she’s using you for emotional support. Tit for tat. Having this mindset also gets you away from making her that one girl you’re trying to get with because you think she’s the greatest thing in the world, and the only hot girl who will ever like you. Trust me man it’s an easy hole to slowly fall into and you won’t realize what you’re doing until you’ve dug one deep hole that’ll take you awhile to get out of. The way I’ve always seen this problem is like trying to get across the world, digging a hole straight through the earth to get to your destination across the world. In which you have to deal with loneliness, lots of effort, and the fact that trying to dig through the earth is almost impossible or you could drive, fly, walk, swim across the world. You would meet tons of cool people, have cool experiences, see amazing sites, enjoy your trip and learn who you truly are and end of at the same destination. Now picture that destination being having a relationship with a girl. Which way would you choose, oneitis(digging through the earth) or abundance mentality (travel across the earth)
Now with this in mind, try out different flirting techniques with her, most of them won’t work since she doesn’t like you but if the way you flirted was really good she will react since girls are extremely emotional people. If she reacts then you know you did well since she doesn’t like you. Try and dress differently, ask her for advice on how it looks, exercise, read, become interested in at least one thing, research how to build up your self esteem and push yourself to do it. If you have no self esteem and you don’t think you dress well enough or if you become too cocky, girls will be able to tell and they will think you’re “weird” or “creepy” or “I get a weird feeling when I’m around him” or “he makes me feel uncomfortable”. Work hard and push yourself don’t think of an end goal, just focus on and ENJOY the process, if you don’t every word I just said won’t count worth crap. If you do all this you can turn from a confirmed 4/10 to at least a 7/10 possibly 9/10 if you work hard enough.
And who knows when you become that 9/10 you may stop to talk and with this “hot girl” you’re hooked onto and she may have a hot friend with her, and your confidence and self esteem and hygiene and the feeling you give off may make her friend give you that long stare, and after the conversation she may ask your friend “who’s that, he’s cute” and ask her for your number.
Don’t worry about this girl, make her part of your journey in life to become the best self you can be!
Tl;dr : practice with “hot girl”, get over oneitis mentality, improve yourself, enjoy journey, reap the rewards
[–]OVOTiti 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Forget her. Get her out of your head ASAP.
[–]kylerosa21 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you establish a mindset of abundance and value yourself enough to the point where you know you can get other women, you won’t feel so reliant on female attention coming from one specific girl.
From the looks of it, rating yourself a 4/10 doesn’t seem confident enough. Who cares if her ex is a 9/10? You need to always see yourself as better than any other guy and act in such a way. You can never let another guy undermine you, rather, you need to undermine him. If she likes him over you, you have to see it as her loss and your gain.
That said, forget about the girl and make her see what she missed out on by her acts.
[–]bottlecappedreal 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to be like you, starving for attention from woman but you really just have to let it go. She's not interested and she just keeps you around as a friend or because she has to. When you guys go out just try to get with a 2 or a 3 and get some confidence out of that. Do things that get you confident like working out r/fitness and improving your looks. She doesn't like you
[–]TheyCallMeXerok 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is very, very sad.
[–]aznology 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
shes bread crumbing you bro. 2 plays you can make. Lets be honest there just there to fuck her. Play 1: Man the fuck up and fuck her Play 2: Freeze her out, no contact her show her, you got other shit going on then this fishy hoe. Play 3: Man the fuck up and say I ain't your ex I'm "Your name"
[–]allAboutMentality 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ignore her. If she wants you, she’ll make the effort to try to keep in contact with you which is a win. If not, then you can slowly forget about her. Win-win.
[–]Love_Summer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She likes the attention and she likes to feel like the "popular girl" who can dominate the unpopular people (like in high-school) and also, when they're very drunk, people will flirt with a cactus, so you should just ignore what happens when she's drunk. Do not grab her wrist and whatnot, like I've seen suggested in another comment, just stay away from her, she sounds like a horrible person, by the way she's treating you and probably many other people. It's OK to not like someone, it's not OK to treat them like garbage. I'd say not to try to engage in any social activity with her, just say 'hi' and 'bye' and 'excuse me', if she's asking you something answer only the necessary and don't go any further, use a serious tone of voice, don't respond to her jokes, don't laugh to please her, don't smile when she's being rude. I know this is a 'seduction" subreddit, but she obviously doesn't respect you as a person (I don't think it's you, she's probably not very nice to begin with) so I think you should put on some walls. I'd say to confront her when she;s being rude, but I'm anxious and shy and it would probably be very difficult for me and I kind of think it would be for you too, but if you could do it, without sounding like a cry-baby, that would be great. Nothing too fancy or heroic or "alpha", just maybe roll your eyes and asked in a bored look, like you would a child who throws tantrums all the times "oh, come on, what are you, five?" (like that thing she does with shush-ing you when you say something funny is very immature).
Maybe once you establish some social boundaries with her she'll be able to see you from a romantic perspective also, even though I doubt it and I very much think you're not losing anything.
As a side note: I and my women friends have many times been attracted by men in our social circle who were not tall or fit or had great hair or handsome faces, but they were funny or witty or really smart (not /iamverysmart kind of smart) or nice (nor /niceguy kind of nice) or confident or you know, things that make you look positive... If you're not good looking, you would not be observed in a club, on the street, etc, but you have chances to pop out (I hope that's the term) in a social circle (at work, for example). Just do not try to gain the attention of hot bullies, that makes you look very needy and unattractive :( Also, I guess you're pretty young? Invest in yourself, clothes, haircuts, hygiene, culture, most probably a therapist... (like, motivational books and alone are great, but feeding "alpha male" info into somebody that is very scared and angry might turn you away from women, not close.
Maybe you're gonna be unsuccessful and alone for a while (some years?) and it's gonna sucks, but it does get better if you get better. The time passes anyway, the years pass anyway :)
[–]Lambdal7 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Next time she does something sexual, be really alpha with her, say shut the fuck up (in a joking way), grab her waist and let go again.
This will make her feel very startled since she didnt expect it from you to be so manly. Tease her hard, but the stop and be nice again. Give her a little kiss. She needs this push and pull.
But don't get hopes up too much, it probably won't work out, maybe, but you can learn a lot from interacting with her.
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