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What Inner Game Really Is...

TokyoPickup

March 21, 2012

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Title	What Inner Game Really Is...
Author	TokyoPickup
Upvotes	2
Comments	10
Date	March 21, 2012 1:09 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/r6og3/what_inner_game_really_is/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/what-inner-game-really-is.1330249 https://theredarchive.com/post/1330249

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[–]DesignMyself 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]Marsupian 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Marsupian 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Being congruent is indeed more of a result of inner game instead of part of it.

My only criticism was that you put a LOT of emphasis on the fitness part which implies it's what "inner game really is" as that is your title. I think a very large part of inner game is taking control of your mind and being able to impose confidence and "state" onto yourself out of the blue regardless of how you are feeling. Basically cheating your mind to feel good and have positive thoughts. I think that is as much a part of inner game as taking care of yourself.

I do think being healthy is important and makes you feel better but being aware of your thoughts and feelings and directly influencing them just by using your mind is just as important imo. Now you did mention that part as well briefly and the reason you talked so long about fitness might just be because it's something you are really into but it just gives off this vibe that you are trying to say that "inner game"= fitness+diet.

And on a side note maybe you derive most of your inner game from being healthy but the next guy might be more dependent on being dressed really well, you could say being dressed really well is part of his inner game the same way being healthy is too you. Now I know being dressed well doesn't directly influence your hormone balance or energy level but don't think he doesn't feel like the most awesome bad ass in the world after having looked in the mirror before going out.

btw. I also kind of disliked how you seemed to imply you should work out every day or the majority of the days in the week. It largely depends on what you want to accomplish in the gym and taking into account that your body needs about 7 days of rest (give or take) to fully recover from a workout that pushed your body to the max limit you can make a strong case for only working out once a week for 15-30 mins (if you are purely trying to build strength). If some guy completely hammers his body day in and day out in the gym he is only beating down an already dead horse and would get much better results if he gave his body a few days rest to actually recover and build the extra muscle needed to survive the next workout.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the reply.

I understand where you're coming from, and have a few points I'd like to hit here.

The reason I placed so much emphasis on diet and exercise is because a lot of pickup seems to disregard the effectiveness of it. There is a lot of talk about "fooling yourself into state" but that's not a healthy way to achieve good emotional balance imo, and it isn't a long term solution.
I mentioned running 6 days a week, three miles a day, because it's the easiest way to get the kind of physical balance I was talking about from exercise. For a newcomer it's a good start, which is what I said in the article I think.
Yes I realize there are other methods of exercise, and I know a lot of people who are heavy into weight lifting hate cardio, but in my experience, good cardio is much better for balancing your state than good weight lifting, if I had to choose one over the other I would choose cardio. Fortunately I don't have to make that choice, so I do both, and yes if you're trying to bulk, cardio could be detrimental and more rest could be beneficial. Believe it or not this is something I have done a lot of experimentation with. I've been doing various forms of exercise for the last 14 years, which is why I know it has such a profound impact on my inner game.
Your body can take much more of a beating than you probably realize. Overworking yourself is pretty tough to achieve. I would recommend 5 days on 2 days off for people with intense workouts. In one plateau I had during uni I was doing gymnastics mon-thu and weight lifting on saturdays. With 5 days of intense exercise I managed get my bench up to 127.5 kilos with a body weight of 65-70 kgs. I'm no where near that level now, but 7 days of rest would have never gotten me there. I've also gotten my three mile time below 18 minutes, my mile time below 5, and various other peaks in the gym.
Going through these various peaks of physical fitness over the years has given me a very unique perspective on how physical fitness affects my results with game, which is why I want people to understand it's importance. Most pickup advice is along the lines of: "get in the gym," or "always increase your weights," but never takes an indepth look at why getting peaks in the gym will set your inner game rocking, but it does.

[–]Marsupian 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow thanks for that reply, good points. If you are doing mostly cardio it makes a lot more sense, it's just that I'd hate to see guys overworking their bodies with good intentions and getting less out of it than they deserve.

I'm actually not that experienced with fitness and I mostly work on strength and explosiveness due to the sport I'm practicing (volleyball really doesn't require a lot of stamina at all and is mostly based on explosiveness, balance, strength and coordination/technique) I do feel like running would be a good move overall tho so I should probably start making some time for that.

btw. I do think that "fooling yourself into state" is a healthy thing to do and is something you can become better at and consistently pull off (or at least somewhat consistently). It shouldn't however be a reason to neglect your health or as an excuse to not be as healthy as you can be.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good reply ~

Yeah, a lot of sports are more about explosiveness than stamina, and building power / explosiveness is healthy and great for your natural state as well.

There is a difference in feeling when you do intense cardio workouts though, it usually becomes noticable after 2-3 months of intense training. I'll admit it's not as great for aesthetic improvements though, except for the weight loss (which you can get from strength training anyhow).

There is basically a different cocktail of hormones that are released from intense cardio training, which is where the change in feeling comes from.

You're right, fooling yourself isn't necessarily a bad thing, moreover the concept of self-awareness in general is extremely important. I don't think "faking it" is a good long term solution for maximizing results however. Women however can smell good health and they love it, no amount of faking will get you past their sixth sense.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]DesignMyself 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough, I realize the community will be disagreeing with me on this, but the fact remains it is incredibly important for achieving best results. If you are half assing the gym, your diet and health in general, you are shafting yourself and won't be reaching your maximum potential any time soon.

In my honest opinion, being in extremely good health and physically fit will fix most inner game issues, and there is a scientific explanation as to why this is so.

Think about this, how many pro athletes have you ever seen that appear to lack an extreme amount of confidence, or look as if they have sub-par inner game? I've never seen one myself, I suppose if I looked hard enough I could find one, but they surely are few and far between.

My theory with pickup revolves around maximizing your potential and improving yourself at the core. It's not about fooling yourself into believing you're a strong, masculine, powerful man, but about actually becoming one.