Am I really being unreasonable?

fatsackguy47 · 2023-05-10T06:03:25+00:00

nah ur right they are just being unreasonable. one guy even said in the comments he doesn’t like it cause he feels insulted lmao. like wtf does that have to do with anything.

Worldly_Piano9526 · 2023-05-10T07:19:26+00:00

I'm not sure if you were being unreasonable, but I also don't believe he was making a strawman. It doesn't seem to me like he was misrepresenting your argument, he was either ignoring your data entirely or trying to come up with a blue pilled explanation for your data and packaging it as dating advice while pretending to be GigaChad, probably both if we are being honest, but I admittedly only skimmed the conversation.

That being said; I think that he was simply guilty of a faulty premise, but again, not a strawman.

That premise being that "Women hate what they consider to be 'objectifying behavior' from ALL men"

"Objectification" really just translates to "an unattractive man showing sexual interest in me and lowering my self-esteem by thinking he has a shot".

Basically what I am saying is that "objectification" is only a problem if the woman isn't attracted to you in the first place, not the other way around. The "objectification" doesn't make you unattractive, you being unattractive makes your behavior "objectifying" but a lot of people will lie and tell you that it's the other way around. Women because they are toxic, need a socially acceptable excuse to attack you, and "How dare someone like you, approach someone like me" doesn't play as well with public opinion as the "objectification" card, and men because they have been duped by toxic women into buying their bullshit.

If you had a marine body, drove a Ferrari, and starred in action movies; you could "objectify" just about any woman that you wanted and she would still feel privileged for the opportunity to sleep with you, and probably even be turned on by it if we are being 100% honest.

LeMansManletRacer · 2023-05-10T09:44:21+00:00

Autists can be bluepilled too, especially on this website.

Guys a fucking clown though, especially with that "Wanting a girlfriend is objectification" Spineless joke of a man.

Last-Post2085 · 2023-05-10T09:12:52+00:00

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics. Even if you win you are still r-slurred.

Hyena_Utopia · 2023-05-10T11:15:56+00:00

After accepting the blackpill Ive realized that often times the normie is just as oblivious about social dynamics as the autist. I believe they know deep down what the body language and expressions of others mean, but willingly surpress or unknowingly repress it.

An autist that follows bluepill doctrine though... fuck man. Wish I had your patience, thats all im going to say. Engaging with someone that is effectively doubly autistic, couldn't be me.

infinitofluxo · 2023-05-10T11:51:05+00:00

I don't need evidence to recognize that autistic men have deep troubles finding relationships.

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-05-10T18:38:07+00:00

No that guy kind of missed the point of your post. You just wanted to explain the statistical data of why dating is harder for men on the spectrum, and he immediately tried to make a point of why its actually autistic mens fault. Which doesn't actually respond to your OP.

In reality it is very much harder for men on the spectrum because they're on the spectrum. The things some of yall do wrong isn't really the way to address the topic. It feels a little victim blamey tbh so I can see why it would be upsetting. Thinking objectively isn't the same as objectifying other people.

ezbyte · 2023-05-10T23:08:04+00:00

You weren’t being unreasonable. I just wish others were more honest. Most women aren’t going to give an autistic man a chance because they don’t want to run the high risk of having to raise autistic children. But I don’t think men really think about things like that when dating. That plus women are big on “mood”. Autistic men can’t read social cues as well and can fuck up a vibe pretty easy.

Title	Am I really being unreasonable?
Author	Diligent_Divide_4978
Upvotes	11
Comments	11
Date	May 10, 2023 5:47 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AllPillDebate
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