Older bloke here with adult son having had a Vasectomy two decades ago. Aside from cohabitation/marriage children are a huge liability. If we agree that the above two situations are high risk doesnt it follow that vasectomy is a pillar of MGTOW? I'm interested because this particular topic seems generally absent from this board. I'm also interested in the view points of younger and older males regarding this issue. I would also be interested in peoples experience of fatherhood through the lens of MGTOW.