Question ? I'm confused

shandsup · 2019-10-06T08:05:27+00:00

Lol investing in women? Talk about a depreciating asset

MarcusAurileus70 · 2019-10-06T09:42:25+00:00

Conditioning by society.

atheos42 · 2019-10-06T08:18:13+00:00

I guess it was easy for me to figure it out. When I was younger, I have had co-workers, family, and family friends go though bad divorces. I guess it wasn't hard for me to determine, if I don't want to get divorced, then don't get married. If you don't want B then don't do A, problem solved. I guess when I was young, I also decided I don't want kids, so that was a double win for me. I didn't want to experience a divorce and I don't want kids, so a marriage offered no benefits.

I did have girlfriends and other relationships, but eventually I had to walk away, and I had no problems doing that. Now I am monk mode, and trying to save for retirement.

AdrenalineJunkySloth · 2019-10-06T08:30:01+00:00

Because the average guy is blue pill. Heck, 80% of society is blue pill. The rest know something is wrong but they don't quite know exactly what. Very few people are red pill, less are MGTOW.

I know here it's clear as day but to the average person who only go to school, work, and date like everyone else they have no clue. It does take some balls and guts to ask honest questions and challenge the status quo, however. I also believe many people have a hard time accepting the truth until it slaps the living daylight out of them before they believe.

jstrockmeyer · 2019-10-06T08:58:36+00:00

It took me some pretty heavy psychedelic trips to get fully red pilled, it’s really about looking your soul straight in its eyes which is something the majority of men cannot do, it’s not that they can and don’t want to it’s literally that the majority of men are so brainwashed they don’t even realize there’s a whole different reality then what they’re presented with

Copypastable · 2019-10-06T08:36:31+00:00

Typical young dudes cannot control their hormonal urges and end up getting pussy whipped, while social conditioning brainwashes them for this to be the norm. They pair bond thinking the typical female can easily do the same. This turns off the typical female and opens the red pill path.

ncarolina66 · 2019-10-06T10:36:40+00:00

Because the average guy doesn't know or care about divorce rape in his youth. He might have heard about an uncle, older brother or family friend getting screwed but that's one guy right? It won't happen to me because "she loves me!"...

And as another member said, It's been ingrained into your head since a young age to respect and put girls on a pedestal....then get married, have kids, etc.......

That mental conditioning (from family and friends) is hard to over come especially when you don't have much to learn from...although thanks to forums and website like this guys finally have the knowledge base to get this wisdom IF THEY CHOOSE TO FIND IT and actually USE that knowledge and THAT's the main issue today...

Getting guys to believe that this one sided family court system, feminist environment and AWALT nature of women is something they have to learn about BEFORE they get into a relationshit now and NOT after they get fucked. (yes, in more ways than one)....

JDTokyo · 2019-10-06T12:44:58+00:00

Desire for pussy and strong social conditioning. And not learning the truth about marriage and relationships (ie asymmetry of risks and benefits) before it’s too late.

_spaceracer_ · 2019-10-06T15:07:22+00:00

Can an average guy answer?

We don’t think too hard about it because we don’t experience what you do. We don’t tolerate unhealthy relationship dynamics for long and we deal with our emotional issues, meaning we attract women who have dealt with their emotional issues. We date other mature adults and hold them accountable.

I can’t comment on the marriage bit, other than to say we don’t usually marry someone who hasn’t won our trust. We make the assumption that a shitty woman is just a shitty person, and that’s where it ends. We don’t even think to generalize that to women at large.

It turns out that given a large enough population, there are plenty of available, morally upright woman around. This might be why unless we’re fascinated by movements like yours, we don’t even consider your position. It isn’t even close to a lived reality for us, because we live in a world where women are as trustworthy (or not) as we are and men have to work just as hard to prove themselves worthy of our trust (or not) as women do.

To simplify, most of us never think of women as separate, or put them on a pedestal. As a result, our love lives are pretty boringly standard, and other than a few bad apples, our relationships are mostly decent to good. When I tell my male friends about movements like MGTOW, they simply don’t understand.

Joroda · 2019-10-06T15:08:41+00:00

Consensus is extraordinarily powerful. It's like that because it's so much easier to do what everyone else is doing rather than reinventing the wheel. The problem is that every institution has been cartoonishly subverted and there's no authority you can trust. Therefore each man must do exactly that - reinvent the wheel. He must go through his own grueling process of discovery lest he be pulled under like all the rest.

_n1codemus · 2019-10-06T16:04:52+00:00

Investing in women in 2019 is like finding dot-com bubble appealing once again in 2019.

Every once in a while it seems that market has stabilised, you got a nice feeling to it, think times are different now cause you 'see' the way it could work (bluepill), but for some reason it just does not work (redpill).

FaustoLG · 2019-10-06T17:22:28+00:00

The education we received is what makes us think that way...

The society will force this way of thinking because they need men controlled and docile...

D0p3y3 · 2019-10-06T18:55:02+00:00

I may have a differing perspective based on my cultural background. My parents, uncles, aunts, and friends that have gotten married have stayed married. There has been 1 divorce in the church. I don't pursue women, but if I happen to meet one that aligns in my beliefs I see no reason not to marry. This sub has definitely helped me see through the BS and tactics women use.

Personally I believe there is more to life than what I can accomplish on my own. Even now with all my hobbies I don't feel fulfilled. Don't get me wrong they bring me happiness, but not a sense of fulfillment. I want to have a family and kids.

Shaikan_ · 2019-10-07T01:26:07+00:00

Few things. One, it's ingrained deep in our brains to care for and seek women. They have the hypergamy instinct, we got the dominance instinct, thus we step over each other to win their favor and sex. Second, men are conditioned to desire and validate their existence through women. If you don't have a GF, you're an incel; so, if you don't want to be an incel, go make something of yourself, and maybe some hoe will give you sloppy 5 seconds, so you can pay child support for Tyrone's kid. And last but not least, there's an information vacuum; most boys and men are never taught these things, so they follow their instincts or heart and learn the hard way (or don't and live in quiet desperation).

Gemjab · 2019-10-07T06:30:52+00:00

Honestly it's the effect bitches have on the weak men. I still see men simping to be in the good favor of woman. And I've seen men literally do worst and you can't say shit because you'll be the one who is ostracized (only if you give a fuck I honestly don't) and some men are stubborn as all hell so let them drown and you just do you and step over their lifeless corpses.

Title	Question ? I'm confused
Author	Tex2572
Upvotes	39
Comments	27
Date	October 6, 2019 8:04 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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