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Once Again, Nebraska Supreme Court Endorses Paternity Fraud

roharareddit

February 14, 2016

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Title	Once Again, Nebraska Supreme Court Endorses Paternity Fraud
Author	roharareddit
Upvotes	47
Comments	18
Date	February 14, 2016 9:32 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]TheDude41 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

[–]chavelah 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

[–]TheDude41 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]chavelah 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, it's one thing to not teach sex ed at schools and leave it for parents, peers, news and the internet to educate people - not like kids can't figure out where to get an abortion of birth control pills these days (it's in the news every other day). It being the case that much of this is already widely known and discussed by young adults, what is taught unfortunately serves no useful purpose other than indoctrination, frankly.

In contrast, it takes a different level of douchebaggery for a group of teachers to proclaim that they teach something called "comprehensive sex education" in schools, and then intentionally leave out or pooh-pooh 90% of what boys and men want to know. Meanwhile, heavily censor and chastise the press for giving coverage on most all issues of importance to men (paternity testing, paternity fraud, child custody, domestic violence committed by females, false allegations of rape, frequent exonerations of the falsely imprisoned), leaving men & boys intentionally lied to & ignorant.

At that point, it would be better to teach kids nothing at all -- simply say out loud it's too controversial for the public school environment -- and instead leave young people to pursue information on their own based on what is important to them.

It's much the same as the so-called "well rounded" public school education that leaves kids intentionally ignorant of 90% of what makes the world go round, yet feeds the lie that this type of education leaves them knowing a lot... when nothing could be further from the truth.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, we homeschool for a reason.

But the teens and young adults I work with, who have come up through the public school system, honest to God do NOT know how to access contraception and abortion services. They've got cell phones. They've got Internet access at school always, and at home usually. The sex ed curriculum in my state is "abstinence-oriented," which I'm sure doesn't help... but I used the goddammed Yellow Pages to find the clinic when I wanted to go on birth control, you'd think somebody with access to Google figure out where to go. I really do think that evangelical culture is to blame for this. Lying and sneaking are so deeply entrenched in everyday life, of course teens think way to deal with sex is to practice maximum denial.

... needless to say, the young fathers don't know anything about their legal rights and responsibilities. They usually DO know to ask for a paternity test, so that information has percolated down to street level, and the judge will order one anyhow if the parents aren't married - but when the test comes back positive (and I've never worked a case where it didn't), then the guys get discover their 18 year bill and the fact that they'll only see their child on sufferance unless they open up a new court case to establish custodial rights. It's a shit show.

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

But the teens and young adults I work with, who have come up through the public school system, honest to God do NOT know how to access contraception and abortion services.

Can't find out how to access, or haven't done so or do not want to? Three different things.

https://www.google.com/#q=abortion+services

https://www.google.com/#q=condoms

https://www.google.com/#q=contraception

The sex ed curriculum in my state is "abstinence-oriented,"

Yes, but that is truth in advertising. If you're not abstinent, get your information elsewhere. Lowest common denominator education. If you wish to find out more, find out elsewhere. "Comprehensive sex education" as it is on the other hand, is just a big lie.

and the judge will order one anyhow if the parents aren't married

Since when and where? In what state? I doubt it. What does marriage have to do with paternity testing? Except nothing.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]roharareddit[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]roharareddit[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If the biological father could reasonably claim that the possibility of paternity was concealed from him, I'd agree with you.

He had no legal rights to the kid and the child did not live with him. What was he going to do? Break in to their house and obtain a DNA sample while everyone was sleeping?

But by his own admission, he repeatedly had sex with the woman without using condoms in the appropriate time frame, and was aware of her pregnancy at the time it occured.

Did this woman not have sex?

He had all the information a reasonable person requires to conclude that they might have sired a child.

He did suspect that he may be the father and asked the mother who lied to him about it.

So lets get this all straight:

They both had unprotected sex.

She lied to him and almost definitely her husband about the paternity of the child.

Now the truth has been outed years after the fact and this guy still doesn't have any rights over his biological child because of a crooked system that the mother played like a flute.

You seem to think that this guy had an adiquate amount of control over what was going on when he clearly didn't. Not sure why you feel that way unless you are infected with the idea, as so many people are, that this guy was just a flop who had fun with his dirty little penis and therefor should not have any rights or say in the matter.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link