How to anger a feminist: Criticize Harvey Weinstein the wrong way

Mens-Advocate · 2017-10-16T15:40:49+00:00

I have a few questions.

This article makes clear a "hot dude" can proposition women crudely and receive a positive response:
https://thoughtcatalog.com/clint-conway/2017/03/this-guy-made-a-fake-tinder-profile-to-prove-that-girls-never-think-hot-dudes-are-creepy/

Other men, however, are creepy for doing the same thing.

Some of Weinstein's antics are outrageous because perceived as coercive. But how much of the outrage is fed by the idea that it is creepy for an old, fat, ugly male to proposition a female?

But a female propositioning a male is usually called empowered, confident of her sexuality, etc. So isn't some of the outrage against a male sexist?

And isn't rejecting him for being old ageist?

And isn't rejecting him for being ugly lookist?

And isn't criticising him for excessive libido and excessive propositioning, a form of slut-shaming?

How come there are one set of rules for women and another for men?

Mode1961 · 2017-10-16T16:34:00+00:00

Few men will have been asked to massage a fat, hairy, Hollywood Leftie

I read this statement several times because it just seemed wrong somehow and it took a while to figure out WHY.

Because it should read

Very Very Very few people will have been asked to massage a fat, hairy, Hollywood Leftie.

Sure one is too many, but even if he is the worst man on earth. The number of people he assaulted is extremely small. I see so many women saying "We" and "I" as though they were assaulted by this guy.

lostapwbm · 2017-10-16T15:23:52+00:00

The way most people learn empathy is by placing themselves, mentally, in someone else's shoes. As Adam Smith wrote in his "Theory of Moral Sentiments," we extrapolate outwards: Our imaginative sympathy starts with someone we know and expands into a general sympathy with strangers.

The doublethink of feminism is a demand that men sympathize with women without any reciprocal sympathy because "MALE PRIVILEGE!"

Few men will have been asked to massage a fat, hairy, Hollywood Leftie.

That doesn't mean that they're indifferent to women they haven't met. On the contrary, it's how they step out of their own perspective. In much the same way, lots of women will discuss, say, education policy by saying "As a mom, I want X."

Oh, they think it does give them moral authority. Unearned, undeserved moral authority to shut up anyone who disagrees with them.

The curse of our age is that it elevates the moralistic (holding the right opinions) over the moral (doing the right thing).

But to feminists, complaining loudly is doing the right thing. And that's the problem.

Yet, there has been an equivalent hypocrisy on the Right. If you now rail against Weinstein, but said nothing about some of the sexual shenanigans at Fox, you might want to ask yourself what the difference is.

It's the same thing and it's not an outrage. Men with power invited women to whore themselves out for money and fame, and wouldn't you know it? WOMEN ACTUALLY SHOWED UP TO WHORE THEMSELVES OUT FOR MONEY AND FAME!

Newbosterone · 2017-10-17T01:26:21+00:00

I'll drop "As a father" from my comments as soon as women drop "As a Mother" from theirs.

Title	How to anger a feminist: Criticize Harvey Weinstein the wrong way
Author	lostapwbm
Upvotes	11
Comments	11
Date	October 16, 2017 3:15 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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