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What South Dakota doesn’t get about transgender children

ScienceNewsie

February 8, 2020
5 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/opinion/transgender-children-medical-bills.html
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Title What South Dakota doesn’t get about transgender children
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ScienceNewsie

Upvotes 5
Comments 39
Date February 8, 2020 6:13 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/f0nnzp/what_south_dakota_doesnt_get_about_transgender/
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[–]iainmf[M] [score hidden] 6 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

Please explain how this relates to men's rights.

[–]The-beat-man 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

the mods when are you going to delete this thread? it has nothing to do with mens rights

[–]Stock_Elevator 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cry harder transphobe.

[–]The-beat-man 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

crying transphobia will not change my mind

[–]The-beat-man 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

trans children are made that way by adults. it is adults who are brainwashing and abusing these children.

many of these children are on the autism spectrum

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6401593/Whistleblower-teacher-makes-shocking-claim-autistic.html

New research indicates that transgender and non-binary individuals are significantly more likely to have autism or display autistic traits than the wider population - a finding that has important implications for gender confirmation treatments.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-07/aru-sft071619.php

[–]Stock_Elevator 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Bro you need to take some meds because you are writing some serious crazy.

[–]The-beat-man 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

look at his wikipedia page

John William Money (8 July 1921 – 7 July 2006) was a New Zealand American psychologist, sexologist and author specializing in research into sexual identity and biology of gender. He was one of the first researchers to publish theories on the influence of societal constructs of "gender" on individual formation of gender identity.

Pedophilia opinions

John Money was critical in debates on chronophilias, especially pedophilia.[31] He stated that both sexual researchers and the public do not make distinctions between affectional pedophilia and sadistic pedophilia. Money asserted that affectional pedophilia was about love and not sex.

If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual ... then I would not call it pathological in any way.[32][33] 

Money held the view that affectional pedophilia is caused by a surplus of parental love that became erotic, and is not a behavioral disorder. Rather, he took the position that heterosexuality is another example of a societal and therefore superficial, ideological concept.[32][33]

the gender identity movement is founded by pedophiles denials won't change facts

[–]Stock_Elevator 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're really not making yourself look any more sane, bud.

[–]The-beat-man 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

say the one who refuse to look at anything he does not like

[–]aussietoads 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

As usual, what one lot of 'experts' have to say doesn't reflect the attitude of all experts.

https://www.right-mind.us/american-college-of-pediatrics-reaches-decision-transgenderism-of-children-is-child-abuse-2/

[–]tgjer 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

The "American College of Pediatrics" is not a medical organization. They are a tiny religiously based anti-gay and anti-trans hate group.

[–]ScienceNewsie[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/201705/the-american-college-pediatricians-is-anti-lgbt-group

[–]tgjer 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, they're complete frauds with a deliberately dishonest name.

[–]aussietoads 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

So you say. I say one lot of experts disagrees with another. Nothing unusual or hateful about that. Here's another recognized medical association questioning the narrative and raising concerns.

https://twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1225183689824403456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ATransgendertrd%7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.transgendertrend.com%2Fa-scientist-reviews-transgender-suicide-stats%2F

Edited.

[–]tgjer 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

So says Snopes.

The "American College of Pediatrics" has between 50 and 200 members, was founded for the purpose of fraudulently claiming gay marriage harms children, and when they lost that battle they moved on to attacking trans people.

Their claims have no medical basis whatsoever, and they willfully and dishonestly misrepresent the current science of sex and gender.

[–]aussietoads -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Their claims have no medical basis whatsoever,

Rebuke any one of the 8 points given in that article. In my layman opinion, to treat a psychological problem with drastic physical solutions certainly doesn't sound like a solution based in medicine, or based on the benefit of the patient either.

[–]tgjer -5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The American Academy of Pediatrics is the primary professional organization of pediatric medicine in the US, and they say that the claims made by the "American College of Pediatrics" have no medical basis whatsoever.

And the Snopes entry is specifically about the article, and why it is bullshit.

Meanwhile, being trans is not a "psychological problem" in and of itself, and we have decades of overwhelming evidence that transition is incredibly effective medical treatment for dypshoria. It massively improves the mental health, social functionality, and quality of life of patients who need it, while reducing risk of suicide attempts from about 40% prior to transition down to the national average afterwards.

When able to transition, with access to appropriate transition-related medical care, and when spared abuse and discrimination, trans people are as psychologically healthy as the general public.

[–]ShutupPussy -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You're arguing with an idiot. Stop.

[–]aussietoads 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you rebuke any of the 8 points made in that article.?

[–]tgjer 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right, I just don't want any lurkers who might not know much about the subject to mistake the "American College of Pediatricians" for an actual medical authority.

[–]aussietoads 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ad hominem in lieu of argument doesn't make him/her/(insert gender here) right.

[–]aussietoads -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you think might be the reason experts refer to transgender and not transexual?

[–]Mashiki -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So says Snopes.

Well there's your problem right there.

[–]Ketsuni -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like how they call the DSM-5 the "DSM-V"... the change from Roman numerals to standard numbers wasn't an arbitrary choice and people who work in psychology wouldn't mistakenly name it.

I also like how they don't credit sources.

[–]aussietoads -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

These two well known people seem to agree with the general premise of the article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7pMIZQRqs

[–]angrytransgal 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I’ve been trying to educate people about trans youths, but the majority won’t listen because they’re willfully ignorant arses. They’re out here just living their best lives. Same people like to tell me I don’t know what I’m doing to my body as an adult of sound mind that knows very well what I’m doing.

[–]The-beat-man 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

there is no such thing as "trans rights"

[–]angrytransgal -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Frick off

[–]The-beat-man 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

why are you following an ideology invented by a pedophile?

John William Money (8 July 1921 – 7 July 2006) was a New Zealand American psychologist, sexologist and author specializing in research into sexual identity and biology of gender. He was one of the first researchers to publish theories on the influence of societal constructs of "gender" on individual formation of gender identity. Money introduced the terms gender identity, gender role and sexual orientation and popularised the term paraphilia.[1][2]

Pedophilia opinions

John Money was critical in debates on chronophilias, especially pedophilia.[31] He stated that both sexual researchers and the public do not make distinctions between affectional pedophilia and sadistic pedophilia. Money asserted that affectional pedophilia was about love and not sex.

If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual ... then I would not call it pathological in any way.[32][33] 

Unethical Psychological Studies: The Case of David Reimer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfeGf4Ei7F0

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/f0nnzp/what_south_dakota_doesnt_get_about_transgender/

[–]Stock_Elevator 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So one trans advocate being a pervert is somehow proof that the entire concept is false because... reasons? My god, thats a huge leap in logic.

[–]The-beat-man 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it not just one many others are also pedophile perverts

[–]Stock_Elevator 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

> Press F to doubt

F

[–]angrytransgal -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Why are you being ontuse and antagonistic against a rando on the web? I want nothing more than to be a cute girl. I’m rather successful at it I might add.

[–]The-beat-man 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

you have the right to live as the opposite sex. but you have no right to force others to recognize that

[–]angrytransgal 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I also have the right to tell you to fuck off. So I think I’ll do just that. Fuck off

[–]The-beat-man 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

no you cam here uninvited to a place which is about MEN'S ISSUES. go and find a reddit board that is about transgender issues

[–]angrytransgal 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I was circumcised and want to speak out against it and that talk is unwelcome most places. I’m welcome to do just that. I’ve done nothing wrong. I merely said that I try to teach people trans kids don’t get anything permanent

[–]The-beat-man 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

trans kids are given puberty blocker and undergo irreversible changes. kids are not allowed to have sex and do adult stuff so why do you think they can "change their gender"?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...is that they don't exist?

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