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The tale of Delphine LaLaurie

rbrockway

August 21, 2022
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Title The tale of Delphine LaLaurie
Author

rbrockway

Upvotes 10
Comments 14
Date August 21, 2022 3:13 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/wu1yec/the_tale_of_delphine_lalaurie/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/the-tale-of-delphine-lalaurie.1128585
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Comments

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Mothers are do the majority of child abuse. Women are just as human as men and can be cruel to those they have power over. The fact that women perform more child abuse than men I learned when going through my custody fight and it was what opened my eyes to feminist lies that women are more moral, emotional and kind than men.

[–]rich_before_30 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is absolutely true from the anecdotes and general discussions I read. But it's usually mentioned in a off hand way.

Have you read anything that directly talk about abuse from mothers?

[–]rbrockway[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men's Rights sites, such as my site A Voice for Men will certainly talk directly about these issues. Everyone else is too scared.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And this study shows boys are more abused than girls. But of course girls are more affected, have more depression etc. There couldn't be any confounding variables/s. Like women suffer more in general from depression.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448305/

[–]mechajutaro 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Quote the article: "There are many elements in this story that contradict the feminist historical narrative."

This error was called back as far back at least the early 10s, when the movie 12 Years A Slave was released; Sarah Paulson's character was depicted as being no less troubled and malevolent than her slave breaker of a husband. As to whether or not LaLaurie was any worse than her fellow slaveholders, or whether or not queens in the Middle Ages were more warlike than their male counterparts.... We've been segueing into intellectual debates like this since about '15, much in the same way The Woke Left inevitably pivots damn near every conversation into the subject of colonialism and all the lousy things pasty colored people did to black and bronze colored people a few centuries ago

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Fascinating as all of this history is, here in '22(The MRM and The Woke Left have both failed to deliver concrete, tangible gains for those whom they claim to speak on behalf of)one has to wonder just how helpful our prioritizing this over asking "What do we do to help those who are in need today?" has been

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

one has to wonder just how helpful our prioritizing this over asking "What do we do to help those who are in need today?" has been

It is easy to say that when the ongoing effects of it are not your problem. ADOS people still have to deal with the effects of western imperialism and supremacy to this day.

[–]mechajutaro 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It is easy to say that when the ongoing effects of it are not your problem. ADOS people still have to deal with the effects of western imperialism and supremacy to this day.

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Indeed they do. And if one goes and visits people living in literal dirt poverty in Subsaharan Africa or Central America, they'll say "Help me by getting me clean drinking water and decent housing today, rather than fretting over things Cecil Rhodes and Pizzaro did centuries ago." Similar is true of men in modern America

Writing lengthy articles about how awful female slave holders were in pre-Civil War America, and arguing that female queens were more warlike than their contemporaries during The Dark Ages has at best a tennis connection to relieving the day to day burdens suffered disproportionately by men here in The 21st Century. This sort of activity has not much to with things like like launching a tooth and nail political fight to make shared parenting legislation the law of the land, ending a Drug War which overwhelmingly locks up men, getting all but the most seriously disabled off the dole and into legit work, and increasing access to vocational training throughout the nation*

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*As Peter Cove and others have documented: Even pre-COVID, less than half of all Americans were employed full time, and fewer men were in the work force than was the case at the end of The Great Depression. Contrary to popular myths, this isn't attributable to the factories closing, but to anti-poverty policies which actually serve to keep people poor. Still several million more Americans are under employed and among the working poor, thanks to a dearth of the skills necessary for them to achieve upward mobility. Skills that grater access to vocational training would provide

It just so happens that all of this has a particularly devastating effect on the men who are caught up in it. It's this portion of the male population who is THE MOST vulnerable to things like mental illness, addiction, suicide, poor health, premature death, fathering kids out of wedlock, and contact with the criminal justice system. Overwhelmingly though, when one tries to get most card-carrying MRAs enthusiastic about working on these more visceral troubles, the knee-jerk reaction one gets is "Well, that's important, but.... Feminism/Gynocentrism/Red Pill/Blue Pill/Cultural Marxism". This raises serious questions as to whether or not The MRM are advocates for men, or the continuance of the very problems they claim to care about

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

and visits people living in literal dirt poverty in Subsaharan Africa or Central America

You quickly jumped to false narratives here, relying on cherrypicked images designed to showcase how pathetic Africans are so they get white dollars.

Writing lengthy articles about how awful female slave holders were in pre-Civil War America, and arguing that female queens were more warlike than their contemporaries during The Dark Ages

All of which is countering popularly pushed narratives about the inherent 'goodness' of women, especially Caucasian women who have tried to hide their culpability to the suffering of ADOS people in the last 400 years. Recognizing who your foe is, and is not, and what they are responsible for despite historical revisions is important. You should read Dr. Curry's book 'Man Not' to see how the dehumanization and disenfranchisement of men works from historical up to modern times.

[–]mechajutaro 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'll Google Curry's book. I'm not denying that this stuff is fascinating history, just as it's fascinating to read about The Conquistadors plundering The New World, or the Turks conquering and enslaving Eastern Europe. We moderns prioritize mulling over such things though, while show very little passion for helping those who are in need today. I'm not convinced that this has been beneficial

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It is just as important to know historical truths, rather than revisions or intentionally buried knowledge, like how 40% of slave owners in the Antebellum American South were women, or how many freewomen owned slaves themselves, including spouses, parents and children.

[–]mechajutaro 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

40% of slave owners in the Antebellum American South were women

Even the dyed in the wool Woke-sters over at Vox have acknowledge the role of women as slaveholders in pre-Civil War America https://www.vox.com/2019/8/19/20807633/slavery-white-women-stephanie-jones-rogers-1619 Well, white women at least. We can have an entire separate discussion on free black women who also owned slaves

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It is just as important to know historical truths, rather than revisions or intentionally buried knowledge,

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We're a nation that struggles mightily just to teach people how to read well. This assertion that we have get the majority of Americans to think about these historical matters before we make progress in the present just gives logic a bad name. It's also inconsistent with the way disadvantaged people throughout US history have actually progressed.

Ex. Even to this day, very few people know the names of the many black inventors who've existed throughout US history. Not many folks are aware that blacks were being admitted to the bar and being elected to high office, a mere 10 years after slavery had been abolished, all things which demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that the descendants of enslaved Africans are just as human as whites are. It wasn't necessary for most of America to gain such a comprehensive grasp of history, in order for The Civil Rights Victories of the 20th Century to come to fruition

[–]reverbiscrap 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't necessary for most of America to gain such a comprehensive grasp of history, in order for The Civil Rights Victories of the 20th Century to come to fruition

True, but when such knowledge is buried (the article you linked came about in 2019, more than 150 years after emancipation) it lends context. There is a reason why books like Daughters of the Trade receive acclaim: such information is generally unknown. It wasn't until recently I learned about how slave breeding worked in practice and why, or that 2/3rds of Africans trafficked were men, or why so many African Americans have European bloodlines.

I am 40, and this was never taught to me growing up. It took hearing the latest crop of black academicians speaking about it in the last 10 years to learn, and it bears reasoning why that is the case. They have gone in to recent history, like how the Civil Rights Movement dissolved in the 70s, or the Kerner Commission being the impetus for Affirmative Action and how that twisted up.

[–]Upper-Knee-9353 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Im female & I like your article. I’ve learned through extensive research, how horrific female leaders were & many still are around the world. We don’t hear about them because they’re admired as feminists; always the “first” to “change”…well…nothing. Done listening to them complain about male leaders then do worse when they’re in office.

[–]rbrockway[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. This is a sample from my upcoming book. Been working on it for several years but can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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