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Boys in School

nyrp
May 1, 2014
16 upvotes
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Title Boys in School
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nyrp
Upvotes 16
Comments 6
Date May 1, 2014 2:04 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/24gf4g/boys_in_school/
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[–]skinisblackmetallic2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"pussy-whipped male Sonderkommandos"....

:D

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Said below in another post -

Anything that involves telling children (especially boys) to sit down, hold still and shut up is doomed to failure.

Why else do you think that public education in the USA is cratering?

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a teacher, this gets me. The article makes a lot of valid points regarding socialization, but when the argument comes down to the ills of sitting down, shutting up, and learning, in essence traditional education, it gets ridiculous. How else do we give each student, regardless of sex, the opportunity to become a doctor, or lawyer? We all preach STEM, but guess what? The fundamentals of STEM take a lot of sitting still and traditional learning. Yes, lower level education is learning procedure over content, but if students don't learn how to learn at an early age, what can you build off of?

[–]violent_frame2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For me it's the fact that when they do act out they are harshly marginalized. There is not empathy for the troubles of boys in that environment, I really feel there needs a bit more paternalism about boys behavior instead of saying it's a pathology.

[–]dropit_reborn0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem with pathologization is that it prolongs the alienation of the student.

If a boy fucks around in class and gets a series of increasingly frantic "Now Johnny..."'s, is eventually sent to the principal, eventually suspended...then he is a)not in class b)never sent a clear message that this behavior is unacceptable. His life is hardly falling apart because he doesn't know the chief export of Zaire. Furthermore, since the problem is not "solved" in the mind of the teacher, it leaves the student-teacher relationship permanently strained.

Compare to, after a threshold, "Up against the wall, five swats of my belt" or whatever. While this is certainly more cruel in the short term, it a)keeps the student in class b)makes the child much more likely to submit, allowing the student-teacher relationship to once again move forward.

Obviously problems with it. Obviously problems with the current system. It is a mistake to automatically assume that what we have is better than what we had.

[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“The problem doesn’t simply involve men trying to overcome the demise of a local factory or teenage boys getting into trouble. It involves children so young that most haven’t even learned the word “gender.” Yet their gender is already starting to cast a long shadow over their lives.”

Just so. But it is not their own gender casting the shadow.

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