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[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla[M] [score hidden] 8 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link
best not to pretend to lawyer
[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I say just don't get married.
[–]Blackhawk247923 points24 points25 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another vote for not getting married.
[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Separate travel (=separate dick) and zero wife's responsibility for anything.
This is like not getting married at all. This is even less serious than your average LTR.
It's actually a big 'fuck you', followed by a slap and spit on your face for suggesting a prenup.
Yeah, don't get married.
[–]Deluxeish[S] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much what I was expecting to hear from you guys. It’s ridiculous what’s out there. Marriage is pointless
[–]chauncy_popperstein10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you pay all the bills/maintenance and she keeps her money? She gets to run off to get railed by whatever dick is willing?
LOL nope. Don't get married
[–]M_Justice5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Good luck with this. I'm sure you know that non-financial terms are not binding or enforceable in a prenup (e.g those related to children, giving birth, etc.). As for the financial terms, you need to make disclosures of all property, bank accounts, etc.; both parties should do this, and attach it as exhibits to prenup; give her several weeks to consult an attorney, and make sure you have an attorney review everything and that is enforceable in your jurisdiction. I'm 40 and after my first marriage, which was a disaster and cost me tons of $$$, I am now in stable partnership with an awesome woman. We chose not to marry to avoid the legal formalities and things are great. I still treat her as my wife and she treats me as her husband.
[–]Deluxeish[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I prefer your approach with none of it being binding by not needing it.
[–]electricspresident0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't u end up common law married with that kind of partnership for a long time?
[–]M_Justice0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends on the state. Not in mine. Trying to enforce common law marriages is exceedingly rare.
[–]SmamelessMe6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The whole purpose of marriage is procreation. Getting married means you are in a stable relationship and are ready to have children.
With the surrogate she is basically saying I am marrying you to get your benefits (house, maintenance), but you are still out on your own to have a child with someone else.
This has to be the mother of all red flags. Even if it is something here lawyers convinced her of putting, knowing it will get thrown out later during negotiation, I would leave her just for even attempting to use this.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is fucked OP. The idea of marriage is that the relationship is already stable. You don't just get married and see how it's going three years down the line lmao
[–]g23john1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
On top of that, this woman seems very apathetic toward the whole thing as she writes her contract to avoid all duties of being a wife and a mom.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or just don't go through the legal process, keep the government out of your relationship, and have a relationship. Marriage is a defunct ritual with antiquated applications. You can do everything you want to do without getting married.
[–]kolokowatorr2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok so correct me if I'm wrong. You asked for a prenup consisting of only number 1 and than in response she added 11 more as her counter proposition.
This is just pure bonkers. I wouldn't advice to marry anyway, and with thinks as you describe it would be even more stupid thing to do. Best luck.
[–]1Entropy-71 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not sure that a lot of those terms could be enforceable, particularly about the kids and defining "stable".
[–]BillSander1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Psycho killer... run, run away!"
[–]RoseCatK0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Laurel Manor, you're in Michigan lol.
[–]3trplurker0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop everything your doing right now, first and foremost go speak with an attorney about prenups and have them draw up the document. Then have future-wife hire her own attorney to review the agreement and provide feedback. There will be some discussions and you will know very quickly if she's looking for an exit strategy, in that case you can just bail on the whole thing.
This is a business contract and is treated as such. It must follow the rules of business contracts in order to be enforceable, and if it does then your ass is covered.
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