We all say that women don't like manliness but like manly traits like assertiveness and attractiveness which does get confusing for the average young man and even more so as I get older because I think our definitions are very different

Whenever I hear a girl say that they want someone assertive the first thought comes to my head is a stereotypical jock. Think Thor or Captain America. Sometimes I think what girls really mean is a winner.

Assertiveness is just that a trait and all guys from The Jock to the Preppy to the Nerdy and The Goth use this trait in some fashion or another.

If a nerdy guy is standing up to a bully he is being assertive.

The question if his standing up will let him win is completely different.

I've been the kid who has stood up for himself and has been assertive and sometimes it ended with me getting fought back or made fun of even worse.

A nerdy guy is being confident and is assertive but just because he is doing all of this does not make him attractive to other women especially if another guy is deemed as Superior to him.